Religions > Atheism > 200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2399972,00.html
200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth
By Lewis Smith
Light pollution would be the first to go, followed by fields,
buildings and cities
IF MAN were to vanish from the face of the Earth today, his footprint
on the planet would linger for the mere blink of an eye in geological
terms.
Within hours, nature would begin to eradicate its impact. In 50,000
years all that would remain would be archaeological traces. Only
radioactive materials and a few man-made chemical contaminants would
last longer — an invisible legacy.
Homo sapiens has managed just 150,000 years on Earth, and his earliest
— debatable — ancestor only six million. By contrast, the dinosaurs
populated the planet for 165 million years.
Man’s environmental footprint would, according to a report in New
Scientist, begin to deteriorate almost immediately, with light
pollution the first to go as power stations ceased to provide energy.
By tomorrow, street lights and house lights left on by their former
occupants would start to go out.
Streets and cultivated fields would be the next to go. Within 20 years
village streets and rural roads would have vanished under a matting of
weeds; fields would be overgrown within months. Urban streets would
take a little longer, but even in huge man-made sprawls, such as
London and Birmingham, plants would have taken over in about 50 years.
Buildings would decay rapidly. Wooden structures would collapse first,
assaulted by bugs and grubs. All such homes would be gone in a
century.
Glass and steel tower blocks that create city skylines would mostly
fall down within 200 years. Brick, stone and concrete structures would
last longer. With exceptions — the pyramids are already 3,000 years
old — by the next millennium there would be little more left than
ruins.
“If tomorrow dawns without humans, even from orbit the change will be
evident almost immediately,” Bob Holmes, of New Scientist, said. “With
no-one to make repairs, every storm, flood and frosty night gnaws away
at abandoned buildings and within a few decades roofs will begin to
fall in and buildings collapse.”
Ronald Chesser, of Texas Tech University, said: “The most pervasive
thing you see are plants whose root systems get into the concrete and
behind the bricks and into door frames and so forth and are rapidly
breaking up the structure.”
Wildlife would thrive in the absence of Man. Most of the 15,589
threatened species will begin to recover immediately towards
historical populations.
Carbon dioxide emissions wouldcontinue to cause climate change for
another 100 years, but after 1,000 years all would be back to
pre-industrial levels, with all man-made traces vanishing in 20,000
years.
However, the most radioactive of untreated nuclear waste would not be
safe for up to two million years, John Large, an independent nuclear
consultant, said. Man-made chemicals, especially perfluorinated types,
would not break down for up to 200,000 years, although it is thought
that they would have been buried long before then.
If, 50,000 years hence, an alien archaeologist were to land on an
Earth without Man, it might be quite frustrated by the paucity of
evidence that we were here at all.
Click here for a graphic showing how man's influence would disappear
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22 Oct 2006 01:29:56 PM |
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"b b w" <bye@bye.world.ok> wrote in message
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2399972,00.html
200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth
By Lewis Smith
Funny that. We routinely (well not really) dig up fossils of
life from tens of millions of years ago and ours are only going
to last a piddly 200,000 years. Whats wrong with us?
tim
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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22 Oct 2006 04:33:29 PM |
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"tim\(yet another new home\)" <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
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"b b w" <bye@bye.world.ok> wrote in message
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2399972,00.html
200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth By Lewis
Smith
Funny that. We routinely (well not really) dig up fossils of life
from tens of millions of years ago and ours are only going to last a
piddly 200,000 years. Whats wrong with us?
tim
The greater majority of the fossils are of low-order intelligence.
Shells, crinoids, plants, corals, insects, etc. Even dinos did not have
large brains as a rule - except the raptors, scary critterers! Perhaps
the larger the brain the less likely to survive? Our own intelligence
may destroy us.
Pangur - nonchristian theist and avid fossil hunter
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| User: "Matthew Russotto" |
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23 Oct 2006 12:45:15 PM |
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In article <4q1rimFkmfl7U1@individual.net>,
tim\(yet another new home\) <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
"b b w" <bye@bye.world.ok> wrote in message
news:163nj2dfa2vg4atfih3jnmncheid16k5en@news...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2399972,00.html
200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth
By Lewis Smith
Funny that. We routinely (well not really) dig up fossils of
life from tens of millions of years ago and ours are only going
to last a piddly 200,000 years. Whats wrong with us?
Nothing. Mr. Smith is wrong. Traces of both homo sapiens and civilization
would certainly exist 200,000 years after man disappeared... possibly
not in England, though. Certainly in areas more suited for
preservation (read:drier) like Las Vegas. The buildings might come
down but the alloys won't vanish so easily.
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There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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22 Oct 2006 01:50:20 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 19:29:56 +0100 "tim\(yet another new home\)"
<tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> said the following in alt.atheism and I
was immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's
"Messiah" for some reason...
"b b w" <bye@bye.world.ok> wrote in message
news:163nj2dfa2vg4atfih3jnmncheid16k5en@news...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2399972,00.html
200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth
By Lewis Smith
Funny that. We routinely (well not really) dig up fossils of
life from tens of millions of years ago and ours are only going
to last a piddly 200,000 years. Whats wrong with us?
The concept here was that all humans *vanish* overnight; and how long
it would take for the Earth to erase the signs that we were here.
200,000 years after the vanishing, an alien race entering Earth orbit
would not be able to tell that an intelligent race was ever here.
They'd have to land and do extensive searching before evidence began
surfacing.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "" |
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22 Oct 2006 02:18:42 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:50:20 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 19:29:56 +0100 "tim\(yet another new home\)"
<tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> said the following in alt.atheism and I
was immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's
"Messiah" for some reason...
"b b w" <bye@bye.world.ok> wrote in message
news:163nj2dfa2vg4atfih3jnmncheid16k5en@news...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2399972,00.html
200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth
By Lewis Smith
Funny that. We routinely (well not really) dig up fossils of
life from tens of millions of years ago and ours are only going
to last a piddly 200,000 years. Whats wrong with us?
The concept here was that all humans *vanish* overnight; and how long
it would take for the Earth to erase the signs that we were here.
200,000 years after the vanishing, an alien race entering Earth orbit
would not be able to tell that an intelligent race was ever here.
They'd have to land and do extensive searching before evidence began
surfacing.
I'm sure my mother-in-laws Christmas cake will survive.
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| User: "Magda" |
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22 Oct 2006 01:38:23 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 19:29:56 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, "tim\(yet another new home\)"
<tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
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... "b b w" <bye@bye.world.ok> wrote in message
... news:163nj2dfa2vg4atfih3jnmncheid16k5en@news...
... > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2399972,00.html
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... > 200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth
... > By Lewis Smith
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... Funny that. We routinely (well not really) dig up fossils of
... life from tens of millions of years ago and ours are only going
... to last a piddly 200,000 years. Whats wrong with us?
Is it a rhetorical question?
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| User: "Christopher Helms" |
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22 Oct 2006 06:19:20 PM |
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tim(yet another new home) wrote:
"b b w" <bye@bye.world.ok> wrote in message
news:163nj2dfa2vg4atfih3jnmncheid16k5en@news...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2399972,00.html
200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth
By Lewis Smith
Funny that. We routinely (well not really) dig up fossils of
life from tens of millions of years ago and ours are only going
to last a piddly 200,000 years. Whats wrong with us?
tim
Nobody knows how long we're going to last. But while we're on the
subject, why did we evolve intelligence as a survival tool when
everything else evolved fur, claws, shells, teeth, camoflage, fast
breeding and other stuff? Why did we get this? Physically, we're
completely unequipped to survive on this planet for any length of time
but mentally we can survive by bending things to our will. Why did we
develop brains and not fur or claws? Why did we get smart and soft
while everything else stayed mean, hairy and stupid? I'm sure there's
an answer for this, but I don't know what it is.
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| User: "Martha Vandella" |
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22 Oct 2006 06:27:32 PM |
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Christopher Helms wrote:
Why did we get smart and soft
while everything else stayed mean, hairy and stupid? I'm sure there's
an answer for this, but I don't know what it is.
For the same reason a cancer cell is 'smarter' than the healthy cells
around it. We are a disease upon the earth, a cancer. Cancer cells
exist only to propogate by destruction, like mankind does.
I would like to see mankind destroyed in my lifetime.
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| User: "avery" |
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24 Oct 2006 11:19:42 AM |
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"Martha Vandella" <garnamaorama@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161559652.285043.170750@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Christopher Helms wrote:
Why did we get smart and soft
while everything else stayed mean, hairy and stupid? I'm sure there's
an answer for this, but I don't know what it is.
For the same reason a cancer cell is 'smarter' than the healthy cells
around it. We are a disease upon the earth, a cancer. Cancer cells
exist only to propogate by destruction, like mankind does.
I would like to see mankind destroyed in my lifetime.
Charming. Aren't you the belligerent broad who wrote the quiveringly
saccharine, poignant post about how seeing "Dead Man Walking" had turned you
into a pot of molten goodness and forgiveness?
Consistency, my dear shrew, consistency.
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| User: "trippy" |
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22 Oct 2006 06:32:07 PM |
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In article <1161559652.285043.170750@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Martha Vandella took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I
said "Oh Wow"...
Christopher Helms wrote:
Why did we get smart and soft
while everything else stayed mean, hairy and stupid? I'm sure there's
an answer for this, but I don't know what it is.
For the same reason a cancer cell is 'smarter' than the healthy cells
around it. We are a disease upon the earth, a cancer. Cancer cells
exist only to propogate by destruction, like mankind does.
I would like to see mankind destroyed in my lifetime.
It's well on the way.
--
trippy
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
NP: "Back For More" -- RATT
"Now, technology's getting better all the time and that's fine,
but most of the time all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife,
and a smile."
-- Robert Redford "Spy Game"
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| User: "Phoenix" |
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22 Oct 2006 06:41:20 PM |
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In article <MPG.1fa5bb74ef0a06ac98a233@news.alt.net>,
silverbells@tacoshells.com says...
In article <1161559652.285043.170750@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Martha Vandella took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I
said "Oh Wow"...
Christopher Helms wrote:
Why did we get smart and soft
while everything else stayed mean, hairy and stupid? I'm sure there's
an answer for this, but I don't know what it is.
For the same reason a cancer cell is 'smarter' than the healthy cells
around it. We are a disease upon the earth, a cancer. Cancer cells
exist only to propogate by destruction, like mankind does.
I would like to see mankind destroyed in my lifetime.
It's well on the way.
6 billion and growing. How are we going to get destroyed exactly?
bel
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| User: "trippy" |
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22 Oct 2006 07:05:13 PM |
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In article <MPG.1fa5cbaf426d7c27989f23@news-server.carolina.rr.com>,
Phoenix took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh
Wow"...
In article <MPG.1fa5bb74ef0a06ac98a233@news.alt.net>,
silverbells@tacoshells.com says...
In article <1161559652.285043.170750@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Martha Vandella took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I
said "Oh Wow"...
Christopher Helms wrote:
Why did we get smart and soft
while everything else stayed mean, hairy and stupid? I'm sure there's
an answer for this, but I don't know what it is.
For the same reason a cancer cell is 'smarter' than the healthy cells
around it. We are a disease upon the earth, a cancer. Cancer cells
exist only to propogate by destruction, like mankind does.
I would like to see mankind destroyed in my lifetime.
It's well on the way.
6 billion and growing. How are we going to get destroyed exactly?
Pollution, war or eating up the food supply, which is starting to
dwindle. Pick one. Or more.
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trippy
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
NP: "Back For More" -- RATT
"Now, technology's getting better all the time and that's fine,
but most of the time all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife,
and a smile."
-- Robert Redford "Spy Game"
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| User: "Magda" |
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22 Oct 2006 07:12:29 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 23:41:20 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, Phoenix <avianatrix@yahoo.com>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... > > >> Why did we get smart and soft
... > > > while everything else stayed mean, hairy and stupid? I'm sure there's
... > > > an answer for this, but I don't know what it is.
... > >
... > > For the same reason a cancer cell is 'smarter' than the healthy cells
... > > around it. We are a disease upon the earth, a cancer. Cancer cells
... > > exist only to propogate by destruction, like mankind does.
... > >
... > > I would like to see mankind destroyed in my lifetime.
... >
... > It's well on the way.
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... 6 billion and growing. How are we going to get destroyed exactly?
Entropy.
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| User: "Phoenix" |
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22 Oct 2006 07:31:14 PM |
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In article <672oj2hibrvr5dkuq7m8v88nfo8t35m7qb@4ax.com>,
chriscross@hey.eu says...
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 23:41:20 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, Phoenix <avianatrix@yahoo.com>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... > > >> Why did we get smart and soft
... > > > while everything else stayed mean, hairy and stupid? I'm sure there's
... > > > an answer for this, but I don't know what it is.
... > >
... > > For the same reason a cancer cell is 'smarter' than the healthy cells
... > > around it. We are a disease upon the earth, a cancer. Cancer cells
... > > exist only to propogate by destruction, like mankind does.
... > >
... > > I would like to see mankind destroyed in my lifetime.
... >
... > It's well on the way.
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... 6 billion and growing. How are we going to get destroyed exactly?
Entropy.
Oh I'll buy that.
bel
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| User: "Martha Vandella" |
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22 Oct 2006 07:51:30 PM |
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Phoenix wrote:
6 billion and growing. How are we going to get destroyed exactly?
A wild-fire virus that infects our reproductive cells and kills them
off in a 48 hour fever. Those who survive will die within a week of the
resultant sepsis.
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| User: "Matthew Russotto" |
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23 Oct 2006 12:57:05 PM |
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In article <1161564689.988228.155480@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
Martha Vandella <garnamaorama@gmail.com> wrote:
Phoenix wrote:
6 billion and growing. How are we going to get destroyed exactly?
A wild-fire virus that infects our reproductive cells and kills them
off in a 48 hour fever. Those who survive will die within a week of the
resultant sepsis.
The latter is sufficient; why bother with the former (which isn't)?
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There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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22 Oct 2006 08:59:55 PM |
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On 22 Oct 2006 17:51:30 -0700 "Martha Vandella"
<garnamaorama@gmail.com> said the following in alt.atheism and I was
immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah"
for some reason...
Phoenix wrote:
6 billion and growing. How are we going to get destroyed exactly?
A wild-fire virus that infects our reproductive cells and kills them
off in a 48 hour fever. Those who survive will die within a week of the
resultant sepsis.
How sad for you that such a virus doesn't exist..
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Christopher Helms" |
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22 Oct 2006 06:44:23 PM |
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Martha Vandella wrote:
Christopher Helms wrote:
Why did we get smart and soft
while everything else stayed mean, hairy and stupid? I'm sure there's
an answer for this, but I don't know what it is.
For the same reason a cancer cell is 'smarter' than the healthy cells
around it. We are a disease upon the earth, a cancer. Cancer cells
exist only to propogate by destruction, like mankind does.
Cancer cells are not smart. They have a devious way of multiplying that
humans have not figured out yet, but the cells themselves are not
conscious of anything. Cancer has no intelligence. In fact, it doesn't
even have consciousness. Tuberculosis bacilli, the mold that causes
tooth decay or Whooping Cough germs survive by multiplying in a host,
but the germs are not conscious of what they are doing in any way. The
little bastards do what they do and the "race," as it were, survives.
But the TB germs alive today are no more conscious, intelligent or
aware today than the ones that lived a million years ago. We, however,
are more aware than our ancestors of a million years ago. Why?
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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22 Oct 2006 07:34:32 PM |
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On 22 Oct 2006 16:27:32 -0700 "Martha Vandella"
<garnamaorama@gmail.com> said the following in alt.atheism and I was
immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah"
for some reason...
Christopher Helms wrote:
Why did we get smart and soft
while everything else stayed mean, hairy and stupid? I'm sure there's
an answer for this, but I don't know what it is.
For the same reason a cancer cell is 'smarter' than the healthy cells
around it. We are a disease upon the earth, a cancer. Cancer cells
exist only to propogate by destruction, like mankind does.
I would like to see mankind destroyed in my lifetime.
Good idea. You first.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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22 Oct 2006 01:07:43 PM |
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"b b w" <bye@bye.world.ok> wrote in message
news:163nj2dfa2vg4atfih3jnmncheid16k5en@news...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2399972,00.html
200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth
By Lewis Smith
Wishful thinking?
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rb
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| User: "jcr" |
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26 Oct 2006 03:39:05 PM |
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If none of us are here...who cares?
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26 Oct 2006 03:46:07 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:39:05 -0400, jcr <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
If none of us are here...who cares?
I plan to be here. Starting last year I only eat food high in
preservatives.
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| User: "Phoenix" |
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22 Oct 2006 01:12:35 PM |
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In article <163nj2dfa2vg4atfih3jnmncheid16k5en@news>,
says...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2399972,00.html
200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth
By Lewis Smith
Sounds like paradise.
A plastic eating bacteria would probably knock us out quick. If it
becomes an algae, the ozone layer will be re-established and the world
oxygen levels would start to normalize again.
Our lasting effects would be in the invasive species (usually encouraged
by home gardens and irresponsible animal people) that will wreck the
borderline ecosystems. Lots of species aren't surviving now because we
humans think outdoor cats are cute, or carnivorous Oriental fish should
be released to the wild, or European Tea Roses make a nice backyard
accent.
I hope our planet can survive us. We sure have screwed up our tenure as
the boss.
bel
Light pollution would be the first to go, followed by fields,
buildings and cities
IF MAN were to vanish from the face of the Earth today, his footprint
on the planet would linger for the mere blink of an eye in geological
terms.
Within hours, nature would begin to eradicate its impact. In 50,000
years all that would remain would be archaeological traces. Only
radioactive materials and a few man-made chemical contaminants would
last longer — an invisible legacy.
Homo sapiens has managed just 150,000 years on Earth, and his earliest
— debatable — ancestor only six million. By contrast, the dinosaurs
populated the planet for 165 million years.
Man’s environmental footprint would, according to a report in New
Scientist, begin to deteriorate almost immediately, with light
pollution the first to go as power stations ceased to provide energy.
By tomorrow, street lights and house lights left on by their former
occupants would start to go out.
Streets and cultivated fields would be the next to go. Within 20 years
village streets and rural roads would have vanished under a matting of
weeds; fields would be overgrown within months. Urban streets would
take a little longer, but even in huge man-made sprawls, such as
London and Birmingham, plants would have taken over in about 50 years.
Buildings would decay rapidly. Wooden structures would collapse first,
assaulted by bugs and grubs. All such homes would be gone in a
century.
Glass and steel tower blocks that create city skylines would mostly
fall down within 200 years. Brick, stone and concrete structures would
last longer. With exceptions — the pyramids are already 3,000 years
old — by the next millennium there would be little more left than
ruins.
“If tomorrow dawns without humans, even from orbit the change will be
evident almost immediately,” Bob Holmes, of New Scientist, said. “With
no-one to make repairs, every storm, flood and frosty night gnaws away
at abandoned buildings and within a few decades roofs will begin to
fall in and buildings collapse.”
Ronald Chesser, of Texas Tech University, said: “The most pervasive
thing you see are plants whose root systems get into the concrete and
behind the bricks and into door frames and so forth and are rapidly
breaking up the structure.”
Wildlife would thrive in the absence of Man. Most of the 15,589
threatened species will begin to recover immediately towards
historical populations.
Carbon dioxide emissions wouldcontinue to cause climate change for
another 100 years, but after 1,000 years all would be back to
pre-industrial levels, with all man-made traces vanishing in 20,000
years.
However, the most radioactive of untreated nuclear waste would not be
safe for up to two million years, John Large, an independent nuclear
consultant, said. Man-made chemicals, especially perfluorinated types,
would not break down for up to 200,000 years, although it is thought
that they would have been buried long before then.
If, 50,000 years hence, an alien archaeologist were to land on an
Earth without Man, it might be quite frustrated by the paucity of
evidence that we were here at all.
Click here for a graphic showing how man's influence would disappear
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| User: "DTJ" |
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26 Oct 2006 08:33:47 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:12:35 GMT, Phoenix <avianatrix@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Sounds like paradise.
A plastic eating bacteria would probably knock us out quick. If it
becomes an algae, the ozone layer will be re-established and the world
oxygen levels would start to normalize again.
Our lasting effects would be in the invasive species (usually encouraged
by home gardens and irresponsible animal people) that will wreck the
borderline ecosystems. Lots of species aren't surviving now because we
humans think outdoor cats are cute, or carnivorous Oriental fish should
be released to the wild, or European Tea Roses make a nice backyard
accent.
I hope our planet can survive us. We sure have screwed up our tenure as
the boss.
I love listening to you morons. Had humans been alive when the
dinosaurs were, you would blame it on us. You would ignore the fact
that other species could not exist in the conditions that existed
then, and that more intelligent species now populate the planet. If
humanity ever does perish, who knows what will replace us. Could be
better, could be worse. The fact is that you frickin morons have no
clue, and to ***** about how the planet is changing and blame it on
humans shows why we need to extinguish environmentalists.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: 200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth |
26 Oct 2006 09:00:29 PM |
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DTJ wrote:
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:12:35 GMT, Phoenix <avianatrix@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Sounds like paradise.
A plastic eating bacteria would probably knock us out quick. If it
becomes an algae, the ozone layer will be re-established and the
world oxygen levels would start to normalize again.
Our lasting effects would be in the invasive species (usually
encouraged by home gardens and irresponsible animal people) that
will wreck the borderline ecosystems. Lots of species aren't
surviving now because we humans think outdoor cats are cute, or
carnivorous Oriental fish should be released to the wild, or
European Tea Roses make a nice backyard accent.
I hope our planet can survive us. We sure have screwed up our
tenure as the boss.
I love listening to you morons. Had humans been alive when the
dinosaurs were, you would blame it on us. You would ignore the fact
that other species could not exist in the conditions that existed
then, and that more intelligent species now populate the planet. If
humanity ever does perish, who knows what will replace us. Could be
better, could be worse. The fact is that you frickin morons have no
clue, and to ***** about how the planet is changing and blame it on
humans shows why we need to extinguish environmentalists.
Yeah. In 1984 I was in LA and somebody pointed out a little hill that was
about a mile away.
He said he hadn't seen it in quite a while because of the smog. Now it's
visible all the time and probably bores him.
When smog first became a problem it was pointed out that San Francisco would
never be bothered by it...
I also remember looking at the water in the bay. All you could see was the
surface and that's good enough for anybody. Besides if you clean it up so
you can look down into it, the worms come back and eat the wood.
Lets dump the environmentalists, dump everything in the ocean if it's close
and on the land if it's not. It's not like sewers ever did anything for our
lifespan and you can get used to the smell after a while.
We can bring back the chamber pot industry and find a use for the lead left
over after we put it back in gasoline.
Probably want to repeal helmet laws while we are at it. It will make people
like him happy.
(And a local hospital in a small Northern California town will be able to re
open the head trauma unit they shut down the year after helmet laws went
into effect in California.)
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| User: "necromancer" |
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| Title: Re: 200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth |
22 Oct 2006 02:26:27 PM |
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Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), b b w said in
rec.autos.driving:
http://www.
And less than 2 seconds to ** P * L * O * N * K ** and off topic
excessive crossposting troll.
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| User: "Roedy Green" |
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| Title: Re: 200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth |
22 Oct 2006 09:55:10 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:32:07 -0400, b b w <bye@bye.world.ok> wrote,
quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
Light pollution would be the first to go, followed by fields,
buildings and cities
I asked a paleontologist friend what would likely last longest to let
some future civilisation know that we had existed. She said it would
likely be bricks.
I get a strange pleasure watching blackberries destroying parking
lots, ripping up the asphalt. Man is a very temporary infection on
earth.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green, http://mindprod.com
More than anything else you want the end of the Republican reign of terror.
Buy a big chunk of it at http://www.democrats.org/
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| User: "Larry Bud" |
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| Title: Re: 200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth |
23 Oct 2006 12:53:49 PM |
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I get a strange pleasure watching blackberries destroying parking
lots, ripping up the asphalt. Man is a very temporary infection on
earth.
If you think you're an infection, why don't you go for the cure?
OR, do you think EVERYBODY ELSE is the infection?
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| User: "Stephen Knight" |
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| Title: Re: 200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth |
23 Oct 2006 09:34:30 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:32:07 -0400, b b w <bye@bye.world.ok> wrote,
quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
Light pollution would be the first to go, followed by fields,
buildings and cities
Styrofoam holders for Big Mac's will last forever. It is a fitting
memory for humanity. We are a fast food species.
I may have died years ago were it not for human innovation in the
culinary arts.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
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| User: "Matthew Russotto" |
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| Title: Re: 200,000 years for all trace of Man to vanish from the Earth |
23 Oct 2006 01:01:33 PM |
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In article <miboj217nfi90m9l6b85lhjaogbrdi3nl8@4ax.com>,
Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:32:07 -0400, b b w <bye@bye.world.ok> wrote,
quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
Light pollution would be the first to go, followed by fields,
buildings and cities
I asked a paleontologist friend what would likely last longest to let
some future civilisation know that we had existed. She said it would
likely be bricks.
Cut stone would last longer than brick; the belgian block streets of
Philadelphia will last a VERY long time. In the desert, metals (and
whole airplanes, for that matter) will last a long time and from their
composition are unmistakeably products of much higher technology than brick.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.
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