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"buckeye" |
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11 Jan 2008 05:23:33 AM |
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14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
11.15.07
Mandatory Moment of Silence Blocked!
http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/11/15/mandatory-moment-of-silence-blocked/
01.10.08
Dawn Sherman Featured in the Chicago Tribune
http://friendlyatheist.com/
The court decision
http://www.robsherman.com/advocacy/Gettleman071115.pdf
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
12 Jan 2008 11:06:09 AM |
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:52:37 -0500, in alt.atheism
LibertySR <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in
<LradnWdkw4DLbRXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com>:
Free Lunch wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:16:46 -0500, in alt.atheism
LibertySR <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in
<LradnW9kw4BzehXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com>:
Phlip wrote:
...However, back when I had to do that fucking thing, I always meditated
on "Gee it's fun to be used as a political football, so evil politicians
can exploit our single-issue voters, and trick them into voting against
their own interests!"
Even if true it's hardly a legal justification supporting an injunction
in this case.
Please provide an appropriate citation to show that the judge was in
error on the injunction.
I don't have a citation, I have my reasoning. The old law was no more
specific than the the new one, yet has not been found to violate the
vagueness principle. What's changed?
You assume that the old law would meet current First Amendment
standards.
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| User: "LibertySR" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
12 Jan 2008 11:13:56 AM |
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Free Lunch wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:52:37 -0500, in alt.atheism
LibertySR <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in
<LradnWdkw4DLbRXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com>:
Free Lunch wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:16:46 -0500, in alt.atheism
LibertySR <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in
<LradnW9kw4BzehXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com>:
Phlip wrote:
...However, back when I had to do that fucking thing, I always meditated
on "Gee it's fun to be used as a political football, so evil politicians
can exploit our single-issue voters, and trick them into voting against
their own interests!"
Even if true it's hardly a legal justification supporting an injunction
in this case.
Please provide an appropriate citation to show that the judge was in
error on the injunction.
I don't have a citation, I have my reasoning. The old law was no more
specific than the the new one, yet has not been found to violate the
vagueness principle. What's changed?
You assume that the old law would meet current First Amendment
standards.
Yes, I do. And for nearly forty years that assumption has not been
proven wrong.
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| User: "William Wingstedt" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
12 Jan 2008 11:30:57 AM |
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:43:22 -0500, LibertySR <nosend@comcast.net>
wrote:
buckeye wrote:
11.15.07
Mandatory Moment of Silence Blocked!
http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/11/15/mandatory-moment-of-silence-blocked/
01.10.08
Dawn Sherman Featured in the Chicago Tribune
http://friendlyatheist.com/
The court decision
http://www.robsherman.com/advocacy/Gettleman071115.pdf
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional prayer, i.e. a
desire to have freedom **from** religion, rather than one of religion.
Every moment of every day is available for prayer. You can't tell me
that children in school can't find a moment during the day to pray.
This "Moment of Silence" malarkey is just a waste of public resources,
both in its institution and the requisite disestablishment.
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| User: "3921 Dead" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
12 Jan 2008 11:11:06 AM |
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:43:22 -0500, LibertySR <nosend@comcast.net>
wrote:
buckeye wrote:
11.15.07
Mandatory Moment of Silence Blocked!
http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/11/15/mandatory-moment-of-silence-blocked/
01.10.08
Dawn Sherman Featured in the Chicago Tribune
http://friendlyatheist.com/
The court decision
http://www.robsherman.com/advocacy/Gettleman071115.pdf
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional prayer, i.e. a
desire to have freedom **from** religion, rather than one of religion.
It looks more like the Religious right tried to exploit the moment of
silent prayer and reflection and change it into something more along
the lines of making the kids start praying:
The original statute stated that:
In each public school classroom the teacher in charge may observe a
brief
period of silence with the participation of all the pupils therein
assembled at the
opening of every school day. This period shall not be conducted as a
religious
exercise but shall be an opportunity for silent prayer or for silent
reflection on the
anticipated activities of the day. (Emphasis added.)
In 1990, the Illinois legislature amended the statute, 105 ILCS 20/1,
to title the law “The
Silent Reflection Act.” In 2003, the legislature again amended the
statute to change its name to
“The Silent Reflection and Student Prayer Act.” The amendment also
added the following
substantive section, codified as 105 ILCS 20/5:
Sec. 5. Student prayer. In order that the right of every student to
the free
exercise of religion is guaranteed within the public schools and that
each student
has the right to not be subject to pressure from the State either to
engage in or to
refrain from religious observation on public school grounds, students
in the public
schools may voluntarily engage in individually initiated,
non-disruptive prayer
that, consistent with the Free Exercise and Establishment Clauses of
the United
States and Illinois Constitutions, is not sponsored, promoted or
endorsed in any
manner by the school or any school employee.
In October 2007, the legislature amended the law once again to make
the period of
silence mandatory. The statute now reads, in relevant part, “In each
public school classroom the
teacher shall observe a brief period of silence with the participation
of all the pupils therein
assembled at the opening of every school day.”
--
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An ex-Republican.
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become. I just can’t. It just makes me sick to think all those years
of supporting this party, and this is what it has become. Even if you
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| User: "3921 Dead" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
12 Jan 2008 10:11:18 AM |
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:43:22 -0500, LibertySR <nosend@comcast.net>
wrote:
buckeye wrote:
11.15.07
Mandatory Moment of Silence Blocked!
http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/11/15/mandatory-moment-of-silence-blocked/
01.10.08
Dawn Sherman Featured in the Chicago Tribune
http://friendlyatheist.com/
The court decision
http://www.robsherman.com/advocacy/Gettleman071115.pdf
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional prayer, i.e. a
desire to have freedom **from** religion, rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
--
What do you call a Republican with a conscience?
An ex-Republican.
http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=8827 (From Yang, AthD (h.c)
"I simply can not believe this is what the Republican party has
become. I just can’t. It just makes me sick to think all those years
of supporting this party, and this is what it has become. Even if you
don’t like the S-Chip expansion, it is hard to deny what Republicans
are- a bunch of bitter, nasty, petty, snarling, sneering, vicious
thugs, peering through people’s windows so they can make fun of their
misfortune.
I’m registering Independent tomorrow."
Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
For the finest in liberal/leftist commentary,
http://www.zeppscommentaries.com
For news feed (free, 10-20 articles a day)
Zepps_News-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
For essays (donations accepted, 2 articles/week)
Zepps_essays-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
a.a. #2211 -- Bryan Zepp Jamieson
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| User: "LibertySR" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
12 Jan 2008 10:25:30 AM |
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3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional prayer, i.e. a
desire to have freedom **from** religion, rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
.... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
14 Jan 2008 10:22:21 AM |
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"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional prayer, i.e. a
desire to have freedom **from** religion, rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of silence at
school? Funny, but I thought students were there to learn.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
14 Jan 2008 12:45:20 PM |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional prayer, i.e. a
desire to have freedom **from** religion, rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
<PIGGYBACKING>
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
Nobody's preventing you from practicing your religion, Sport. We're
just preventing you from forcing the rest of us to stand around with
our thumbs up our arses while you practice it.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of silence at
school? Funny, but I thought students were there to learn.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
14 Jan 2008 04:42:18 PM |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional prayer, i.e. a
desire to have freedom **from** religion, rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of silence at
school? Funny, but I thought students were there to learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
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| User: "Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
14 Jan 2008 04:53:25 PM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional
prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from** religion,
rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there to
learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and turn
them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in more
bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
--
Terry Austin
"There's no law west of the internet."
- Nick Stump
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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15 Jan 2008 08:08:43 AM |
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"Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A25977951641taustingmail@216.168.3.64...
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional
prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from** religion,
rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there to
learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and turn
them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in more
bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
Excuse me? He's not a christian.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
16 Jan 2008 02:45:40 AM |
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:08:43 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A25977951641taustingmail@216.168.3.64...
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional
prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from** religion,
rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there to
learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and turn
them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in more
bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
Excuse me? He's not a christian.
I am pretty sure that I am not, but with *some* of the more liberal
definitions of "Christian", vis those that eliminate the belief in
Jesus, and rely wholly on good deeds and a wholesome attitude to lie,
I may well be a "Christian", whatever the ***** that may mean!
But I have yet to have a coherent and comprehensive definition of same
plonked on my desk.
I can narrow that down: I have yet to hear a coherent definition of
what constitutes an Xtian, and what does not.
Ever.
Perhaps the aptly nymmed: "Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" might be
the very first person in history to proffer same?
What odds would you give on that?
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| User: "Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
16 Jan 2008 11:29:05 AM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:5mgro397fdcks867jitpkl42ot4kq7gaha@4ax.com:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:08:43 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote in
message news:Xns9A25977951641taustingmail@216.168.3.64...
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional
prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from** religion,
rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there
to learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and
turn them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in
more bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
Excuse me? He's not a christian.
I am pretty sure that I am not, but with *some* of the more
liberal definitions of "Christian", vis those that eliminate the
belief in Jesus, and rely wholly on good deeds and a wholesome
attitude to lie, I may well be a "Christian", whatever the *****
that may mean!
It would, of course, by typical of the atheist lies to believe that
only Christians can be sheeple. When, of course, by believing that
so universally, the atheists demonstrate themselves to be excatly
like what they hate.
There's a reason why Eric Hoffer wrote that the best place for a
cult to recruit is among their most vocal enemies. That reason
being, it's virtually impossible to hate something that is
fundamentally different from yourself.
--
Terry Austin
"There's no law west of the internet."
- Nick Stump
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| User: "Darrell Stec" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
15 Jan 2008 09:33:11 AM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A25977951641taustingmail@216.168.3.64...
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional
prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from** religion,
rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there to
learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and turn
them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in more
bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
Excuse me? He's not a christian.
It knows that. It is a card carrying Republican who trolls Usenet and
website forums. Look in the headers for other nonsense names of recent
vintage.
--
Later,
Darrell Stec
Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
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| User: "Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" |
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15 Jan 2008 11:22:14 AM |
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Darrell Stec <darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote in
news:478cd237$0$4973$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote
in message news:Xns9A25977951641taustingmail@216.168.3.64...
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional
prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from** religion,
rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there
to learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and
turn them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in
more bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
Excuse me? He's not a christian.
It knows that. It is a card carrying Republican who trolls
Usenet and website forums. Look in the headers for other
nonsense names of recent vintage.
Man, the hook is set *deep*. You can't stop talking about me.
*Can't*. Any mention of me at all, and there you are, like an
overexited little puppy, piddling on the carpet.
--
Terry Austin
"There's no law west of the internet."
- Nick Stump
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
16 Jan 2008 02:46:20 AM |
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:33:11 -0500, Darrell Stec
<darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A25977951641taustingmail@216.168.3.64...
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional
prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from** religion,
rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there to
learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and turn
them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in more
bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
Excuse me? He's not a christian.
It knows that. It is a card carrying Republican who trolls Usenet and
website forums. Look in the headers for other nonsense names of recent
vintage.
Am I?
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
16 Jan 2008 08:42:07 AM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:33:11 -0500, Darrell Stec
<darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A25977951641taustingmail@216.168.3.64...
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional
prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from** religion,
rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there to
learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and turn
them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in more
bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
Excuse me? He's not a christian.
It knows that. It is a card carrying Republican who trolls Usenet and
website forums. Look in the headers for other nonsense names of recent
vintage.
Am I?
You realize I was writing about Umbrella?
--
Later,
Darrell Stec
Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
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| User: "Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
16 Jan 2008 11:30:38 AM |
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Darrell Stec <darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote in
news:478e17bf$0$24100$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:33:11 -0500, Darrell Stec
<darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote
in message news:Xns9A25977951641taustingmail@216.168.3.64...
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for
optional prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from**
religion, rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you
know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there
to learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and
turn them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in
more bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
Excuse me? He's not a christian.
It knows that. It is a card carrying Republican who trolls
Usenet and website forums. Look in the headers for other
nonsense names of recent vintage.
Am I?
You realize I was writing about Umbrella?
Of course you were. Since you can't deal with me straight up
without looking like a masturbating retard - cuz you are - you have
to talk about me, show your perverted sexual attraction to me, by
making ***** up.
Typical atheist: incapable of facing the truth.
*Just* like theists.
--
Terry Austin
"There's no law west of the internet."
- Nick Stump
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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16 Jan 2008 12:02:35 PM |
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On Jan 16, 5:30 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
<tausti...@gmail.com> wrote:
Darrell Stec <darrell_s...@webpagesorcery.com> wrote innews:478e17bf$0$24100$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:33:11 -0500, Darrell Stec
<darrell_s...@webpagesorcery.com> wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" <tausti...@gmail.com> wrote
in messagenews:Xns9A25977951641taustingmail@216.168.3.64...
Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nos...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for
optional prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from**
religion, rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you
know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there
to learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and
turn them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in
more bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
Excuse me? He's not a christian.
It knows that. It is a card carrying Republican who trolls
Usenet and website forums. Look in the headers for other
nonsense names of recent vintage.
Am I?
You realize I was writing about Umbrella?
Of course you were. Since you can't deal with me straight up
without looking like a masturbating retard - cuz you are - you have
to talk about me, show your perverted sexual attraction to me, by
making ***** up.
Typical atheist: incapable of facing the truth.
*Just* like theists.
--
Terry Austin
"There's no law west of the internet."
- Nick Stump
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Funny sig-line for a guy who recently claimed to be agnostic.
You are a liar as well as a gutless sissy.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
18 Jan 2008 02:56:10 PM |
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:02:35 -0800 (PST), Lucifer
<wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 16, 5:30 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
<tausti...@gmail.com> wrote:
Darrell Stec <darrell_s...@webpagesorcery.com> wrote innews:478e17bf$0$24100$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:33:11 -0500, Darrell Stec
<darrell_s...@webpagesorcery.com> wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" <tausti...@gmail.com> wrote
in messagenews:Xns9A25977951641taustingmail@216.168.3.64...
Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nos...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for
optional prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from**
religion, rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you
know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there
to learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and
turn them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in
more bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
Excuse me? He's not a christian.
It knows that. It is a card carrying Republican who trolls
Usenet and website forums. Look in the headers for other
nonsense names of recent vintage.
Am I?
You realize I was writing about Umbrella?
Of course you were. Since you can't deal with me straight up
without looking like a masturbating retard - cuz you are - you have
to talk about me, show your perverted sexual attraction to me, by
making ***** up.
Typical atheist: incapable of facing the truth.
*Just* like theists.
--
Terry Austin
"There's no law west of the internet."
- Nick Stump
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Funny sig-line for a guy who recently claimed to be agnostic.
You are a liar as well as a gutless sissy.
Terry Austin is as fundy as they come.
Outright deliberate lying comes with the territory.
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| User: "Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
18 Jan 2008 03:23:50 PM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:8i42p3he6q5hm2q1a9fvgi92qrilhf679j@4ax.com:
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:02:35 -0800 (PST), Lucifer
<wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 16, 5:30 pm, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
<tausti...@gmail.com> wrote:
Darrell Stec <darrell_s...@webpagesorcery.com> wrote
innews:478e17bf$0$24100$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:33:11 -0500, Darrell Stec
<darrell_s...@webpagesorcery.com> wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" <tausti...@gmail.com>
wrote in
messagenews:Xns9A25977951641taustingmail@216.168.3.64...
Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchy...@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nos...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for
optional prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom
**from** religion, rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you
know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in
public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory
moment of silence at school? Funny, but I thought
students were there to learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students,
and turn them in to productive members of society. Or,
to put in more bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
Excuse me? He's not a christian.
It knows that. It is a card carrying Republican who trolls
Usenet and website forums. Look in the headers for other
nonsense names of recent vintage.
Am I?
You realize I was writing about Umbrella?
Of course you were. Since you can't deal with me straight up
without looking like a masturbating retard - cuz you are - you
have to talk about me, show your perverted sexual attraction
to me, by making ***** up.
Typical atheist: incapable of facing the truth.
*Just* like theists.
--
Terry Austin
"There's no law west of the internet."
- Nick Stump
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Funny sig-line for a guy who recently claimed to be agnostic.
You are a liar as well as a gutless sissy.
Terry Austin is as fundy as they come.
Outright deliberate lying comes with the territory.
Dude, it's only a .sig. Really. Get over yourself.
(Not to mention, it's not at all complimentary to fundies, who are
almost universally criminals. Yet another demonstration of how
fucking *stupid* you are.)
--
Terry Austin
"There's no law west of the internet."
- Nick Stump
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
18 Jan 2008 02:55:23 PM |
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:42:07 -0500, Darrell Stec
<darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:33:11 -0500, Darrell Stec
<darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote:
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A25977951641taustingmail@216.168.3.64...
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional
prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from** religion,
rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there to
learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and turn
them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in more
bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
Excuse me? He's not a christian.
It knows that. It is a card carrying Republican who trolls Usenet and
website forums. Look in the headers for other nonsense names of recent
vintage.
Am I?
You realize I was writing about Umbrella?
I do now, thanks.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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14 Jan 2008 11:38:48 PM |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:53:25 -0000, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional
prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from** religion,
rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there to
learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and turn
them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in more
bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
WTF?
I am as far from being a "sheeple" as one could possibly hope to get,
you fucking moron.
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| User: "Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
15 Jan 2008 11:20:54 AM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:4mhoo3d8sfvfkikv02rdh7fgndv7bd1p2v@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:53:25 -0000, Gutless Umbrella Carrying
Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional
prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from** religion,
rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there to
learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and turn
them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in more
bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
WTF?
I am as far from being a "sheeple" as one could possibly hope to
get, you fucking moron.
Just what you were programed to say.
--
Terry Austin
"There's no law west of the internet."
- Nick Stump
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| User: "Darrell Stec" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
15 Jan 2008 09:30:26 AM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:53:25 -0000, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional
prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from** religion,
rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there to
learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and turn
them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in more
bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
WTF?
I am as far from being a "sheeple" as one could possibly hope to get,
you fucking moron.
The author is a nymshifting troll. It's been ridiculed on just about every
newsgroup and forum it participates on. And it has been here before under
other names. Check the full headers (most of which are faked.) None of
it's names are long lived and many start about Oct of 2007.
{Watch it attack me for having written this.}
--
Later,
Darrell Stec
Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
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| User: "Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
15 Jan 2008 11:21:23 AM |
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Darrell Stec <darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote in
news:478cd192$0$4973$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:53:25 -0000, Gutless Umbrella Carrying
Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional
prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from** religion,
rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there
to learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and turn
them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in more
bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
WTF?
I am as far from being a "sheeple" as one could possibly hope
to get, you fucking moron.
The author is a nymshifting troll. It's been ridiculed on just
about every newsgroup and forum it participates on. And it has
been here before under other names. Check the full headers
(most of which are faked.) None of it's names are long lived
and many start about Oct of 2007.
{Watch it attack me for having written this.}
Still trying to score, eh?
--
Terry Austin
"There's no law west of the internet."
- Nick Stump
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
16 Jan 2008 02:39:18 AM |
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:30:26 -0500, Darrell Stec
<darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:53:25 -0000, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional
prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from** religion,
rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there to
learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and turn
them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in more
bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
WTF?
I am as far from being a "sheeple" as one could possibly hope to get,
you fucking moron.
The author is a nymshifting troll. It's been ridiculed on just about every
newsgroup and forum it participates on. And it has been here before under
other names. Check the full headers (most of which are faked.) None of
it's names are long lived and many start about Oct of 2007.
{Watch it attack me for having written this.}
"It" has already began to fake posts as though they may have
originated from you, in the most transparently robotic manner.
It is patently simple to determine the difference:
Vapid nonsense, versus academic reality.
(And *don't* dare ask me which category it is that you "fall under"!)
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| User: "Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
16 Jan 2008 11:27:17 AM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:2fgro3d85f8nvm5l2nq427p3pvel54la2u@4ax.com:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:30:26 -0500, Darrell Stec
<darrell_stec@webpagesorcery.com> wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:53:25 -0000, Gutless Umbrella Carrying
Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for
optional prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from**
religion, rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you
know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there
to learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and
turn them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in
more bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
WTF?
I am as far from being a "sheeple" as one could possibly hope
to get, you fucking moron.
The author is a nymshifting troll. It's been ridiculed on just
about every newsgroup and forum it participates on. And it has
been here before under other names. Check the full headers
(most of which are faked.) None of it's names are long lived
and many start about Oct of 2007.
{Watch it attack me for having written this.}
"It" has already began to fake posts as though they may have
originated from you, in the most transparently robotic manner.
Care to offer a MessageID on that? Didn't think so.
It is patently simple to determine the difference:
Vapid nonsense, versus academic reality.
(And *don't* dare ask me which category it is that you "fall
under"!)
Heh.
--
Terry Austin
"There's no law west of the internet."
- Nick Stump
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
15 Jan 2008 09:08:28 AM |
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:08:48 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:53:25 -0000, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional
prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from** religion,
rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there to
learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and turn
them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in more
bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
WTF?
I am as far from being a "sheeple" as one could possibly hope to get,
you fucking moron.
Believe me, you're giving Terry *far* too much credit.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: 14 yr old stops Ill. Moment of Silence Law |
16 Jan 2008 02:35:27 AM |
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:08:28 -0500, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net>
wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:08:48 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:53:25 -0000, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy
<taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:49pno39u9ks9ua1ccphtbj0uot6l4vrple@4ax.com:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:22:21 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"LibertySR" <nosend@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:LradnWhkw4BhdBXanZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com...
3921 Dead wrote:
Seems to me this more about banning a moment for optional
prayer, i.e. a desire to have freedom **from** religion,
rather than one of religion.
We do have the right to be free OF religion too, you know.
... yes, but not by preventing its practice in public.
What does that have to do with having a mandatory moment of
silence at school? Funny, but I thought students were there to
learn.
When did that innovation begin?
Schools exist to provide teachers with jobs! ;)
No, historically, schools exist to socialize students, and turn
them in to productive members of society. Or, to put in more
bluntly, good little sheeple, like you.
WTF?
I am as far from being a "sheeple" as one could possibly hope to get,
you fucking moron.
Believe me, you're giving Terry *far* too much credit.
It is the ever optimistic streak in me.
Or is that in my underpants?
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