On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 12:57:11 -0500, forge
<forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote:

In article <o62oo0hn77k8rrmfdcgd2blavm6k781v1b@4ax.com>,
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

2. Bury Fox News, FrontPageMag, Weekly Standard, Newsmax, Drudge, and
any
other news outlet caught routinely promoting verifiable lies. Legal
action,
boycotts, movie documentaries, whatever it takes.

The worst actors are ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN.

Oh please! If those networks were as bad as Drudge and Fox they'd be
unwatchable.

They are much worst. I never touch them anymore, not after Fox.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****

In article <o62oo0hn77k8rrmfdcgd2blavm6k781v1b@4ax.com>,
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

3. Begin massive nationally organized protests aimed at bringing
Washington DC to a week-long standstill any time another radical
religious kook is being voted on in Congress.

Well, let's run the atheists out of the country first. I thought you
would be interested in fairness.

Yeah, that's fair. Keeping religious radicals out of government equals
keeping people who dont give a ***** about religion out of the whole
country altogether. Do you actually think about what you type before
you type it?

In article <o62oo0hn77k8rrmfdcgd2blavm6k781v1b@4ax.com>,
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

3. Begin massive nationally organized protests aimed at bringing Washington
DC to a week-long standstill any time another radical religious kook is
being voted on in Congress.

Well, let's run the atheists out of the country first. I thought you would
be interested in fairness.

Yeah, that's fair. Keeping religious radicals out of government equals
keeping people who dont give a ***** about religion out of the whole
country altogether. Do you actually think about what you type before you
type it?

In article <o62oo0hn77k8rrmfdcgd2blavm6k781v1b@4ax.com>,
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

4. Begin massive projects to drag the skeletons out of the closets of the
wackjob GOP operatives put in place by the Bush junta. To copy the
republicans, add exposure and harrassment of their families.

so you want to bury the constitution.

Why not? It's exactly what the Republicans have done to all their
opponents. Try to keep up now.

From: Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net>
High_Colonic@webtv.net (Miss Anne Thrope) wrote in

After reading your post, I now doubt the validity of evolution.

It's about time you saw the light.

Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:<1099669359.PvyR39WfTI+7cHzmlzdh3Q@bubbanews>...

Here?s the best I can do for Democrats if they are serious about actually
winning elections in the future, and not just interested in calling
Republicans "idiots" and "liars." Here goes, try to follow along.

1) People who go to church are not evil. They also vote. There are lots of
them. You do the math.

Alot of them happen to be bigots. Doesn't mean I'm gonna paint my
skin white to fit in with them...

Anyway to address your point Kerry's was Catholic and had the same
views as Bush did on gay marriage (no but civil OK). By 'morals'
American voters really meant 'status quo'.

2) Americans like guns. This won't change. Ever. Work harder to put cop
killers into the electric chair, and stop reaching for Bubba's 12-guage
"duck-shredder" in the back window of his pickup.

What do you consider a valid upper limits on constitutional arms?
Nukes, Tanks, Mines, RPGs, TOWs, Assault rifles, Sniper rifles, etc.?
Personally I'm fine with small arms (home defense) and rifles (good
for hunting). Assault rifles with laser scopes are not meant nor
necessary for home defense as far as I'm concerned.

I didn't see this as a campaign issue whatsoever (and very few voters
said this mattered to them relative to other issues).

3) Get some balls on national defense. President JFK, won the biggest "No-
Limit Hold 'Em" hand of the 20th century against the Soviet Union during
the Cuban missile crisis. (And he was only holding two-Jacks!) What the
hell happened to you people ever since?

How so? You mean spend some more money on stealth tech when a
conventional cruise missile can hit the same target with greater
accuracy? Invest in a missile defence system, and undo MAD (mutually
ensured destruction) knowing that there are no 'rogue' nations capable
or near capable of ICBM tech... Remember how Bush agreed with Kerry
in the debates that insecure free nuclear materials was the most
important threat to the world? I wonder why he is still throwing all
this money into the missile shield and none into securing those
materials.... perhaps because defence companies profit from one and
not the other?

4) If you want to connect with the "common man", try NOT to nominate French
speaking, trophy-wife hunting, aloof windsurfers who can't even throw a
baseball 60'6".

Yeah, cause the common man knows so much about running the most
powerful nation in the world. "Let's all elect Buck from down the
street he does ever so good of a job running the convenience store!"

P.S. how 'common' do you really think Bush is? He's a
cocaine-snorting, Yale Skull graduate who's run every business he's
ever had into the ground and has lived off his daddy's handouts.
Yeah, that's real common....

5) Tell Michael Moore to go bury himself in a truckload of Hostess
Twinkies. Every party has their freak element. Do you see Pat Buchanan
being trotted out by the GOP anymore?

Let's play that game:
I see a guy who cheated in a debate by using a teleprompter, admits he
refuses to read or look at the news, was adamant about not even being
in the same studio as his opponent and who is of questionable mental
health actually winning a seat in Kentucky as a Republican.
I see Pat Robertson proclaiming everyday that Bush is God's man and
that voting against him is a vote for the devil.
Oh and don't forget Keyes...

Moore's a free man with free speech. You want to say something to him
than go find him.

6) If you think gays should have the right to get married, then win the
argument with the public first. Don't ask judges to cut corners for you.

No one asked them, they're doing their job - upholding the
consitution. We have courts because it is recognized that just
because the majority think something doesn't make it legal or
beneficial for society. Checks and balances are important in any
government.

7) Stop courting the "Youth Vote." Counting on a bunch of Ludacris blasting
punks to save you politically on election day, is like an NBA team saying:
"Don't worry, Shaq's gonna make these free throws."

It's not just courting, it's educating. When all you old bigots die
America is gonna be in the hands of people who actually care about the
phrase freedom and justice for all. One of those punks will be your
president one day, get used to it.

8) Have lunch with Zell Miller, and actually listen to what he has to say.
You tried dismissing him as a lunatic, but his convention speech was more
spot-on than a ketchup drop on a starched white business shirt. (Oops, I
was channeling my "inner Rather" there, sorry.)

To be honest didn't hear the speech, don't know him. Why don't you
post the transcript or something if it is so enlightening?

9) Stop taking Hollywood money. It not only makes actors think they have a
right to speak on your party?s behalf, but it has the addictive power of
political heroin. Better to hold a thousand small pancake dinners at WFV
halls in "red country."

I'll play:
Stop takin Fundamentalist money. It not only makes fundies think they
have a right to speak on your party's behalf, but it has the
addictive power of political heroin (You know how conservative like
complaining about special interest groups....). better to convince
some churchgoers that they're destined to hell unless they vote for
your guy.
OR Stop taking defense company monies. Oh wait, that doesn't go to
the caimpaign just straight to the BW/DC duo.

10) Lighten up, for once! America really doesn't suck as much as you seem
to think it does. I know liberals have a yearning for "utopian" (aka
"perfect") societies, but let's be real, all humans are flawed. If you
somehow find a way to see America as a great country constantly striving to
be better, you'll start moving into harmony with most Americans. A little
sunshine goes a long way.

Hey I accept that people are flawed, and I accept the world isn't
perfect. That doesn't mean I'm not going to try and make it better.
I also don't give a damn what the majority thinks. I will accept
things that are presented reasonably and logically to me, simply
repeating the same old statement doesn't work on most of those willing
to actually THINK. Hey, if conformity is what suits you go for it.

It's interesting how the conservatives are pushing the dems to
compromise. Before the election all they did was equate compromise
with weakness but now they advocate it every chance they get...