"Gospel Bretts" <Hallelujah@InJesusName.Amen> wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:08:24 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
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"AZ Nomad" <aznomad@PmunOgeBOX.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:10:25 GMT,

1st Commandment: HAVE NO OTHER GODS

I'm confused? Isn't Jesus another god figure?

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Let's not forget that since the theists insist there's a 'Father' God and
a
'Son' 'God, that it stands to reason that there's a 'Mother' God too!

Greywolf

I remember reading a while back that some of the Pre-Nicean Christians
believed the Trinity to be "Father, Mother, and Son" rather than
"Father, Son, and Holy Ghost", but they were outvoted at Nicea.

Now, however, the xians don't think of a "Mother" God. True, the Roman
Catholics are fond of referring to St. Mary as "Mother of God", but
when they're questioned about it, they run to their priest, who then
explains to them that this means "mother who was chosen by God to bear
His Son". It's not unlikely, though, that their exaltation of Mary was
initially a compromise with the "Father, Mother, and Son"
trinitarians.

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Gospel Bretts
a.a. Atheist #2262
Fundy Xian Atheist

Nice explanation. It seems rather odd that a council of mortal men can
decide by 'voting' whether or not there is or *isn't* a 'Mother' God.

Logic -- even when we are referring here to the imaginary -- dictates there
was a 'pre-Virgin Mary' Mother 'God'. And this is based solely on the 'fact'
that the theists maintain there is both a 'Father' and a 'Son' God. And that
the 'Son' God was a 'Son' God *before* he became incarnate. I'd love to hear
what the regular theists have to say about all this. Mommy 'God', theists,
or not?

Greywolf

As you trace the view of the triad of "persons" after the Catholics
held councils to defeat those who denied the full Deity of Jesus
Christ, they began to elaborate it as three personae but not persons.
Some began to adopt the polytheism of the Babylonian triad of Father,
Mother and Son. from http://www.piney.com/HsMindHist.html

Still, these references are from modern-day Arians, e.g. Jehovah's
Witnesses, and so should be skeptically examined (because we know that
all Christians are liars <disgust>).

Gospel Bretts wrote:

I remember reading a while back that some of the Pre-Nicean Christians
believed the Trinity to be "Father, Mother, and Son" rather than
"Father, Son, and Holy Ghost", but they were outvoted at Nicea.

... It's not unlikely, though, that their exaltation of Mary was
initially a compromise with the "Father, Mother, and Son"
trinitarians.

No rational person would want to be an atheist, because atheists do
this sort of thing -- repeat as fact any old nonsensical slander that
they heard somewhere and found convenient. And they repeat it with the
utmost certainty... <disgust>

All the best,