Religions > Atheism > 11th Circuit Considers Woman's Asylum Claim Based on China's Mandatory Birth Control Policy
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"J Young" |
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08 Aug 2005 09:15:29 AM |
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11th Circuit Considers Woman's Asylum Claim Based on China's Mandatory Birth Control Policy |
Escaping genocide is the cornerstone of the American policy of granting
political asylum. Let's see who the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) backs in
this one.
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1123146314832
11th Circuit Considers Woman's Asylum Claim Based on China's Mandatory
Birth Control Policy
08-05-2005
Feng Chai Yang said she kicked and screamed as Chinese government
officials and doctors implanted an intrauterine device in her body on
two occasions. Doctors also gave her what she believed was an
experimental injection intended to sterilize her. Yang was dragged from
her home to a hospital for the procedures required under China's
one-child policy.
The question of whether Yang's experience makes her eligible for
political asylum in the United States was before the 11th U.S. Circuit
Court of Appeals last week.
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: 11th Circuit Considers Woman's Asylum Claim Based on China's Mandatory Birth Control Policy |
09 Aug 2005 01:29:50 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Escaping genocide is the cornerstone of the American policy of granting
political asylum. Let's see who the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) backs in
this one.
What genocide? I'm in favor of her asylum, because her choice is being
ignored by the scum that run the PRC. (But what do I know, since I've never
been part of that strawman you're hopelessly in love with? If I was a
liberal, you'd think I'd vote for more than one Democrat in 32 years of
voting.)
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chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Conspiracy of Doves" |
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| Title: Re: 11th Circuit Considers Woman's Asylum Claim Based on China's Mandatory Birth Control Policy |
08 Aug 2005 12:08:30 PM |
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Apparently you are dumb enough to think that allowing women to choose
abortion is no different from performing an abortion on them or
sterilizing them against their will.
What part of the term 'pro-choice' do you not understand?
I am willing to bet that you are genuinely shocked that we would side
with the woman, aren't you? You believe that just because we think
abortion should be allowed, that we believe everyone should have one.
You can't wrap your tiny little mind around the concept of 'civil
rights'. You can't understand that it isn't abortion that we are in
favor of, it is the ability of people to live their lives any way they
choose.
You never made a choice in your life. Everything you do and think is
dictated to you by your religion, so you can't comprehend how important
the right to choose is to those of us who DO control our own minds and
lives. Remember that it is the exact same civil rights that we fight
for that allow YOU to practice the religion that you have sacrificed
your free will to.
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| User: "BOB" |
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| Title: Re: 11th Circuit Considers Woman's Asylum Claim Based on China's Mandatory Birth Control Policy |
08 Aug 2005 12:16:56 PM |
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"Conspiracy of Doves" <mark_dp73@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1123520910.486187.127540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Apparently you are dumb enough to think that allowing women to choose
abortion is no different from performing an abortion on them or
sterilizing them against their will.
What part of the term 'pro-choice' do you not understand?
I am willing to bet that you are genuinely shocked that we would side
with the woman, aren't you? You believe that just because we think
abortion should be allowed, that we believe everyone should have one.
You can't wrap your tiny little mind around the concept of 'civil
rights'. You can't understand that it isn't abortion that we are in
favor of, it is the ability of people to live their lives any way they
choose.
It's called the "Taliban wannabee" syndrome. Most anti-choice loons
suffer from it.
You never made a choice in your life. Everything you do and think is
dictated to you by your religion, so you can't comprehend how important
the right to choose is to those of us who DO control our own minds and
lives. Remember that it is the exact same civil rights that we fight
for that allow YOU to practice the religion that you have sacrificed
your free will to.
Faith is faith in spite of facts.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: 11th Circuit Considers Woman's Asylum Claim Based on China's Mandatory Birth Control Policy |
08 Aug 2005 10:38:52 AM |
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In episode <1123510529.508055.128520@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, J
Young burst into the room and exclaimed:
Escaping genocide is the cornerstone of the American policy of granting
political asylum. Let's see who the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) backs in
this one.
This case doesn't fit the definition of genocide.
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: 11th Circuit Considers Woman's Asylum Claim Based on China's Mandatory Birth Control Policy |
09 Aug 2005 10:44:49 AM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Escaping genocide is the cornerstone of the American policy of granting
political asylum. Let's see who the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) backs in
this one.
It is the Radical Religious Reich which in favor of this kind of
government force. The Catholic Church is favor of this kind of
force.
Not liberals.
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1123146314832
11th Circuit Considers Woman's Asylum Claim Based on China's Mandatory
Birth Control Policy
08-05-2005
Feng Chai Yang said she kicked and screamed as Chinese government
officials and doctors implanted an intrauterine device in her body on
two occasions. Doctors also gave her what she believed was an
experimental injection intended to sterilize her. Yang was dragged from
her home to a hospital for the procedures required under China's
one-child policy.
The question of whether Yang's experience makes her eligible for
political asylum in the United States was before the 11th U.S. Circuit
Court of Appeals last week.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: 11th Circuit Considers Woman's Asylum Claim Based on China'sMandatory Birth Control Policy |
08 Aug 2005 11:27:02 AM |
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J Young wrote:
Escaping genocide is the cornerstone of the American policy of granting
political asylum. Let's see who the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) backs in
this one.
Anyone who supports a woman's right to choose would be appalled at a
government forcing itself on someone's body in this fashion.
My questions back at you is: if it is a valid asylum reason for a woman to
flee in order to protect her right to have a child in the face of
government opposition, is it also a valid asylum reason for a woman to flee
in order to protect her right NOT to have a child in the face of government
opposition? If it is morally reprehensible for the Chinese government to
sterilize a woman who wants to have children, is it also morally
reprehensible for the US government (or the government of one of its
constituent states) to force a woman who does not want to have a child to
carry it to term?
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1123146314832
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"It is necessary to the happiness of man that he be
mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not
consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists
in professing to believe what one does not believe. It
is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may
so express it, that mental lying has produced in society.
When man has so far corrupted and prostituted the
chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional
belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared
himself for the commission of every other crime."
- Thomas Paine, "The Age of Reason"
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: 11th Circuit Considers Woman's Asylum Claim Based on China's Mandatory Birth Control Policy |
08 Aug 2005 08:19:19 PM |
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"Gregory Gadow" <techbear@serv.net> wrote in message
news:42F787D6.8C93BB3B@serv.net...
J Young wrote:
Escaping genocide is the cornerstone of the American policy of granting
political asylum. Let's see who the LLL (Looney Liberal Left) backs in
this one.
Anyone who supports a woman's right to choose would be appalled at a
government forcing itself on someone's body in this fashion.
I still can't believe the Chinese are still doing this.
I have heard horror stories from a Chinese woman, up to & including the
murder of the doctor atthe hands of the woman who didn't want her pregnancy
abported. And she did it knowing she would be killed - she didn't want to
live.
Susan
My questions back at you is: if it is a valid asylum reason for a woman to
flee in order to protect her right to have a child in the face of
government opposition, is it also a valid asylum reason for a woman to
flee
in order to protect her right NOT to have a child in the face of
government
opposition? If it is morally reprehensible for the Chinese government to
sterilize a woman who wants to have children, is it also morally
reprehensible for the US government (or the government of one of its
constituent states) to force a woman who does not want to have a child to
carry it to term?
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1123146314832
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"It is necessary to the happiness of man that he be
mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not
consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists
in professing to believe what one does not believe. It
is impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may
so express it, that mental lying has produced in society.
When man has so far corrupted and prostituted the
chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional
belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared
himself for the commission of every other crime."
- Thomas Paine, "The Age of Reason"
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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| Title: Re: 11th Circuit Considers Woman's Asylum Claim Based on China's Mandatory Birth Control Policy |
08 Aug 2005 08:39:20 PM |
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2005 21:19:19 -0400, Susan Cohen wrote
(in message <rwTJe.2909$0d.2339@trnddc02>):
I still can't believe the Chinese are still doing this.
Worry about the Jews preoccupation with baby dicks. :o)
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: 11th Circuit Considers Woman's Asylum Claim Based on China'sMandatory Birth Control Policy |
08 Aug 2005 09:58:29 PM |
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in article 1123510529.508055.128520@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 8/8/05 10:15 AM:
Escaping genocide is the cornerstone of the American policy of granting
political asylum.
As if you WANT to let in millions of slant-eyed women desiring
large families?
Paul
Oh, and why didn't America's population jump by several million
during the 1940's, if we care so much about people escaping genocide?
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: 11th Circuit Considers Woman's Asylum Claim Based on China'sMandatory Birth Control Policy |
08 Aug 2005 11:33:49 PM |
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"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:BF1D9415.E138%p.duca@comcast.net...
in article 1123510529.508055.128520@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, J Young
at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 8/8/05 10:15 AM:
Escaping genocide is the cornerstone of the American policy of granting
political asylum.
As if you WANT to let in millions of slant-eyed women desiring
large families?
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We already have. Just take a walk through any city's China Town and see for
yourself. Most are supported by husbands. They don't jump right on
welfare.......
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because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear."
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: 11th Circuit Considers Woman's Asylum Claim Based on China'sMandatory Birth Control Policy |
08 Aug 2005 10:14:25 PM |
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"Paul Duca" <p.duca@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:BF1D9415.E138%p.duca@comcast.net...
in article 1123510529.508055.128520@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, J Young
at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 8/8/05 10:15 AM:
Escaping genocide is the cornerstone of the American policy of granting
political asylum.
As if you WANT to let in millions of slant-eyed women desiring
large families?
I guarantee you he's looking at the idea of poor, desperate women who can't
speak English all that well being a better bet for him to hoodwink.
Susan
Paul
Oh, and why didn't America's population jump by several million
during the 1940's, if we care so much about people escaping genocide?
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