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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Yang, AthD h.c"
Date: 07 Sep 2004 01:31:58 AM
Object: 1,024 Coalition GI Killed By AWOL's Big Lie. Catastrophic Success!
"...The people can always be brought to the bidding of the
leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being
attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and
exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trial
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The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
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The Bush Iraq lie: -992 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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User: "gatt"

Title: Re: 1,024 Coalition GI Killed By AWOL's Big Lie. Catastrophic Success! 07 Sep 2004 11:58:37 AM
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:sclqj010t4c6omfs1l3l0vboc8nj8fto0q@4ax.com...

"...The people can always be brought to the bidding of the
leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being
attacked,

Especially when they have been attacked...
-c
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User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: 1,024 Coalition GI Killed By AWOL's Big Lie. Catastrophic Success! 07 Sep 2004 12:09:11 PM
On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 09:58:37 -0700, "gatt"
<gatt@livefromtheclocktower.com> wrote:


"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:sclqj010t4c6omfs1l3l0vboc8nj8fto0q@4ax.com...

"...The people can always be brought to the bidding of the
leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being
attacked,


Especially when they have been attacked...

....by somebody else.

-c

.
User: "cor"

Title: Re: 1,024 Coalition GI Killed By AWOL's Big Lie. Catastrophic Success! 07 Sep 2004 01:33:53 PM
"Christopher A. Lee" wrote:


On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 09:58:37 -0700, "gatt"
<gatt@livefromtheclocktower.com> wrote:


"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:sclqj010t4c6omfs1l3l0vboc8nj8fto0q@4ax.com...

"...The people can always be brought to the bidding of the
leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being
attacked,


Especially when they have been attacked...


...by somebody else.

A small detail for Gatt.


-c

.


User: "cor"

Title: Re: 1,024 Coalition GI Killed By AWOL's Big Lie. Catastrophic Success! 07 Sep 2004 01:32:50 PM
gatt wrote:


"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:sclqj010t4c6omfs1l3l0vboc8nj8fto0q@4ax.com...

"...The people can always be brought to the bidding of the
leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being
attacked,


Especially when they have been attacked...

-c

Apparently in both cases with FBI or Pentagon help.
.


User: "Bill Darnell"

Title: KERRY CAMPAIGN ADMITS HE MAY HAVE FAKED HIS WAR MEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 07 Sep 2004 02:53:59 AM
KERRY CAMPAIGN ADMITS HE MAY HAVE FAKED HIS WAR
MEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
John Kerry, another insincere, tax and spend liberal from
Massachusetts, faked his first purple heart (we know all of his medals
were faked). His campaign finally admitted so. His personal diaries
used in the making of his official biography also contradicts his many
lies during the last 30 years.
I also find it interesting that for liberals, who demonized the Viet
Nam war and portrayed the soldiers who fought in that war as
drug-crazed, psychopaths as depicted in movies like Platoon, etc., now
claim that the
war was a noble one. That Kerry himself said that it was noble and we
did the right thing in trying to bring democracy to that country. (He
later came back and demonstrated against that war, called its vets war
criminals, attended events with Hanoi Jane, wrote a book called The
New Soldier which further criticizes what we did there, testified
before the Senate with phony soldiers from the VVAW, and negotiated
with the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese as depicted in the just
released Hanoi Tapes.)
Liberals can't seem to nominate anyone other than proven liars,
sociopaths, and rapists. They do, however, always nominate
America-hating scumbags.
---------------
Liberals Hate America!
.
User: "gatt"

Title: Re: KERRY CAMPAIGN ADMITS HE MAY HAVE FAKED HIS WAR MEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 07 Sep 2004 12:01:21 PM
"Bill Darnell" <bdarnell@N0SPAM.0RG> wrote in message \

I also find it interesting that for liberals, who demonized the Viet
Nam war and portrayed the soldiers who fought in that war as
drug-crazed, psychopaths as depicted in movies like Platoon, etc., now
claim that the war was a noble one.

Who does? I'm just curious...have you been taking recreational
pharmaceuticals? Show us where a liberal said the Viet Nam war was noble.

That Kerry himself said that it was noble

Show me. I think you're lying. Dishonest people like you have driven me
further away from my family's longstanding Republican traditions than
anything the Dems have done.
If you to lie to win, you don't deserve to win.
-c
.
User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: KERRY CAMPAIGN ADMITS HE MAY HAVE FAKED HIS WAR MEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 07 Sep 2004 01:40:10 PM
"Bill Darnell" <bdarnell@N0SPAM.0RG> wrote in message \

I also find it interesting that for liberals, who demonized the Viet
Nam war and portrayed the soldiers who fought in that war as
drug-crazed, psychopaths as depicted in movies like Platoon, etc., now
claim that the war was a noble one.

Just to point out, Platoon was written and directed by Oliver Stone.
Stone, who volunteered for service as an infantryman in Vietnam,
served with both the 25th Infantry Division and the 1st Cavalry
Division.
Platoon was based on the things he himself saw during his tour of
duty. A tour where he earned both the Bronze Star and a Purple Heart
(he was shot in the neck.)
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.
User: "vinpo"

Title: Re: KERRY CAMPAIGN ADMITS HE MAY HAVE FAKED HIS WAR MEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 07 Sep 2004 05:35:16 PM
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:8uvrj01d0avhj18smml4ndpi5jgt94qhtg@4ax.com...

"Bill Darnell" <bdarnell@N0SPAM.0RG> wrote in message \

I also find it interesting that for liberals, who demonized the Viet
Nam war and portrayed the soldiers who fought in that war as
drug-crazed, psychopaths as depicted in movies like Platoon, etc., now
claim that the war was a noble one.


Just to point out, Platoon was written and directed by Oliver Stone.
Stone, who volunteered for service as an infantryman in Vietnam,
served with both the 25th Infantry Division and the 1st Cavalry
Division.

Platoon was based on the things he himself saw during his tour of
duty. A tour where he earned both the Bronze Star and a Purple Heart
(he was shot in the neck.)
--

Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.

pascal lived BEFORE the age of communist regimes.
one could argue that communism (belief therein) IS a religious conviction
and thus does not disprove (or offer countering evidence) to pascal's
claim., or say that pascal was making an observation, not a prediction
(since communism did not exist in 1662). thus, the quote is outdated at
best, since pascal never experienced the most significant contributor to
human evil in RECENT history, which is communim. atheistic communism, i
might add. how ironic. far more evil committed by "true believers" in
communism, who simultaneously denied the existence of god. and outstripped
those who religious conviction IN A DEITY in recent history. although, if
the islamists keep it up, they might trump communism.
whit
.
User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: KERRY CAMPAIGN ADMITS HE MAY HAVE FAKED HIS WAR MEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 08 Sep 2004 01:18:32 AM
In our last thrilling episode, "vinpo" <vinpo@earthlink.net> was
pushed over the cliffs of alt.atheism on Tue, 07 Sep 2004 22:35:16 GMT
by Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he fell, he screamed:

pascal lived BEFORE the age of communist regimes.

one could argue that communism (belief therein) IS a religious conviction
and thus does not disprove (or offer countering evidence) to pascal's
claim., or say that pascal was making an observation, not a prediction
(since communism did not exist in 1662). thus, the quote is outdated at
best, since pascal never experienced the most significant contributor to
human evil in RECENT history, which is communim. atheistic communism, i
might add. how ironic. far more evil committed by "true believers" in
communism, who simultaneously denied the existence of god. and outstripped
those who religious conviction IN A DEITY in recent history. although, if
the islamists keep it up, they might trump communism.

Dude. You are spending way too much time on my sig file.
Anyway, Jesus was a communist.
He told his followers to distribut the wealth.
He attacked legitimate capitalist enterprises in the Temple.
He ordered his followers to renounce everything, but ever the Party
plutocrat, didn't mind having the most expensive oils used on him.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.

User: "Kate "

Title: Re: KERRY CAMPAIGN ADMITS HE MAY HAVE FAKED HIS WAR MEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 07 Sep 2004 11:26:30 PM
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 22:35:16 GMT, "vinpo" <vinpo@earthlink.net> wrote:


Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:8uvrj01d0avhj18smml4ndpi5jgt94qhtg@4ax.com...

"Bill Darnell" <bdarnell@N0SPAM.0RG> wrote in message \

I also find it interesting that for liberals, who demonized the Viet
Nam war and portrayed the soldiers who fought in that war as
drug-crazed, psychopaths as depicted in movies like Platoon, etc., now
claim that the war was a noble one.


Just to point out, Platoon was written and directed by Oliver Stone.
Stone, who volunteered for service as an infantryman in Vietnam,
served with both the 25th Infantry Division and the 1st Cavalry
Division.

Platoon was based on the things he himself saw during his tour of
duty. A tour where he earned both the Bronze Star and a Purple Heart
(he was shot in the neck.)
--

Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.


pascal lived BEFORE the age of communist regimes.

one could argue that communism (belief therein) IS a religious conviction
and thus does not disprove (or offer countering evidence) to pascal's
claim., or say that pascal was making an observation, not a prediction
(since communism did not exist in 1662). thus, the quote is outdated at
best, since pascal never experienced the most significant contributor to
human evil in RECENT history, which is communim. atheistic communism, i
might add. how ironic. far more evil committed by "true believers" in
communism, who simultaneously denied the existence of god. and outstripped
those who religious conviction IN A DEITY in recent history. although, if
the islamists keep it up, they might trump communism.

If communism is atheist, then how come there are lots and lots of
religous communes? How come even here in the good ole USA there are
fundimentalist christian communes?
The answer is, the two things have nothing to do with each other. It
just that some corrupt governments did not want to share power with
religous groups and subdued them. Communism does not promote atheism,
nor atheism promote communism.
Please file that and try living a good moral truthful life from now
on.
.
User: "Baxter"

Title: Re: KERRY CAMPAIGN ADMITS HE MAY HAVE FAKED HIS WAR MEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 08 Sep 2004 10:13:15 AM
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"Kate " <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote in message
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The answer is, the two things have nothing to do with each other. It
just that some corrupt governments did not want to share power with
religous groups and subdued them. Communism does not promote atheism,
nor atheism promote communism.

Actually, historically, Christianity has promoted communism.
.

User: "Hal Lillywhite"

Title: Re: KERRY CAMPAIGN ADMITS HE MAY HAVE FAKED HIS WAR MEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 08 Sep 2004 07:41:22 PM
(Kate ) wrote in message news:<414887ff.102026062@news-west.newscene.com>...

The answer is, the two things have nothing to do with each other. It
just that some corrupt governments did not want to share power with
religous groups and subdued them. Communism does not promote atheism,
nor atheism promote communism.

The marxist version of communism most certainly promotes atheism. Try
reading his Communist Manifesto. It was Marx who called religion the
opiate of the people and said it should be abolished.
.
User: "r-ala"

Title: Re: KERRY CAMPAIGN ADMITS HE MAY HAVE FAKED HIS WAR MEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 08 Sep 2004 10:55:26 PM
"Hal Lillywhite" <hlillywh@juno.com> wrote in message
news:ccf77bfa.0409081641.6b779b47@posting.google.com...

cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in message

news:<414887ff.102026062@news-west.newscene.com>...


The answer is, the two things have nothing to do with each other. It
just that some corrupt governments did not want to share power with
religous groups and subdued them. Communism does not promote atheism,
nor atheism promote communism.


The marxist version of communism most certainly promotes atheism. Try
reading his Communist Manifesto. It was Marx who called religion the
opiate of the people and said it should be abolished.

bingo
in communism, the state is paramount. as such, it can't have pesky
religions.
whit
.


User: "vinpo"

Title: Re: KERRY CAMPAIGN ADMITS HE MAY HAVE FAKED HIS WAR MEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 07 Sep 2004 11:44:03 PM
Kate <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote in message
news:414887ff.102026062@news-west.newscene.com...

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 22:35:16 GMT, "vinpo" <vinpo@earthlink.net> wrote:


Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:8uvrj01d0avhj18smml4ndpi5jgt94qhtg@4ax.com...

"Bill Darnell" <bdarnell@N0SPAM.0RG> wrote in message \

I also find it interesting that for liberals, who demonized the Viet
Nam war and portrayed the soldiers who fought in that war as
drug-crazed, psychopaths as depicted in movies like Platoon, etc.,

now

claim that the war was a noble one.


Just to point out, Platoon was written and directed by Oliver Stone.
Stone, who volunteered for service as an infantryman in Vietnam,
served with both the 25th Infantry Division and the 1st Cavalry
Division.

Platoon was based on the things he himself saw during his tour of
duty. A tour where he earned both the Bronze Star and a Purple Heart
(he was shot in the neck.)
--

Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.


pascal lived BEFORE the age of communist regimes.

one could argue that communism (belief therein) IS a religious conviction
and thus does not disprove (or offer countering evidence) to pascal's
claim., or say that pascal was making an observation, not a prediction
(since communism did not exist in 1662). thus, the quote is outdated at
best, since pascal never experienced the most significant contributor to
human evil in RECENT history, which is communim. atheistic communism, i
might add. how ironic. far more evil committed by "true believers" in
communism, who simultaneously denied the existence of god. and

outstripped

those who religious conviction IN A DEITY in recent history. although,

if

the islamists keep it up, they might trump communism.


If communism is atheist, then how come there are lots and lots of
religous communes? How come even here in the good ole USA there are
fundimentalist christian communes?

i should have clarified. this issue has come up before.
countries under commnist govt's (iow, communism without choice) vs.
voluntary organizations
i was referring to the former, of course
violent acts by voluntary associations with communist elements are certainly
very rare. jonestown being one example


The answer is, the two things have nothing to do with each other. It
just that some corrupt governments did not want to share power with
religous groups and subdued them. Communism does not promote atheism,
nor atheism promote communism.

communist govt's are nearly universally atheist.

Please file that and try living a good moral truthful life from now
on.

i am not filing anything. you are correct in that i should have specified
communist REGIMES, as opposed to people who choose, as a subset of a free
society with private ownership etc. to voluntarily pool
the former is evil, and inarguably the most murderous type of govt. in the
20th century.
whit


.



User: "Kate "

Title: Re: KERRY CAMPAIGN ADMITS HE MAY HAVE FAKED HIS WAR MEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 07 Sep 2004 08:03:06 PM
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 18:40:10 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:

"Bill Darnell" <bdarnell@N0SPAM.0RG> wrote in message \

I also find it interesting that for liberals, who demonized the Viet
Nam war and portrayed the soldiers who fought in that war as
drug-crazed, psychopaths as depicted in movies like Platoon, etc., now
claim that the war was a noble one.


Just to point out, Platoon was written and directed by Oliver Stone.
Stone, who volunteered for service as an infantryman in Vietnam,
served with both the 25th Infantry Division and the 1st Cavalry
Division.

Platoon was based on the things he himself saw during his tour of
duty. A tour where he earned both the Bronze Star and a Purple Heart
(he was shot in the neck.)

Well you know he must not have deserved a purple heart unless his head
was completely shot off and then he must have done it himself to get
out early.
.



User: "quibbler"

Title: Re: KERRY CAMPAIGN ADMITS HE MAY HAVE FAKED HIS WAR MEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 07 Sep 2004 04:09:23 PM
In article <p7qqj0t9c8abv8ecn3vq2sedapjm0aj72a@4ax.com>,
bdarnell@N0SPAM.0RG says...

KERRY CAMPAIGN ADMITS HE MAY HAVE FAKED HIS WAR
MEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


John Kerry, another insincere, tax and spend liberal from
Massachusetts, faked his first purple heart (we know all of his medals
were faked). His campaign finally admitted so.

Then where is the precise quote stating so. Oh, yeah, there isn't one.
You're just a lying sack of *****. You hate the truth and are a
traitorous NAZI ***** who supports the treasonous Bush crime family.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
.
User: "Bob Harrington rch at blarg dot net"

Title: Re: KERRY CAMPAIGN ADMITS HE MAY HAVE FAKED HIS WAR MEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 09 Sep 2004 07:47:48 AM
quibbler wrote:

In article <p7qqj0t9c8abv8ecn3vq2sedapjm0aj72a@4ax.com>,
bdarnell@N0SPAM.0RG says...

KERRY CAMPAIGN ADMITS HE MAY HAVE FAKED HIS WAR
MEDALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


John Kerry, another insincere, tax and spend liberal from
Massachusetts, faked his first purple heart (we know all of his
medals were faked). His campaign finally admitted so.


Then where is the precise quote stating so. Oh, yeah, there isn't
one. You're just a lying sack of *****. You hate the truth and are a
traitorous NAZI ***** who supports the treasonous Bush crime family.

You blow your dad with that mouth?
.



User: "Bill Darnell"

Title: Michael Moore shows up at convention with armed guards!!!!!!!!!!! 07 Sep 2004 02:56:24 AM
Michael Moore shows up at convention with armed guards!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael Moore, who says that he hates guns, showed up at the
Republican Convention with his armed guards. It seems that Michael
Moore thinks that nobody, except him, should have access to firearms.
The same person that brought us a movie about how evil guns are has
his own armed guards to follow him around so that he can shoot anyone
who gives him a hard time. Michael Moore is a typical liberal
hypocrite! Its loads of laughs how rich liberals want gun control for
everyone except themselves.
----------
Michael Moore HATES America!!!!!!!
.
User: "gatt"

Title: Re: Michael Moore shows up at convention with armed guards!!!!!!!!!!! 07 Sep 2004 12:04:00 PM
"Bill Darnell" <bdarnell@N0SPAM.0RG> wrote in message

The same person that brought us a movie about how evil guns are has
his own armed guards to follow him around so that he can shoot anyone
who gives him a hard time.

You're lying again, Darnell. Moore's an asshat, but BfC had nothing to do
with how evil guns are. In fact, he dismantled, rather than reenforced,
that theory. Specifically he showed that there are more firearms per
capita in Canada than there are in the US and showed that Canada has a lower
crime rate.
<Michael Moore is a typical liberal hypocrite!
He is, but you're a liar. That makes BOTH of your opinions WORTHLESS!
-c
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