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22 Sep 2007 04:48:28 PM |
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1 Timothy 6: 13-16. 9-22-2007. |
Exhortations To Timothy.
I charge you before God, who gives life to all things, and before
Christ Jesus, who gave testimony under Pontius Pilate for the noble
confession, to keep the commandment without stain or reproach until
the appearance of our Lord Jesus Christ that the blessed and only
ruler will make manifest at the proper time, the King of kings and
Lord of lords, who alone has immortality, who dwells in unapproachable
light, and whom no human being has seen or can see. To him be honor
and eternal power. Amen.
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Also read:
Luke 8: 4-15.
Psalm 100: 1-5.
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| User: "John Smith" |
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| Title: Re: 1 Timothy 6: 13-16. 9-22-2007. |
22 Sep 2007 10:36:21 PM |
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<vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1190497708.892012.323440@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Exhortations To Timothy.
I charge you before God, who gives life to all things, and before
Christ Jesus, who gave testimony under Pontius Pilate for the noble
confession, to keep the commandment without stain or reproach until
the appearance of our Lord Jesus Christ that the blessed and only
ruler will make manifest at the proper time, the King of kings and
Lord of lords, who alone has immortality, who dwells in unapproachable
light, and whom no human being has seen or can see. To him be honor
and eternal power. Amen.
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Also read:
Luke 8: 4-15.
Psalm 100: 1-5.
Sure --- soon after I finish the latest Batman comic book.
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: 1 Timothy 6: 13-16. 9-22-2007. |
22 Sep 2007 07:59:58 PM |
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"vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote in
news:1190497708.892012.323440@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
Exhortations To Timothy.
I charge you before God, who gives life to all things, and before
Christ Jesus, who gave testimony under Pontius Pilate ...
And Christ was stumped by Pilate when asked "What is truth?".
... for the noble
confession, to keep the commandment without stain or reproach ...
< chuckle! > In a previous letter Paul admits to being foremost among
sinners, yet here he is telling others how to behave.
But then again, hypocrisy IS the christian way.
Also read:
Luke 8: 4-15.
Psalm 100: 1-5.
Couldn't be bothered.
Regards,
Josef
Reason obeys itself, and Ignorance submits to whatever is
dictated to it.
-- Thomas Paine
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: 1 Timothy 6: 13-16. 9-22-2007. |
24 Sep 2007 05:11:32 PM |
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On Sep 22, 5:59?pm, Josef Balluch <josef.ball...@sympatico.can> wrote:
"vivapadre...@aol.com" <vivapadre...@aol.com> wrote innews:1190497708.892012.323440@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
Exhortations To Timothy.
I charge you before God, who gives life to all things, and before
Christ Jesus, who gave testimony under Pontius Pilate ...
And Christ was stumped by Pilate when asked "What is truth?".
It was Pilate who was stumped, when he didn't understand Christ's
silence as being a sufficient answer. No doubt you were stumped, too,
until now.
God does not measure out his love or his blessings any differently
today than he did back then. Every day, he is prepared to pour wisdom
and insight into your heart to help you understand the plans he has
for you. Every day, he wants to convince you that they are "plans for
your welfare, not for woe! plans to give you a future full of hope."
-- Jeremiah 29: 11.
... for the noble
confession, to keep the commandment without stain or reproach ...
< chuckle! > In a previous letter Paul admits to being foremost among
sinners, yet here he is telling others how to behave.
But then again, hypocrisy IS the christian way.
Every man is a sinner, but you are to stay on the straight and narrow
path, teaching the golden rule. Do not be a slave to your sins! Keep
in mind the seven deadly sins, and tend to your business, not judging
others, but instructing them, for there is but one true judge, who
renders a perfect verdict and punishment for each.
Also read:
Luke 8: 4-15.
Psalm 100: 1-5.
Couldn't be bothered.
Regards,
Josef
Reason obeys itself, and Ignorance submits to whatever is
dictated to it.
-- Thomas Paine
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: 1 Timothy 6: 13-16. 9-22-2007. |
24 Sep 2007 05:36:13 PM |
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"vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote in
news:1190671892.126469.149380@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
On Sep 22, 5:59?pm, Josef Balluch <josef.ball...@sympatico.can> wrote:
"vivapadre...@aol.com" <vivapadre...@aol.com> wrote
innews:1190497708.892012.323440@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
I charge you before God, who gives life to all things, and before
Christ Jesus, who gave testimony under Pontius Pilate ...
And Christ was stumped by Pilate when asked "What is truth?".
It was Pilate who was stumped, ...
There was no indication that Pilate was dissatisfied.
... when he didn't understand Christ's
silence as being a sufficient answer.
Pilate understood.
http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.religion/msg/8e9ed6a9908e051b
No doubt you were stumped, too,
until now.
Keep guessin', padre. That's what theists do best.
Do not be a slave to your sins!
That is so very ironic, coming from you.
Keep
in mind the seven deadly sins, ...
Why don't you lead by example, padre?
Regards,
Josef
We believe nothing so firmly as what we least know.
-- Michel de Montaigne
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: 1 Timothy 6: 13-16. 9-22-2007. |
24 Sep 2007 08:31:27 PM |
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"vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote in
news:1190671892.126469.149380@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
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God does not measure out his love or his blessings any differently
today than he did back then. Every day, he is prepared to pour wisdom
and insight into your heart to help you understand the plans he has
for you. Every day, he wants to convince you that they are "plans for
your welfare, not for woe! plans to give you a future full of hope."
-- -- Jeremiah 29: 11
For thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Let not your prophets
and your diviners, that be in the midst of you, deceive you, neither
hearken to your dreams which ye cause to be dreamed.
For they prophesy falsely unto you in my name: I have not sent them, saith
the Lord.
-- Jeremiah 29:8,9
Regards,
Josef
When a society is in decline, people are bound to turn to belief
in gods; when a man is foolish, he eagerly prays for good luck.
-- Wang Chong
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: 1 Timothy 6: 13-16. 9-22-2007. |
24 Sep 2007 07:56:54 PM |
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"vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote in
news:1190671892.126469.149380@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
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And Christ was stumped by Pilate when asked "What is truth?".
It was Pilate who was stumped, when he didn't understand Christ's
silence as being a sufficient answer. No doubt you were stumped, too,
until now.
God does not measure out his love or his blessings any differently
today than he did back then. Every day, he is prepared to pour wisdom
and insight into your heart to help you understand the plans he has
for you. Every day, he wants to convince you that they are "plans for
your welfare, not for woe! plans to give you a future full of hope."
-- Jeremiah 29: 11.
Open your heart to Vishnu, padre, and Vishnu will show you the truth. You
have his word on it.
Regards,
Josef
Religion is man's attempt to communicate with the weather.
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| User: "les_on_usenet" |
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| Title: Re: 1 Timothy 6: 13-16. 9-22-2007. |
23 Sep 2007 02:58:12 AM |
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:59:58 +0200 (CEST), Josef Balluch
<josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
"vivapadrepio@aol.com" <vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote in
news:1190497708.892012.323440@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
Exhortations To Timothy.
I charge you before God, who gives life to all things, and before
Christ Jesus, who gave testimony under Pontius Pilate ...
And Christ was stumped by Pilate when asked "What is truth?".
... for the noble
confession, to keep the commandment without stain or reproach ...
< chuckle! > In a previous letter Paul admits to being foremost among
sinners, yet here he is telling others how to behave.
But then again, hypocrisy IS the christian way.
Also read:
Luke 8: 4-15.
Psalm 100: 1-5.
Couldn't be bothered.
Well exactly. We should we be. I can learn far more about
life from a great poet such as Shakespeare than I can from
the Bible which has little, if anything, to offer.
I really do not understand this chap. It should be more than clear
to him by now that we are singularly unimpressed by his Bible
If he is a Christian and padre as his address implies then he
is supposed to be evangelising and selling his religion (which
incidentally is in violation of the newsgroup charter). As the
non-believers we are ones he is supposed to be approaching!
I am merely asking the same basic question that any non-believer
with a modicum of common sense would ask. If he does, indeed
wish to persuade me and others of his beliefs then he aught
to be prepared to answer them. Yet he does not even try. Instead
he sticks his tonque out at us and then simply ignores us.
I cannot image a car salsemen selling many cars if when asked
the price he stuck his tonque out and then ignored his
potential customer.
So Mr. Anonymous has failed even to get over the first hurdle
in his endeavour to sell his religion. Quoting chunks from the
Bibe is, as I say like putting the cart before the horse
For goodness sake most nin-believers would probably just
ignore him and walk away. Here he has a ready audience
asking him questions. What better chance has he to persuade
somebody.
Yet he sticks his tonque out at us and then ignores us!
This is a strange way to sell his religion and is bound
to fail. Thus far he comes across as a fool
I have asked him why he continues this futile quoting
but he does not answer. Clearly he is failing his basic
task of evangelising so perhaps that is not his reason.
Nah it beats me perhaps fool is the best description
other than complete failure.
Les Hellawell
Greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: 1 Timothy 6: 13-16. 9-22-2007. |
23 Sep 2007 04:49:33 PM |
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les_on_usenet <delete-unread@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote in
news:546cf3ta34m9et1tfdplr4dr49jm6p1f87@4ax.com:
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Yet he sticks his tonque out at us and then ignores us!
This is a strange way to sell his religion and is bound
to fail. Thus far he comes across as a fool
Poor sots like the padre have been told that the world is crying out for
salvation. Thus they rush in with enthusiasm and are horrified when their
myth is rejected. They then proceeed through the various stages of trauma,
ie: denial, anger, etc.
Regards,
Josef
Nothing, and no one, should be placed beyond the bounds of
rational criticism.
-- Graham Priest
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