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User: "Budikka"
Date: 07 Jan 2008 10:54:22 PM
Object: 20 Questions For Evolutionists Answered - Again.

1. Where has macroevolution ever been observed? (See page 6.) What's
the mechanism for getting new complexity, such as new vital organs?
(See pages 6-8.)

Given that your ***** clicking doesn't work, let me provide the
standard definition for macroevolution: evolution at or above the
species level. Here are some observed and related examples:
Example 1: http://tinyurl.com/dxqjc
Example 2: http://tinyurl.com/d4376
Example 3: http://tinyurl.com/d5vqm
Example 4: http://tinyurl.com/dmbxj
Example 5: http://tinyurl.com/cy7r7
Example 6: http://tinyurl.com/dj9sh
Example 7: http://tinyurl.com/aplxu
Example 8: http://tinyurl.com/clpsx
Examples 9-539: http://tinyurl.com/cy9m2
Example 540: http://tinyurl.com/dsjku
Example 541: http://tinyurl.com/bhxw2
Example 542: http://tinyurl.com/77tyl
Example 543: http://tinyurl.com/bpdqm
Example 544: http://tinyurl.com/czsdq
Example 545: http://tinyurl.com/9qnrc
Example 546: http://tinyurl.com/dxg8s
Example 547: http://tinyurl.com/88kch
Example 548: http://tinyurl.com/88kch (shared with 547 thread)
Example 549: http://tinyurl.com/ccw8y
Example 550: http://tinyurl.com/7cxsz
Example 551: http://tinyurl.com/74o4q
Examples 552-577: http://tinyurl.com/7u8lv
Example 578: http://tinyurl.com/9xo8o
Example 579: http://tinyurl.com/avzzk
Example 580: http://tinyurl.com/7segx
Example 581: http://tinyurl.com/8c8od
Example 582: http://tinyurl.com/9voan
Example 583: http://tinyurl.com/76zao (misnumbered as 582)
Example 584: http://tinyurl.com/crzmz
Example 585: http://tinyurl.com/exagp
Examples 586-590: http://tinyurl.com/c4pea
Example 591: http://tinyurl.com/9aveh
Example 592: http://tinyurl.com/d2vmd
Example 593: http://tinyurl.com/dsg6z
Example 594: http://tinyurl.com/75rdt
Example 595: http://tinyurl.com/ak3oo
Example 596: http://tinyurl.com/anqh5
Example 597: http://tinyurl.com/89zjr
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Example 599: http://tinyurl.com/7oorv
Example 600: http://tinyurl.com/cujkx
Examples 601-608: http://tinyurl.com/bnflb
Examples 609-615: http://tinyurl.com/9pl7b
Examples 616-635: http://tinyurl.com/cqb3n
Examples 636-666: http://tinyurl.com/ay53o
1. Now you tell me - where has creation ever been observed?

If any of the thousands of vital organs evolved, how
could the organism live before getting the vital organ?

The organ was not always vital and/or it functioned in some other way
or for some other purpose, and/or the organ developed its vitality as
the organism evolved. It's not rocket science. It's biology.
Why didn't the creator duplicate all vital organs?

2. Do you realize how complex living things are? (See page 14.) How
could organs as complex as the eye, ear, or brain of even a tiny bird
ever come about by chance or natural processes?

Read the books on the topic, you'll find out. Here's how the eye
could have evolved in just such a process:
http://tinyurl.com/2j69
Why are things so complex when they could have been so simple for an
omniscient, omnipotent creator with infinite resources and all
eternity in which to work?

(See page 8.) How
could a bacterial motor evolve? How could such motors work until all
components evolved completely and were precisely in place? (See page
19.)

http://tinyurl.com/2d7var
Why did the creator make bacteria? They cause as much harm as they do
good. Is this the best he could do?

3. If macroevolution happened, where are the billions of transitional
fossils that should be there? Billions!

Why should there be billions? Can you provide a skeleton for every
one of your ancestors? Why not? If you descended from your parents,
grand parents, great grandparents, great great grandparents, etc., you
should be able to provide a skeleton for each one, shouldn't you?

Not a handful of questionable
transitions.

Even on single transitional disproves special creation.

Why don't we see a reasonably smooth continuum among all
living creatures, or in the fossil record, or both? (See page 11.)

We do insofar as the fossil record can preserve it. Here's a few
examples:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html

4. Textbooks show an evolutionary tree, but where is its trunk and
where are its branches? For example, what are the evolutionary
ancestors of the insects? (See page 12.)

Other insects, dimwit, whichc ame form others, and others, each
changing very slightly over the generations until they were not
insects when you go back far enough.
The science of evolution is not done in textbooks, it's done in the
lab, in the field, and in theoretical studies. the results are
published in peer reviewed science journals the world over by people
of all faiths.
Now where's your evidence that some god did it all in six days?

5. How could the first living cell begin?

What is there to support abiogenesis? The first thing you need to
establish is that there's even a basis of it. That basis is organic
chemistry. Is this found naturally or not? Well, yes it is, since
the basic building blocks of life are "grown" in space: "A team of
NASA exobiology researchers revealed today organic chemicals that play
a crucial role in the chemistry of life are common in space."
http://tinyurl.com/9bfah
In other words, not only do these precursors to life exist naturally,
they are common.
But they are in space. How do they reach Earth? Experiments have
shown that such chemistry occurs right here on Earth - or it did in
prebiotic atmospheric conditions that geologists have shown existed on
Earth several billion years ago:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller-Urey
Could "locally grown chemistry have started life?
" A laboratory model of a deep ocean vent has convinced Japanese
scientists that life on Earth began at the bottom of the ocean more
than three and a half billion years ago."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/275738.stm
Could they come to Earth on meteors and comets?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murchison_meteorite
"A complex mixture of alkanes was isolated as well which was similar
to that found in the Miller-Urey experiment."
Could they survive the impact?
"By simulating a high-velocity comet collision with the Earth, a team
of scientists has shown that organic molecules hitch-hiking aboard a
comet could have survived an impact and seeded life on Earth."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1262216.stm
Could they congegate in sufficient undisturbed volume to actually make
a start on life?
"Scientists understand several probable steps in the origin of life,
notably how the first organic molecules could have formed. In fact,
prebiotic synthesis processes are now thought to have been so
productive that the ancient Earth must have had far more different
kinds of molecules than could have been used by early life."
http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=a&id=4670
Where could these molecules collect together?
"The birthplace for life on Earth may have been labyrinthine networks
of tubes on the surface of rocks. In these natural test tubes, the
complex molecules needed for life could have evolved in safety, taking
its building blocks from the water washing over the rock and from the
minerals within. New research argues that the pores provide the
perfect sheltered environment for the chain of chemical reactions
necessary to evolve the first bacteria."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/239787.stm
Can they form "boundary structures" similar to cell walls?
"Boundary structures are formed by organic components of the Murchison
carbonaceous chondrite"
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v317/n6040/abs/317792a0.html
But can this actually work in practice?
"Scientists have managed to create 'primitive cells' in an experiment
which may indicate that life began in space and was delivered to
Earth."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1142840.stm
Can molecules mimic life?
"German scientists have created artificial life in the laboratory.
They have made molecules that are capable of copying themselves.
Although several labs around the world have done the same, these
molecules can evolve as well."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/217054.stm
How complex would the first cell need to be?
"When the entire 580,000-unit DNA sequence was completed, this free-
living microbe was discovered to have only 470 genes that code for
proteins. The human genome, by comparison, recently was estimated to
contain some 30,000...."
http://www.science.doe.gov/Sub/Accomplishments/Decades_Discovery/77.html
The smallest genome so far?
"Researchers now say that a symbiotic bacterium called Carsonella
ruddii, which lives off sap-feeding insects, has taken the record for
smallest genome with just 159,662 'letters' (or base pairs) of DNA and
182 protein-coding genes."
http://tinyurl.com/ybca4u
J. Craig Venter aims to find out just how small the gneome can go:
"In 2003 the team made significant advances toward the goal of a
synthetic genome. Using new methods the group improved the speed and
accuracy of genomic synthesis by assembling the 5,386 base pair
bacteriophage ?X174 (phi X)."
http://www.venterinstitute.org/research/
Now where's your evidence that "godidit"?

That's a greater miracle
than for bacteria to evolve into man.

Where's your evidence that there are miracles?

How could that first cell
reproduce?

Your mommy or daddy never told you about the birds and the bees? Look
up mitosis.

(See page 14.) Just before life appeared, did the
atmosphere have oxygen or did it not have oxygen?

Look it up.

Whichever choice you
make creates a terrible problem for evolution.

LIE!

Both must come into
existence at about the same time. (See page 14.)

LIE! The first life was anaerobic.

6. Please point to a strictly natural process that creates
information.

I'll give you two: mutation and gene duplication. Now you point to
evidence of a divinity creating information.

What evidence is there that information, such as that in
DNA, could ever assemble itself?

Chemistry.

What about the 4,000 books' worth of
coded information that are in a tiny part of each of your 100 trillion
cells?

What about the significantly less information in the most primitive
cells? Where does the Theory fo Evolution claim humans appeared as
they are now, right form the start? Right - it doesn't. It's
religion that claims such a thing, not evolution. Get your story
straight.

If astronomers received an intelligent signal from some distant
galaxy, most people would conclude that it came from an intelligent
source.

Why? Because we know what kind of signals intelligence might send.
But it is entirely conceivable that a signal from a completely alien
intelligence would go (or even is going) undetected. The only
"support" you can claim for creation from analogies like these is that
life was created by human intelligence. Is that your point?

Why then doesn't the vast information sequence in the DNA

You mean the 2% that actually contains functional genes, or 2% of
"junk" that appears to have value or the ~96% that's junk?
Why did a omnipotent, omniscient, perfect god with all eternity in
which to work an infinite resources upon which to call, who saw that
his work was good make ~96% of our genome junk?

molecule of just a bacterium also imply an intelligent source? (See
pages 9 and 15.)
7. Which came first, DNA or the proteins needed by DNA, which can only
be produced by DNA? (See page 15.)

RNA. read up about RNA world, Dimwit.
Which came first, the pin head or the angels dancing on it?

8. How could sexual reproduction evolve? (See page 18.) How could
immune systems evolve? (See page 18.)

Evolution, Dimwit.
Why do we need an immune system if we were created especially by a
loving creator who designed this world especially for us?

9. If it takes intelligence to make an arrowhead, why doesn't it take
vastly more intelligence to create a human? Do you really believe that
hydrogen will turn into people if you wait long enough?

Because a human isn't an arrowhead. Next question....
If it takes great intelligence to create a human, why doesn't it take
even greater intelligence to create a god?

10. If the solar system evolved, why do three planets spin backwards?
Why do at least 30 moons revolve backwards? (See page 24.)

Why shouldn't they? If a loving omnipotent omniscient God created the
solar system especially for us, why is Earth bombarded with asteroids
and deadly stellar radiation?

11. Can you name one reasonable hypothesis on how the moon got there-
From a collision with a celestial body about the size of Mars:

http://physicsweb.org/articles/news/5/8/13
Can you name even one reasonable hypothesis as to why a loving creator
slams comets into Earth?

12. Where did matter, space, time, energy, or even the laws of physics
come from? (See page 27.) What about water? (See page 24.)

What does this have to do with the Theory of Evolution?
Where did your god come from?

13. How could stars evolve? (See pages 28-30.)

Physics:
http://www.milky-way.com/gb/sevol.htm

14. Are you aware of all the unreasonable assumptions and
contradictory evidence used by those who say the earth is billions of
years old? (See pages 34-37 and 312-317.)

There aren't any.
Are you aware of how fuindamentally stupid the God myth is?

15. Why are living bacteria found inside rocks that you say are
hundreds of millions of years old and in meteorites that you say are
billions of years old? Clean-room techniques and great care were used
to rule out contamination. (See page 33.)

When you can give examples of these, I'll answer your question. What
does it have to do with evolution?

16. Did you know that most scientific dating techniques indicate that
the earth, solar system, and universe are young? (See pages 31-37.)

LIE! Radiometric Dating - a Christian Perspective:
http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html#page

17. Why do so many ancient cultures have flood legends? (See page
45.)

Because it floods everywhere at some time or other, but there isn't a
single shred of evidence for a global flood.

18. Have you heard about the mitochondrial Eve and the genetic Adam?
Scientists know that the mitochondrial Eve was the common female
ancestor of every living person, and she appears to have lived only
about 6,000-7,000 years ago. (See pages 309-311.)

LIE! "Mitochondrial Eve" lived 140,000 years ago. "Y-chromosome
Adam" lived 90,000 years ago. They never met.
If a god created two people 6,000 years ago, who were bottle-necked
just 4,300 years ago into eight mostly-related individuals from whom
we all descended, how come we have so many gene variants (alleles) in
our bodies?

19. Careful researchers have found the following inside meteorites:
living bacteria,

LIE!

salt crystals,

So?
limestone,
So?
water,
So?
sugars,
So?
terrestrial-

like brines,

So?
and earthlike isotopic patterns. Doesn't this implicate

Earth as their source-and a powerful launcher, "the fountains of the
great deep?" (See page 295.)

LIE!
What does *any* of this have to do with Evolution?
Why does your loving god throw huge rocks at us from space?

20. Would you explain the origin of any of the following 25 features
of the earth:
The Grand Canyon and Other Canyons

Erosion and deposition. What does this have to do with evolution?

Mid-Oceanic Ridge

Plate tectonics. What does this have to do with evolution?

Continental Shelves and Slopes

Why do these need to be "explained"?
What does this have to do with evolution?
Why did your loving god create a planet that is in geologic chaos that
has killed quite literally thousands of people?

Ocean Trenches (See pages 137-159.)

Plate tectonics. What does this have to do with evolution?

Seamounts and Tablemounts

Volcanic activity and plate tectonics. You really don't read much do
you? What does this have to do with evolution?

Earthquakes

Plate tectonics. What does this have to do with evolution?

Magnetic Variations on the Ocean Floor

Plate tectonics and changing magetic poles. What does this have to do
with evolution?

Submarine Canyons

Plate tectonics. What does this have to do with evolution?

Coal and Oil Formations

Deposition of organic matter. What does this have to do with
evolution?

Methane Hydrates

Methane hydrating. What does this have to do with evolution?

Ice Age

Ice age. What does this have to do with evolution?

Frozen Mammoths (See pages 219 -251.)

Ice age. What does this have to do with evolution?

Major Mountain Ranges

Plate tectonics. What does this have to do with evolution?

Overthrusts

Men trying to be macho in bed. What does this have to do with
evolution?

Volcanoes and Lava

Plate tectonics. What does this have to do with evolution?

Geothermal Heat

Radioactivity. What does this have to do with evolution?

Strata and Layered Fossils (See pages 161-173.)

Death and burial.

Metamorphic Rock

Geologic activity. What does this have to do with evolution?

Limestone (See pages 211-217.)

Deposition of skeletons. What does this have to do with evolution?

Plateaus

? What does this have to do with evolution?

Salt Domes

Oceans drying up. What does this have to do with evolution?

Jigsaw Fit of the Continents

Plate tectonics. What does this have to do with evolution?

Changing Axis Tilt

? What does this have to do with evolution?

Comets (See pages 253-284.)

What does this have to do with evolution?

Asteroids and Meteoroids (See pages 285-303.)

Meteroids? What does this have to do with evolution?

In a broad overview, pages 101-132 explain some obvious problems with
evolutionists' explanations for each of these 24 features and show how
all are consequences of a global flood. (Additional page numbers above
refer to chapters devoted entirely to a single feature.)

LIE! There is no evidence for a global flood.
Next please, right this way....
Budikka
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