Religions > Atheism > 10,000 Newly Registered Voters Not Allowed to Vote Due to Monor Errors on Forms
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27 Oct 2004 09:27:46 PM |
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10,000 Newly Registered Voters Not Allowed to Vote Due to Monor Errors on Forms |
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/27/politics/campaign/27felon.html
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| User: "Clayton Insert Pop Culture Pun Here" |
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| Title: Re: 10,000 Newly Registered Voters Not Allowed to Vote Due to Monor Errors on Forms |
28 Oct 2004 01:30:28 AM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:POqdnV9FAKqOxB3cRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/27/politics/campaign/27felon.html
They'll do anything to prevent a fair election...anything at all!!!
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: 10,000 Newly Registered Voters Not Allowed to Vote Due to Monor Errors on Forms |
28 Oct 2004 05:16:52 PM |
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:30:28 +1000, "Clayton <Insert Pop Culture Pun Here>"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com> wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:POqdnV9FAKqOxB3cRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/27/politics/campaign/27felon.html
They'll do anything to prevent a fair election...anything at all!!!
Yep, those gosh darn 'rats will do that all right.
duke
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: 10,000 Newly Registered Voters Not Allowed to Vote Due to Monor Errors on Forms |
29 Oct 2004 01:38:34 AM |
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In article <POqdnV9FAKqOxB3cRVn-jQ@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/27/politics/campaign/27felon.html
Reminds me of the old Jim Crow days and literacy tests used to keep
African-Americans from voting.
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new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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| User: "Mike Ruskai" |
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| Title: Re: 10,000 Newly Registered Voters Not Allowed to Vote Due to Monor Errors on Forms |
30 Oct 2004 11:12:46 PM |
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:38:34 -0700, johac wrote:
In article <POqdnV9FAKqOxB3cRVn-jQ@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/27/politics/campaign/27felon.html
Reminds me of the old Jim Crow days and literacy tests used to keep
African-Americans from voting.
Off-topic response, but this bugs me. Why use the bogus term
African-American?
If you must discriminate (in the descriptive sense), use the term "black".
It's not offensive.
Most "African-Americans" aren't in any sense African. Those blacks still
living in Africa are certainly not Americans, so what term do you use for
them? What about the blacks in England, France, and other countries
outside of Africa and America around the world?
Charlize Theron (born and mostly raised in South Africa) is an
African-American.
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| User: "Jim Burns" |
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| Title: Re: 10,000 Newly Registered Voters Not Allowed to Vote Due to MonorErrors on Forms |
31 Oct 2004 09:33:29 AM |
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Mike Ruskai wrote:
[...]
Off-topic response, but this bugs me. Why use the bogus term
African-American?
I probably shouldn't jump in here, since I don't have a horse in
this race. I'm 2/4 Irish-American and 2/4 German-American. But
this is something I've wondered about myself.
My vague recollection is that "African-American" was intended
to parallel, for example, "Irish-American" or "German-American",
in order to position that community as one more ethnic group
among (approximate) equals, instead of being set apart (the
melting pot for everyone except blacks), as had been the case
for centuries.
If you'd like to check how accurate my vague recollections are,
you might look for speeches by Jesse Jackson from the '70s
(I seem to recall).
If you must discriminate (in the descriptive sense), use the term
"black". It's not offensive.
Absolutely. "Black" is not considered offensive -- today. The
"polite" way to refer to African-Americans has changed again
and again over the years: see NAACP (National Association for
the Advancement of Colored People) and UNCF (United Negro
College Fund). I think the Black Panthers may have chosen their
name as much for the shock value of publicly referring to
themselves as black as for the image of strength.
I thought "Black is Beautiful" was brilliant. I thought it
completely turned around the perception of "blackness" in the US.
I was disappointed when it was dropped in favor of the bland
"African-American".
Most "African-Americans" aren't in any sense African.
They are approximately as African as I am Irish or German.
Those blacks still
living in Africa are certainly not Americans, so what term do you
use for them? What about the blacks in England, France, and
other countries outside of Africa and America around the world?
I'm not sure why this is a problem for you. What would you call
someone of Irish descent living in Ireland? I don't think I've seen
anyone try to apply "African-American" outside the US.
I admit to being curious what the descendants of US ex-slaves
in Liberia are called. African-American-Africans? (Probably
something like American-Africans.)
Charlize Theron (born and mostly raised in South Africa) is an
African-American.
Yes, and I understand Teresa Heinz Kerry is an African-American,
too, born and raised in Mozambique. I think someone tried to
manufacture some controversy out of that, but it went nowhere.
You could say "white African-American" if you wanted to, but
both of them are well enough known that the addition seems
unnecessary.
Jim Burns
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| User: "Mike Ruskai" |
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| Title: Re: 10,000 Newly Registered Voters Not Allowed to Vote Due to Monor Errors on Forms |
31 Oct 2004 12:11:34 PM |
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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 10:33:29 -0500, Jim Burns wrote:
Mike Ruskai wrote:
Those blacks still
living in Africa are certainly not Americans, so what term do you
use for them? What about the blacks in England, France, and
other countries outside of Africa and America around the world?
I'm not sure why this is a problem for you. What would you call
someone of Irish descent living in Ireland? I don't think I've seen
anyone try to apply "African-American" outside the US.
I didn't witness it myself, but a short while back, a reporter supposedly
called Nelson Mandela an African-American, to his face.
It's clear that in this country, it's a replacement for "black", not at
all a label like Irish-American, which I see as a separate fad. If you're
not born in Ireland, you're not an Irish-American, as I see it.
The pointlessness of using Foo-American terms really stands out in the
case of a typical American mutt like me. If I were to follow the fad, I'd
be a German-Hungarian-Polish-English-Danish-Irish-American. Those are
just the nationalities I know of in my ancestry. But I'm simply an
American, a term which should have little utility outside of indicating
what language I speak, and what part of the world I live in.
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| User: "James Burns" |
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| Title: Re: 10,000 Newly Registered Voters Not Allowed to Vote Due to MonorErrors on Forms |
01 Nov 2004 07:07:15 PM |
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Mike Ruskai wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 10:33:29 -0500, Jim Burns wrote:
Mike Ruskai wrote:
Those blacks still
living in Africa are certainly not Americans, so what term do you
use for them? What about the blacks in England, France, and
other countries outside of Africa and America around the world?
I'm not sure why this is a problem for you. What would you call
someone of Irish descent living in Ireland? I don't think I've seen
anyone try to apply "African-American" outside the US.
I didn't witness it myself, but a short while back, a reporter
supposedly called Nelson Mandela an African-American, to his face.
I hope the reporter felt thoroughly stupid when they realized
what they'd done. Still, it seems unlikely to me that it was anything
more than one individual's stupidity. If it were more, I'd be with
you in condemning the "Americanization" of blacks world-wide.
It's clear that in this country, it's a replacement for "black",
not at all a label like Irish-American, which I see as a separate
fad. If you're not born in Ireland, you're not an Irish-American,
as I see it.
"African-American" replaced "black", which replaced "Negro", which
replaced "colored", all of which replace a well-known term so
hated I won't even type it here. They all carry the same information,
including the last one. Which one's "right"?
I guess I'm not an Irish-American, as you see it. I think I can live
with that. Looks you're going to have to get used to my seeing
myself as an Irish-American (among other things). In fact, it
looks like you'll have to put up with lots of folks doing the
same.
Not so much today, but at one time, being Irish-American was not
just a label, or just an excuse to party once a year. It was a
community, separate from the mainstream to some degree. It
may be that this is what you are objecting to, the separateness,
real or implied.
Personally, I think our Foo-Americans are one of the US's strengths.
The stronger our ties to Ireland, Africa, China, Brasil, the
stronger we are.
By the way, it may be that the fad of calling oneself a Foo-American
is older than the fad of calling oneself "simply an American".
The pointlessness of using Foo-American terms really stands out
in the case of a typical American mutt like me. If I were to
follow the fad, I'd be a German-Hungarian-Polish-English-Danish-
Irish-American. Those are just the nationalities I know of in my
ancestry. But I'm simply an American, a term which should have
little utility outside of indicating what language I speak, and
what part of the world I live in.
No, I don't really see why your extended Foo-American term is
pointless. It says to me that you, at least potentially, have
family stories that go back to Germany, Hungary, Poland,
England, Denmark and Ireland. More likely, it means you've got
family ties into the German-American, etc., communities, whether
you want to call them that or not.
"American" works for me, too. However, I am not "only an American."
I'm lots of other things as well, including Irish-American and
German-American.
Jim Burns
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| User: "Godfrey" |
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| Title: Re: 10,000 Newly Registered Voters Not Allowed to Vote Due to Monor Errors on Forms |
28 Oct 2004 02:56:55 AM |
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:27:46 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/27/politics/campaign/27felon.html
Just monor errors? Typos and such?
Godfrey
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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| Title: Re: 10,000 Newly Registered Voters Not Allowed to Vote Due to Monor Errors on Forms |
28 Oct 2004 05:35:02 AM |
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Godfrey <No@Email.Provided> astounded us with:
news:5k91o0l99cgqlqinb677i5hd80tacog0qj@4ax.com:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:27:46 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/27/politics/campaign/27felon.html
Just monor errors? Typos and such?
Hey! No makin' fun o' the boss!
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| User: "agray" |
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| Title: Re: 10,000 Newly Registered Voters Not Allowed to Vote Due to Monor Errors on Forms |
28 Oct 2004 12:17:35 PM |
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Godfrey wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:27:46 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/27/politics/campaign/27felon.html
Just monor errors? Typos and such?
At least one batch is being challenged because the applicants did not check
the box indicating "US Citizenship" -- even though by signing the form they
effectively swear that they are in fact citizens.
What kind of American would want to subvert the process and prevent every
vote from being counted? I know that in 2000, there was a difference of
opinion on the fairest way to recount -- but here we have people
deliberately attempting to prevent fellow Americans from voting.
This goes beyond partisan politics. Anyone who deliberately interferes with
the proper voting rights of fellow Americans is a traitor. No matter which
side wins, there should be a full investigation of these incidents and
everyone involved, democrat or republican, should be sent to prison.
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going to turn white people black." --OrangeSFO on rec.gambling.poker
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| User: "Clayton Insert Pop Culture Pun Here" |
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| Title: Re: 10,000 Newly Registered Voters Not Allowed to Vote Due to Monor Errors on Forms |
28 Oct 2004 08:39:22 PM |
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"agray" <aSgPrAaMy@bitusmeus.com> wrote in message
news:clr94u12ec8@news4.newsguy.com...
What kind of American would want to subvert the process and prevent every
vote from being counted?
The kind desperate to hang onto the almost complete powers he stole four
years ago!!
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: 10,000 Newly Registered Voters Not Allowed to Vote Due to Monor Errors on Forms |
28 Oct 2004 05:17:41 PM |
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 07:56:55 GMT, Godfrey <No@Email.Provided> wrote:
Just monor errors? Typos and such?
Godfrey
If you can't spell your name, you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
duke
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Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
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| User: "Godfrey" |
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| Title: Re: 10,000 Newly Registered Voters Not Allowed to Vote Due to Monor Errors on Forms |
29 Oct 2004 08:54:20 PM |
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:17:41 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 07:56:55 GMT, Godfrey <No@Email.Provided> wrote:
Just monor errors? Typos and such?
Godfrey
If you can't spell your name, you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Jist cos sumwun kant spill duznt meen there nawt smart enuf tu voat.
Becuz nou whith TVEE itz nawt soe imortint, spilling eye meen.
Gawdfree
duke
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Matthew 22
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: 10,000 Newly Registered Voters Not Allowed to Vote Due to Monor Errors on Forms |
31 Oct 2004 01:35:10 PM |
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:54:20 GMT, Godfrey <No@Email.Provided> wrote:
If you can't spell your name, you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Jist cos sumwun kant spill duznt meen there nawt smart enuf tu voat.
Becuz nou whith TVEE itz nawt soe imortint, spilling eye meen.
How did they register?
duke
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Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
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| User: "Godfrey" |
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| Title: Re: 10,000 Newly Registered Voters Not Allowed to Vote Due to Monor Errors on Forms |
02 Nov 2004 03:42:38 AM |
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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 13:35:10 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:54:20 GMT, Godfrey <No@Email.Provided> wrote:
If you can't spell your name, you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Jist cos sumwun kant spill duznt meen there nawt smart enuf tu voat.
Becuz nou whith TVEE itz nawt soe imortint, spilling eye meen.
How did they register?
Hmm... motor-voter laws? Where you're automatically registered when
you get a driver's license. And any idiot can get one of those, as
our freeways in California plainly show.
Godfrey
duke
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Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
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