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25 Nov 2005 03:40:57 AM |
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* Why Does The Pope Keep Lying ? |
Why Does The Pope Keep Lying ?
Once again this pope, like the last pope, lies that there is a
sin of homosexuality. If you admit you are gay, you cannot be
a priest. Despite the fact that it is a physical impossibility
that there is a sin of homosexuality, and the pope knows it.
Because they had no words for, nor a concept of homosexuality at
the time the bible was written. The mythical sin of homosexuality
was invented with in the last 100 years, and has no more history
than does Ford Automobiles. The roots of a sin of homosexuality
no more stretches back in time than does Einstein's General
Theory of Relativity. The concept of homosexuality never existed
before 1868, therefore that sin could not possibly exist before
that time. God did not come down to the mountain top in the 1900's
and tell anyone homosexuals or a homosexual acts are a sin. The
pope has found this sin in his corrupt heart, not the bible.
In every instance where the pope finds a mythical sin of
homosexuality, is in reality a sin of ideology, sexual religious
rituals to fertility gods as Baal-Molech and Venus. The context
is Lev 18:21-24, Lev 20:2-5,13, 1 Cor 6:9-20, Rom 1:23-29 all
are talking about the religious rituals of having sex in an
idolatrous act. That is why a "wife" can be put away for
fornication, as Jesus said in Mat 5:32. Fornication is the
sexual act of worshiping a fertility god, not sex out of
wedlock, as the liars have made up. To tell gay men they cannot
be priests comes from the bigoted heart of the pope and his
sycophant cronies, not the bible. They are revisionists of history
to justify their bigotry, not to enlighten spiritual truth.
Just like the pope's old pal Hitler, he is using the bible to
justify his bigotry.
"The modern terms homosexuality and heterosexuality do not apply
to an era that had not yet articulated these distinctions"
- Lawrence and Garner v. Texas USSC (2003)
For a full history of the subject see:
legal history
http://hnn.us/articles/1539.html
medical history
http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/social14.htm
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25 Nov 2005 07:32:43 AM |
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"newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Why Does The Pope Keep Lying ?
It's what Popes do.
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25 Nov 2005 08:34:19 AM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> suddenly spluttered:
"newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Why Does The Pope Keep Lying ?
It's what Popes do.
It's what believers do.
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Conflict over the exact will/purpose/nature of God cannot ever be
resolved, since there are no facts to go on.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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25 Nov 2005 01:15:10 PM |
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On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 02:32:43 -0500, "Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
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"newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1132890057.215422.20070@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Why Does The Pope Keep Lying ?
It's what Popes do.
no, hypathia, popes don't do that.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "newzguys" |
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26 Nov 2005 04:38:57 AM |
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So the sun does go around the earth as all the popes said for 300+
years
after Galileo proved them wrong?
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26 Nov 2005 07:19:02 PM |
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On 25 Nov 2005 20:38:57 -0800, "newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote:
So the sun does go around the earth as all the popes said for 300+
years
after Galileo proved them wrong?
What part of what Galileo said makes you think the Pope disagreed with Galileo?
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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28 Nov 2005 04:18:14 AM |
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Everything, The popes up until pope John Paul agreed that the bible
says the sun goes around the earth, not the earth goes around the
sun. After 300+ years they finally said Galileo was right. Are
you now saying the bible is right in saying Psalms 104:5 the sun
moves , and Ecclesiastes 1:4-5 for the earth's stability . As final
proof of the falsity of the Copernican system. As said: in 1631 by
Father Melchior Inchofer, a Jesuit, said, "The opinion of the earth's
motion is of all heresies the most abominable, the most pernicious,
the most scandalous; the immovability of the earth is thrice sacred;
argument against the immortality of the soul, the existence of God,
and the incarnation, should be tolerated sooner than an argument
to prove that the earth moves." Father Fromundus, a theologian of
Antwerp, chimed in that "sacred Scripture fights against the
Copernicans." To prove his points he cited the passages in
Psalms for the sun's motion (104:5), and Ecclesiastes for the
earth's stability (1:4-5). As final proof of the falsity of the
Copernican system.
On 16 June 1633 after the Inquisition the text of Galileo's abjuration
was ordered circulated, with Pope Urban's VIII approval, to papal
nuncios across Europe, so that they may "recognize the gravity of his
error, in order that they may avoid it, and thus not incur the
penalties
which they would have to suffer in case they fell into the same.
" New publications of Galileo's works, or those with a Copernican
basis, were forbidden. At the same time, opponents of the
Copernican system were encouraged to refute the theory, knowing
they could not be answered.
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26 Nov 2005 08:22:26 PM |
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In News f7dho15qa3ocb6h67bba0t1odsoiuut120@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On 25 Nov 2005 20:38:57 -0800, "newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote:
So the sun does go around the earth as all the popes said for 300+
years
after Galileo proved them wrong?
What part of what Galileo said makes you think the Pope disagreed
with Galileo?
The fact that all of the Popes until that time believed in the Aristotolean,
Earth centric model of the universe. Oh, and that whole excommunication
thing.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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27 Nov 2005 03:04:47 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:22:26 GMT, "Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL10@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
wrote:
So the sun does go around the earth as all the popes said for 300+
years
after Galileo proved them wrong?
What part of what Galileo said makes you think the Pope disagreed
with Galileo?
The fact that all of the Popes until that time believed in the Aristotolean,
Earth centric model of the universe.
Nope, that's not it.
Oh, and that whole excommunication
thing.
But you got the reason wrong.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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26 Nov 2005 05:15:52 PM |
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On 25 Nov 2005 20:38:57 -0800, "newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote:
So the sun does go around the earth as all the popes said for 300+
years after Galileo proved them wrong?
Yes, just as is homosexual marriage is wrong,
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| User: "L. Michael Roberts" |
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27 Nov 2005 02:09:42 PM |
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wrote:
On 25 Nov 2005 20:38:57 -0800, "newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote:
So the sun does go around the earth as all the popes said for 300+
years after Galileo proved them wrong?
Yes,
Your world is gerocentrc? Which planet are you posing from?
<snip>
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+==================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Goderich, Ont, Canada. To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail
"Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
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| User: "duke" |
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27 Nov 2005 07:53:54 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:09:42 -0500, "L. Michael Roberts"
<L_Michael_Roberts@nospam.com> wrote:
default@easynews.com wrote:
On 25 Nov 2005 20:38:57 -0800, "newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote:
So the sun does go around the earth as all the popes said for 300+
years after Galileo proved them wrong?
Yes,
Your world is gerocentrc? Which planet are you posing from?
<snip>
I'm not posing.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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27 Nov 2005 11:23:49 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:09:42 -0500, "L. Michael Roberts"
<L_Michael_Roberts@nospam.com> wrote:
default@easynews.com wrote:
On 25 Nov 2005 20:38:57 -0800, "newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote:
So the sun does go around the earth as all the popes said for 300+
years after Galileo proved them wrong?
Yes,
Your world is gerocentrc? Which planet are you posing from?
<snip>
I'm not posing.
OK I made a spelling mistake - my bad. The word should have been
"posting".
<sig snip>
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+==================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Goderich, Ont, Canada. To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail
"Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
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26 Nov 2005 07:19:37 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:15:52 GMT, wrote:
On 25 Nov 2005 20:38:57 -0800, "newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote:
So the sun does go around the earth as all the popes said for 300+
years after Galileo proved them wrong?
Yes, just as is homosexual marriage is wrong,
There is no such thing as homosexual marriage.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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26 Nov 2005 08:22:40 PM |
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In News d9dho1178c8b3nhhsk8j7u4e6fhimn381b@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:15:52 GMT, wrote:
On 25 Nov 2005 20:38:57 -0800, "newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote:
So the sun does go around the earth as all the popes said for 300+
years after Galileo proved them wrong?
Yes, just as is homosexual marriage is wrong,
There is no such thing as homosexual marriage.
Yes, there is.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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27 Nov 2005 03:01:19 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:22:40 GMT, "Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL10@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
wrote:
There is no such thing as homosexual marriage.
Yes, there is.
Nope. There is a civil contract, but no marriage. Marriage has, is and always
be a joining of one man to one woman in the sight of God. It's biblical.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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27 Nov 2005 03:17:20 PM |
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In News lfijo157rj19cphrf9l2c640tqu8ttrumv@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:22:40 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL10@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
There is no such thing as homosexual marriage.
Yes, there is.
Nope.
Yep.
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Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
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27 Nov 2005 06:15:50 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:01:19 -0600, in alt.atheism
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
<lfijo157rj19cphrf9l2c640tqu8ttrumv@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:22:40 GMT, "Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL10@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
wrote:
There is no such thing as homosexual marriage.
Yes, there is.
Nope. There is a civil contract, but no marriage. Marriage has, is and always
be a joining of one man to one woman in the sight of God. It's biblical.
Are you really so ignorant of other cultures that you don't know that
marriages existed in cultures that never had or used the Bible?
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27 Nov 2005 06:19:09 PM |
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In News 8ttjo1h30kscs2ilh5jem17rk9tb4d7r2v@4ax.com,, David Jensen at
david@dajensen-family.com, typed this:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:01:19 -0600, in alt.atheism
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
<lfijo157rj19cphrf9l2c640tqu8ttrumv@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:22:40 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL10@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:
There is no such thing as homosexual marriage.
Yes, there is.
Nope. There is a civil contract, but no marriage. Marriage has, is
and always be a joining of one man to one woman in the sight of God.
It's biblical.
Are you really so ignorant of other cultures that you don't know that
marriages existed in cultures that never had or used the Bible?
LOL! These idoits imagine that they have some sort of proprietary claim on
the word "marriage".
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one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
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28 Nov 2005 05:15:32 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:15:50 -0600, David Jensen
<david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:01:19 -0600, in alt.atheism
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
<lfijo157rj19cphrf9l2c640tqu8ttrumv@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:22:40 GMT, "Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL10@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
wrote:
There is no such thing as homosexual marriage.
Yes, there is.
Nope. There is a civil contract, but no marriage. Marriage has, is and always
be a joining of one man to one woman in the sight of God. It's biblical.
Are you really so ignorant of other cultures that you don't know that
marriages existed in cultures that never had or used the Bible?
The Puke bacteria is terminally ignorant of other cultures.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
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28 Nov 2005 04:19:55 AM |
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duke wrote:
Nope. There is a civil contract, but no marriage. Marriage has, is and always
be a joining of one man to one woman in the sight of God. It's biblical.
Tell that to Solomon.
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"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
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26 Nov 2005 07:26:45 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:19:37 -0600, in alt.atheism
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:15:52 GMT, wrote:
On 25 Nov 2005 20:38:57 -0800, "newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote:
So the sun does go around the earth as all the popes said for 300+
years after Galileo proved them wrong?
Yes, just as is homosexual marriage is wrong,
There is no such thing as homosexual marriage.
For once I agree with you. Marriage is marriage, whoever decides to do
it.
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27 Nov 2005 03:50:56 AM |
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Tell that to all those who the Church married as a same sex couple up
until the 19th century. As well as David to Jonathan and Michal in a
same sex polyandrous marriage.
Legal references to marriages of two males, that still exist, occur
as early as the 4th, 5th, and 6th centuries. Montaigne saw it
performed in Rome in his lifetime. Venetian ambassadors to
Rome in the 17th and 18th centuries wrote of the same sex
marriage practice.
Nazi Popes can lie, but they cannot hide from the truth forever.
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27 Nov 2005 12:02:10 PM |
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"newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Tell that to all those who the Church married as a same sex couple up
until the 19th century. As well as David to Jonathan and Michal in a
same sex polyandrous marriage.
Legal references to marriages of two males, that still exist, occur
as early as the 4th, 5th, and 6th centuries. Montaigne saw it
performed in Rome in his lifetime. Venetian ambassadors to
Rome in the 17th and 18th centuries wrote of the same sex
marriage practice.
Nazi Popes can lie, but they cannot hide from the truth forever.
they weren't gay! they were just really close friends!
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| User: "newzguys" |
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28 Nov 2005 04:00:53 AM |
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So was Liberace and his boy friend
http://www.findadeath.com/Deceased/l/liberace/libera6.jpg
and Rock Hudson and his boy friend Marc Christian, yes just friends!
And King David and Jonathan were just friends, that's why they kissed
and
got married.
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27 Nov 2005 03:02:28 PM |
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On 26 Nov 2005 19:50:56 -0800, "newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tell that to all those who the Church married as a same sex couple up
until the 19th century.
They didn't.
As well as David to Jonathan and Michal in a
same sex polyandrous marriage.
They didn't.
Legal references to marriages of two males, that still exist, occur
as early as the 4th, 5th, and 6th centuries. Montaigne saw it
performed in Rome in his lifetime. Venetian ambassadors to
Rome in the 17th and 18th centuries wrote of the same sex
marriage practice.
Not a marriage.
Nazi Popes can lie, but they cannot hide from the truth forever.
No need to lie.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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28 Nov 2005 04:15:59 AM |
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Well in a way you are right, because a marriage in the time of the
bible between a man and a woman was no more than a bill of sales
for the property of the woman to the husband. Where as the marriage
of two men was performed in the church itself and was a sacrament
by the Roman Catholic Church.
It was not until 1215 at The Fourth Lateran Council that heterosexual
marriage was officially declared a sacrament by the Roman Catholic
Church, and consent was recognized as a necessary component
of the union.
You can stick your head in the sand and hope it is not true, but
that will not change the facts.
Only gays got married in the traditional since as it is today, not
men to women. David did indeed marry Jonathan the bible says
so repeatedly
1 Samuel 18:
21 And Saul said, I will give him her, that she may be a
snare to him, and that the hand of the Philistines may be
upon him. And Saul said to David, Thou shalt this day be my
son-in-law a second time. - Darby
2 Samuel 21:
7 But the king spared Mephibosheth, the son of Jonathan the
son of Saul, because of the LORD'S oath that was between them,
between David and Jonathan the son of Saul.
Psa 133:
1 A Song of degrees of David. Behold, how good and how pleasant
it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!
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27 Nov 2005 04:42:16 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 26 Nov 2005 19:50:56 -0800, "newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tell that to all those who the Church married as a same sex couple up
until the 19th century.
They didn't.
As well as David to Jonathan and Michal in a
same sex polyandrous marriage.
They didn't.
Legal references to marriages of two males, that still exist, occur
as early as the 4th, 5th, and 6th centuries. Montaigne saw it
performed in Rome in his lifetime. Venetian ambassadors to
Rome in the 17th and 18th centuries wrote of the same sex
marriage practice.
Not a marriage.
Nazi Popes can lie, but they cannot hide from the truth forever.
No need to lie.
You don't know what's being discussed here, do you?
-- Fritz ...
A study of theology is a study of nothing.
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27 Nov 2005 07:53:15 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:42:16 -0500, Fritz <people@rest.net> wrote:
As well as David to Jonathan and Michal in a
same sex polyandrous marriage.
They didn't.
Legal references to marriages of two males, that still exist, occur
as early as the 4th, 5th, and 6th centuries. Montaigne saw it
performed in Rome in his lifetime. Venetian ambassadors to
Rome in the 17th and 18th centuries wrote of the same sex
marriage practice.
Not a marriage.
Nazi Popes can lie, but they cannot hide from the truth forever.
No need to lie.
You don't know what's being discussed here, do you?
-- Fritz ...
Sounds like you think there is such a thing as a homosexual marriage.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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27 Nov 2005 11:22:45 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:42:16 -0500, Fritz <people@rest.net> wrote:
As well as David to Jonathan and Michal in a
same sex polyandrous marriage.
They didn't.
Legal references to marriages of two males, that still exist, occur
as early as the 4th, 5th, and 6th centuries. Montaigne saw it
performed in Rome in his lifetime. Venetian ambassadors to
Rome in the 17th and 18th centuries wrote of the same sex
marriage practice.
Not a marriage.
Nazi Popes can lie, but they cannot hide from the truth forever.
No need to lie.
You don't know what's being discussed here, do you?
-- Fritz ...
Sounds like you think there is such a thing as a homosexual marriage.
You are right, there is no such thing as homosexual marriage juts as
there is no such thing as heterosexual marriage. The sexual orientation
of the parties to a marriage contract are not required on the
application form.
However, here in the land of the free, Canada, we do have same-sex
marriage and homosexuals have been known to enter into same-sex marriage
contracts.
<sig snip>
--
+==================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
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| Title: Re: * Why Does The Pope Keep Lying ? |
28 Nov 2005 04:01:01 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:42:16 -0500, Fritz <people@rest.net> wrote:
As well as David to Jonathan and Michal in a
same sex polyandrous marriage.
They didn't.
Legal references to marriages of two males, that still exist, occur
as early as the 4th, 5th, and 6th centuries. Montaigne saw it
performed in Rome in his lifetime. Venetian ambassadors to
Rome in the 17th and 18th centuries wrote of the same sex
marriage practice.
Not a marriage.
Nazi Popes can lie, but they cannot hide from the truth forever.
No need to lie.
You don't know what's being discussed here, do you?
-- Fritz ...
Sounds like you think there is such a thing as a homosexual marriage.
There is dear, but not likely you would know about it.
It's happening out in the real world.
-- Fritz ...
A study of theology is a study of nothing.
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