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Religions > Atheism |
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"Michelle Malkin" |
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06 Apr 2006 09:06:41 PM |
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10 Signs That You Are A Christian |
From AACHAT:
Top ten signs you are a Christian
10- You vigorously deny the existence of
thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but
feel outraged when someone denies the existence
of your god.
9- You feel insulted and 'dehumanized' when
scientists say that people evolved from lesser life
forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical
claim that we were created from dirt.
8- You laugh at polytheists, but you have no
problem believing in a Trinity god.
7- Your face turns purple when you hear of the
'atrocities'attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah
slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in 'Exodus'
and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic
groups in 'Joshua'- including women, children,
and animals!
6- You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans,
and Greek claims about god sleeping with women,
but you have no problem believing that the Holy
Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to
a man-god who got killed, came back to life and
then ascended into the sky.
5- You are willing to spend your life looking for
little loop-holes in the scientifically established
age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find
nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by
pre-historic tribesmen sifting in their tents and
guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations
old.
4- You believe that the entire population of this
planet with the exception of those who share your
beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -
will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering.
And yet you consider your religion the most
'tolerant' and 'loving'.
3- While modern science, history, geology, biology,
and physics have failed to convince you otherwise,
some idiot rolling around on the flood speaking in
'tongues' may be all the evidence you need.
2- You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when
it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to
be evidence that prayer works. And you think that
the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will
of God.
I- You actually know a lot less than many Atheists
and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and
church history - but still call yourself a "Christian."
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: 10 Signs That You Are A Christian |
07 Apr 2006 01:08:18 AM |
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In article <J5qdnWVCyPagVKjZRVn-tg@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
From AACHAT:
Top ten signs you are a Christian
10- You vigorously deny the existence of
thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but
feel outraged when someone denies the existence
of your god.
9- You feel insulted and 'dehumanized' when
scientists say that people evolved from lesser life
forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical
claim that we were created from dirt.
8- You laugh at polytheists, but you have no
problem believing in a Trinity god.
7- Your face turns purple when you hear of the
'atrocities'attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah
slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in 'Exodus'
and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic
groups in 'Joshua'- including women, children,
and animals!
6- You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans,
and Greek claims about god sleeping with women,
but you have no problem believing that the Holy
Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to
a man-god who got killed, came back to life and
then ascended into the sky.
5- You are willing to spend your life looking for
little loop-holes in the scientifically established
age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find
nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by
pre-historic tribesmen sifting in their tents and
guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations
old.
4- You believe that the entire population of this
planet with the exception of those who share your
beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -
will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering.
And yet you consider your religion the most
'tolerant' and 'loving'.
3- While modern science, history, geology, biology,
and physics have failed to convince you otherwise,
some idiot rolling around on the flood speaking in
'tongues' may be all the evidence you need.
2- You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when
it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to
be evidence that prayer works. And you think that
the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will
of God.
I- You actually know a lot less than many Atheists
and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and
church history - but still call yourself a "Christian."
Very good! I think that they have them all covered. I would add:
11- You believe that if you do everything the religious tell you to do,
and because of it lead a miserable life, when you die, you will go to a
place that no one has ever seen, for which no evidence exists, and
receive a reward of some sort of another. No one, however, can tell you
quite what it is.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Benny Hinns bastard son" |
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| Title: Re: 10 Signs That You Are A Christian |
07 Apr 2006 07:03:48 AM |
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On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 23:08:18 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <J5qdnWVCyPagVKjZRVn-tg@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
From AACHAT:
Top ten signs you are a Christian
10- You vigorously deny the existence of
thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but
feel outraged when someone denies the existence
of your god.
9- You feel insulted and 'dehumanized' when
scientists say that people evolved from lesser life
forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical
claim that we were created from dirt.
8- You laugh at polytheists, but you have no
problem believing in a Trinity god.
7- Your face turns purple when you hear of the
'atrocities'attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah
slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in 'Exodus'
and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic
groups in 'Joshua'- including women, children,
and animals!
6- You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans,
and Greek claims about god sleeping with women,
but you have no problem believing that the Holy
Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to
a man-god who got killed, came back to life and
then ascended into the sky.
5- You are willing to spend your life looking for
little loop-holes in the scientifically established
age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find
nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by
pre-historic tribesmen sifting in their tents and
guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations
old.
4- You believe that the entire population of this
planet with the exception of those who share your
beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -
will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering.
And yet you consider your religion the most
'tolerant' and 'loving'.
3- While modern science, history, geology, biology,
and physics have failed to convince you otherwise,
some idiot rolling around on the flood speaking in
'tongues' may be all the evidence you need.
2- You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when
it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to
be evidence that prayer works. And you think that
the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will
of God.
I- You actually know a lot less than many Atheists
and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and
church history - but still call yourself a "Christian."
Very good! I think that they have them all covered. I would add:
11- You believe that if you do everything the religious tell you to do,
and because of it lead a miserable life, when you die, you will go to a
place that no one has ever seen, for which no evidence exists, and
receive a reward of some sort of another. No one, however, can tell you
quite what it is.
Sounds like this guy has been there:
http://ad2004.com/prophecytruths/Articles/Heaven/heaven.html
I don't know how they come up with this stuff...
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: 10 Signs That You Are A Christian |
08 Apr 2006 12:42:45 AM |
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In article <95lc32h05b3a5c0ndoi19uu8uqjca38pmo@4ax.com>,
Benny Hinn's ***** son <BastardSon@bennyhinn.org> wrote:
On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 23:08:18 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <J5qdnWVCyPagVKjZRVn-tg@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
From AACHAT:
Top ten signs you are a Christian
10- You vigorously deny the existence of
thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but
feel outraged when someone denies the existence
of your god.
9- You feel insulted and 'dehumanized' when
scientists say that people evolved from lesser life
forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical
claim that we were created from dirt.
8- You laugh at polytheists, but you have no
problem believing in a Trinity god.
7- Your face turns purple when you hear of the
'atrocities'attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah
slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in 'Exodus'
and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic
groups in 'Joshua'- including women, children,
and animals!
6- You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans,
and Greek claims about god sleeping with women,
but you have no problem believing that the Holy
Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to
a man-god who got killed, came back to life and
then ascended into the sky.
5- You are willing to spend your life looking for
little loop-holes in the scientifically established
age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find
nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by
pre-historic tribesmen sifting in their tents and
guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations
old.
4- You believe that the entire population of this
planet with the exception of those who share your
beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -
will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering.
And yet you consider your religion the most
'tolerant' and 'loving'.
3- While modern science, history, geology, biology,
and physics have failed to convince you otherwise,
some idiot rolling around on the flood speaking in
'tongues' may be all the evidence you need.
2- You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when
it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to
be evidence that prayer works. And you think that
the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will
of God.
I- You actually know a lot less than many Atheists
and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and
church history - but still call yourself a "Christian."
Very good! I think that they have them all covered. I would add:
11- You believe that if you do everything the religious tell you to do,
and because of it lead a miserable life, when you die, you will go to a
place that no one has ever seen, for which no evidence exists, and
receive a reward of some sort of another. No one, however, can tell you
quite what it is.
Sounds like this guy has been there:
http://ad2004.com/prophecytruths/Articles/Heaven/heaven.html
I don't know how they come up with this stuff...
Brown acid? The wrong 'shrooms?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "" |
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| Title: 10 Signs That You Are A ***** And An Idiot |
10 Apr 2006 09:33:31 PM |
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Michelle Malkin wrote:
From AACHAT:
Top ten signs you are a Christian
10- You vigorously deny the existence of
thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but
feel outraged when someone denies the existence
of your god.
There is no God but God
9- You feel insulted and 'dehumanized' when
scientists say that people evolved from lesser life
forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical
claim that we were created from dirt.
Why should we?
8- You laugh at polytheists, but you have no
problem believing in a Trinity god.
You don't know that Trinity is a Greeco-Roman Catholicism dogma and
not neccessary a Christian dogma as Islam which is a semitic version
of Christianity know nothing about trinity and indeed rebutted it long
ago.
You would object on the basis that Islam began in the 7th century
because not knowing
that Mohammad, Qur'an and Islam are words which may have been
created in the 7th century, but the reality behind these words Christ,
Law/Torah and
Christianity can be traced all way back to first century.
YOU ARE A ***** AND A DAUGHTER OF A *****
7- Your face turns purple when you hear of the
'atrocities'attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah
slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in 'Exodus'
and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic
groups in 'Joshua'- including women, children,
and animals!
Allah means God, IDIOT
6- You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans,
and Greek claims about god sleeping with women,
but you have no problem believing that the Holy
Mary never slept with the Holy Spirit
Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to
a man-god who got killed, came back to life and
then ascended into the sky.
5- You are willing to spend your life looking for
little loop-holes in the scientifically established
age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find
nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by
pre-historic tribesmen sifting in their tents and
Those tribemen were assisted and wiser than you
guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations
old.
4- You believe that the entire population of this
planet with the exception of those who share your
beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -
will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering.
And yet you consider your religion the most
'tolerant' and 'loving'.
There is no discrepancy. You can't have it both way.
You can have your way here and now but not in the world to come.
This has nothing to do with God and his love for mankind
3- While modern science, history, geology, biology,
and physics have failed to convince you otherwise,
some idiot rolling around on the flood speaking in
'tongues' may be all the evidence you need.
2- You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when
it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to
be evidence that prayer works. And you think that
the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will
of God.
And you think that it was your will?
I- You actually know a lot less than many Atheists
and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and
church history - but still call yourself a "Christian."
What do you know about Church History?
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: 10 Signs That You Are A ***** And An Idiot |
10 Apr 2006 11:57:45 PM |
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"codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
Allah means God, IDIOT
So pass a law saying that one month out of every year
school children must pledge allience to the flag, "under
Allah."
See how far you get with that one.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: 10 Signs That You Are A ***** And An Idiot |
11 Apr 2006 01:27:11 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 00:57:45 -0400, "JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1PqdnadnaKbeqabZRVn-tQ@comcast.com>
"codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
Allah means God, IDIOT
So pass a law saying that one month out of every year
school children must pledge allience to the flag, "under
Allah."
See how far you get with that one.
He said:
"Allah" = "God, IDIOT"
--
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| User: "Sanitys little helper" |
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11 Apr 2006 04:42:19 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:57:11 +0930, Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 00:57:45 -0400, "JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1PqdnadnaKbeqabZRVn-tQ@comcast.com>
"codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
Allah means God, IDIOT
So pass a law saying that one month out of every year
school children must pledge allience to the flag, "under
Allah."
See how far you get with that one.
He said:
"Allah" = "God, IDIOT"
Has a kind of ring to it: "under God, IDIOT".
--
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208, HB #6
Song for Raytard (you all know the tune)
Did you ever know that, you¢re my zero?
And everything I¢m glad I¢m not?
I can spend hours upon the toilet
You are the wind between my cheeks.
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| User: "ZenIsWhen" |
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10 Apr 2006 10:04:44 PM |
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"codebreaker@bigsecret.com" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1144720823.773771.316110@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Michelle Malkin wrote:
From AACHAT:
Top ten signs you are a Christian
10- You vigorously deny the existence of
thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but
feel outraged when someone denies the existence
of your god.
There is no God but God
No evidence to support that claim more than any other god(s) claiam.
9- You feel insulted and 'dehumanized' when
scientists say that people evolved from lesser life
forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical
claim that we were created from dirt.
Why should we?
Because it's a belief, NOT science, and has no facts or evidence to support
it.
8- You laugh at polytheists, but you have no
problem believing in a Trinity god.
You don't know that Trinity is a Greeco-Roman Catholicism dogma and
not neccessary a Christian dogma as Islam which is a semitic version
of Christianity know nothing about trinity and indeed rebutted it long
ago.
You would object on the basis that Islam began in the 7th century
because not knowing
that Mohammad, Qur'an and Islam are words which may have been
created in the 7th century, but the reality behind these words Christ,
Law/Torah and
Christianity can be traced all way back to first century.
YOU ARE A ***** AND A DAUGHTER OF A *****
and other religions, much further back.
"Tracability" and age have nothing to do with validity.
7- Your face turns purple when you hear of the
'atrocities'attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah
slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in 'Exodus'
and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic
groups in 'Joshua'- including women, children,
and animals!
Allah means God, IDIOT
Christians worship Allah?
Why did you avoid answering the important part of the claim?
6- You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans,
and Greek claims about god sleeping with women,
but you have no problem believing that the Holy
Mary never slept with the Holy Spirit
That's the nice thing about fairy tales and ancient fables - you can twist
and warp them any way you want.
Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to
a man-god who got killed, came back to life and
then ascended into the sky.
5- You are willing to spend your life looking for
little loop-holes in the scientifically established
age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find
nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by
pre-historic tribesmen sifting in their tents and
Those tribemen were assisted and wiser than you
Evidence??
Of course not.
guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations
old.
4- You believe that the entire population of this
planet with the exception of those who share your
beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -
will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering.
And yet you consider your religion the most
'tolerant' and 'loving'.
There is no discrepancy. You can't have it both way.
You can have your way here and now but not in the world to come.
This has nothing to do with God and his love for mankind
What god? Where's the evidence that this god even exists?
Where's the evidence that you claims of "Excusivity" to the one and only
REAL god are true?
3- While modern science, history, geology, biology,
and physics have failed to convince you otherwise,
some idiot rolling around on the flood speaking in
'tongues' may be all the evidence you need.
2- You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when
it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to
be evidence that prayer works. And you think that
the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will
of God.
And you think that it was your will?
???????????????????
Blatant dodge from the issue.
I- You actually know a lot less than many Atheists
and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and
church history - but still call yourself a "Christian."
What do you know about Church History?
Troll answer.
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| User: "Midjis" |
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11 Apr 2006 08:05:19 AM |
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wrote:
10- You vigorously deny the existence of
thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but
feel outraged when someone denies the existence
of your god.
There is no God but God
The Bible does not say so.
9- You feel insulted and 'dehumanized' when
scientists say that people evolved from lesser life
forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical
claim that we were created from dirt.
Why should we?
Because it is a preposterous notion that depends on magic for its
explanation. That is why you should. That you do not is testament to
your pious gullibility.
8- You laugh at polytheists, but you have no
problem believing in a Trinity god.
You don't know that Trinity is a Greeco-Roman Catholicism dogma
If the cap fits, wear it. If you believe it does not, then explain why
you worship Jesus instead of the Creator God.
YOU ARE A ***** AND A DAUGHTER OF A *****
Ah, the true colours of the fundamentalist.
7- Your face turns purple when you hear of the
'atrocities'attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah
slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in 'Exodus'
and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic
groups in 'Joshua'- including women, children,
and animals!
Allah means God, IDIOT
It does indeed. Which leads one to wonder quite why Christianity and
Islam simply cannot seem to live together without squabbling. And why so
many Christians here condemn Muslims and Jews as being fated to Hell.
A little bit of advice for those Christians: Allah means God, IDIOT.
6- You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans,
and Greek claims about god sleeping with women,
but you have no problem believing that the Holy
Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to
a man-god who got killed, came back to life and
then ascended into the sky.
Mary never slept with the Holy Spirit
No - she did not get the opportunity, or the choice. She was just a
'vessel' to be used. It was her role to play. The same role that has
appeared in ancient traditions far predating Christianity.
5- You are willing to spend your life looking for
little loop-holes in the scientifically established
age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find
nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by
pre-historic tribesmen sifting in their tents and
guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations
old.
Those tribemen were assisted and wiser than you
Well, that puts paid to THAT argument, then. Now that you have told us
that those tribesmen were wiser than us, we have no excuse but to
believe.
Assisted? By the God you claim is real because you claim it?
4- You believe that the entire population of this
planet with the exception of those who share your
beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -
will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering.
And yet you consider your religion the most
'tolerant' and 'loving'.
There is no discrepancy. You can't have it both way.
You can have your way here and now but not in the world to come.
This has nothing to do with God and his love for mankind
Of course it does. God created this world and the world beyond, we are
told. Therefore, He is responsible for everything in it. He created us,
we are told, therefore He is responsible for everything we do. Some
fundamentalists try to squirm out of this one by arguing that a parent
cannot directly control their child - are you going to retreat to this
fallacy, or can you do better?
3- While modern science, history, geology, biology,
and physics have failed to convince you otherwise,
some idiot rolling around on the flood speaking in
'tongues' may be all the evidence you need.
2- You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when
it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to
be evidence that prayer works. And you think that
the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will
of God.
And you think that it was your will?
An idiotic attempt at reversal. Nobody claimed here that anyone is
willing prayers to fail, but if you cannot refute what is said, make up
something that was not.
The fact is simply that they do not work, and when they appear to work it
is most likely down to chance. Indeed, if 0.01% is the true figure it is
actually LOWER than I would have expected from chance alone. I wonder if
God is in fact working AGAINST those who pray to Him?
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| User: "" |
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11 Apr 2006 06:00:32 PM |
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Midjis wrote:
codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:
10- You vigorously deny the existence of
thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but
feel outraged when someone denies the existence
of your god.
There is no God but God
The Bible does not say so.
Hear O Israel, Eternal your God is One. Moses'word reported in
Deuteronomy
The second Law
9- You feel insulted and 'dehumanized' when
scientists say that people evolved from lesser life
forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical
claim that we were created from dirt.
Why should we?
Because it is a preposterous notion that depends on magic for its
explanation. That is why you should. That you do not is testament to
your pious gullibility.
8- You laugh at polytheists, but you have no
problem believing in a Trinity god.
You don't know that Trinity is a Greeco-Roman Catholicism dogma
If the cap fits, wear it. If you believe it does not, then explain why
you worship Jesus instead of the Creator God.
YOU ARE A ***** AND A DAUGHTER OF A *****
Ah, the true colours of the fundamentalist.
7- Your face turns purple when you hear of the
'atrocities'attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah
slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in 'Exodus'
and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic
groups in 'Joshua'- including women, children,
and animals!
Allah means God, IDIOT
It does indeed. Which leads one to wonder quite why Christianity and
Islam simply cannot seem to live together without squabbling. And why so
many Christians here condemn Muslims and Jews as being fated to Hell.
A little bit of advice for those Christians: Allah means God, IDIOT.
6- You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans,
and Greek claims about god sleeping with women,
but you have no problem believing that the Holy
Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to
a man-god who got killed, came back to life and
then ascended into the sky.
Mary never slept with the Holy Spirit
No - she did not get the opportunity, or the choice. She was just a
'vessel' to be used. It was her role to play. The same role that has
appeared in ancient traditions far predating Christianity.
5- You are willing to spend your life looking for
little loop-holes in the scientifically established
age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find
nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by
pre-historic tribesmen sifting in their tents and
guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations
old.
Those tribemen were assisted and wiser than you
Well, that puts paid to THAT argument, then. Now that you have told us
that those tribesmen were wiser than us, we have no excuse but to
believe.
Assisted? By the God you claim is real because you claim it?
4- You believe that the entire population of this
planet with the exception of those who share your
beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -
will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering.
And yet you consider your religion the most
'tolerant' and 'loving'.
There is no discrepancy. You can't have it both way.
You can have your way here and now but not in the world to come.
This has nothing to do with God and his love for mankind
Of course it does. God created this world and the world beyond, we are
told. Therefore, He is responsible for everything in it. He created us,
we are told, therefore He is responsible for everything we do. Some
fundamentalists try to squirm out of this one by arguing that a parent
cannot directly control their child - are you going to retreat to this
fallacy, or can you do better?
3- While modern science, history, geology, biology,
and physics have failed to convince you otherwise,
some idiot rolling around on the flood speaking in
'tongues' may be all the evidence you need.
2- You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when
it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to
be evidence that prayer works. And you think that
the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will
of God.
And you think that it was your will?
An idiotic attempt at reversal. Nobody claimed here that anyone is
willing prayers to fail, but if you cannot refute what is said, make up
something that was not.
The fact is simply that they do not work, and when they appear to work it
is most likely down to chance. Indeed, if 0.01% is the true figure it is
actually LOWER than I would have expected from chance alone. I wonder if
God is in fact working AGAINST those who pray to Him?
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| User: "Jeff White" |
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11 Apr 2006 07:07:26 PM |
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"codebreaker@bigsecret.com" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
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Midjis wrote:
codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:
10- You vigorously deny the existence of
thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but
feel outraged when someone denies the existence
of your god.
There is no God but God
The Bible does not say so.
Hear O Israel, Eternal your God is One. Moses'word reported in
Deuteronomy
The second Law
ok so that covers israel. what covers not-israel?
oh wait why am i even asking about this, when all of us [sane people] know
it's *****?
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| User: "Midjis" |
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12 Apr 2006 04:15:14 AM |
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wrote:
There is no God but God
The Bible does not say so.
Hear O Israel, Eternal your God is One. Moses'word reported in
Deuteronomy
The second Law
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me." - Exodus 20:3
"Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD
thy God am a jealous God" - Exodus 20:5
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| User: "Jeff White" |
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12 Apr 2006 03:45:55 PM |
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"Midjis" <midwinter_m@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:
There is no God but God
The Bible does not say so.
Hear O Israel, Eternal your God is One. Moses'word reported in
Deuteronomy
The second Law
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me." - Exodus 20:3
sounds like every other theistic religion
"Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD
thy God am a jealous God" - Exodus 20:5
ditto. ok so abrahamism demands exclusivity; what about this makes it
different from every other god based faith?
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| User: "John Baker" |
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11 Apr 2006 04:49:48 AM |
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On 10 Apr 2006 19:33:31 -0700, "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:
And you display all ten of them.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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10 Apr 2006 11:00:23 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "codebreaker@bigsecret.com"
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> posting the following on 10 Apr 2006
19:33:31 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
Michelle Malkin wrote:
From AACHAT:
Top ten signs you are a Christian
10- You vigorously deny the existence of
thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but
feel outraged when someone denies the existence
of your god.
There is no God but God
Prove it. The Bible itself makes references to there being other
gods.
9- You feel insulted and 'dehumanized' when
scientists say that people evolved from lesser life
forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical
claim that we were created from dirt.
Why should we?
Because it is a silly myth, with no scientific support.
8- You laugh at polytheists, but you have no
problem believing in a Trinity god.
You don't know that Trinity is a Greeco-Roman Catholicism dogma and
not neccessary a Christian dogma as Islam which is a semitic version
of Christianity know nothing about trinity and indeed rebutted it long
ago.
You would object on the basis that Islam began in the 7th century
because not knowing
that Mohammad, Qur'an and Islam are words which may have been
created in the 7th century, but the reality behind these words Christ,
Law/Torah and
Christianity can be traced all way back to first century.
Science goes back farther than that.
YOU ARE A ***** AND A DAUGHTER OF A *****
Yawn.
7- Your face turns purple when you hear of the
'atrocities'attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah
slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in 'Exodus'
and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic
groups in 'Joshua'- including women, children,
and animals!
Allah means God, IDIOT
In context, it refers to Islam's veiw of the divine.
6- You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans,
and Greek claims about god sleeping with women,
but you have no problem believing that the Holy
Mary never slept with the Holy Spirit
Sure she did!
Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to
a man-god who got killed, came back to life and
then ascended into the sky.
And he brings presents every December 25th to all the good boys and..
oops. sorry, wrong myth.
5- You are willing to spend your life looking for
little loop-holes in the scientifically established
age of the Earth (4.55 billion years), but you find
nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by
pre-historic tribesmen sifting in their tents and
Those tribemen were assisted and wiser than you
Prove it.
guessing that the Earth is a couple of generations
old.
4- You believe that the entire population of this
planet with the exception of those who share your
beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects -
will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering.
And yet you consider your religion the most
'tolerant' and 'loving'.
There is no discrepancy. You can't have it both way.
You can have your way here and now but not in the world to come.
This has nothing to do with God and his love for mankind
Nice avoiding the point.
3- While modern science, history, geology, biology,
and physics have failed to convince you otherwise,
some idiot rolling around on the flood speaking in
'tongues' may be all the evidence you need.
2- You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when
it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to
be evidence that prayer works. And you think that
the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will
of God.
And you think that it was your will?
Absolutely, when it was something I was doing.
I- You actually know a lot less than many Atheists
and Agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and
church history - but still call yourself a "Christian."
What do you know about Church History?
More than you I'd wager.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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10 Apr 2006 09:42:26 PM |
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crapbreaker babbled:
10- You vigorously deny the existence of
thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but
feel outraged when someone denies the existence
of your god.
There is no God but God
We already know you're an idiot. But thanks anyway for yet another
confirmation.
What do you know about Church History?
Knowledge, crapbreaker, knowledge. Not dogma.
You know the difference, deny it all you want.
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
Why I am not a christian:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus/nojebus
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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06 Apr 2006 09:45:22 PM |
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Michelle Malkin wrote:
Top ten signs you are a Christian
Let's be fair and add a "fundie/literalist" in that line, after all, there
_are_ some christians who aren't such idiots. But aside from that... yup,
drives home the point damn well. ;)
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
Why I am not a christian:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus/nojebus
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| User: "Jeff White" |
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08 Apr 2006 01:11:50 AM |
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"Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" <MAILTOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in message
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Michelle Malkin wrote:
Top ten signs you are a Christian
Let's be fair and add a "fundie/literalist" in that line, after all, there
_are_ some christians who aren't such idiots. But aside from that... yup,
drives home the point damn well. ;)
uh, they believe a heaven fairy impregnated a virgin so the baby could be
nailed to a piece of wood so everybody could live in a garden and special
apples.
they're fucking STUPID!
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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08 Apr 2006 02:10:38 AM |
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Jeff White wrote:
uh, they believe a heaven fairy impregnated a virgin so the baby could be
nailed to a piece of wood so everybody could live in a garden and special
apples.
Or do they? ;)
For the sake of fairness I have to point out that, here in Germany at least,
most christians do _not_ believe in the literal truth of the virgin birth
et al. To them, the christian faith means taking Jesus as a role model...
in other words, to be kind and loving to one another (yes, there are other
things attributed to Jesus too, but you know what I mean ;) )... and
nothing else. If you ask the average German christian whether he really
believes that Mary gave birth as a virgin, the most likely answer you'll
get is a wide-eyed "My, no - that's obviously a legend!". Same goes for the
infamous "creation 6000 years ago" et cetera.
Of course, in... certain other countries... things are horribly different.
Namely the 4th reich of ameriKKKa, and on the muslim side of the fence,
Iran and others. Time to see someone with at least half a brain in his head
enter the White House again, and the corresponding centers of power of
those other countries too.
they're fucking STUPID!
Well, being stupid is not a crime in and of itself (although I admit I often
wish it was a crime...). If someone wants to believe in things that are,
logically, absurd, that's basically okay. To each his own.
The problem starts where people demand that everyone else believes in the
same myths too. Which is, in my opinion, what separates the willfully
braindead fundie morons from the majority of christians around my place.
Yes, I don't _like_ them in general, but as long as they "live and let
live", fine with me. They don't force me to enter their churches, I don't
force them to take part in the occasional blot I celebrate.
That's basically what I meant.
(And yes, you have a right to call me "stupid" too for my belief, although
at least it's not a dogmatic monotheistic one. As long as I harm none I
claim the right to my own little bit of stupidity for me :) )
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
Why I am not a christian:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus/nojebus
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| User: "Jeff White" |
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10 Apr 2006 02:43:21 PM |
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"Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" <MAILTOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote in message
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Jeff White wrote:
uh, they believe a heaven fairy impregnated a virgin so the baby could be
nailed to a piece of wood so everybody could live in a garden and special
apples.
Or do they? ;)
For the sake of fairness I have to point out that, here in Germany at
least,
most christians do _not_ believe in the literal truth of the virgin birth
et al. To them, the christian faith means taking Jesus as a role model...
in other words, to be kind and loving to one another (yes, there are other
things attributed to Jesus too, but you know what I mean ;) )... and
nothing else. If you ask the average German christian whether he really
believes that Mary gave birth as a virgin, the most likely answer you'll
get is a wide-eyed "My, no - that's obviously a legend!". Same goes for
the
infamous "creation 6000 years ago" et cetera.
Of course, in... certain other countries... things are horribly different.
Namely the 4th reich of ameriKKKa, and on the muslim side of the fence,
Iran and others. Time to see someone with at least half a brain in his
head
enter the White House again, and the corresponding centers of power of
those other countries too.
i should clarify my remarks by stating that i was referring to christian
literalists, fundamentalists, et. al.
they're fucking STUPID!
Well, being stupid is not a crime in and of itself (although I admit I
often
wish it was a crime...). If someone wants to believe in things that are,
logically, absurd, that's basically okay. To each his own.
The problem starts where people demand that everyone else believes in the
same myths too. Which is, in my opinion, what separates the willfully
braindead fundie morons from the majority of christians around my place.
Yes, I don't _like_ them in general, but as long as they "live and let
live", fine with me. They don't force me to enter their churches, I don't
force them to take part in the occasional blot I celebrate.
That's basically what I meant.
(And yes, you have a right to call me "stupid" too for my belief, although
at least it's not a dogmatic monotheistic one. As long as I harm none I
claim the right to my own little bit of stupidity for me :) )
as long as you don't swallow every line you're cast and learn to think
critically about... well about everything, then stupid would not be an
appropriate description
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
Why I am not a christian:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus/nojebus
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| User: "Wieland the Smith" |
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10 Apr 2006 03:34:16 PM |
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Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian wrote:
Or do they? ;)
For the sake of fairness I have to point out that, here in Germany at least,
most christians do _not_ believe in the literal truth of the virgin birth
et al. To them, the christian faith means taking Jesus as a role model...
in other words, to be kind and loving to one another (yes, there are other
things attributed to Jesus too, but you know what I mean ;) )... and
nothing else. If you ask the average German christian whether he really
believes that Mary gave birth as a virgin, the most likely answer you'll
get is a wide-eyed "My, no - that's obviously a legend!". Same goes for the
infamous "creation 6000 years ago" et cetera.
Sorry, not all of them, at least not in the part of Germany where I
live now.
I live in the southern Siegerland, in the Heller valley, also known as
"Freier Grund". Here we have lots of fundies, it probably devolped from
beeing "Reformed" via the Free Christian Churches to severe sectarian
fundamentalism (must be the German version of the "I'm holier than
thou" syndom). They split up in many sects.
But still many of them are very different from the US fundies. The boys
refuse to join the military, in politics they tend to be liberal, and
they are nice neighbors. However, some of them do share the protestant
ethic (aka greed).
Wieland the Smith; EAC: Herder of the Trolls
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| User: "duke" |
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07 Apr 2006 07:36:55 AM |
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On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 22:06:41 -0400, "Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
wrote:
From AACHAT:
Top ten signs you are a Christian
Thank God for that.
duke, American-American
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Pope Paul VI
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