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100 Bible prophecies explained:
10 fulfilled in 1900s
These 10 Bible prophecies were fulfilled in the early 1900s as millions of
Jews worldwide returned to their ancient homeland.
1. The people of Israel again would be a united people
Bible passage: Ezekiel 37:15-19
Written: between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled: since late 1800s
In Ezekiel 37:15-19, the prophet said that God would make the people of
Israel a united people again. During Ezekiel's time, the people of Israel
had already divided themselves into two separate kingdoms. And both kingdoms
had been conquered by foreign invasions, which resulted in many people being
exiled. The southern kingdom was called Judah and the northern kingdom kept
the name of Israel, although it was often referred to as Ephraim. This
prophecy began to be fulfilled in an important way during the late 1800s,
when leaders of the Zionist Movement began uniting exiled Jews around the
world for the common goal of creating a new and independent Israel. This
must have been quite a challenge because the Jews had been scattered to
countries on six continents, where they spoke different languages and lived
in different cultures. The Zionist Movement marked the first time in many
centuries that the Jews had been united in such a significant way.
Ezekiel 37:15-19
The word of the Lord came to me: "Son of man, take a stick of wood and write
on it, `Belonging to Judah and the Israelites associated with him.' Then
take another stick of wood, and write on it, `Ephraim's stick, belonging to
Joseph and all the house of Israel associated with him.'
Join them together into one stick so that they will become one in your
hand. When your countrymen ask you, `Won't you tell us what you mean by
this?' say to them, `This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am going to
take the stick of Joseph--which is in Ephraim's hand--and of the Israelite
tribes associated with him, and join it to Judah's stick, making them a
single stick of wood, and they will become one in my hand.'
2. Ezekiel said the Jews would return to Israel
Bible passage: Ezekiel 20:34
Written: between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled: late 1800s to today
In Ezekiel 20:34, the prophet said God would gather the people of Israel
from around the world and bring them home to Israel. The people of Israel
(today they are often called Jews) were forced out of their homeland in
ancient times by the Assyrians, Babylonians and Romans. But, during the late
1800s, Jews returned by the thousands to the Holy Land, which at that time
was controlled by the Ottoman Empire. During the early 1900s, Jews returned
by the tens of thousands when the land was controlled by the British. And
they returned by the hundreds of thousands after Israel had declared
statehood in 1948.
Ezekiel 20:34
I will bring you from the nations and gather you from the countries where
you have been scattered--with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and with
outpoured wrath.
3. Jeremiah said the Jews would buy back land
Bible passage: Jeremiah 32:44
Written: sometime from 626 to about 586 BC
Fulfilled: late 1800s, 1900s
In Jeremiah 32:44, the prophet delivered a promise of restoration, about
2600 years ago. At that time, Jews were being forced out of their homeland
by the invading Babylonians. Many were taken as captives to Babylon. But,
Jeremiah assured them that they would be able to return in the future and
buy land in their homeland. After the collapse of Babylon, many Jews
returned to Jerusalem and the surrounding area. They were forced into exile
again by the Romans in 135 AD (about 1970 years ago). During the last years
of the Ottoman Empire, which ruled over the land of Israel four 400 years,
ending in 1918, thousands of Jews returned to their ancient homeland and
bought parcels of land from absentee landlords who lived in cities such as
Beirut and Damascus. The Jews were forced out of their homeland twice, and
each time they returned in large numbers in fulfillment of Jeremiah's
prophecy.
Jeremiah 32:44
Fields will be bought for silver, and deeds will be signed, sealed and
witnessed in the territory of Benjamin, in the villages around Jerusalem, in
the towns of Judah and in the towns of the hill country, of the western
foothills and of the Negev, because I will restore their fortunes, declares
the Lord."
4. The people of Israel would be persecuted in many nations
Bible passage: Deuteronomy 28:65-67
Written: perhaps 1400 BC
Fulfilled: 1940s, 1930s, 135 AD, 721 BC, etc.
In Deuteronomy 28:65-67, the Bible said that the people of Israel would
be scattered among nations and persecuted. They were exiled and scattered
from their homeland in ancient times by the Assyrians, Babylonians and
Romans. The exiles were intensely persecuted in Europe and Russia during the
Crusades and Pogroms.
During the Holocaust of World War II, the Nazis killed about one-third of
the world's population of Jews. The Nazis called it "The Final Solution" and
their goal was to kill all Jews. Winston Churchill, a former prime minister
of England, said: "The Final Solution is probably the greatest, most
horrible crime ever committed in the whole history of the world."
During the mid-1900s, many Jews sought to relocate from Europe to the most
distant countries in the hopes of outrunning the expansion of Nazi Germany.
This led to new influxes of Jews to North and South America, Australia and
even China.
Many of the exiles chose to return to their ancient homeland to escape
persecution. But persecution followed. At that time, the land of Israel was
called Palestine. It was controlled by the British and a majority of people
living there were Arab, including the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who urged
Hitler to deal with the Palestine's Jews with "the same method that the
question is now being settled in the Axis countries. (Genocide)".
In 1948, the Jews declared independence for Israel. But the persecutions
didn't cease. Shortly after the re-establishment of sovereignty for Israel,
hundreds of thousands of Jews were forced out of the Arab nations in which
they had lived in exile for many centuries.
Deuteronomy 28:65-67
Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole
of your foot. There the Lord will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with
longing, and a despairing heart. You will live in constant suspense, filled
with dread both night and day, never sure of your life. In the morning you
will say, "If only it were evening!" and in the evening, "If only it were
morning!"--because of the terror that will fill your hearts and the sights
that your eyes will see.
5. Isaiah said God would preserve the Jews
Bible passage: Isaiah 66:22
Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC
Fulfilled: 1940s, 1930s, 135 AD, 721 BC, etc.
In Isaiah 66:22, the prophet said that the people of Israel would endure
and survive as a people, despite the persecutions they would face, as
foretold by other prophecies. Isaiah delivered this prophecy 2,700 years
ago. Since then, the people of Israel, who today are commonly called Jews,
have been massacred at various times by the thousands, by the hundreds of
thousands, and by the millions. In ancient times, the Assyrians virtually
erased from history 10 of 12 tribes of Israel. The Babylonians and Romans
exacted heavy damage on what was left of the people of Israel. The Nazis,
during World War II, sought to annihilate the entire Jewish race. Even so,
the Nazi empire was reduced to ashes shortly before the Jews reclaimed
Israel as a sovereign country in 1948. The Jews are still here. And the
empires that sought to destroy them are nothing more than pages in history
books.
Isaiah 66:22
"As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me,"
declares the Lord, "so will your name and descendants endure.
6. Israel would be rebuilt and resettled
Bible passage: Ezekiel 36:33-35
Written: between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled: 1900s
In Ezekiel 36:33-35, the prophet gave another prophecy about the
re-population and rebuilding of Israel's ruined cities. American author Mark
Twain described the land of Israel as being thoroughly desolate in the late
1800s. Since then, millions of Jews have returned to Israel and have been
rebuilding their ancient homeland. Some of the parched desert has been
converted into productive farmland. And Israel has undertaken one of the
world's largest reforestation programs. Israel's population was 10 times
larger in 1998 than it was in 1948.
Ezekiel 36:33-35
"`This is what the Sovereign Lord says: On the day I cleanse you from all
your sins, I will resettle your towns, and the ruins will be rebuilt. The
desolate land will be cultivated instead of lying desolate in the sight of
all who pass through it. They will say, "This land that was laid waste has
become like the garden of Eden; the cities that were lying in ruins,
desolate and destroyed, are now fortified and inhabited."
7. Isaiah foretold the restoration of Israel
Bible passage: Isaiah 35:1-2
Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC
Fulfilled: 1900s
In Isaiah 35:1-2, the prophet said that although Israel would become a
desolate land, its deserts would one day bloom again. This Bible verse
foreshadows the restoration of Israel that has been taking place since the
early 1900s. Millions of Jews have returned to their ancient homeland and
have innovated sophisticated farming techniques and extensive reforestation
programs to convert parched desert into productive farmland. More than 200
million trees have been planted in Israel since 1900, according to the
Jewish National Fund.
Isaiah 35:1-2
The desert and the parched land will be glad; the wilderness will rejoice
and blossom. Like the crocus, it will burst into bloom; it will rejoice
greatly and shout for joy. The glory of Lebanon will be given to it, the
splendor of Carmel and Sharon; they will see the glory of the Lord, the
splendor of our God.
8. Israel's land would again become fruitful
Bible passage: Zechariah 8:12
Written: between 520 and 518 BC
Fulfilled: 1900s
In Zechariah 8:12, the prophet said that God would allow Israel to become
a prosperous land again. Israel had been described as being a wasteland
between the time that the Jews had been forced out of their homeland by the
Romans (about 1900 years ago) and the time when the Jews began returning to
and restoring Israel during the 1900s. Although the restoration continues,
Israel is able to export food to many countries.
Zechariah 8:12
"The seed will grow well, the vine will yield its fruit, the ground will
produce its crops, and the heavens will drop their dew. I will give all
these things as an inheritance to the remnant of this people."
9. The people of Israel would live many days without a king
Bible passage: Hosea 3:4-5
Written: about 750 BC
Fulfilled: Being fulfilled since 70 AD
Hosea's prophecy, found in Hosea 3:4-5, foretells three important events:
1. The people of Israel would lose their sovereignty ("live many days
without a king or prince"). A Bible scholar, named John Gill, interprets
Hosea 3:4 as meaning that the people of Israel would endure a period of time
"Without any form of civil government ... being subject to the kings and
princes of other nations."
2. The people of Israel would lose their ability to worship in the manner in
which they were accustomed. (example: "without sacrifice ... without
ephod").
3. The people of Israel would return to the land of Israel and seek "David
their king." (The phrase, "David their king," is often understood to refer
the promised Messiah, who the prophets had said would be a descendant of
King David).
Each of these three things has happened twice. The first time was about 2600
years ago when the Babylonians invaded the Holy Land, deposed the king,
destroyed the city of Jerusalem, and the holy Temple, which was the center
of worship for the people of Israel.
The Babylonians also forced many Jews into exile. But, after the collapse of
the Babylonian empire, many eventually returned to their homeland and
rebuilt Jerusalem and the Temple. A few centuries later, the second Temple
had undergone a massive reconstruction, which was completed at about the
time of Jesus, which was about 2000 years ago.
From a Christian point of view, Jesus, who is described as being a
descendant of King David in the New Testament book of Matthew, is the
Messiah who was promised when Hosea spoke of "David their king."
This prophecy is now going through its second fulfillment. During the Roman
Empire era, the people of Israel had lost sovereignty over their homeland
for the second time, and they had lost their Temple for the second time,
when the Romans destroyed the city of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
Since the Roman era, the majority of Jews have lived in exile, in countries
around the world, where they are subject to the kings and governments of
other nations. And, because the Temple has not yet been rebuilt, they
continue to be unable to perform various sacred practices that are important
to Judaism. (Judaism is the Jewish religion).
But some of this hardship began to change in an important way during the
first half of the 1900s, when many Jews from around the world returned to
the land of Israel and reclaimed independence over a portion of their
ancient homeland. In the year 2004, about one-third of the world's Jewish
population lives in Israel, a nation that has been governed by Jews since
1948.
From a Christian perspective, this too is significant because we Christians
believe that Jesus is to return a second time, after a significant number of
Jews have returned to Israel, to establish a kingdom of righteousness on
earth. From a Christian point of view, this prophecy will be completed -
again - during the "last days" when Jesus returns.
Hosea 3:4-5
For the Israelites will live many days without king or prince, without
sacrifice or sacred stones, without ephod or idol. Afterward the Israelites
will return and seek the LORD their God and David their king. They will come
trembling to the LORD and to his blessings in the last days.
10. Israel would rise again
Bible passage: Micah 7:8-11
Written: sometime between 750-686 BC
Fulfilled: beginning late 1800s
In Micah 7:8-11, the prophet said that Israel would one day rise again.
During Micah's lifetime about 2700 years ago, the Assyrians were destroying
the northern kingdom of Israel. Later, the Babylonians conquered the
southern kingdom of Judah. And then, the Romans brought more devastation to
Judah. That led to many centuries of exile for the Jews. However, during the
past two centuries, many Jews from around the world have returned to their
ancient homeland and have reclaimed sovereignty for a portion of the
original land of Israel. The declaration of independence in 1948 led to
three major wars with the surrounding countries. Each time, tiny Israel
prevailed and was able to seize additional land.
Micah 7:8-11
Do not gloat over me, my enemy! Though I have fallen, I will rise. Though I
sit in darkness, the Lord will be my light. Because I have sinned against
him, I will bear the Lord's wrath, until he pleads my case and establishes
my right. He will bring me out into the light; I will see his righteousness.
Then my enemy will see it and will be covered with shame, she who said to
me, "Where is the Lord your God?" My eyes will see her downfall; even now
she will be trampled underfoot like mire in the streets. The day for
building your walls will come, the day for extending your boundaries.
Notes: Bible verses are from the New International Version (NIV)
translation.
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
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100 Bible prophecies explained:
Here, let me simplify this.
"100 Bible prophecies explained: They're all *****. Every last one of
them."
There you go. Took a lot less than the 295 lines your sorry ***** posted.
No need to thank me.
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Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"You should realize Usenet is a strange reality where you see people
beating up a patch of grass where nine years ago there used to be a
horse. " 01 July 2003, talk.origins
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
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Notes: Bible verses are from the New International Version (NIV)
translation.
....and ignores the fact the prophecy also states Israel would be a
monarchy, despite the length it goes to stretch the rest to fit.
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Explain this: Deuteronomy 25:4, the word of God says: "Thou shalt not
muzzle the ox when he treadeth out the corn."
I do not believe in God, but I have never muzzled an oxen either. So do I
get to go to heaven or not?
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
news:nospam-W4y2c.1363$QY1.74484@news.uswest.net...
100 Bible prophecies explained:
10 fulfilled in 1900s
These 10 Bible prophecies were fulfilled in the early 1900s as millions of
Jews worldwide returned to their ancient homeland.
1. The people of Israel again would be a united people
Bible passage: Ezekiel 37:15-19
Written: between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled: since late 1800s
In Ezekiel 37:15-19, the prophet said that God would make the people of
Israel a united people again. During Ezekiel's time, the people of Israel
had already divided themselves into two separate kingdoms. And both
kingdoms
had been conquered by foreign invasions, which resulted in many people
being
exiled. The southern kingdom was called Judah and the northern kingdom
kept
the name of Israel, although it was often referred to as Ephraim. This
prophecy began to be fulfilled in an important way during the late 1800s,
when leaders of the Zionist Movement began uniting exiled Jews around the
world for the common goal of creating a new and independent Israel. This
must have been quite a challenge because the Jews had been scattered to
countries on six continents, where they spoke different languages and
lived
in different cultures. The Zionist Movement marked the first time in many
centuries that the Jews had been united in such a significant way.
Ezekiel 37:15-19
The word of the Lord came to me: "Son of man, take a stick of wood and
write
on it, `Belonging to Judah and the Israelites associated with him.' Then
take another stick of wood, and write on it, `Ephraim's stick, belonging
to
Joseph and all the house of Israel associated with him.'
Join them together into one stick so that they will become one in your
hand. When your countrymen ask you, `Won't you tell us what you mean by
this?' say to them, `This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am going to
take the stick of Joseph--which is in Ephraim's hand--and of the Israelite
tribes associated with him, and join it to Judah's stick, making them a
single stick of wood, and they will become one in my hand.'
2. Ezekiel said the Jews would return to Israel
Bible passage: Ezekiel 20:34
Written: between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled: late 1800s to today
In Ezekiel 20:34, the prophet said God would gather the people of
Israel
from around the world and bring them home to Israel. The people of Israel
(today they are often called Jews) were forced out of their homeland in
ancient times by the Assyrians, Babylonians and Romans. But, during the
late
1800s, Jews returned by the thousands to the Holy Land, which at that time
was controlled by the Ottoman Empire. During the early 1900s, Jews
returned
by the tens of thousands when the land was controlled by the British. And
they returned by the hundreds of thousands after Israel had declared
statehood in 1948.
Ezekiel 20:34
I will bring you from the nations and gather you from the countries where
you have been scattered--with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and
with
outpoured wrath.
3. Jeremiah said the Jews would buy back land
Bible passage: Jeremiah 32:44
Written: sometime from 626 to about 586 BC
Fulfilled: late 1800s, 1900s
In Jeremiah 32:44, the prophet delivered a promise of restoration,
about
2600 years ago. At that time, Jews were being forced out of their homeland
by the invading Babylonians. Many were taken as captives to Babylon. But,
Jeremiah assured them that they would be able to return in the future and
buy land in their homeland. After the collapse of Babylon, many Jews
returned to Jerusalem and the surrounding area. They were forced into
exile
again by the Romans in 135 AD (about 1970 years ago). During the last
years
of the Ottoman Empire, which ruled over the land of Israel four 400 years,
ending in 1918, thousands of Jews returned to their ancient homeland and
bought parcels of land from absentee landlords who lived in cities such as
Beirut and Damascus. The Jews were forced out of their homeland twice, and
each time they returned in large numbers in fulfillment of Jeremiah's
prophecy.
Jeremiah 32:44
Fields will be bought for silver, and deeds will be signed, sealed and
witnessed in the territory of Benjamin, in the villages around Jerusalem,
in
the towns of Judah and in the towns of the hill country, of the western
foothills and of the Negev, because I will restore their fortunes,
declares
the Lord."
4. The people of Israel would be persecuted in many nations
Bible passage: Deuteronomy 28:65-67
Written: perhaps 1400 BC
Fulfilled: 1940s, 1930s, 135 AD, 721 BC, etc.
In Deuteronomy 28:65-67, the Bible said that the people of Israel would
be scattered among nations and persecuted. They were exiled and scattered
from their homeland in ancient times by the Assyrians, Babylonians and
Romans. The exiles were intensely persecuted in Europe and Russia during
the
Crusades and Pogroms.
During the Holocaust of World War II, the Nazis killed about one-third of
the world's population of Jews. The Nazis called it "The Final Solution"
and
their goal was to kill all Jews. Winston Churchill, a former prime
minister
of England, said: "The Final Solution is probably the greatest, most
horrible crime ever committed in the whole history of the world."
During the mid-1900s, many Jews sought to relocate from Europe to the most
distant countries in the hopes of outrunning the expansion of Nazi
Germany.
This led to new influxes of Jews to North and South America, Australia and
even China.
Many of the exiles chose to return to their ancient homeland to escape
persecution. But persecution followed. At that time, the land of Israel
was
called Palestine. It was controlled by the British and a majority of
people
living there were Arab, including the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who urged
Hitler to deal with the Palestine's Jews with "the same method that the
question is now being settled in the Axis countries. (Genocide)".
In 1948, the Jews declared independence for Israel. But the persecutions
didn't cease. Shortly after the re-establishment of sovereignty for
Israel,
hundreds of thousands of Jews were forced out of the Arab nations in which
they had lived in exile for many centuries.
Deuteronomy 28:65-67
Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole
of your foot. There the Lord will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary
with
longing, and a despairing heart. You will live in constant suspense,
filled
with dread both night and day, never sure of your life. In the morning you
will say, "If only it were evening!" and in the evening, "If only it were
morning!"--because of the terror that will fill your hearts and the sights
that your eyes will see.
5. Isaiah said God would preserve the Jews
Bible passage: Isaiah 66:22
Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC
Fulfilled: 1940s, 1930s, 135 AD, 721 BC, etc.
In Isaiah 66:22, the prophet said that the people of Israel would
endure
and survive as a people, despite the persecutions they would face, as
foretold by other prophecies. Isaiah delivered this prophecy 2,700 years
ago. Since then, the people of Israel, who today are commonly called Jews,
have been massacred at various times by the thousands, by the hundreds of
thousands, and by the millions. In ancient times, the Assyrians virtually
erased from history 10 of 12 tribes of Israel. The Babylonians and Romans
exacted heavy damage on what was left of the people of Israel. The Nazis,
during World War II, sought to annihilate the entire Jewish race. Even so,
the Nazi empire was reduced to ashes shortly before the Jews reclaimed
Israel as a sovereign country in 1948. The Jews are still here. And the
empires that sought to destroy them are nothing more than pages in history
books.
Isaiah 66:22
"As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me,"
declares the Lord, "so will your name and descendants endure.
6. Israel would be rebuilt and resettled
Bible passage: Ezekiel 36:33-35
Written: between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled: 1900s
In Ezekiel 36:33-35, the prophet gave another prophecy about the
re-population and rebuilding of Israel's ruined cities. American author
Mark
Twain described the land of Israel as being thoroughly desolate in the
late
1800s. Since then, millions of Jews have returned to Israel and have been
rebuilding their ancient homeland. Some of the parched desert has been
converted into productive farmland. And Israel has undertaken one of the
world's largest reforestation programs. Israel's population was 10 times
larger in 1998 than it was in 1948.
Ezekiel 36:33-35
"`This is what the Sovereign Lord says: On the day I cleanse you from all
your sins, I will resettle your towns, and the ruins will be rebuilt. The
desolate land will be cultivated instead of lying desolate in the sight of
all who pass through it. They will say, "This land that was laid waste has
become like the garden of Eden; the cities that were lying in ruins,
desolate and destroyed, are now fortified and inhabited."
7. Isaiah foretold the restoration of Israel
Bible passage: Isaiah 35:1-2
Written: perhaps between 701-681 BC
Fulfilled: 1900s
In Isaiah 35:1-2, the prophet said that although Israel would become a
desolate land, its deserts would one day bloom again. This Bible verse
foreshadows the restoration of Israel that has been taking place since the
early 1900s. Millions of Jews have returned to their ancient homeland and
have innovated sophisticated farming techniques and extensive
reforestation
programs to convert parched desert into productive farmland. More than 200
million trees have been planted in Israel since 1900, according to the
Jewish National Fund.
Isaiah 35:1-2
The desert and the parched land will be glad; the wilderness will rejoice
and blossom. Like the crocus, it will burst into bloom; it will rejoice
greatly and shout for joy. The glory of Lebanon will be given to it, the
splendor of Carmel and Sharon; they will see the glory of the Lord, the
splendor of our God.
8. Israel's land would again become fruitful
Bible passage: Zechariah 8:12
Written: between 520 and 518 BC
Fulfilled: 1900s
In Zechariah 8:12, the prophet said that God would allow Israel to
become
a prosperous land again. Israel had been described as being a wasteland
between the time that the Jews had been forced out of their homeland by
the
Romans (about 1900 years ago) and the time when the Jews began returning
to
and restoring Israel during the 1900s. Although the restoration continues,
Israel is able to export food to many countries.
Zechariah 8:12
"The seed will grow well, the vine will yield its fruit, the ground will
produce its crops, and the heavens will drop their dew. I will give all
these things as an inheritance to the remnant of this people."
9. The people of Israel would live many days without a king
Bible passage: Hosea 3:4-5
Written: about 750 BC
Fulfilled: Being fulfilled since 70 AD
Hosea's prophecy, found in Hosea 3:4-5, foretells three important
events:
1. The people of Israel would lose their sovereignty ("live many days
without a king or prince"). A Bible scholar, named John Gill, interprets
Hosea 3:4 as meaning that the people of Israel would endure a period of
time
"Without any form of civil government ... being subject to the kings and
princes of other nations."
2. The people of Israel would lose their ability to worship in the manner
in
which they were accustomed. (example: "without sacrifice ... without
ephod").
3. The people of Israel would return to the land of Israel and seek "David
their king." (The phrase, "David their king," is often understood to refer
the promised Messiah, who the prophets had said would be a descendant of
King David).
Each of these three things has happened twice. The first time was about
2600
years ago when the Babylonians invaded the Holy Land, deposed the king,
destroyed the city of Jerusalem, and the holy Temple, which was the center
of worship for the people of Israel.
The Babylonians also forced many Jews into exile. But, after the collapse
of
the Babylonian empire, many eventually returned to their homeland and
rebuilt Jerusalem and the Temple. A few centuries later, the second Temple
had undergone a massive reconstruction, which was completed at about the
time of Jesus, which was about 2000 years ago.
From a Christian point of view, Jesus, who is described as being a
descendant of King David in the New Testament book of Matthew, is the
Messiah who was promised when Hosea spoke of "David their king."
This prophecy is now going through its second fulfillment. During the
Roman
Empire era, the people of Israel had lost sovereignty over their homeland
for the second time, and they had lost their Temple for the second time,
when the Romans destroyed the city of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
Since the Roman era, the majority of Jews have lived in exile, in
countries
around the world, where they are subject to the kings and governments of
other nations. And, because the Temple has not yet been rebuilt, they
continue to be unable to perform various sacred practices that are
important
to Judaism. (Judaism is the Jewish religion).
But some of this hardship began to change in an important way during the
first half of the 1900s, when many Jews from around the world returned to
the land of Israel and reclaimed independence over a portion of their
ancient homeland. In the year 2004, about one-third of the world's Jewish
population lives in Israel, a nation that has been governed by Jews since
1948.
From a Christian perspective, this too is significant because we
Christians
believe that Jesus is to return a second time, after a significant number
of
Jews have returned to Israel, to establish a kingdom of righteousness on
earth. From a Christian point of view, this prophecy will be completed -
again - during the "last days" when Jesus returns.
Hosea 3:4-5
For the Israelites will live many days without king or prince, without
sacrifice or sacred stones, without ephod or idol. Afterward the
Israelites
will return and seek the LORD their God and David their king. They will
come
trembling to the LORD and to his blessings in the last days.
10. Israel would rise again
Bible passage: Micah 7:8-11
Written: sometime between 750-686 BC
Fulfilled: beginning late 1800s
In Micah 7:8-11, the prophet said that Israel would one day rise again.
During Micah's lifetime about 2700 years ago, the Assyrians were
destroying
the northern kingdom of Israel. Later, the Babylonians conquered the
southern kingdom of Judah. And then, the Romans brought more devastation
to
Judah. That led to many centuries of exile for the Jews. However, during
the
past two centuries, many Jews from around the world have returned to their
ancient homeland and have reclaimed sovereignty for a portion of the
original land of Israel. The declaration of independence in 1948 led to
three major wars with the surrounding countries. Each time, tiny Israel
prevailed and was able to seize additional land.
Micah 7:8-11
Do not gloat over me, my enemy! Though I have fallen, I will rise. Though
I
sit in darkness, the Lord will be my light. Because I have sinned against
him, I will bear the Lord's wrath, until he pleads my case and establishes
my right. He will bring me out into the light; I will see his
righteousness.
Then my enemy will see it and will be covered with shame, she who said to
me, "Where is the Lord your God?" My eyes will see her downfall; even now
she will be trampled underfoot like mire in the streets. The day for
building your walls will come, the day for extending your boundaries.
Notes: Bible verses are from the New International Version (NIV)
translation.
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07 Mar 2004 11:22:37 AM |
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In article <nospam-W4y2c.1363$QY1.74484@news.uswest.net>,
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
100 Bible prophecies explained:
[Snipped due to Baloney Detection Kit in effect]
Those pesky science folks have criteria for evaluating the validity of
a prophecy, and so far, the process has been exceptionally effective
in weeding out charlatans from True Prophets. The process looks like
this, from a high level:
(1) The prophecy my must be document ahead of time, and it
must be independently validated by impartial parties
to have been done so.
(2) The documentation of the prophecy must be done in a way
as to be clear, and unambiguous in order to remove the
influences of subjective interpretation (AKA "form
fitting"), and in order to create an unalterable record
of the prophecy so that what was prophesized can be
compared to what actually happened. Having the prophecy
recorded in human memory, passed down by word of mouth,
then eventually written down, does not cut it.
(3) The documented prophecy must have several characteristics
which include, but are not limited to, the following:
o Specific: What happens? What parties are involved?
Where does it happen? A good example is: My aunt
Edna dies of cancer in Oakville Trafalgar hospital.
o Measurable: There has to be some way to measure
actual event. Someone's death qualifies. An
unobservable (or unmeasurable event) does not.
o Timely: When does it happen? A date such as October 22,
2003, qualifies. Providing some latitude, such as
qualifying the date with "on or about" is less preferred.
Using vague generalities such as "one day", or making
the prophecy dependent upon other events, does not.
(4) The person making the prophecy must be proven to not have
"insider information" as to the prophecy. For example, it
appears that the courts have found that Martha Stewart was
not in fact prophesying with respect to the future value of
her own company's stock, some time ago. This same principle
applies to people who have dreams of a relative's death when
they have known of the relative being seriously ill for a
while. This absence of "insider information" must be proven
beyond reasonable doubt (or "shadow of a doubt", in some
cases). Lack of proof positive does not establish the
required proof of lacking knowledge.
(5) The prophesized event must be shown to be outside of the
realm of random probability. Prophesying that I'm going to
win at the craps table, sustaining 18 losses, then making a
single win, falls well within the odds of random probability.
Actually, so does rolling the dice only once and winning.
(6) The prophesized event must be confirmed to have occurred by
independent, impartial parties, and scientifically validated
in terms of the true nature of the event. For example, a
prophecy of the Ghost Of Christmas Future appearing would
need to be validated on two fronts, (a) that the prophesized
apparition appeared as it was prophesied, and (b) that the
manifestation was in fact a legitimate ghost.
As you can see, the "prophesizing" business is rather one-sided where
mystics and Prophets have a big zero on the scoreboard (once we have
validated the legitimacy of the alleged prophecy), and science being
the big winner. For example, a bunch of science guys sitting at
computers can design and test an entirely new, large, passenger
jetliner solely within the realm of software, without having made a
single model or doing any wind-tunnel tests. Basing their opinions on
data, physics, thermodynamics, and other scientific disciplines, they
can design a new jet engine that is supposed to be 15% more fuel
efficient than its contemporaries. When the planned aircraft is built,
it flies and performs virtually exactly as predicted. I'm not sure if
this example qualifies as a legitimate prophecy, or as an extreme case
of "insider information" in which a predicted outcome comes to pass
due to legitimate knowledge (i.e., understanding) of how this world of
ours and the stuff in it operates.
You may hit the "delete" button now, but for those who are interested,
the following report does NOT qualify as a scientifically validated
prophecy:
REUTERS - Fri Oct 18, 2002, 8:15 AM ET
A Port Lavaca, Texas, woman is safely at home this morning
after being detained by Federal authorities for twelve
days in relation to the September 11 attacks on the World
Trade Center. Janet Andrews, 38, was released late yesterday
after being detained and questioned regarding her suspected
involvement in the attacks.
Andrews, a Port Lavaca native, told reporters she had a
series of vivid "visions" during the preceding months of
June and July of the same year in which she claims she saw
"jet airplanes flying into the twin towers." She was so
disturbed by these visions that she reported them to local
police, then a week later after authorities failed to
respond, she filed a report by phone with the Federal Bureau
of Investigation. Both local and Federal authorities have
confirmed that Andrews filed reports with them in July 2002
in which she expressed "deep concern" of an imminent attack
on the World Trade Center by way of civilian jet aircraft.
A shaken Andrews told reporters what she was held, but not
charged, by Federal authorities that suspected her of being
involved in the September 11 attacks. She was released twelve
days later, unharmed, after investigators were satisfied that
she was not a suspect.
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07 Mar 2004 12:55:39 PM |
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In article <nospam-W4y2c.1363$QY1.74484@news.uswest.net>,
Nospam@Nomarketing.com says...
1. The people of Israel again would be a united people
Bible passage: Ezekiel 37:15-19
Written: between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled: since late 1800s
In Ezekiel 37:15-19, the prophet said that God would make the people of
Israel a united people again.
Yo, painfully stupid jackass, the davidic kingdom broke up because the
moronic king solomon was a terrible administrator and an even bigger
hypocrite and thief than his father david. His idiot son turned out to be
a divider rather than a uniter and the kingdom split, proving that bible
promises of an eternal davidic kingship were nothing but bovine scatalia.
BTW, the jewish people are far from united, even in Israel. Nice try
fuckwit.
The Zionist Movement marked the first time in many
centuries that the Jews had been united in such a significant way.
***** and in any event, they did not re-establish a davidic kingship.
They have a constitutional democracy, you dumb *****.
2. Ezekiel said the Jews would return to Israel
Bible passage: Ezekiel 20:34
Written: between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled: late 1800s to today
In Ezekiel 20:34, the prophet said God would gather the people of Israel
from around the world and bring them home to Israel.
They didn't even hold jerusalem until the 1960's, so that's hardly an
accomplishment. However, there have been jews living in the region for a
considerable amount of time anyway, so the prophecy is meaningless. Then
again, if you give a prophecy 2500 years to be fulfilled that's kinda like
rolling the dice until you get the outcome you want.
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3. Jeremiah said the Jews would buy back land
Bible passage: Jeremiah 32:44
Written: sometime from 626 to about 586 BC
Fulfilled: late 1800s, 1900s
In Jeremiah 32:44, the prophet delivered a promise of restoration, about
2600 years ago.
Actually, moron, Jeremiah bought land in his time, expecting that the
babylonian captivity would end. The jews did return after decades of
captivity, fulfilling the so-called prophecy. Jeremiah was not predicting
an event that would take place thousands of years later.
4. The people of Israel would be persecuted in many nations
Bible passage: Deuteronomy 28:65-67
Oh shut up, fool. That's like predicting that it's going to rain. Jewish
history already fulfilled such things well before the diaspora. Ever heard
of Egypt, dimwit? They had already been supposedly persecuted in Goshen.
Later in Judges they complain of persecution by many different ethnic
groups and petty warlords. BTW, they used the term nation to refer to many
tiny gentile kingdoms. They did not mean it in the sense of a modern
nation state.
5. Isaiah said God would preserve the Jews
Bible passage: Isaiah 66:22
Oh, well golly gee, if he hadn't then there always would have been some
kind of excuse, like perhaps, "they disobeyed him" or some other pat
answer.
6. Israel would be rebuilt and resettled
Bible passage: Ezekiel 36:33-35
Written: between 593-571 BC
Fulfilled: 1900s
No, fucking idiot, the place has been continuously rebuilt and resettled by
many different groups of people.
7. Isaiah foretold the restoration of Israel
Hummmm.....these "10 bible prophecies" all pretty much seem like variations
on the same event so far.
8. Israel's land would again become fruitful
Yep, pretty much the same ***** repackaged in every conceivable kind of
wrapper. Sorry, but your religion is still *****, no matter how you try to
dress it up.
9. The people of Israel would live many days without a king
LOL!!!! "Many days"? As in "more than one day". Yeah, I'd say that's
about as certain as "when you die you will stop breathing for many days".
10. Israel would rise again
Just to summarize you've offered
1. "The people of Israel again would be a united people"
2. "the Jews would return to Israel"
3. "God would preserve the Jews"
4. "Israel would be rebuilt and resettled"
5. "the restoration of Israel"
6. "Israel would rise again"
In other words, 6 of your post-dictions are based on the idea that some
jews are still around and in Israel. You conveniently forget that actual
bible predictions also call for the dead sea to become pure, the lion and
the lamb to lie down in peace and everyone on earth to be lovey dovey.
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