| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Lurkalot" |
| Date: |
22 Dec 2006 09:06:04 AM |
| Object: |
2006's scientific advances.... |
Read it and weep, Bible-weenies!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6201373.stm
Mr M.
.
|
|
| User: "Bobby Bryant" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
22 Dec 2006 04:57:43 PM |
|
|
In article <wvSih.13771$Dr3.13695@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>,
"Lurkalot" <Lurkalot@virgin.net> writes:
Read it and weep, Bible-weenies!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6201373.stm
Now, now. Only three of the ten had to do with evolution.
--
Bobby Bryant
Reno, Nevada
Remove your hat to reply by e-mail.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Mike Painter" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
22 Dec 2006 08:45:40 PM |
|
|
Bobby Bryant wrote:
In article <wvSih.13771$Dr3.13695@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>,
"Lurkalot" <Lurkalot@virgin.net> writes:
Read it and weep, Bible-weenies!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6201373.stm
Now, now. Only three of the ten had to do with evolution.
Wait'll next year or the one after that.
http://aiche.confex.com/aiche/2006/techprogram/P52714.HTM deals with
applying the thoery of evolution to the design of biological circuits.
I've yet to see a fundie who actually understands what a theory is.
Bible Bob's classic seems to be as good as it gets.
"A theory is a guess, speculation, abstract thought, a guess based on
some facts; but then facts are not truth so it is all about theory."
If they did understand, they would accept evolution.
.
|
|
|
| User: "thomas p." |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
23 Dec 2006 12:28:16 PM |
|
|
Mike Painter skrev:
Bobby Bryant wrote:
In article <wvSih.13771$Dr3.13695@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>,
"Lurkalot" <Lurkalot@virgin.net> writes:
Read it and weep, Bible-weenies!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6201373.stm
Now, now. Only three of the ten had to do with evolution.
Wait'll next year or the one after that.
http://aiche.confex.com/aiche/2006/techprogram/P52714.HTM deals with
applying the thoery of evolution to the design of biological circuits.
I've yet to see a fundie who actually understands what a theory is.
Bible Bob's classic seems to be as good as it gets.
"A theory is a guess, speculation, abstract thought, a guess based on
some facts; but then facts are not truth so it is all about theory."
If they did understand, they would accept evolution.
You have it backwards. They refuse to accept evolution, therefore they
will not allow themselves to understand what a theory is. They already
know the "Truth", therefore any pesky data that contradicts their Truth
must be wrong.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Bobby Bryant" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
23 Dec 2006 03:19:00 PM |
|
|
In article <1166898496.880485.56850@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com>,
"thomas p." <tonyofbexar@yahoo.dk> writes:
Mike Painter skrev:
Bobby Bryant wrote:
In article <wvSih.13771$Dr3.13695@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>,
"Lurkalot" <Lurkalot@virgin.net> writes:
Read it and weep, Bible-weenies!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6201373.stm
Now, now. Only three of the ten had to do with evolution.
Wait'll next year or the one after that.
http://aiche.confex.com/aiche/2006/techprogram/P52714.HTM deals with
applying the thoery of evolution to the design of biological circuits.
I've yet to see a fundie who actually understands what a theory is.
Bible Bob's classic seems to be as good as it gets.
"A theory is a guess, speculation, abstract thought, a guess based on
some facts; but then facts are not truth so it is all about theory."
If they did understand, they would accept evolution.
You have it backwards. They refuse to accept evolution, therefore they
will not allow themselves to understand what a theory is.
I suspect that that's it.
--
Bobby Bryant
Reno, Nevada
Remove your hat to reply by e-mail.
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Michael Gray" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
23 Dec 2006 02:51:45 PM |
|
|
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 02:45:40 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <oL0jh.49527$qO4.43519@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net>
Bobby Bryant wrote:
In article <wvSih.13771$Dr3.13695@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>,
"Lurkalot" <Lurkalot@virgin.net> writes:
Read it and weep, Bible-weenies!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6201373.stm
Now, now. Only three of the ten had to do with evolution.
Wait'll next year or the one after that.
http://aiche.confex.com/aiche/2006/techprogram/P52714.HTM deals with
applying the thoery of evolution to the design of biological circuits.
I've yet to see a fundie who actually understands what a theory is.
Bible Bob's classic seems to be as good as it gets.
"A theory is a guess, speculation, abstract thought, a guess based on
some facts; but then facts are not truth so it is all about theory."
If they did understand, they would accept evolution.
If they were that educated, odds on they'd drop religion altogether.
--
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
22 Dec 2006 05:05:21 PM |
|
|
Lurkalot wrote:
Read it and weep, Bible-weenies!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6201373.stm
Mr M.
I read it. But rather than weep, I laughed.
On the speciation link, what has occurred is that they have falsified
the claim that the two butterflies were "two different species." If you
take two so-called "different species" and succesfully interbreed them,
producing offspring that can also reproduce, you have just falsified
that they are two separate species.
This is exactly the type of thing that Creationists should do every
time evolutionists claim "Hey look! A new species! Now give me more
grant money, foolish taxpayers!"
You evolutionists just disproved one of your "new species." How
embarrassing.
.
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
22 Dec 2006 05:35:27 PM |
|
|
wrote:
This is exactly the type of thing that Creationists should do every
time evolutionists claim "Hey look! A new species! Now give me more
grant money, foolish taxpayers!"
This is a common refrain from the Religious Right. Nevermind that
religion is wallowing in bucks, and seeking more every day. Tell you
what, give up your tax exemptions for your religious activities, and
I'll forego my (nonexistant) grants. Deal?
HB
.
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
22 Dec 2006 05:48:31 PM |
|
|
This is a common refrain from the Religious Right. Nevermind that
religion is wallowing in bucks, and seeking more every day. Tell you
what, give up your tax exemptions for your religious activities, and
I'll forego my (nonexistant) grants. Deal?
HB
No deal. How about you stop forcing Christian taxpayers to pay for the
teaching of evolution in public schools.
Maybe we could allow secular-atheist schools, who want to teach
evolution, to be funded purely by tax exemptions and atheist donations?
Then the playing field would be level.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Rev. Jones Says \Drink More Koolaid" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
22 Dec 2006 07:41:14 PM |
|
|
<bimms@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1166831311.746424.85700@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...
No deal. How about you stop forcing Christian taxpayers to pay for the
teaching of evolution in public schools.
Why should biology teachers stop teaching valid science?
--
******************************************
Rev. Mercutio Jones
http://www.myspace.com/therightreverendjones
http://www.myspace.com/dayofthesick
************************************************
.
|
|
|
| User: "Michael Gray" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
23 Dec 2006 02:52:46 PM |
|
|
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 01:41:14 GMT, "Rev. Jones Says \"Drink More
Koolaid\"" <lawtoniww@hotmail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <_O%ih.11384$hI.8924@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net>
<bimms@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1166831311.746424.85700@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...
No deal. How about you stop forcing Christian taxpayers to pay for the
teaching of evolution in public schools.
Why should biology teachers stop teaching valid science?
Because factual education reduces the power of the churches.
--
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
22 Dec 2006 07:37:18 PM |
|
|
wrote:
No deal. How about you stop forcing Christian taxpayers to pay for the
teaching of evolution in public schools.
OK, but once again, you pay taxes for your schools and I'll pay taxes
for schools that actually teach something. Of course, you still need to
give up those little deductions for "church donations" (tithes). Not
to mention the megabucks in property (wealth) owned by the churches.
Maybe we could allow secular-atheist schools, who want to teach
evolution, to be funded purely by tax exemptions and atheist donations?
Then the playing field would be level.
I would be proud to have my children attend such a school, free from
the pervasive religion present in most Red State public schools. Once
again we are talking about the quality of education here. Same
conditions apply as above. Why should I pay taxes to subsidize your
perverted religion?
HB
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
23 Dec 2006 04:29:37 PM |
|
|
wrote:
This is a common refrain from the Religious Right. Nevermind that
religion is wallowing in bucks, and seeking more every day. Tell you
what, give up your tax exemptions for your religious activities, and
I'll forego my (nonexistant) grants. Deal?
HB
No deal. How about you stop forcing Christian taxpayers to pay for the
teaching of evolution in public schools.
Why would normal Christians have a problem with the teaching of
evolution? The only Christians that have a problem with it are
fringe-element fundamentalist holy rollers, and they are only
Christians as a technicality, since they really worship themselves.
Maybe we could allow secular-atheist schools, who want to teach
evolution, to be funded purely by tax exemptions and atheist donations?
Then the playing field would be level.
Normal secular public schools, funded by everybody, not going by
anybody's theology, basically what we have now. Atheists that want
special atheist schools would have to start private schools of their
own. Then the playing field would be level.
Eric Root
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "wf3h" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
22 Dec 2006 07:23:29 PM |
|
|
wrote:
This is a common refrain from the Religious Right. Nevermind that
religion is wallowing in bucks, and seeking more every day. Tell you
what, give up your tax exemptions for your religious activities, and
I'll forego my (nonexistant) grants. Deal?
HB
No deal. How about you stop forcing Christian taxpayers to pay for the
teaching of evolution in public schools.
sorry, sport. jefferson and madison beat you to it. christianist
fanatics don't get to run the govt.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Desertphile" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
22 Dec 2006 10:08:58 PM |
|
|
wrote:
This is a common refrain from the Religious Right. Nevermind that
religion is wallowing in bucks, and seeking more every day. Tell you
what, give up your tax exemptions for your religious activities, and
I'll forego my (nonexistant) grants. Deal?
HB
No deal. How about you stop forcing Christian taxpayers to pay for the
teaching of evolution in public schools.
The majority of Christians support teaching science in public schools.
It's ignorant hate-filled cult members such as yourself that are
horrorified that people are being well-educated.
It is every USA citizen's right to receive a basic education: you
desire to destroy that right, frankly, I find repulsive and demonic.
Maybe we could allow secular-atheist schools,
In the USA, all public schools are required by law, and common sense,
to be secular.
who want to teach evolution,
One cannot teach evolution: only god can do that. Perhaps you mean
"teach evolutionary theory."
Why the ***** should you separate the atheists from the thesists when it
comes to teaching evolutionary theory? Is it really your desire to keep
thesists ignorant and stupid?
And what about the millions and millions of theists (Christians in the
USA) who very much wish to learn evolutionary theory? What right have
*YOU* to deny them that fundamental right?
to be funded purely by tax exemptions and atheist donations?
Then the playing field would be level.
When is your cult going to stop sucking up tax dollars? When will your
cult stop forcing non-cult members to financially support it? Quit
being a deadbeat, pay for your own goddamned occultism your own damn
self and stop sucking at the public tit.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
23 Dec 2006 12:21:30 AM |
|
|
On 22 Dec 2006 15:48:31 -0800, wrote:
This is a common refrain from the Religious Right. Nevermind that
religion is wallowing in bucks, and seeking more every day. Tell you
what, give up your tax exemptions for your religious activities, and
I'll forego my (nonexistant) grants. Deal?
HB
No deal. How about you stop forcing Christian taxpayers to pay for the
teaching of evolution in public schools.
Are you really this stupid, or just being a jerk for eggect?
Maybe we could allow secular-atheist schools, who want to teach
evolution, to be funded purely by tax exemptions and atheist donations?
Then the playing field would be level.
Why do you liars pretend evolution has anything to do with atheism or
vice versa?
.
|
|
|
| User: "Michael Gray" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
23 Dec 2006 02:53:31 PM |
|
|
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 01:21:30 -0500, "Christopher A.Lee"
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
- Refer: <4kipo2tjt9f8nfijdch6je964hqvvl1bdl@4ax.com>
On 22 Dec 2006 15:48:31 -0800, wrote:
This is a common refrain from the Religious Right. Nevermind that
religion is wallowing in bucks, and seeking more every day. Tell you
what, give up your tax exemptions for your religious activities, and
I'll forego my (nonexistant) grants. Deal?
HB
No deal. How about you stop forcing Christian taxpayers to pay for the
teaching of evolution in public schools.
Are you really this stupid, or just being a jerk for eggect?
Maybe we could allow secular-atheist schools, who want to teach
evolution, to be funded purely by tax exemptions and atheist donations?
Then the playing field would be level.
Why do you liars pretend evolution has anything to do with atheism or
vice versa?
Because it is a hateful cretin.
--
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
23 Dec 2006 08:24:30 AM |
|
|
On 22 Dec 2006 15:48:31 -0800, in alt.atheism , in
<1166831311.746424.85700@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> wrote:
This is a common refrain from the Religious Right. Nevermind that
religion is wallowing in bucks, and seeking more every day. Tell you
what, give up your tax exemptions for your religious activities, and
I'll forego my (nonexistant) grants. Deal?
HB
No deal. How about you stop forcing Christian taxpayers to pay for the
teaching of evolution in public schools.
Maybe we could allow secular-atheist schools, who want to teach
evolution, to be funded purely by tax exemptions and atheist donations?
Then the playing field would be level.
Can I have my taxes not go for this dangerous war? Can I not pay for
the useless counter-productive *war* on drugs? IOW how much freedom do
you really support?
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
.
|
|
|
| User: "Mike Painter" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
23 Dec 2006 12:29:41 PM |
|
|
Matt Silberstein wrote:
On 22 Dec 2006 15:48:31 -0800, in alt.atheism , in
<1166831311.746424.85700@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> wrote:
This is a common refrain from the Religious Right. Nevermind that
religion is wallowing in bucks, and seeking more every day. Tell you
what, give up your tax exemptions for your religious activities, and
I'll forego my (nonexistant) grants. Deal?
HB
No deal. How about you stop forcing Christian taxpayers to pay for
the teaching of evolution in public schools.
Maybe we could allow secular-atheist schools, who want to teach
evolution, to be funded purely by tax exemptions and atheist
donations? Then the playing field would be level.
Can I have my taxes not go for this dangerous war? Can I not pay for
the useless counter-productive *war* on drugs? IOW how much freedom do
you really support?
Joan Baez did this in the 60's she declared all her income, but refused to
pay a percentage.
The government came and got the money, along with penalties, etc.
She broke no law and held to the courage of her convictions.
Those christians who don't cheat on their taxes could do the same. Since the
percentage dedicated to the teaching of evolution is so small, the
government probably would make no effort to collect.
The christian would have made a statement, kept an extra dime or so and
could have given it to god.
As long as they didn't cheat on their taxes...
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Ye Old One" |
|
| Title: Re: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
22 Dec 2006 05:55:39 PM |
|
|
On 22 Dec 2006 15:05:21 -0800, enriched this group when
s/he wrote:
Lurkalot wrote:
Read it and weep, Bible-weenies!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6201373.stm
Mr M.
I read it. But rather than weep, I laughed.
On the speciation link, what has occurred is that they have falsified
the claim that the two butterflies were "two different species." If you
take two so-called "different species" and succesfully interbreed them,
producing offspring that can also reproduce, you have just falsified
that they are two separate species.
Where do you get that idea from?
--
Bob.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Mark VandeWettering" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
22 Dec 2006 06:47:45 PM |
|
|
["Followup-To:" header set to talk.origins.]
On 2006-12-22, <> wrote:
Lurkalot wrote:
Read it and weep, Bible-weenies!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6201373.stm
Mr M.
I read it. But rather than weep, I laughed.
On the speciation link, what has occurred is that they have falsified
the claim that the two butterflies were "two different species." If you
take two so-called "different species" and succesfully interbreed them,
producing offspring that can also reproduce, you have just falsified
that they are two separate species.
Only if you didn't take (or at least didn't understand) high school
biology class.
This is exactly the type of thing that Creationists should do every
time evolutionists claim "Hey look! A new species! Now give me more
grant money, foolish taxpayers!"
You evolutionists just disproved one of your "new species." How
embarrassing.
It's odd that learning is considered a vice by creationists.
Mark
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
22 Dec 2006 10:14:51 AM |
|
|
Now, Now. You know that any minute now the various Creation Institutes
are going to announce discoveries in applied magic, and let everyone
know that all diseases have been conquered through applied prayer.
Science? We don't need no stinkin' science!
HB
Lurkalot wrote:
Read it and weep, Bible-weenies!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6201373.stm
Mr M.
.
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
22 Dec 2006 10:40:08 AM |
|
|
wrote:
Now, Now. You know that any minute now the various Creation Institutes
are going to announce discoveries in applied magic, and let everyone
know that all diseases have been conquered through applied prayer.
Science? We don't need no stinkin' science!
HB
Lurkalot wrote:
Read it and weep, Bible-weenies!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6201373.stm
Mr M.
Are they taking requests? I'd love to be given the ability to walk on
water.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Pithecanthropus Erectus" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
22 Dec 2006 06:58:39 PM |
|
|
wrote:
hbarwood@troy.edu wrote:
Now, Now. You know that any minute now the various Creation Institutes
are going to announce discoveries in applied magic, and let everyone
know that all diseases have been conquered through applied prayer.
Science? We don't need no stinkin' science!
HB
Lurkalot wrote:
Read it and weep, Bible-weenies!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6201373.stm
Mr M.
Are they taking requests? I'd love to be given the ability to walk on
water.
It's merely a matter of selecting water that is at the proper temperature.
--
“What concerns me now is that even if you’re as brilliant as Newton, you
reach a point where you start basking in the majesty of God and then
your discovery stops — it just stops,” Dr. Tyson said. “You’re no good
anymore for advancing that frontier, waiting for somebody else to come
behind you who doesn’t have God on the brain and who says: ‘That’s a
really cool problem. I want to solve it.’
.
|
|
|
| User: "Bobby Bryant" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
22 Dec 2006 08:47:46 PM |
|
|
In article <tJednRPHJbfc4hHYnZ2dnUVZ_ovinZ2d@comcast.com>,
Pithecanthropus Erectus <notphalennotwebnotcontentnot@oohay.com> writes:
moxmaniac@gmail.com wrote:
hbarwood@troy.edu wrote:
Now, Now. You know that any minute now the various Creation Institutes
are going to announce discoveries in applied magic, and let everyone
know that all diseases have been conquered through applied prayer.
Science? We don't need no stinkin' science!
Lurkalot wrote:
Read it and weep, Bible-weenies!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6201373.stm
Are they taking requests? I'd love to be given the ability to walk on
water.
It's merely a matter of selecting water that is at the proper temperature.
Yes, they have that kind of water up here. I watched a gaggle of geese
walk on some just this morning.
--
Bobby Bryant
Reno, Nevada
Remove your hat to reply by e-mail.
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
22 Dec 2006 11:57:24 AM |
|
|
wrote:
hbarwood@troy.edu wrote:
Now, Now. You know that any minute now the various Creation Institutes
are going to announce discoveries in applied magic, and let everyone
know that all diseases have been conquered through applied prayer.
Science? We don't need no stinkin' science!
HB
Lurkalot wrote:
Read it and weep, Bible-weenies!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6201373.stm
Mr M.
Are they taking requests? I'd love to be given the ability to walk on
water.
Water into wine = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
|
| Title: Re: 2006's scientific advances.... |
24 Dec 2006 07:39:12 PM |
|
|
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:06:04 GMT, "Lurkalot" <Lurkalot@virgin.net>
wrote:
Read it and weep, Bible-weenies!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6201373.stm
Mr M.
Gaaah. Math! *flees*
..
.
|
|
|
|
|
Related Articles |
|
|
