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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Gactimus"
Date: 05 Nov 2004 09:42:38 AM
Object: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party
Here’s the best I can do for Democrats if they are serious about actually
winning elections in the future, and not just interested in calling
Republicans "idiots" and "liars." Here goes, try to follow along.
1) People who go to church are not evil. They also vote. There are lots of
them. You do the math.
2) Americans like guns. This won't change. Ever. Work harder to put cop
killers into the electric chair, and stop reaching for Bubba's 12-guage
"duck-shredder" in the back window of his pickup.
3) Get some balls on national defense. President JFK, won the biggest "No-
Limit Hold 'Em" hand of the 20th century against the Soviet Union during
the Cuban missile crisis. (And he was only holding two-Jacks!) What the
hell happened to you people ever since?
4) If you want to connect with the "common man", try NOT to nominate French
speaking, trophy-wife hunting, aloof windsurfers who can't even throw a
baseball 60'6".
5) Tell Michael Moore to go bury himself in a truckload of Hostess
Twinkies. Every party has their freak element. Do you see Pat Buchanan
being trotted out by the GOP anymore?
6) If you think gays should have the right to get married, then win the
argument with the public first. Don't ask judges to cut corners for you.
7) Stop courting the "Youth Vote." Counting on a bunch of Ludacris blasting
punks to save you politically on election day, is like an NBA team saying:
"Don't worry, Shaq's gonna make these free throws."
8) Have lunch with Zell Miller, and actually listen to what he has to say.
You tried dismissing him as a lunatic, but his convention speech was more
spot-on than a ketchup drop on a starched white business shirt. (Oops, I
was channeling my "inner Rather" there, sorry.)
9) Stop taking Hollywood money. It not only makes actors think they have a
right to speak on your party’s behalf, but it has the addictive power of
political heroin. Better to hold a thousand small pancake dinners at WFV
halls in "red country."
10) Lighten up, for once! America really doesn't suck as much as you seem
to think it does. I know liberals have a yearning for "utopian" (aka
"perfect") societies, but let's be real, all humans are flawed. If you
somehow find a way to see America as a great country constantly striving to
be better, you'll start moving into harmony with most Americans. A little
sunshine goes a long way.
.

User: "ouroboros rex"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 05 Nov 2004 10:13:23 AM
1. Put the Fairness Doctrine back in place over the US media, and repeal
the telecommunications act of 1996.
2. Bury Fox News, FrontPageMag, Weekly Standard, Newsmax, Drudge, and any
other news outlet caught routinely promoting verifiable lies. Legal action,
boycotts, movie documentaries, whatever it takes.
3. Begin massive nationally organized protests aimed at bringing Washington
DC to a week-long standstill any time another radical religious kook is
being voted on in Congress.
4. Begin massive projects to drag the skeletons out of the closets of the
wackjob GOP operatives put in place by the Bush junta. To copy the
republicans, add exposure and harrassment of their families.
5. Outlaw, ban, or destroy all electronic voting machines without
verifiable, machine-countable paper reciepts - illegally if necessary, this
is America we are fighting for.
6. Sign petitions indicating your readiness to defend your female family
members from application of regressive abortion laws with deadly force on
your property.
7. Withdraw all funds from any financial institution shown to have backed
republicans over democrats in the last election.
8. Forever boycott all businesses that stumped, advertised, supported, or
otherwise advocated for the republican party.
9. Forever boycott all advertisers for TV stations that air anti-democratic
propaganda.
10. Remove yourself and your family from any house of worship that
supported the republican agenda this year. If you can get hardship money
out of them first, go for it.
.
User: "Gactimus"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 05 Nov 2004 10:12:00 AM
"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
news:cmg8r3$jf0$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:

1. Put the Fairness Doctrine back in place over the US media, and
repeal the telecommunications act of 1996.

2. Bury Fox News, FrontPageMag, Weekly Standard, Newsmax, Drudge, and
any other news outlet caught routinely promoting verifiable lies. Legal
action, boycotts, movie documentaries, whatever it takes.

3. Begin massive nationally organized protests aimed at bringing
Washington DC to a week-long standstill any time another radical
religious kook is being voted on in Congress.

4. Begin massive projects to drag the skeletons out of the closets of
the wackjob GOP operatives put in place by the Bush junta. To copy the
republicans, add exposure and harrassment of their families.

5. Outlaw, ban, or destroy all electronic voting machines without
verifiable, machine-countable paper reciepts - illegally if necessary,
this is America we are fighting for.

6. Sign petitions indicating your readiness to defend your female
family members from application of regressive abortion laws with deadly
force on your property.

7. Withdraw all funds from any financial institution shown to have
backed republicans over democrats in the last election.

8. Forever boycott all businesses that stumped, advertised, supported,
or otherwise advocated for the republican party.

9. Forever boycott all advertisers for TV stations that air
anti-democratic propaganda.

10. Remove yourself and your family from any house of worship that
supported the republican agenda this year. If you can get hardship
money out of them first, go for it.

So, essentially your plan to get Democrats back in power is to suppress
free speech and throw massive temper tantrums. You know, this is the reason
why the Democrats are *losing* elections.
.
User: "ouroboros rex"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 05 Nov 2004 10:19:48 AM
"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:1099671120.olg/oy8HSxBAuLMVh5arFw@bubbanews...

"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
news:cmg8r3$jf0$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:

1. Put the Fairness Doctrine back in place over the US media, and
repeal the telecommunications act of 1996.

2. Bury Fox News, FrontPageMag, Weekly Standard, Newsmax, Drudge, and
any other news outlet caught routinely promoting verifiable lies. Legal
action, boycotts, movie documentaries, whatever it takes.

3. Begin massive nationally organized protests aimed at bringing
Washington DC to a week-long standstill any time another radical
religious kook is being voted on in Congress.

4. Begin massive projects to drag the skeletons out of the closets of
the wackjob GOP operatives put in place by the Bush junta. To copy the
republicans, add exposure and harrassment of their families.

5. Outlaw, ban, or destroy all electronic voting machines without
verifiable, machine-countable paper reciepts - illegally if necessary,
this is America we are fighting for.

6. Sign petitions indicating your readiness to defend your female
family members from application of regressive abortion laws with deadly
force on your property.

7. Withdraw all funds from any financial institution shown to have
backed republicans over democrats in the last election.

8. Forever boycott all businesses that stumped, advertised, supported,
or otherwise advocated for the republican party.

9. Forever boycott all advertisers for TV stations that air
anti-democratic propaganda.

10. Remove yourself and your family from any house of worship that
supported the republican agenda this year. If you can get hardship
money out of them first, go for it.


So, essentially your plan to get Democrats back in power is to suppress
free speech and throw massive temper tantrums. You know, this is the
reason
why the Democrats are *losing* elections.

We'll see.
.
User: "Egbert Sousè"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 05 Nov 2004 10:35:08 AM
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:19:48 -0600, "ouroboros rex"
<c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:


"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:1099671120.olg/oy8HSxBAuLMVh5arFw@bubbanews...

"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
news:cmg8r3$jf0$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:

1. Put the Fairness Doctrine back in place over the US media, and
repeal the telecommunications act of 1996.

2. Bury Fox News, FrontPageMag, Weekly Standard, Newsmax, Drudge, and
any other news outlet caught routinely promoting verifiable lies. Legal
action, boycotts, movie documentaries, whatever it takes.

3. Begin massive nationally organized protests aimed at bringing
Washington DC to a week-long standstill any time another radical
religious kook is being voted on in Congress.

4. Begin massive projects to drag the skeletons out of the closets of
the wackjob GOP operatives put in place by the Bush junta. To copy the
republicans, add exposure and harrassment of their families.

5. Outlaw, ban, or destroy all electronic voting machines without
verifiable, machine-countable paper reciepts - illegally if necessary,
this is America we are fighting for.

6. Sign petitions indicating your readiness to defend your female
family members from application of regressive abortion laws with deadly
force on your property.

7. Withdraw all funds from any financial institution shown to have
backed republicans over democrats in the last election.

8. Forever boycott all businesses that stumped, advertised, supported,
or otherwise advocated for the republican party.

9. Forever boycott all advertisers for TV stations that air
anti-democratic propaganda.

10. Remove yourself and your family from any house of worship that
supported the republican agenda this year. If you can get hardship
money out of them first, go for it.


So, essentially your plan to get Democrats back in power is to suppress
free speech and throw massive temper tantrums. You know, this is the
reason
why the Democrats are *losing* elections.


We'll see.

You saw. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
.
User: "ouroboros rex"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 05 Nov 2004 11:14:00 AM
"Egbert Sousè" <egbertsouse@WCF.com> wrote in message
news:srano0l7osd7pk18leq5k6qcpuf5h6i58t@4ax.com...

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:19:48 -0600, "ouroboros rex"
<c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:


"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:1099671120.olg/oy8HSxBAuLMVh5arFw@bubbanews...

"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
news:cmg8r3$jf0$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:

1. Put the Fairness Doctrine back in place over the US media, and
repeal the telecommunications act of 1996.

2. Bury Fox News, FrontPageMag, Weekly Standard, Newsmax, Drudge, and
any other news outlet caught routinely promoting verifiable lies.
Legal
action, boycotts, movie documentaries, whatever it takes.

3. Begin massive nationally organized protests aimed at bringing
Washington DC to a week-long standstill any time another radical
religious kook is being voted on in Congress.

4. Begin massive projects to drag the skeletons out of the closets of
the wackjob GOP operatives put in place by the Bush junta. To copy the
republicans, add exposure and harrassment of their families.

5. Outlaw, ban, or destroy all electronic voting machines without
verifiable, machine-countable paper reciepts - illegally if necessary,
this is America we are fighting for.

6. Sign petitions indicating your readiness to defend your female
family members from application of regressive abortion laws with deadly
force on your property.

7. Withdraw all funds from any financial institution shown to have
backed republicans over democrats in the last election.

8. Forever boycott all businesses that stumped, advertised, supported,
or otherwise advocated for the republican party.

9. Forever boycott all advertisers for TV stations that air
anti-democratic propaganda.

10. Remove yourself and your family from any house of worship that
supported the republican agenda this year. If you can get hardship
money out of them first, go for it.


So, essentially your plan to get Democrats back in power is to suppress
free speech and throw massive temper tantrums. You know, this is the
reason
why the Democrats are *losing* elections.


We'll see.

You saw. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

I saw poor black Ohioans waiting in line to vote at 3am with their kids in
tow thanks to republican cutpurse Kenneth Blackwell's year-long campaign to
steal the Ohio vote. That's what I saw.
beg for quarter all you want, next election we democrats will run it
republican-style.
.
User: "Gactimus"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 05 Nov 2004 11:25:43 AM
"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
news:cmgcco$kj2$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:


"Egbert Sousè" <egbertsouse@WCF.com> wrote in message
news:srano0l7osd7pk18leq5k6qcpuf5h6i58t@4ax.com...

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:19:48 -0600, "ouroboros rex"
<c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:


"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:1099671120.olg/oy8HSxBAuLMVh5arFw@bubbanews...

"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
news:cmg8r3$jf0$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:

1. Put the Fairness Doctrine back in place over the US media, and
repeal the telecommunications act of 1996.

2. Bury Fox News, FrontPageMag, Weekly Standard, Newsmax, Drudge,
and any other news outlet caught routinely promoting verifiable
lies. Legal
action, boycotts, movie documentaries, whatever it takes.

3. Begin massive nationally organized protests aimed at bringing
Washington DC to a week-long standstill any time another radical
religious kook is being voted on in Congress.

4. Begin massive projects to drag the skeletons out of the closets
of the wackjob GOP operatives put in place by the Bush junta. To
copy the republicans, add exposure and harrassment of their
families.

5. Outlaw, ban, or destroy all electronic voting machines without
verifiable, machine-countable paper reciepts - illegally if
necessary, this is America we are fighting for.

6. Sign petitions indicating your readiness to defend your female
family members from application of regressive abortion laws with
deadly force on your property.

7. Withdraw all funds from any financial institution shown to have
backed republicans over democrats in the last election.

8. Forever boycott all businesses that stumped, advertised,
supported, or otherwise advocated for the republican party.

9. Forever boycott all advertisers for TV stations that air
anti-democratic propaganda.

10. Remove yourself and your family from any house of worship that
supported the republican agenda this year. If you can get hardship
money out of them first, go for it.


So, essentially your plan to get Democrats back in power is to
suppress free speech and throw massive temper tantrums. You know,
this is the reason
why the Democrats are *losing* elections.


We'll see.

You saw. There are none so blind as those who will not see.


I saw poor black Ohioans waiting in line to vote at 3am with their
kids in
tow thanks to republican cutpurse Kenneth Blackwell's year-long campaign
to steal the Ohio vote. That's what I saw.

Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over Kerry.
.
User: "ouroboros rex"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 05 Nov 2004 12:22:21 PM
"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews...

"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
news:cmgcco$kj2$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:


"Egbert Sousè" <egbertsouse@WCF.com> wrote in message
news:srano0l7osd7pk18leq5k6qcpuf5h6i58t@4ax.com...

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:19:48 -0600, "ouroboros rex"
<c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:


"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:1099671120.olg/oy8HSxBAuLMVh5arFw@bubbanews...

"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
news:cmg8r3$jf0$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:

1. Put the Fairness Doctrine back in place over the US media, and
repeal the telecommunications act of 1996.

2. Bury Fox News, FrontPageMag, Weekly Standard, Newsmax, Drudge,
and any other news outlet caught routinely promoting verifiable
lies. Legal
action, boycotts, movie documentaries, whatever it takes.

3. Begin massive nationally organized protests aimed at bringing
Washington DC to a week-long standstill any time another radical
religious kook is being voted on in Congress.

4. Begin massive projects to drag the skeletons out of the closets
of the wackjob GOP operatives put in place by the Bush junta. To
copy the republicans, add exposure and harrassment of their
families.

5. Outlaw, ban, or destroy all electronic voting machines without
verifiable, machine-countable paper reciepts - illegally if
necessary, this is America we are fighting for.

6. Sign petitions indicating your readiness to defend your female
family members from application of regressive abortion laws with
deadly force on your property.

7. Withdraw all funds from any financial institution shown to have
backed republicans over democrats in the last election.

8. Forever boycott all businesses that stumped, advertised,
supported, or otherwise advocated for the republican party.

9. Forever boycott all advertisers for TV stations that air
anti-democratic propaganda.

10. Remove yourself and your family from any house of worship that
supported the republican agenda this year. If you can get hardship
money out of them first, go for it.


So, essentially your plan to get Democrats back in power is to
suppress free speech and throw massive temper tantrums. You know,
this is the reason
why the Democrats are *losing* elections.


We'll see.

You saw. There are none so blind as those who will not see.


I saw poor black Ohioans waiting in line to vote at 3am with their
kids in
tow thanks to republican cutpurse Kenneth Blackwell's year-long campaign
to steal the Ohio vote. That's what I saw.


Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over Kerry.

Prove it, bigmouth.
.
User: "Frank Pittel"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 05 Nov 2004 06:00:02 PM
In alt.politics.usa.republican ouroboros rex <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:
: "Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
: news:1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews...
: > "ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
: > news:cmgcco$kj2$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:
: >
: >>
: >> "Egbert Sous?" <egbertsouse@WCF.com> wrote in message
: >> news:srano0l7osd7pk18leq5k6qcpuf5h6i58t@4ax.com...
: >>> On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:19:48 -0600, "ouroboros rex"
: >>> <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:
: >>>
: >>>>
: >>>>"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
: >>>>news:1099671120.olg/oy8HSxBAuLMVh5arFw@bubbanews...
: >>>>> "ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
: >>>>> news:cmg8r3$jf0$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:
: >>>>>
: >>>>>> 1. Put the Fairness Doctrine back in place over the US media, and
: >>>>>> repeal the telecommunications act of 1996.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 2. Bury Fox News, FrontPageMag, Weekly Standard, Newsmax, Drudge,
: >>>>>> and any other news outlet caught routinely promoting verifiable
: >>>>>> lies. Legal
: >>>>>> action, boycotts, movie documentaries, whatever it takes.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 3. Begin massive nationally organized protests aimed at bringing
: >>>>>> Washington DC to a week-long standstill any time another radical
: >>>>>> religious kook is being voted on in Congress.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 4. Begin massive projects to drag the skeletons out of the closets
: >>>>>> of the wackjob GOP operatives put in place by the Bush junta. To
: >>>>>> copy the republicans, add exposure and harrassment of their
: >>>>>> families.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 5. Outlaw, ban, or destroy all electronic voting machines without
: >>>>>> verifiable, machine-countable paper reciepts - illegally if
: >>>>>> necessary, this is America we are fighting for.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 6. Sign petitions indicating your readiness to defend your female
: >>>>>> family members from application of regressive abortion laws with
: >>>>>> deadly force on your property.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 7. Withdraw all funds from any financial institution shown to have
: >>>>>> backed republicans over democrats in the last election.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 8. Forever boycott all businesses that stumped, advertised,
: >>>>>> supported, or otherwise advocated for the republican party.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 9. Forever boycott all advertisers for TV stations that air
: >>>>>> anti-democratic propaganda.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 10. Remove yourself and your family from any house of worship that
: >>>>>> supported the republican agenda this year. If you can get hardship
: >>>>>> money out of them first, go for it.
: >>>>>
: >>>>> So, essentially your plan to get Democrats back in power is to
: >>>>> suppress free speech and throw massive temper tantrums. You know,
: >>>>> this is the reason
: >>>>> why the Democrats are *losing* elections.
: >>>>
: >>>> We'll see.
: >>>>
: >>> You saw. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
: >>
: >> I saw poor black Ohioans waiting in line to vote at 3am with their
: >> kids in
: >> tow thanks to republican cutpurse Kenneth Blackwell's year-long campaign
: >> to steal the Ohio vote. That's what I saw.
: >
: > Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over Kerry.
: Prove it, bigmouth.
Bush beat ketchup boy by over 100,000 votes in Ohio.
--
Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
-------------------
fwp@deepthought.com
.
User: "Adam H."

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 05 Nov 2004 06:06:57 PM
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:00:02 -0600, Frank Pittel
<fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote, akin to the neighing and braying
of farmyard animals:

In alt.politics.usa.republican ouroboros rex <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:

: "Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
: news:1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews...
: > "ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
: > news:cmgcco$kj2$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:
: >
: >>
: >> "Egbert Sous?" <egbertsouse@WCF.com> wrote in message
: >> news:srano0l7osd7pk18leq5k6qcpuf5h6i58t@4ax.com...
: >>> On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:19:48 -0600, "ouroboros rex"
: >>> <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:
: >>>
: >>>>
: >>>>"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
: >>>>news:1099671120.olg/oy8HSxBAuLMVh5arFw@bubbanews...
: >>>>> "ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
: >>>>> news:cmg8r3$jf0$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:
: >>>>>
: >>>>>> 1. Put the Fairness Doctrine back in place over the US media, and
: >>>>>> repeal the telecommunications act of 1996.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 2. Bury Fox News, FrontPageMag, Weekly Standard, Newsmax, Drudge,
: >>>>>> and any other news outlet caught routinely promoting verifiable
: >>>>>> lies. Legal
: >>>>>> action, boycotts, movie documentaries, whatever it takes.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 3. Begin massive nationally organized protests aimed at bringing
: >>>>>> Washington DC to a week-long standstill any time another radical
: >>>>>> religious kook is being voted on in Congress.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 4. Begin massive projects to drag the skeletons out of the closets
: >>>>>> of the wackjob GOP operatives put in place by the Bush junta. To
: >>>>>> copy the republicans, add exposure and harrassment of their
: >>>>>> families.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 5. Outlaw, ban, or destroy all electronic voting machines without
: >>>>>> verifiable, machine-countable paper reciepts - illegally if
: >>>>>> necessary, this is America we are fighting for.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 6. Sign petitions indicating your readiness to defend your female
: >>>>>> family members from application of regressive abortion laws with
: >>>>>> deadly force on your property.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 7. Withdraw all funds from any financial institution shown to have
: >>>>>> backed republicans over democrats in the last election.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 8. Forever boycott all businesses that stumped, advertised,
: >>>>>> supported, or otherwise advocated for the republican party.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 9. Forever boycott all advertisers for TV stations that air
: >>>>>> anti-democratic propaganda.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> 10. Remove yourself and your family from any house of worship that
: >>>>>> supported the republican agenda this year. If you can get hardship
: >>>>>> money out of them first, go for it.
: >>>>>
: >>>>> So, essentially your plan to get Democrats back in power is to
: >>>>> suppress free speech and throw massive temper tantrums. You know,
: >>>>> this is the reason
: >>>>> why the Democrats are *losing* elections.
: >>>>
: >>>> We'll see.
: >>>>
: >>> You saw. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
: >>
: >> I saw poor black Ohioans waiting in line to vote at 3am with their
: >> kids in
: >> tow thanks to republican cutpurse Kenneth Blackwell's year-long campaign
: >> to steal the Ohio vote. That's what I saw.
: >
: > Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over Kerry.

: Prove it, bigmouth.

Bush beat ketchup boy by over 100,000 votes in Ohio.

Out of over 5 MILLION total. Hardly a convincingly large win.
--
The difference between Iraq and Vietnam?
Bush had a plan to get out of Vietnam.
.
User: "Frank Pittel"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 05 Nov 2004 07:14:15 PM
In alt.politics.usa.republican Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote:
: On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 18:00:02 -0600, Frank Pittel
: <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote, akin to the neighing and braying
: of farmyard animals:
: >In alt.politics.usa.republican ouroboros rex <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:
: >
: >: "Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
: >: news:1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews...
: >: > "ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
: >: > news:cmgcco$kj2$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:
: >: >
: >: >>
: >: >> "Egbert Sous?" <egbertsouse@WCF.com> wrote in message
: >: >> news:srano0l7osd7pk18leq5k6qcpuf5h6i58t@4ax.com...
: >: >>> On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:19:48 -0600, "ouroboros rex"
: >: >>> <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:
: >: >>>
: >: >>>>
: >: >>>>"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
: >: >>>>news:1099671120.olg/oy8HSxBAuLMVh5arFw@bubbanews...
: >: >>>>> "ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
: >: >>>>> news:cmg8r3$jf0$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:
: >: >>>>>
: >: >>>>>> 1. Put the Fairness Doctrine back in place over the US media, and
: >: >>>>>> repeal the telecommunications act of 1996.
: >: >>>>>>
: >: >>>>>> 2. Bury Fox News, FrontPageMag, Weekly Standard, Newsmax, Drudge,
: >: >>>>>> and any other news outlet caught routinely promoting verifiable
: >: >>>>>> lies. Legal
: >: >>>>>> action, boycotts, movie documentaries, whatever it takes.
: >: >>>>>>
: >: >>>>>> 3. Begin massive nationally organized protests aimed at bringing
: >: >>>>>> Washington DC to a week-long standstill any time another radical
: >: >>>>>> religious kook is being voted on in Congress.
: >: >>>>>>
: >: >>>>>> 4. Begin massive projects to drag the skeletons out of the closets
: >: >>>>>> of the wackjob GOP operatives put in place by the Bush junta. To
: >: >>>>>> copy the republicans, add exposure and harrassment of their
: >: >>>>>> families.
: >: >>>>>>
: >: >>>>>> 5. Outlaw, ban, or destroy all electronic voting machines without
: >: >>>>>> verifiable, machine-countable paper reciepts - illegally if
: >: >>>>>> necessary, this is America we are fighting for.
: >: >>>>>>
: >: >>>>>> 6. Sign petitions indicating your readiness to defend your female
: >: >>>>>> family members from application of regressive abortion laws with
: >: >>>>>> deadly force on your property.
: >: >>>>>>
: >: >>>>>> 7. Withdraw all funds from any financial institution shown to have
: >: >>>>>> backed republicans over democrats in the last election.
: >: >>>>>>
: >: >>>>>> 8. Forever boycott all businesses that stumped, advertised,
: >: >>>>>> supported, or otherwise advocated for the republican party.
: >: >>>>>>
: >: >>>>>> 9. Forever boycott all advertisers for TV stations that air
: >: >>>>>> anti-democratic propaganda.
: >: >>>>>>
: >: >>>>>> 10. Remove yourself and your family from any house of worship that
: >: >>>>>> supported the republican agenda this year. If you can get hardship
: >: >>>>>> money out of them first, go for it.
: >: >>>>>
: >: >>>>> So, essentially your plan to get Democrats back in power is to
: >: >>>>> suppress free speech and throw massive temper tantrums. You know,
: >: >>>>> this is the reason
: >: >>>>> why the Democrats are *losing* elections.
: >: >>>>
: >: >>>> We'll see.
: >: >>>>
: >: >>> You saw. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
: >: >>
: >: >> I saw poor black Ohioans waiting in line to vote at 3am with their
: >: >> kids in
: >: >> tow thanks to republican cutpurse Kenneth Blackwell's year-long campaign
: >: >> to steal the Ohio vote. That's what I saw.
: >: >
: >: > Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over Kerry.
: >
: >: Prove it, bigmouth.
: >
: >Bush beat ketchup boy by over 100,000 votes in Ohio.
: Out of over 5 MILLION total. Hardly a convincingly large win.
Over 5 million votes cast in Ohio and ketchup boy is the loser.
--
Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
-------------------
fwp@deepthought.com
.
User: "Dennis Kemmerer"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 05 Nov 2004 09:18:33 PM
"Frank Pittel" <fwp@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
news:ZcOdndTzypH6uBHcRVn-pw@giganews.com...

In alt.politics.usa.republican Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote:

[snip]

: >Bush beat ketchup boy by over 100,000 votes in Ohio.

: Out of over 5 MILLION total. Hardly a convincingly large win.

Over 5 million votes cast in Ohio and ketchup boy is the loser.

[woosh]
.




User: "Jason McNorton"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 05 Nov 2004 12:56:58 PM
In article <cmggct$m3d$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu>,
says...

=20
"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message=20
news:1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews...

"ouroboros rex" <

> wrote in
news:cmgcco$kj2$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:


"Egbert Sous=E8" <egbertsouse@WCF.com> wrote in message
news:srano0l7osd7pk18leq5k6qcpuf5h6i58t@4ax.com...

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:19:48 -0600, "ouroboros rex"
<

> wrote:


"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:1099671120.olg/oy8HSxBAuLMVh5arFw@bubbanews...

"ouroboros rex" <

> wrote in
news:cmg8r3$jf0$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:

1. Put the Fairness Doctrine back in place over the US media, and
repeal the telecommunications act of 1996.

2. Bury Fox News, FrontPageMag, Weekly Standard, Newsmax, Drudge,
and any other news outlet caught routinely promoting verifiable
lies. Legal
action, boycotts, movie documentaries, whatever it takes.

3. Begin massive nationally organized protests aimed at bringing
Washington DC to a week-long standstill any time another radical
religious kook is being voted on in Congress.

4. Begin massive projects to drag the skeletons out of the closet=

s

of the wackjob GOP operatives put in place by the Bush junta. To
copy the republicans, add exposure and harrassment of their
families.

5. Outlaw, ban, or destroy all electronic voting machines without
verifiable, machine-countable paper reciepts - illegally if
necessary, this is America we are fighting for.

6. Sign petitions indicating your readiness to defend your female
family members from application of regressive abortion laws with
deadly force on your property.

7. Withdraw all funds from any financial institution shown to hav=

e

backed republicans over democrats in the last election.

8. Forever boycott all businesses that stumped, advertised,
supported, or otherwise advocated for the republican party.

9. Forever boycott all advertisers for TV stations that air
anti-democratic propaganda.

10. Remove yourself and your family from any house of worship tha=

t

supported the republican agenda this year. If you can get hardshi=

p

money out of them first, go for it.


So, essentially your plan to get Democrats back in power is to
suppress free speech and throw massive temper tantrums. You know,
this is the reason
why the Democrats are *losing* elections.


We'll see.

You saw. There are none so blind as those who will not see.


I saw poor black Ohioans waiting in line to vote at 3am with their
kids in
tow thanks to republican cutpurse Kenneth Blackwell's year-long campai=

gn

to steal the Ohio vote. That's what I saw.


Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over Kerry.

=20
Prove it, bigmouth.=20

LOL.. Iowa and NM turned to Bush this year.
Not to mention the second election in a row that the democrats have just=20
plain gotten owned.
Look at the congressional results. An utter democrat defeat. After the=20
2002 utter defeat for them.
The proof is right there.
.
User: "ouroboros rex"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 05 Nov 2004 03:47:02 PM
"Jason McNorton" <jmcno@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bf588f763bdfedb9897dd@news-40.giganews.com...
In article <cmggct$m3d$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu>,
says...


"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews...

"ouroboros rex" <

> wrote in
news:cmgcco$kj2$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:


"Egbert Sousè" <egbertsouse@WCF.com> wrote in message
news:srano0l7osd7pk18leq5k6qcpuf5h6i58t@4ax.com...

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:19:48 -0600, "ouroboros rex"
<

> wrote:


"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:1099671120.olg/oy8HSxBAuLMVh5arFw@bubbanews...

"ouroboros rex" <

> wrote in
news:cmg8r3$jf0$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:

1. Put the Fairness Doctrine back in place over the US media, and
repeal the telecommunications act of 1996.

2. Bury Fox News, FrontPageMag, Weekly Standard, Newsmax, Drudge,
and any other news outlet caught routinely promoting verifiable
lies. Legal
action, boycotts, movie documentaries, whatever it takes.

3. Begin massive nationally organized protests aimed at bringing
Washington DC to a week-long standstill any time another radical
religious kook is being voted on in Congress.

4. Begin massive projects to drag the skeletons out of the closets
of the wackjob GOP operatives put in place by the Bush junta. To
copy the republicans, add exposure and harrassment of their
families.

5. Outlaw, ban, or destroy all electronic voting machines without
verifiable, machine-countable paper reciepts - illegally if
necessary, this is America we are fighting for.

6. Sign petitions indicating your readiness to defend your female
family members from application of regressive abortion laws with
deadly force on your property.

7. Withdraw all funds from any financial institution shown to have
backed republicans over democrats in the last election.

8. Forever boycott all businesses that stumped, advertised,
supported, or otherwise advocated for the republican party.

9. Forever boycott all advertisers for TV stations that air
anti-democratic propaganda.

10. Remove yourself and your family from any house of worship that
supported the republican agenda this year. If you can get hardship
money out of them first, go for it.


So, essentially your plan to get Democrats back in power is to
suppress free speech and throw massive temper tantrums. You know,
this is the reason
why the Democrats are *losing* elections.


We'll see.

You saw. There are none so blind as those who will not see.


I saw poor black Ohioans waiting in line to vote at 3am with their
kids in
tow thanks to republican cutpurse Kenneth Blackwell's year-long
campaign
to steal the Ohio vote. That's what I saw.


Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over Kerry.


Prove it, bigmouth.

LOL.. Iowa and NM turned to Bush this year.
Ohio. Remember?
Not to mention the second election in a row that the democrats have just
plain gotten owned.
Look at the congressional results. An utter democrat defeat. After the
2002 utter defeat for them.
The proof is right there.
That's what happens when republicans float ten different texas
redistricting plans, get them approved, then meet in a basement on Mother's
Day night at 10pm, create a new one that butchers everuybody's districts,
then bring it up the next day at 9am without debate. Then misuse Homeland
Security to chase down Texas senators, generating an ethics probe.
That's what republicans mean by bi-partisanship. No evil, no deception is
too much to win power.
.

User: "Frank Pittel"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 05 Nov 2004 06:04:00 PM
In alt.politics.usa.republican Jason McNorton <jmcno@comcast.net> wrote:
: In article <cmggct$m3d$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu>,
says...
: >
: > "Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
: > news:1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews...
: > > "ouroboros rex" <
> wrote in
: > > news:cmgcco$kj2$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:
: > >
: > >>
: > >> "Egbert Sous??" <egbertsouse@WCF.com> wrote in message
: > >> news:srano0l7osd7pk18leq5k6qcpuf5h6i58t@4ax.com...
: > >>> On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:19:48 -0600, "ouroboros rex"
: > >>> <
> wrote:
: > >>>
: > >>>>
: > >>>>"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
: > >>>>news:1099671120.olg/oy8HSxBAuLMVh5arFw@bubbanews...
: > >>>>> "ouroboros rex" <
> wrote in
: > >>>>> news:cmg8r3$jf0$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>>> 1. Put the Fairness Doctrine back in place over the US media, and
: > >>>>>> repeal the telecommunications act of 1996.
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>> 2. Bury Fox News, FrontPageMag, Weekly Standard, Newsmax, Drudge,
: > >>>>>> and any other news outlet caught routinely promoting verifiable
: > >>>>>> lies. Legal
: > >>>>>> action, boycotts, movie documentaries, whatever it takes.
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>> 3. Begin massive nationally organized protests aimed at bringing
: > >>>>>> Washington DC to a week-long standstill any time another radical
: > >>>>>> religious kook is being voted on in Congress.
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>> 4. Begin massive projects to drag the skeletons out of the closets
: > >>>>>> of the wackjob GOP operatives put in place by the Bush junta. To
: > >>>>>> copy the republicans, add exposure and harrassment of their
: > >>>>>> families.
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>> 5. Outlaw, ban, or destroy all electronic voting machines without
: > >>>>>> verifiable, machine-countable paper reciepts - illegally if
: > >>>>>> necessary, this is America we are fighting for.
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>> 6. Sign petitions indicating your readiness to defend your female
: > >>>>>> family members from application of regressive abortion laws with
: > >>>>>> deadly force on your property.
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>> 7. Withdraw all funds from any financial institution shown to have
: > >>>>>> backed republicans over democrats in the last election.
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>> 8. Forever boycott all businesses that stumped, advertised,
: > >>>>>> supported, or otherwise advocated for the republican party.
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>> 9. Forever boycott all advertisers for TV stations that air
: > >>>>>> anti-democratic propaganda.
: > >>>>>>
: > >>>>>> 10. Remove yourself and your family from any house of worship that
: > >>>>>> supported the republican agenda this year. If you can get hardship
: > >>>>>> money out of them first, go for it.
: > >>>>>
: > >>>>> So, essentially your plan to get Democrats back in power is to
: > >>>>> suppress free speech and throw massive temper tantrums. You know,
: > >>>>> this is the reason
: > >>>>> why the Democrats are *losing* elections.
: > >>>>
: > >>>> We'll see.
: > >>>>
: > >>> You saw. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
: > >>
: > >> I saw poor black Ohioans waiting in line to vote at 3am with their
: > >> kids in
: > >> tow thanks to republican cutpurse Kenneth Blackwell's year-long campaign
: > >> to steal the Ohio vote. That's what I saw.
: > >
: > > Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over Kerry.
: >
: > Prove it, bigmouth.
: LOL.. Iowa and NM turned to Bush this year.
: Not to mention the second election in a row that the democrats have just
: plain gotten owned.
: Look at the congressional results. An utter democrat defeat. After the
: 2002 utter defeat for them.
: The proof is right there.
With luck the looney tune brain dead moron loser lib dems will keep telling themselves
that they lost because the Republicans stole the election rather then actually sit down
and fiure out why the really lost. This will give Bush a filibuster proof senate in
2006 and guarantee a that the Republicans will win the win the presidency again in
2008.
--
Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
-------------------
fwp@deepthought.com
.

User: "forge"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 06 Nov 2004 12:07:06 PM
In article <MPG.1bf588f763bdfedb9897dd@news-40.giganews.com>,
Jason McNorton <jmcno@comcast.net> wrote:

LOL.. Iowa and NM turned to Bush this year.

Based on counts from black-box voting machines that haven't been
verified yet and might never be.
.



User: "forge"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 06 Nov 2004 12:06:13 PM
In article <1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over Kerry.

It wasn't that big and it's dwindling every day now that results are
coming in like the one in Ohio where 638 people voted for Bush 4258
times.
.
User: "Gactimus"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 07 Nov 2004 06:24:28 PM
forge <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in
news:forge-D0C378.13061306112004@comcast.dca.giganews.com:

In article <1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over Kerry.


It wasn't that big and it's dwindling every day now that results are
coming in like the one in Ohio where 638 people voted for Bush 4258
times.

Looks like it's still 3.5 million.
.
User: "David Fritzinger"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 07 Nov 2004 11:01:12 PM
In article <1099873469./VjIU0+SsWk3ibnSqDitGQ@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

forge <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in
news:forge-D0C378.13061306112004@comcast.dca.giganews.com:

In article <1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over Kerry.


It wasn't that big and it's dwindling every day now that results are
coming in like the one in Ohio where 638 people voted for Bush 4258
times.


Looks like it's still 3.5 million.

You do realize that Bush's lead is the smallest of any re-elected
president since Woodrow Wilson, don't you? So much for your mandate...
--
Dave Fritzinger
.
User: "Gactimus"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 08 Nov 2004 11:13:44 AM
David Fritzinger <dfritzinnospam@mac.com> wrote in
news:dfritzinnospam-2F83E2.19011207112004@orngca-news04.socal.rr.com:

In article <1099873469./VjIU0+SsWk3ibnSqDitGQ@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

forge <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in
news:forge-D0C378.13061306112004@comcast.dca.giganews.com:

In article <1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over Kerry.


It wasn't that big and it's dwindling every day now that results are
coming in like the one in Ohio where 638 people voted for Bush 4258
times.


Looks like it's still 3.5 million.


You do realize that Bush's lead is the smallest of any re-elected
president since Woodrow Wilson, don't you? So much for your mandate...

After losing the popular vote last time, Bush won the popular vote and the
election, despite a record turnout which traditionally favors Democrats,
and as well as making gains in both the House and the Senate. You can
whine all you want about how Bush "doesn't have a mandate" but he sure as
hell is going to govern like he has one whether you think he has a mandate
or not.
.
User: "Fester"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 08 Nov 2004 06:01:42 PM
"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:1099934024.edJ2U0WoEslz8LMo7z+yLA@bubbanews...

David Fritzinger <dfritzinnospam@mac.com> wrote in
news:dfritzinnospam-2F83E2.19011207112004@orngca-news04.socal.rr.com:

In article <1099873469./VjIU0+SsWk3ibnSqDitGQ@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

forge <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in
news:forge-D0C378.13061306112004@comcast.dca.giganews.com:

In article <1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over Kerry.


It wasn't that big and it's dwindling every day now that results are
coming in like the one in Ohio where 638 people voted for Bush 4258
times.


Looks like it's still 3.5 million.


You do realize that Bush's lead is the smallest of any re-elected
president since Woodrow Wilson, don't you? So much for your mandate...


After losing the popular vote last time, Bush won the popular vote and the
election, despite a record turnout which traditionally favors Democrats,
and as well as making gains in both the House and the Senate. You can
whine all you want about how Bush "doesn't have a mandate" but he sure as
hell is going to govern like he has one whether you think he has a mandate
or not.

This silliness about "mandates" is just hte losers' way of shouting, "we're
still releveant, we still count." They're pissing into the wind.
.

User: "David Fritzinger"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 08 Nov 2004 06:09:49 PM
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<1099934024.edJ2U0WoEslz8LMo7z+yLA@bubbanews>...

David Fritzinger <dfritzinnospam@mac.com> wrote in
news:dfritzinnospam-2F83E2.19011207112004@orngca-news04.socal.rr.com:

In article <1099873469./VjIU0+SsWk3ibnSqDitGQ@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

forge <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in
news:forge-D0C378.13061306112004@comcast.dca.giganews.com:

In article <1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over Kerry.


It wasn't that big and it's dwindling every day now that results are
coming in like the one in Ohio where 638 people voted for Bush 4258
times.


Looks like it's still 3.5 million.


You do realize that Bush's lead is the smallest of any re-elected
president since Woodrow Wilson, don't you? So much for your mandate...


After losing the popular vote last time, Bush won the popular vote and the
election, despite a record turnout which traditionally favors Democrats,
and as well as making gains in both the House and the Senate. You can
whine all you want about how Bush "doesn't have a mandate" but he sure as
hell is going to govern like he has one whether you think he has a mandate
or not.

You do realize that you failed to address my point at all, don't you?
Don't you?
Oh, I forgot. I was talking to Snubie, who can barely read...
And, another thing. Of course I expect him to govern as if he had a
real mandate. Hell, he did the same in his first term, when he
certainly had no mandate.
--
Dave Fritzinger
.
User: "Gactimus"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 08 Nov 2004 08:45:09 PM
(David Fritzinger) wrote in
news:b82925bb.0411081609.27e1f3ff@posting.google.com:

Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:<1099934024.edJ2U0WoEslz8LMo7z+yLA@bubbanews>...

David Fritzinger <dfritzinnospam@mac.com> wrote in
news:dfritzinnospam-2F83E2.19011207112004@orngca-news04.socal.rr.com:

In article <1099873469./VjIU0+SsWk3ibnSqDitGQ@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

forge <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in
news:forge-D0C378.13061306112004@comcast.dca.giganews.com:

In article <1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over
Kerry.


It wasn't that big and it's dwindling every day now that results
are coming in like the one in Ohio where 638 people voted for Bush
4258 times.


Looks like it's still 3.5 million.


You do realize that Bush's lead is the smallest of any re-elected
president since Woodrow Wilson, don't you? So much for your
mandate...


After losing the popular vote last time, Bush won the popular vote and
the election, despite a record turnout which traditionally favors
Democrats, and as well as making gains in both the House and the
Senate. You can whine all you want about how Bush "doesn't have a
mandate" but he sure as hell is going to govern like he has one whether
you think he has a mandate or not.


You do realize that you failed to address my point at all, don't you?
Don't you?

Oh, I forgot. I was talking to Snubie, who can barely read...

And, another thing. Of course I expect him to govern as if he had a
real mandate. Hell, he did the same in his first term, when he
certainly had no mandate.

It seems the only people who tend to care about mandate are the losers.
.
User: "David Fritzinger"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 08 Nov 2004 11:07:50 PM
In article <1099968309.iIA4ZYFDyAgbPxTsceU/JA@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

dfritzin@hotmail.com (David Fritzinger) wrote in
news:b82925bb.0411081609.27e1f3ff@posting.google.com:

Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:<1099934024.edJ2U0WoEslz8LMo7z+yLA@bubbanews>...

David Fritzinger <dfritzinnospam@mac.com> wrote in
news:dfritzinnospam-2F83E2.19011207112004@orngca-news04.socal.rr.com:

In article <1099873469./VjIU0+SsWk3ibnSqDitGQ@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

forge <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in
news:forge-D0C378.13061306112004@comcast.dca.giganews.com:

In article <1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over
Kerry.


It wasn't that big and it's dwindling every day now that results
are coming in like the one in Ohio where 638 people voted for Bush
4258 times.


Looks like it's still 3.5 million.


You do realize that Bush's lead is the smallest of any re-elected
president since Woodrow Wilson, don't you? So much for your
mandate...


After losing the popular vote last time, Bush won the popular vote and
the election, despite a record turnout which traditionally favors
Democrats, and as well as making gains in both the House and the
Senate. You can whine all you want about how Bush "doesn't have a
mandate" but he sure as hell is going to govern like he has one whether
you think he has a mandate or not.


You do realize that you failed to address my point at all, don't you?
Don't you?

Oh, I forgot. I was talking to Snubie, who can barely read...

And, another thing. Of course I expect him to govern as if he had a
real mandate. Hell, he did the same in his first term, when he
certainly had no mandate.


It seems the only people who tend to care about mandate are the losers.

Well, since you, and the other Republican supporters here are crowing
about a Bush mandate, I guess that makes all of you losers then. Now, in
your case, snubie, I know that to be true...
--
Dave Fritzinger
.
User: "Gactimus"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 09 Nov 2004 07:20:22 AM
David Fritzinger <dfritzin@macNoSpam.com> wrote in
news:dfritzin-6AA74C.19075008112004@orngca-news02.socal.rr.com:

In article <1099968309.iIA4ZYFDyAgbPxTsceU/JA@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

dfritzin@hotmail.com (David Fritzinger) wrote in
news:b82925bb.0411081609.27e1f3ff@posting.google.com:

Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:<1099934024.edJ2U0WoEslz8LMo7z+yLA@bubbanews>...

David Fritzinger <dfritzinnospam@mac.com> wrote in
news:dfritzinnospam-2F83E2.19011207112004@orngca-news04.socal.rr.com:

In article <1099873469./VjIU0+SsWk3ibnSqDitGQ@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

forge <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in
news:forge-D0C378.13061306112004@comcast.dca.giganews.com:

In article <1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over
Kerry.


It wasn't that big and it's dwindling every day now that results
are coming in like the one in Ohio where 638 people voted for
Bush 4258 times.


Looks like it's still 3.5 million.


You do realize that Bush's lead is the smallest of any re-elected
president since Woodrow Wilson, don't you? So much for your
mandate...


After losing the popular vote last time, Bush won the popular vote
and the election, despite a record turnout which traditionally
favors Democrats, and as well as making gains in both the House and
the Senate. You can whine all you want about how Bush "doesn't have
a mandate" but he sure as hell is going to govern like he has one
whether you think he has a mandate or not.


You do realize that you failed to address my point at all, don't you?
Don't you?

Oh, I forgot. I was talking to Snubie, who can barely read...

And, another thing. Of course I expect him to govern as if he had a
real mandate. Hell, he did the same in his first term, when he
certainly had no mandate.


It seems the only people who tend to care about mandate are the losers.


Well, since you, and the other Republican supporters here are crowing
about a Bush mandate, I guess that makes all of you losers then.

You can keep thinking that while Bush is president for another four years.
.
User: "David Fritzinger"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 09 Nov 2004 03:20:43 PM
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<1100006422.CrmOAMQOUpy9MAU5afUA3g@bubbanews>...

David Fritzinger <dfritzin@macNoSpam.com> wrote in
news:dfritzin-6AA74C.19075008112004@orngca-news02.socal.rr.com:

In article <1099968309.iIA4ZYFDyAgbPxTsceU/JA@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

dfritzin@hotmail.com (David Fritzinger) wrote in
news:b82925bb.0411081609.27e1f3ff@posting.google.com:

Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:<1099934024.edJ2U0WoEslz8LMo7z+yLA@bubbanews>...

David Fritzinger <dfritzinnospam@mac.com> wrote in
news:dfritzinnospam-2F83E2.19011207112004@orngca-news04.socal.rr.com:

In article <1099873469./VjIU0+SsWk3ibnSqDitGQ@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

forge <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in
news:forge-D0C378.13061306112004@comcast.dca.giganews.com:

In article <1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

Wasn't enough to make up for the massive margin Bush had over
Kerry.


It wasn't that big and it's dwindling every day now that results
are coming in like the one in Ohio where 638 people voted for
Bush 4258 times.


Looks like it's still 3.5 million.


You do realize that Bush's lead is the smallest of any re-elected
president since Woodrow Wilson, don't you? So much for your
mandate...


After losing the popular vote last time, Bush won the popular vote
and the election, despite a record turnout which traditionally
favors Democrats, and as well as making gains in both the House and
the Senate. You can whine all you want about how Bush "doesn't have
a mandate" but he sure as hell is going to govern like he has one
whether you think he has a mandate or not.


You do realize that you failed to address my point at all, don't you?
Don't you?

Oh, I forgot. I was talking to Snubie, who can barely read...

And, another thing. Of course I expect him to govern as if he had a
real mandate. Hell, he did the same in his first term, when he
certainly had no mandate.


It seems the only people who tend to care about mandate are the losers.


Well, since you, and the other Republican supporters here are crowing
about a Bush mandate, I guess that makes all of you losers then.


You can keep thinking that while Bush is president for another four years.

IOW, you cannot refute my argument...
--
Dave Fritzinger
.


User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 09 Nov 2004 04:17:47 AM
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 05:07:50 GMT, David Fritzinger
<dfritzin@macNoSpam.com> wrote:

You do realize that you failed to address my point at all, don't you?
Don't you?

Oh, I forgot. I was talking to Snubie, who can barely read...

And, another thing. Of course I expect him to govern as if he had a
real mandate. Hell, he did the same in his first term, when he
certainly had no mandate.


It seems the only people who tend to care about mandate are the losers.


Well, since you, and the other Republican supporters here are crowing
about a Bush mandate, I guess that makes all of you losers then. Now, in
your case, snubie, I know that to be true...

Remember you're dealing with people who imagine that popular vote
determines fact.
.


User: "JEDIDIAH"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 10 Nov 2004 12:34:11 AM
["Followup-To:" header set to alt.atheism.]
On 2004-11-09, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

dfritzin@hotmail.com (David Fritzinger) wrote in
news:b82925bb.0411081609.27e1f3ff@posting.google.com:

Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:<1099934024.edJ2U0WoEslz8LMo7z+yLA@bubbanews>...

David Fritzinger <dfritzinnospam@mac.com> wrote in
news:dfritzinnospam-2F83E2.19011207112004@orngca-news04.socal.rr.com:

In article <1099873469./VjIU0+SsWk3ibnSqDitGQ@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

forge <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in
news:forge-D0C378.13061306112004@comcast.dca.giganews.com:

In article <1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

[deletia]

You do realize that you failed to address my point at all, don't you?
Don't you?

Oh, I forgot. I was talking to Snubie, who can barely read...

And, another thing. Of course I expect him to govern as if he had a
real mandate. Hell, he did the same in his first term, when he
certainly had no mandate.


It seems the only people who tend to care about mandate are the losers.

No, the rest of us just don't like being told by our allegedly elected
executive to essentially f*ck off. We continue to have a president that revels
in divisiveness. When comtemplating morality and values, middle america should
contemplate what a sore winner Bush has been both times.
--
AV is a bandaid over a bulletwound.
|||
Linux posesses no such bulletwounds. / | \

.
User: "Fester"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 10 Nov 2004 04:27:53 AM
"JEDIDIAH" <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote in message
news:slrncp3dio.qd9.jedi@nomad.mishnet...

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.atheism.]
On 2004-11-09, Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

dfritzin@hotmail.com (David Fritzinger) wrote in
news:b82925bb.0411081609.27e1f3ff@posting.google.com:

Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:<1099934024.edJ2U0WoEslz8LMo7z+yLA@bubbanews>...

David Fritzinger <dfritzinnospam@mac.com> wrote in
news:dfritzinnospam-2F83E2.19011207112004@orngca-news04.socal.rr.com:

In article <1099873469./VjIU0+SsWk3ibnSqDitGQ@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

forge <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in
news:forge-D0C378.13061306112004@comcast.dca.giganews.com:

In article <1099675543.yctjfEs7WE78BGCxOfziqw@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:

[deletia]

You do realize that you failed to address my point at all, don't you?
Don't you?

Oh, I forgot. I was talking to Snubie, who can barely read...

And, another thing. Of course I expect him to govern as if he had a
real mandate. Hell, he did the same in his first term, when he
certainly had no mandate.


It seems the only people who tend to care about mandate are the losers.


No, the rest of us just don't like being told by our allegedly elected
executive to essentially f*ck off.

Of course you don't like it. So what?

We continue to have a president that revels
in divisiveness. When comtemplating morality and values, middle america
should
contemplate what a sore winner Bush has been both times.

Bush ran on a platform. The people voted for that platform. If he were to
pursue policies that were very different philisophically from what he said
he would do would be a betrayal of the trust given him. I have a much
larger difference with those pols who run on a platform and don't try to
implement their campaign promises.
.









User: "Jeffrey Scott Linder"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 05 Nov 2004 12:33:08 PM
"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:


"Egbert Sousè" <egbertsouse@WCF.com> wrote in message
news:srano0l7osd7pk18leq5k6qcpuf5h6i58t@4ax.com...

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:19:48 -0600, "ouroboros rex"
<c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:


"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:1099671120.olg/oy8HSxBAuLMVh5arFw@bubbanews...

"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
news:cmg8r3$jf0$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:

1. Put the Fairness Doctrine back in place over the US media, and
repeal the telecommunications act of 1996.

2. Bury Fox News, FrontPageMag, Weekly Standard, Newsmax, Drudge, and
any other news outlet caught routinely promoting verifiable lies.
Legal
action, boycotts, movie documentaries, whatever it takes.

3. Begin massive nationally organized protests aimed at bringing
Washington DC to a week-long standstill any time another radical
religious kook is being voted on in Congress.

4. Begin massive projects to drag the skeletons out of the closets of
the wackjob GOP operatives put in place by the Bush junta. To copy the
republicans, add exposure and harrassment of their families.

5. Outlaw, ban, or destroy all electronic voting machines without
verifiable, machine-countable paper reciepts - illegally if necessary,
this is America we are fighting for.

6. Sign petitions indicating your readiness to defend your female
family members from application of regressive abortion laws with deadly
force on your property.

7. Withdraw all funds from any financial institution shown to have
backed republicans over democrats in the last election.

8. Forever boycott all businesses that stumped, advertised, supported,
or otherwise advocated for the republican party.

9. Forever boycott all advertisers for TV stations that air
anti-democratic propaganda.

10. Remove yourself and your family from any house of worship that
supported the republican agenda this year. If you can get hardship
money out of them first, go for it.


So, essentially your plan to get Democrats back in power is to suppress
free speech and throw massive temper tantrums. You know, this is the
reason
why the Democrats are *losing* elections.


We'll see.

You saw. There are none so blind as those who will not see.


I saw poor black Ohioans waiting in line to vote at 3am with their kids in
tow thanks to republican cutpurse Kenneth Blackwell's year-long campaign to
steal the Ohio vote. That's what I saw.

You're lying.

beg for quarter all you want, next election we democrats will run it
republican-style.

Good luck
JSL
.
User: "ouroboros rex"

Title: Re: 10 Helpful Hints for the Democratic Party 05 Nov 2004 12:59:43 PM
"Jeffrey Scott Linder" <linder.one@osu.edu> wrote in message
news:418bc73d.239185812@nntp.service.ohio-state.edu...

"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:


"Egbert Sousè" <egbertsouse@WCF.com> wrote in message
news:srano0l7osd7pk18leq5k6qcpuf5h6i58t@4ax.com...

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 10:19:48 -0600, "ouroboros rex"
<c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:


"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:1099671120.olg/oy8HSxBAuLMVh5arFw@bubbanews...

"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
news:cmg8r3$jf0$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:

1. Put the Fairness Doctrine back in place over the US media, and
repeal the telecommunications act of 1996.

2. Bury Fox News, FrontPageMag, Weekly Standard, Newsmax, Drudge,
and
any other news outlet caught routinely promoting verifiable lies.
Legal
action, boycotts, movie documentaries, whatever it takes.

3. Begin massive nationally organized protests aimed at bringing
Washington DC to a week-long standstill any time another radical
religious kook is being voted on in Congress.

4. Begin massive projects to drag the skeletons out of the closets
of
the wackjob GOP operatives put in place by the Bush junta. To copy
the
republicans, add exposure and harrassment of their families.

5. Outlaw, ban, or destroy all electronic voting machines without
verifiable, machine-countable paper reciepts - illegally if
necessary,
this is America we are fighting for.

6. Sign petitions indicating your readiness to defend your female
family members from application of regressive abortion laws with
deadly
force on your property.

7. Withdraw all funds from any financial institution shown to have
backed republicans over democrats in the last election.

8. Forever boycott all businesses that stumped, advertised,
supported,
or otherwise advocated for the republican party.

9. Forever boycott all advertisers for TV stations that air
anti-democratic propaganda.

10. Remove yourself and your family from any house of worship that
supported the republican agenda this year. If you can get hardship
money out of them first, go for it.


So, essentially your plan to get Democrats back in power is to
suppress
free speech and throw massive temper tantrums. You know, this is the
reason
why the Democrats are *losing* elections.


We'll see.

You saw. There are none so blind as those who will not see.


I saw poor black Ohioans waiting in line to vote at 3am with their kids
in
tow thanks to republican cutpurse Kenneth Blackwell's year-long campaign
to
steal the Ohio vote. That's what I saw.


You're lying.

Big words, no proof.


beg for quarter all you want, next election we democrats will run it
republican-style.


Good luck

JSL

.








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