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User: "J Young"
Date: 13 Sep 2005 10:22:17 AM
Object: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home
In addition to all the disaster relief around the world and AIDS
hospices in countries with high infection rates, another area where the
RCC never gets credit is the foster care systems. These type of abuses
NEVER happen when under the auspices of the Church, only local
governments; which by coincidence are usually run by the liberal left.
http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1931222005
11 disabled children found in cages at foster home
ELEVEN disabled children have been found locked in cages less than
three feet high in the home of their foster parents in Ohio.
Police discovered the children - who range in age from one to 14 and
have various disabilities, including autism - after raiding the home
near the city of Wakeman.
The children were found in cages built into the walls of the house and
had been left with no blankets or pillows.
The cages were rigged with alarms that sounded if opened. The children
told authorities they slept in the cages at night. Doors to some of the
cages were blocked with heavy furniture.
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User: "Paul Duca"

Title: Re: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home 13 Sep 2005 10:31:05 PM
Yes...isn't it wonderful of the Catholic God to let them come into
the world and wind up in cages, so the J Youngs can feel good about letting
them out?
Paul
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User: "Elf M. Sternberg"

Title: Re: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home 13 Sep 2005 12:03:49 PM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:

In addition to all the disaster relief around the world and AIDS
hospices in countries with high infection rates, another area where the
RCC never gets credit is the foster care systems. These type of abuses
NEVER happen when under the auspices of the Church, only local
governments; which by coincidence are usually run by the liberal left.

Of *course* these things never happen. Churches around the
world aren't going broke dealing with sexual abuse.
Elf
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User: "Jeff Welch"

Title: Re: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home 13 Sep 2005 11:51:14 AM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1126624937.344850.310910@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

In addition to all the disaster relief around the world and AIDS
hospices in countries with high infection rates, another area where the
RCC never gets credit is the foster care systems. These type of abuses
NEVER happen when under the auspices of the Church, only local
governments; which by coincidence are usually run by the liberal left.

Abuses never (or NEVER) happen when children are under the care of a Church?
Do tell. There's a few thousand victims of abuse by clergy members who
would probably disagree.
And are you seriously claiming that local governments are "usually run by
the liberal left"?
How do you figure?
-Jeff
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User: "Gabby"

Title: Re: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home 13 Sep 2005 04:17:13 PM

"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1126624937.344850.310910@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

In addition to all the disaster relief around the world and AIDS
hospices in countries with high infection rates, another area where the
RCC never gets credit is the foster care systems. These type of abuses
NEVER happen when under the auspices of the Church, only local
governments; which by coincidence are usually run by the liberal left.

Oh yeah? How about this one:
National Post, Christie Blatchford, Saturday, February 22, 2003
TORONTO - Two convicted child abusers won custody of their four young
grandchildren even as information about the pair's criminal records was
buried in the files of the Catholic Children's Aid Society of Toronto.
The National Post has confirmed that only after one of those grandchildren,
five-year-old Jeffrey Baldwin, died an emaciated shell of a little boy last
Nov. 30 and a Toronto Police homicide investigation began, did the
child-welfare agency belatedly discover the critical documents in their own
system.
And this one:
"Most recently, it was another CCAS client, Jordan Heikamp, who came to
public attention.
The baby was just five weeks old when in the early summer of 1997 he starved
to death at a native women's shelter chock-a-block with helping
professionals while under the ostensible supervision of an agency social
worker.
Both that worker, Angie Martin, and Jordan's teenage mother, Renee Heikamp,
were charged criminally in the baby's death, but were later discharged after
a preliminary hearing.
But both women testified at length at an eight-week coroner's inquest that
examined Jordan's death in the spring of 2001. Of all the evidence the jury
heard, perhaps the most alarming was Ms. Martin's revelation that she
believed she could never "impose" her will on the teenage mother, and her
apparent belief that it was the young mother, and not baby Jordan, who was
her client.
Three years before Jordan's death, another tiny charge of the CCAS was in
the headlines.
This was baby Sara Podniewicz, who died gasping for breath, her lungs filled
with pneumonia, in her car seat at the age of six months and 10 days.
Sara had endured 24 broken bones -- including 16 fractured ribs, broken legs
and a broken arm -- at the hands of her crack-addled parents, Michael
Podniewicz and Lisa Olsen, who were, two years later, convicted of
second-degree murder in the baby's death.
The trial jurors learned that though Podniewicz had been convicted earlier
of aggravated assault on the couple's first child, Mikey Jr. -- an attack
that left the infant deaf, blind, partially paralyzed and with the permanent
mental age of 10 weeks -- he was nonetheless allowed, after his release from
prison, to move back in with his wife, then pregnant with Sara, and their
other three children.
A condition of his parole was that he not be alone with his children unless
accompanied by a "responsible adult," yet somehow, with the approval of both
his parole officer and the CCAS, Olsen was approved as that person."
They do a great job, don't they?
http://www.canadiancrc.com/articles/Custody_Granted/Nat_Post_custody_granted_to_child_abusers%2023FEB03.htm
Gabby
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User: "--sexkitten--"

Title: Re: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home 13 Sep 2005 06:12:01 PM
Gabby wrote:

"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1126624937.344850.310910@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


In addition to all the disaster relief around the world and AIDS
hospices in countries with high infection rates, another area where the
RCC never gets credit is the foster care systems. These type of abuses
NEVER happen when under the auspices of the Church, only local
governments; which by coincidence are usually run by the liberal left.



Oh yeah? How about this one:


National Post, Christie Blatchford, Saturday, February 22, 2003
TORONTO - Two convicted child abusers won custody of their four young
grandchildren even as information about the pair's criminal records was
buried in the files of the Catholic Children's Aid Society of Toronto.
The National Post has confirmed that only after one of those grandchildren,
five-year-old Jeffrey Baldwin, died an emaciated shell of a little boy last
Nov. 30 and a Toronto Police homicide investigation began, did the
child-welfare agency belatedly discover the critical documents in their own
system.

And this one:

"Most recently, it was another CCAS client, Jordan Heikamp, who came to
public attention.
The baby was just five weeks old when in the early summer of 1997 he starved
to death at a native women's shelter chock-a-block with helping
professionals while under the ostensible supervision of an agency social
worker.
Both that worker, Angie Martin, and Jordan's teenage mother, Renee Heikamp,
were charged criminally in the baby's death, but were later discharged after
a preliminary hearing.
But both women testified at length at an eight-week coroner's inquest that
examined Jordan's death in the spring of 2001. Of all the evidence the jury
heard, perhaps the most alarming was Ms. Martin's revelation that she
believed she could never "impose" her will on the teenage mother, and her
apparent belief that it was the young mother, and not baby Jordan, who was
her client.

Three years before Jordan's death, another tiny charge of the CCAS was in
the headlines.
This was baby Sara Podniewicz, who died gasping for breath, her lungs filled
with pneumonia, in her car seat at the age of six months and 10 days.
Sara had endured 24 broken bones -- including 16 fractured ribs, broken legs
and a broken arm -- at the hands of her crack-addled parents, Michael
Podniewicz and Lisa Olsen, who were, two years later, convicted of
second-degree murder in the baby's death.
The trial jurors learned that though Podniewicz had been convicted earlier
of aggravated assault on the couple's first child, Mikey Jr. -- an attack
that left the infant deaf, blind, partially paralyzed and with the permanent
mental age of 10 weeks -- he was nonetheless allowed, after his release from
prison, to move back in with his wife, then pregnant with Sara, and their
other three children.
A condition of his parole was that he not be alone with his children unless
accompanied by a "responsible adult," yet somehow, with the approval of both
his parole officer and the CCAS, Olsen was approved as that person."

They do a great job, don't they?
http://www.canadiancrc.com/articles/Custody_Granted/Nat_Post_custody_granted_to_child_abusers%2023FEB03.htm

Gabby

Damned liberals! :D


.



User: "--sexkitten--"

Title: Re: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home 13 Sep 2005 11:38:28 AM
J Young wrote:

In addition to all the disaster relief around the world and AIDS
hospices in countries with high infection rates, another area where the
RCC never gets credit is the foster care systems. These type of abuses
NEVER happen when under the auspices of the Church,

HA HA HA!!!!
No, the RCC has sex with them instead.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
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User: "Cracklin"

Title: Re: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home 13 Sep 2005 08:38:39 PM
"--sexkitten--" <ladyhawk_twoFILTER@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126629671_27785@spool6-east.superfeed.net...

J Young wrote:

In addition to all the disaster relief around the world and AIDS
hospices in countries with high infection rates, another area where the
RCC never gets credit is the foster care systems. These type of abuses
NEVER happen when under the auspices of the Church,


HA HA HA!!!!
No, the RCC has sex with them instead.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

===========================
I remember seeing a show on TV some years ago all about how the orphans were
abused by the priests in charge of them. The abuse included sexual abuse.
They also abused pregnant single young women giving their children up for
adoption no matter how the woman felt about it.
--
CR......
http://silentlambs.org
www.freeminds.org
~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~*
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User: "nJb"

Title: Re: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home 13 Sep 2005 11:50:09 PM
J Young wrote:

In addition to all the disaster relief around the world and AIDS
hospices in countries with high infection rates, another area where the
RCC never gets credit is the foster care systems. These type of abuses
NEVER happen when under the auspices of the Church, only local
governments; which by coincidence are usually run by the liberal left.




http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1931222005

11 disabled children found in cages at foster home


ELEVEN disabled children have been found locked in cages less than
three feet high in the home of their foster parents in Ohio.

Police discovered the children - who range in age from one to 14 and
have various disabilities, including autism - after raiding the home
near the city of Wakeman.


The children were found in cages built into the walls of the house and
had been left with no blankets or pillows.

The cages were rigged with alarms that sounded if opened. The children
told authorities they slept in the cages at night. Doors to some of the
cages were blocked with heavy furniture.

Meet Duke. He's the other guy in my loony bin.
Good day.
--
Jack
Plonked by Native American
bobo1148atxmissiondotcom
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/xmissionbobo/
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User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home 13 Sep 2005 06:17:47 PM
On 13 Sep 2005 08:22:17 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following

In addition to all the disaster relief around the world and AIDS
hospices in countries with high infection rates, another area where the
RCC never gets credit is the foster care systems. These type of abuses
NEVER happen when under the auspices of the Church, only local
governments; which by coincidence are usually run by the liberal left.

Oh, really? Never heard of the Mother-Baby scandel in Ireland?
http://www.cmp.ucr.edu/flax/flax.new/article.html
The chilkdren these women were forced to give up were sold. Those who
didn't go to the highest bidder were used as slave labor, and denied
schooling.
All done by the Catholic Church.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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User: "Steve Knight"

Title: TQOTM Nomination - Was - Re: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home 13 Sep 2005 08:33:26 PM
On 13 Sep 2005 08:22:17 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:

In addition to all the disaster relief around the world and AIDS
hospices in countries with high infection rates, another area where the
RCC never gets credit is the foster care systems. These type of abuses
NEVER happen when under the auspices of the Church, only local
governments; which by coincidence are usually run by the liberal left.
http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1931222005

With blinders so fucking long, how do you support your head?
Oh... Set them on a choir boy.
Seconds?
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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User: "Attila"

Title: Re: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home 13 Sep 2005 02:20:03 PM
On 13 Sep 2005 08:22:17 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<1126624937.344850.310910@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
More off topic spam.
.

User: "Daedalus"

Title: Re: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home 13 Sep 2005 02:33:36 PM
On 13 Sep 2005 08:22:17 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>,
wrote:

In addition to all the disaster relief around the world and AIDS
hospices in countries with high infection rates, another area where the
RCC never gets credit is the foster care systems. These type of abuses
NEVER happen when under the auspices of the Church, only local
governments; which by coincidence are usually run by the liberal left.


Now you had to know exactly what sort of response you would get when
you posted this really stupid statrement.
Kind of obvious trolling, don't yo think?
Jade



http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1931222005

11 disabled children found in cages at foster home


ELEVEN disabled children have been found locked in cages less than
three feet high in the home of their foster parents in Ohio.

Police discovered the children - who range in age from one to 14 and
have various disabilities, including autism - after raiding the home
near the city of Wakeman.


The children were found in cages built into the walls of the house and
had been left with no blankets or pillows.

The cages were rigged with alarms that sounded if opened. The children
told authorities they slept in the cages at night. Doors to some of the
cages were blocked with heavy furniture.

.
User: "LC"

Title: Re: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home 13 Sep 2005 03:21:46 PM
"Daedalus" <jade@my-deja.com> hit the nail on the head when he/she wrote in
message news:paaei19h5irbjueqkvaepscfe8cljf8b38@4ax.com...

On 13 Sep 2005 08:22:17 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>,
wrote:

In addition to all the disaster relief around the world and AIDS
hospices in countries with high infection rates, another area where the
RCC never gets credit is the foster care systems. These type of abuses
NEVER happen when under the auspices of the Church, only local
governments; which by coincidence are usually run by the liberal left.

Now you had to know exactly what sort of response you would get when
you posted this really stupid statrement.

And yet, insane "J" made this comical whine, when another poster offered the
same story, sans the ludicrous "opinion":
"I can't wait to see how many people that criticize me for cut and
pasting without comment will do the same to you. I have a feeling it's
all just hypocritical b.s.; it's WHAT you cut and paste that people
either object to or don't, not the fact that it's done. Call it Usenet
censorship."
From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Re: OT: Eleven kids found in cages in home
Date: 13 Sep 2005 10:08:28 -0700
Message-ID: <1126631308.840559.18000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>

Kind of obvious trolling, don't yo think?

Therein lies the core problem: "J" doesn't think.
Ever.
LC~ In "J's" bizarro version of existentialism, he trolls, and therefore he
is.
"Oh look! a mutation! It (J Young) used to just copy and paste, now it
copies, pastes and lies."
From: Bad Wolf <Badwolf@tardis.com>
Message-ID: <3gbae15pfq15f4m1i1u5a2hntvl799sfnj@4ax.com>
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User: "Daedalus"

Title: Re: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home 14 Sep 2005 10:45:32 AM
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:21:46 GMT, "LC" <LCain't@this.com>, wrote:


"Daedalus" <jade@my-deja.com> hit the nail on the head when he/she wrote in
message news:paaei19h5irbjueqkvaepscfe8cljf8b38@4ax.com...

On 13 Sep 2005 08:22:17 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>,
wrote:


In addition to all the disaster relief around the world and AIDS
hospices in countries with high infection rates, another area where the
RCC never gets credit is the foster care systems. These type of abuses
NEVER happen when under the auspices of the Church, only local
governments; which by coincidence are usually run by the liberal left.


Now you had to know exactly what sort of response you would get when
you posted this really stupid statrement.


And yet, insane "J" made this comical whine, when another poster offered the
same story, sans the ludicrous "opinion":

"I can't wait to see how many people that criticize me for cut and
pasting without comment will do the same to you. I have a feeling it's
all just hypocritical b.s.; it's WHAT you cut and paste that people
either object to or don't, not the fact that it's done. Call it Usenet
censorship."
From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Re: OT: Eleven kids found in cages in home
Date: 13 Sep 2005 10:08:28 -0700
Message-ID: <1126631308.840559.18000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>

Kind of obvious trolling, don't yo think?


Therein lies the core problem: "J" doesn't think.
Ever.

I believe you are right.


LC~ In "J's" bizarro version of existentialism, he trolls, and therefore he
is.

You'd think he would be somewhat good at it after all this time.
Jade


"Oh look! a mutation! It (J Young) used to just copy and paste, now it
copies, pastes and lies."
From: Bad Wolf <Badwolf@tardis.com>
Message-ID: <3gbae15pfq15f4m1i1u5a2hntvl799sfnj@4ax.com>




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User: "LC"

Title: Re: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home 14 Sep 2005 02:48:19 PM
"Daedalus" <jade@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:ibhgi1dj8ucjluendg39jpkprvboakikbj@4ax.com...

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:21:46 GMT, "LC" <LCain't@this.com>, wrote:

"Daedalus" <jade@my-deja.com> hit the nail on the head when he/she wrote
in message news:paaei19h5irbjueqkvaepscfe8cljf8b38@4ax.com...

On 13 Sep 2005 08:22:17 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>,
wrote:

In addition to all the disaster relief around the world and AIDS
hospices in countries with high infection rates, another area where the
RCC never gets credit is the foster care systems. These type of abuses
NEVER happen when under the auspices of the Church, only local
governments; which by coincidence are usually run by the liberal left.

Now you had to know exactly what sort of response you would get when
you posted this really stupid statrement.

And yet, insane "J" made this comical whine, when another poster offered
the same story, sans the ludicrous "opinion":
"I can't wait to see how many people that criticize me for cut and
pasting without comment will do the same to you. I have a feeling it's
all just hypocritical b.s.; it's WHAT you cut and paste that people
either object to or don't, not the fact that it's done. Call it Usenet
censorship."
From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Re: OT: Eleven kids found in cages in home
Date: 13 Sep 2005 10:08:28 -0700
Message-ID: <1126631308.840559.18000@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>

Kind of obvious trolling, don't yo think?

Therein lies the core problem: "J" doesn't think.
Ever.

I believe you are right.

Believe it.

LC~ In "J's" bizarro version of existentialism, he trolls, and therefore
he is.

You'd think he would be somewhat good at it after all this time.
Jade

Think Einstein's definition of 'insanity': Doing the same thing over and
over, but expecting different results.
'nuff said...<g>

"Oh look! a mutation! It (J Young) used to just copy and paste, now it
copies, pastes and lies."
From: Bad Wolf <Badwolf@tardis.com>
Message-ID: <3gbae15pfq15f4m1i1u5a2hntvl799sfnj@4ax.com>

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User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home 13 Sep 2005 02:51:12 PM
On 13 Sep 2005 08:22:17 -0700, in alt.atheism , "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> in
<1126624937.344850.310910@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:

In addition to all the disaster relief around the world and AIDS
hospices in countries with high infection rates, another area where the
RCC never gets credit is the foster care systems. These type of abuses
NEVER happen when under the auspices of the Church, only local
governments; which by coincidence are usually run by the liberal left.

How about the Magdalene Laundries?
http://www.netreach.net/~steed/magdalen.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/08/08/sunday/main567365.shtml
http://www.getunderground.com/underground/columns/article.cfm?Article_ID=1326
--
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Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
Genocide is news | Be A Witness
http://www.beawitness.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
www.darfurgenocide.org
Save Darfur.org :: Violence and Suffering in Sudan's Darfur Region
http://www.savedarfur.org/
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User: "Misleart Chuff"

Title: Re: 11 disabled children found in cages at foster home 13 Sep 2005 03:49:17 PM
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote
in message news:58bei1ddhsvkp98foffqlbaqroqv0cc06c@4ax.com...
: On 13 Sep 2005 08:22:17 -0700, in alt.atheism , "J Young"
: <youngopinions@aol.com> in
: <1126624937.344850.310910@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
:
: >In addition to all the disaster relief around the world and AIDS
: >hospices in countries with high infection rates, another area where
the
: >RCC never gets credit is the foster care systems. These type of
abuses
: >NEVER happen when under the auspices of the Church, only local
: >governments; which by coincidence are usually run by the liberal
left.
I wonder, have the clinics (or whatever label they have attached) that
that Motherfucking Theresa ran changed their tune? It would be nice,
but seems unlikely. That ***** Theresa a saint? Get real. She was a
self-serving, cold, unempathetic, sleaze...rather like J Young.
: How about the Magdalene Laundries?
:
: http://www.netreach.net/~steed/magdalen.html
:
: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/08/08/sunday/main567365.shtml
:
:
http://www.getunderground.com/underground/columns/article.cfm?Article_
ID=1326
Truly disturbing *****. The RCC as slavers. Delightful.
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