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16 Sep 2007 03:32:45 PM |
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2007: The Year The Global Warming Hoax Died |
http://www.conservativetruth.org/article.php?id=42
The Year The Global Warming Hoax Died
September 3, 2007
By Alan Caruba
When did the global warming hoax die? Historians are likely to
pinpoint 2007. It will take another decade to insure it cannot be
revived, but the avalanche of scientific studies and the cumulative
impact of scientists who have publicly joined those who debunked the
lies on which it has been based will be noted as the tipping point.
It took some forty years to unmask the Piltdown Man hoax that began in
1912 alleging that the skull of an ancient ancestor of man had been
found in England. Any number of British anthropologists unwittingly
contributed to the hoax by confirming the authenticity of the skull
until it was found that the jaw of an orangutan had been cunningly
attached. The unmasking of "global warming" has taken well under than
half that time.
The hoax has mainly been a creation of the United Nations
Environmental Program and took off in earnest with the 1992 Earth
Summit. It culminated in 1997 with the Kyoto Climate Control Protocol,
an agreement to reduce the generation of carbon dioxide, a
"greenhouse" gas (CO2) said to be the cause of an accelerated warming
of the earth. By 2005, 140 nations had ratified the pact, agreeing to
reduce CO2 emissions. Notably exempt from the pact were nations such
as China and India. Few, if any, nations have ever met the limits that
require reductions in CO2 production, primarily the result of the use
of so-called "fossil fuels" such as oil, natural gas, and coal.
The United States refused to ratify the Kyoto Protocol and, at one
point, the U.S. Senate unanimously passed a resolution rejecting it.
This has not kept the U.S. from spending billions on so-called
"climate research" intended to address climate change with the aim of
reducing or capturing CO2 emissions. Had that money been devoted to
maintenance of the nation's infrastructure, tragic events such as the
collapse of the Minnesota bridge over the Mississippi might have been
averted.
In August, it was revealed that NASA scientists had corrected an error
that resulted in 1934 replacing 1998 as the warmest year on record in
the U.S. Repeatedly the data put forth to justify the global warming
hoax has been debunked.
As Dr. David Wojick recently noted, "The real significance is that
such a small correction can make such a big difference. The reason is
that the much touted warming of the last three decades is merely a
return to earlier warm times, after an equally long period of cooling...
There is no way this pattern constitutes a warming trend...In short,
there is no evidence for human-induced global warming in the U.S.
temperature record."
"Anthropogenic (man-made) global warming bites the dust," declared
astronomer Dr. Ian Wilson after reviewing a new study that has been
accepted for publication in the Journal of Geophysical Research
authored by a Brookhaven National Lab scientist Stephen Schwartz. A
former Harvard physicist, Dr. Lubos Motl, said the new study has
reduced global warming fear-mongers to "playing the children's game to
scare each other."
The new research concludes that the Earth's climate is only about one-
third as sensitive to carbon dioxide as a series of reports by the
UN's International Panel on Climate Change has asserted for years. The
IPCC reports have been increasingly dismissed as deliberate
distortions of data that amount to little more than propaganda to
advance the "global warming" hoax.
Having testified before the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment &
Public Works, paleoclimate scientist Bob Carter noted in a June 18,
2007 essay that global warming has stopped. There has been little, if
any, global warming since 1979, a period over which atmospheric CO2
has increased by 17 percent. Thus, the connection between CO2 and
"global warming", the key to the claims that it is occurring and will
increase has been proven wrong.
Prior to and during 2007, one research study after another revealed
that the central premise of "global warming" lacks any scientific
merit. One by Dr. Tim Patterson concluded that, "The earth temperature
does respond to the solar cycle as confirmed by numerous studies." The
solar cycle is known to be about eleven years in length and reflects
increased or decreased sunspot (magnetic storms) activity. It is the
Sun that largely determines the Earth's temperature, which is never
the same throughout the planet, given seasonal and solar changes.
In 2007, meteorologist Anthony Watts who led a team of researchers
revealed that, "The U.S. National Climate Data Center is in the middle
of a scandal. Their global observing network, the heart and soul of
surface weather measurement, is a disaster." It had been discovered
that many of the measuring stations were placed in locations such as
on hot black asphalt, next to trash burn barrels, beside heat exhaust
vents, and even attached to hot chimneys and above outdoor grills!
In May 2007, Dr. Reid Bryson, the founding chairman of the Department
of Meteorology at the University of Wisconsin dismissed fears of
increased man-made CO2 in the atmosphere. He called the "global
warming" argument "absurd." As to any increase in the Earth's
temperature, he said, "Of course it's going up. It has gone up since
the early 1800s, before the industrial Revolution, because we're
coming out of the Little Ice Age, not because we're putting carbon
dioxide in the air."
On August 15, 2007, meteorologist Joseph D'Aleo, the first Director of
Meteorology at The Weather Channel and former chairman of the American
Meteorological Society's Committee on Weather Analysis and
Forecasting, said, "If the atmosphere was a 100 story building, our
annual anthropogenic (man-made) CO2 contribution today would be
equivalent to the linoleum on the first floor."
When Newsweek magazine recently devoted a cover story calling the
growing international body of scientists debunking global warming
"deniers", it was forced to debunk itself when one of its own editors
called the article "highly contrived" and "fundamentally misleading."
Thus, it will be people like former Vice President Al Gore or actor
Leonardo DiCaprio, whose reputations are now heavily invested in the
"global warming" hoax, who will continue to fight a rear-guard action.
The mainstream media is likely to be supportive until it too is forced
to admit the truth of the science regarding the Earth's climate.
There will be dying gasps to this hoax, not the least of which is a
planned $100 million media blitz by Al Gore's Alliance for Climate
Protection, but the public is already far more concerned about
instability in the Middle East, the forthcoming national elections,
and shocks to the U.S. economy to accord such an effort much
credibility.
Hoaxes have a life of their own and "global warming" is now coming to
an end. Mark 2007 as the year it began to seriously bleed to death.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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19 Sep 2007 10:31:12 AM |
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Michael Ejercito wrote:
On Sep 18, 6:30 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:40:46 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 18, 10:11 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:23:29 -0700, mrbawana2u
<mrbawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you have any solutions besides oppressive government
Everyone do what's necessary without government force. Of course
that won't work, but it's the kind of solution you want.
You seem to imply that the threat of violence is needed to deal
with global warming.
Is a speed limit a "threat of violence"? Is a stop sign a "threat of
violence"? Making laws isn't threatening violence.
And what happens if people BREAK those laws?
The response is various. It is not always violent or even with the threat of
violence.
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| User: "" |
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20 Sep 2007 07:06:37 AM |
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:31:12 -0400, "Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com>
wrote:
Michael Ejercito wrote:
On Sep 18, 6:30 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:40:46 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 18, 10:11 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:23:29 -0700, mrbawana2u
<mrbawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you have any solutions besides oppressive government
Everyone do what's necessary without government force. Of course
that won't work, but it's the kind of solution you want.
You seem to imply that the threat of violence is needed to deal
with global warming.
Is a speed limit a "threat of violence"? Is a stop sign a "threat of
violence"? Making laws isn't threatening violence.
And what happens if people BREAK those laws?
The response is various. It is not always violent or even with the threat of
violence.
But it CAN be violent, as needed. You can be forced off the road,
dragged out of your car, thrown to the ground, and hauled off to jail.
Normally drivers aren't stupid enough to try the patience of the
police and submit quietly to their authority, yes. But the implied
threat is always present.
--
John Conyers' comments about Bill Clinton pardoning convicted
terrorists:
"Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to what is clearly a
politically motivated and totally senseless resolution. We are a
Nation of laws, and if any matter is abundantly clear by our
Constitution, it is that the President has the sole and unitary power
to grant clemency. Is there any Member that does not understand that?
Every President has the sole and unitary power to grant clemency. Now
the reason that he has the power to grant clemency is that it is that
the President is uniquely positioned to consider the law and the facts
that apply in each request for clemency."
[EXPRESSING THE SENSE OF THE CONGRESS THAT THE PRESIDENT SHOULD NOT
HAVE GRANTED CLEMENCY TO TERRORISTS] (House of Representatives -
September 09, 1999). Passed 311-41; 72 voted "present", Conyers voted
NAY)
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| User: "Geoff" |
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20 Sep 2007 08:46:24 AM |
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wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:31:12 -0400, "Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com>
wrote:
Michael Ejercito wrote:
On Sep 18, 6:30 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:40:46 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 18, 10:11 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:23:29 -0700, mrbawana2u
<mrbawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you have any solutions besides oppressive government
Everyone do what's necessary without government force. Of course
that won't work, but it's the kind of solution you want.
You seem to imply that the threat of violence is needed to deal
with global warming.
Is a speed limit a "threat of violence"? Is a stop sign a "threat
of violence"? Making laws isn't threatening violence.
And what happens if people BREAK those laws?
The response is various. It is not always violent or even with the
threat of violence.
But it CAN be violent, as needed.
I never even implied it wasn't.
You can be forced off the road,
dragged out of your car, thrown to the ground, and hauled off to jail.
Normally drivers aren't stupid enough to try the patience of the
police and submit quietly to their authority, yes. But the implied
threat is always present.
But we are not talking about road stops by police here. The thread, if you
care to trace it back, was concerning governmental regulation of industry.
If you think a threat of violence is even one of the ways to enforce
regulatory laws, let alone "always present", then I'd say you are probably
an antigovernment paranoid on par with Randy Weaver.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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20 Sep 2007 01:43:47 PM |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 05:06:37 -0700, wrote:
But it CAN be violent, as needed. You can be forced off the road,
dragged out of your car, thrown to the ground, and hauled off to jail.
You can be robbed and killed too, but that's no more legal than being
forced off the road, dragged out of your car, thrown to the ground,
and hauled off to jail for a traffic violation.
Normally drivers aren't stupid enough to try the patience of the
police and submit quietly to their authority, yes. But the implied
threat is always present.
The implied threat as a RESPONSE to violence - which is entirely
justified. "Punching bag" is NOT part of the job description of "law
enforcement officer".
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at
Bozo the Clown."
- Carl Sagan
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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19 Sep 2007 10:15:35 AM |
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:12:33 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 18, 6:30 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:40:46 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 18, 10:11 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:23:29 -0700, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Do you have any solutions besides oppressive government
Everyone do what's necessary without government force. Of course that
won't work, but it's the kind of solution you want.
You seem to imply that the threat of violence is needed to deal
with global warming.
Is a speed limit a "threat of violence"? Is a stop sign a "threat of
violence"? Making laws isn't threatening violence.
And what happens if people BREAK those laws?
Maybe where you live the police get violent, but in the real world the
threat of a fine is enough to keep most people from breaking them.
Unless you consider laws to be government violence, in which case I
suggest that you live where there is no government of any sort (which
would require total isolation from reality).
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at
Bozo the Clown."
- Carl Sagan
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| User: "Michael Ejercito" |
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19 Sep 2007 03:47:33 PM |
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On Sep 19, 8:15 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:12:33 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 18, 6:30 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:40:46 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 18, 10:11 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:23:29 -0700, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Do you have any solutions besides oppressive government
Everyone do what's necessary without government force. Of course that
won't work, but it's the kind of solution you want.
You seem to imply that the threat of violence is needed to deal
with global warming.
Is a speed limit a "threat of violence"? Is a stop sign a "threat of
violence"? Making laws isn't threatening violence.
And what happens if people BREAK those laws?
Maybe where you live the police get violent, but in the real world the
threat of a fine is enough to keep most people from breaking them.
And if people tell the governments to take the fines and shove it
up their recta?
Unless you consider laws to be government violence, in which case I
suggest that you live where there is no government of any sort (which
would require total isolation from reality).
--
All laws are backed up with the threat of violence.
God's Law is backed up with the threat of eternal torment in Hell.
Michael
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| User: "Geoff" |
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20 Sep 2007 01:23:38 AM |
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Michael Ejercito wrote:
On Sep 19, 8:15 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:12:33 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 18, 6:30 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:40:46 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 18, 10:11 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:23:29 -0700, mrbawana2u
<mrbawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you have any solutions besides oppressive government
Everyone do what's necessary without government force. Of
course that won't work, but it's the kind of solution you want.
You seem to imply that the threat of violence is needed to deal
with global warming.
Is a speed limit a "threat of violence"? Is a stop sign a "threat
of violence"? Making laws isn't threatening violence.
And what happens if people BREAK those laws?
Maybe where you live the police get violent, but in the real world
the threat of a fine is enough to keep most people from breaking
them.
And if people tell the governments to take the fines and shove it
up their recta?
Unless you consider laws to be government violence, in which case I
suggest that you live where there is no government of any sort (which
would require total isolation from reality).
--
All laws are backed up with the threat of violence.
Wrong.
God's Law is backed up with the threat of eternal torment in Hell.
Nice guy. Glad he doesn't exist.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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19 Sep 2007 08:04:56 PM |
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:47:33 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 19, 8:15 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
Maybe where you live the police get violent, but in the real world the
threat of a fine is enough to keep most people from breaking them.
And if people tell the governments to take the fines and shove it
up their recta?
Where is that happening, again?
Unless you consider laws to be government violence, in which case I
suggest that you live where there is no government of any sort (which
would require total isolation from reality).
All laws are backed up with the threat of violence.
If you consider fines and prison sentences violent.
God's Law is backed up with the threat of eternal torment in Hell.
That's a fairy tale.
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at
Bozo the Clown."
- Carl Sagan
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| User: "Michael Ejercito" |
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20 Sep 2007 09:29:37 AM |
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On Sep 19, 6:04 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:47:33 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 19, 8:15 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
Maybe where you live the police get violent, but in the real world the
threat of a fine is enough to keep most people from breaking them.
And if people tell the governments to take the fines and shove it
up their recta?
Where is that happening, again?
Unless you consider laws to be government violence, in which case I
suggest that you live where there is no government of any sort (which
would require total isolation from reality).
All laws are backed up with the threat of violence.
If you consider fines and prison sentences violent.
And what happens if people REFUSE to go to prison?
God's Law is backed up with the threat of eternal torment in Hell.
That's a fairy tale.
So you write.
Michael
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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20 Sep 2007 01:52:22 PM |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:29:37 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
If you consider fines and prison sentences violent.
And what happens if people REFUSE to go to prison?
That's like a child refusing to not have dessert. They can refuse to
go to prison all they like, from behind the prison bars, which is
where they'll be whether they refuse or not.
The government not only has a right to enforce the law, it has a DUTY
to do so. If you think not, what will you do - if the government has
no right to enforce laws - when I beat you to within an inch of your
life, leaving you permanently crippled, and steal everything of value
that you own? Remember - there's no law to stop me in your preferred
scenario, and there's no law for you to use to seek redress. Survival
of the first to pull the trigger? We stopped doing that when we
started living in bands - about 60 million years ago (or longer).
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at
Bozo the Clown."
- Carl Sagan
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| User: "" |
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18 Sep 2007 09:33:45 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:30:54 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:40:46 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 18, 10:11 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:23:29 -0700, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Do you have any solutions besides oppressive government
Everyone do what's necessary without government force. Of course that
won't work, but it's the kind of solution you want.
You seem to imply that the threat of violence is needed to deal
with global warming.
Is a speed limit a "threat of violence"?
Try going 70 in a 35mph zone in front of a cop.
Is a stop sign a "threat of
violence"?
Try running one in front of a cop.
Making laws isn't threatening violence.
The power to make law implies the power to cause violence if you
disobey the law. W/O that implied threat the State would be unable to
enforce the laws it makes.
If the government - any government; pick one - deems global warming
threatening enough to legislate the behavior of its citizens then it
must also be able to ENFORCE the law(s) it makes. Say you have some
clod who flies around in private jets instead of flying first class
when he can. The government bans the use of private jets when
commercial air, land, or sea travel is available, Al Gore gets on his
jet anyway, if they can't arrest him when he lands he might as well
ignore the law and take off again as he pleases.
--
John Conyers' comments about Bill Clinton pardoning convicted
terrorists:
"Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to what is clearly a
politically motivated and totally senseless resolution. We are a
Nation of laws, and if any matter is abundantly clear by our
Constitution, it is that the President has the sole and unitary power
to grant clemency. Is there any Member that does not understand that?
Every President has the sole and unitary power to grant clemency. Now
the reason that he has the power to grant clemency is that it is that
the President is uniquely positioned to consider the law and the facts
that apply in each request for clemency."
[EXPRESSING THE SENSE OF THE CONGRESS THAT THE PRESIDENT SHOULD NOT
HAVE GRANTED CLEMENCY TO TERRORISTS] (House of Representatives -
September 09, 1999). Passed 311-41; 72 voted "present", Conyers voted
NAY)
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| User: "Geoff" |
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19 Sep 2007 10:30:05 AM |
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wrote:
Is a speed limit a "threat of violence"?
Try going 70 in a 35mph zone in front of a cop.
Is a stop sign a "threat of
violence"?
Try running one in front of a cop.
Making laws isn't threatening violence.
The power to make law implies the power to cause violence if you
disobey the law.
How you equate environmental regulation with criminal justice is beyond me.
I see that highway patrolman's gun is the "threat" though it is seldom
employed. But what is the "threat of violence" with industrial regulation?
W/O that implied threat the State would be unable to
enforce the laws it makes.
With environmental regulation, the countermeasure is a hefty fine, a spike
in insurance premiums, adverse public reaction, loss of political goodwill,
etc. What threat of violence?
If the government - any government; pick one - deems global warming
threatening enough to legislate the behavior of its citizens then it
must also be able to ENFORCE the law(s) it makes. Say you have some
clod who flies around in private jets instead of flying first class
when he can. The government bans the use of private jets when
commercial air, land, or sea travel is available, Al Gore gets on his
jet anyway, if they can't arrest him when he lands he might as well
ignore the law and take off again as he pleases.
Well that's linear thinking at best. Try thinking of other ways you can
reduce demand for something.
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| User: "mrbawana2u" |
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18 Sep 2007 06:42:04 PM |
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On Sep 18, 1:11 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:23:29 -0700,mrbawana2u<mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Do you have any solutions besides oppressive government
Everyone do what's necessary without government force.
Of course that
won't work, but it's the kind of solution you want.
See, you tards have no solutions but government force.
Pathetic.
Or we could simply prove that there's no warming, so nothing needs to
be done. Have a ball.
There is warming, tard. That's what air conditioning is for.
You tards need to move on to your next scam.
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| User: "columbiaaccidentinvestigation" |
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18 Sep 2007 06:47:13 PM |
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On Sep 18, 4:42 pm, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:you" ..."have no solutions but government force."
try visiting us-cap.org and you will find the free market working, as
companies are voluntrarily reducing emmisions of green house gasses
without "government force", (try again) as you have a straw man
argument and it fails terribly....
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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18 Sep 2007 08:33:25 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:42:04 -0700, mrbawana2u <mrbawana2u@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sep 18, 1:11 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:23:29 -0700,mrbawana2u<mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Do you have any solutions besides oppressive government
Everyone do what's necessary without government force.
Of course that
won't work, but it's the kind of solution you want.
See, you tards have no solutions but government force.
Pathetic.
And you have what solution?
Or we could simply prove that there's no warming, so nothing needs to
be done. Have a ball.
There is warming, tard. That's what air conditioning is for.
Oh, you mean burning MORE fossil fuels to produce electricity for the
air conditioners - adding even MORE CO2 to the mix? Could you explain
to us 'tards exactly how that lowers average global temperature?
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at
Bozo the Clown."
- Carl Sagan
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| User: "Michael Ejercito" |
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19 Sep 2007 09:17:39 AM |
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On Sep 18, 6:33 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:42:04 -0700, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sep 18, 1:11 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:23:29 -0700,mrbawana2u<mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Do you have any solutions besides oppressive government
Everyone do what's necessary without government force.
Of course that
won't work, but it's the kind of solution you want.
See, you tards have no solutions but government force.
Pathetic.
And you have what solution?
Carl Sagan gave us a clue back in 1983.
Michael
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| User: "Geoff" |
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19 Sep 2007 10:32:09 AM |
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Michael Ejercito wrote:
On Sep 18, 6:33 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:42:04 -0700, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sep 18, 1:11 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:23:29 -0700,mrbawana2u<mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Do you have any solutions besides oppressive government
Everyone do what's necessary without government force.
Of course that
won't work, but it's the kind of solution you want.
See, you tards have no solutions but government force.
Pathetic.
And you have what solution?
Carl Sagan gave us a clue back in 1983.
Lame.
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| User: "mrbawana2u" |
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| Title: Re: Lib-tards love absurdity and pseudo-science (code pink groups clipped) |
19 Sep 2007 11:02:28 AM |
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On Sep 19, 11:32 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
Michael Ejercito wrote:
On Sep 18, 6:33 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:42:04 -0700, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sep 18, 1:11 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:23:29 -0700,mrbawana2u<mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Do you have any solutions besides oppressive government
Everyone do what's necessary without government force.
Of course that
won't work, but it's the kind of solution you want.
See, you tards have no solutions but government force.
Pathetic.
And you have what solution?
Carl Sagan gave us a clue back in 1983.
Lame.
Only a sig?
See, you tards have no solutions but government force.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Lib-tards love absurdity and pseudo-science (code pink groups clipped) |
19 Sep 2007 02:22:48 PM |
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:02:28 -0700, mrbawana2u <mrbawana2u@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sep 19, 11:32 am, "Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
Michael Ejercito wrote:
On Sep 18, 6:33 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:42:04 -0700, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sep 18, 1:11 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:23:29 -0700,mrbawana2u<mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Do you have any solutions besides oppressive government
Everyone do what's necessary without government force.
Of course that
won't work, but it's the kind of solution you want.
See, you tards have no solutions but government force.
Pathetic.
And you have what solution?
Carl Sagan gave us a clue back in 1983.
Lame.
Only a sig?
See, you tards have no solutions but government force.
I haven't seen YOU post a realistic solution.
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at
Bozo the Clown."
- Carl Sagan
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: 2007: The Year The Global Warming Hoax Died |
19 Sep 2007 10:18:47 AM |
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On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:17:39 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 18, 6:33 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:42:04 -0700, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sep 18, 1:11 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:23:29 -0700,mrbawana2u<mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Do you have any solutions besides oppressive government
Everyone do what's necessary without government force.
Of course that
won't work, but it's the kind of solution you want.
See, you tards have no solutions but government force.
Pathetic.
And you have what solution?
Carl Sagan gave us a clue back in 1983.
A big clue - that you missed. The equivalent, using his analogy, is
standing knee-deep in gasoline and dropping a lit match into it
because it's a little chilly today.
Craniectomy is NOT a proper cure for headache, even though it DOES
make the pain stop.
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at
Bozo the Clown."
- Carl Sagan
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| User: "columbiaaccidentinvestigation" |
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| Title: Re: 2007: The Year The Global Warming Hoax Died |
17 Sep 2007 04:33:23 PM |
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On Sep 17, 2:23 pm, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com> wrote:" Do you
have any solutions besides oppressive government"
I don't need to give you any solutions, just go to the following link
below and you will find companies who are committed to voluntarily
reducing their own emissions of green house gases on their own, (so
why do climate change denialists have such a fear of "oppressive"
government, are they so conspiracy minded?),....
http://us-cap.org
Us-cap.org
"Welcome to the U.S. Climate Action Partnership (USCAP) Web Site
United States Climate Action Partnership (USCAP) is a group of
businesses and leading environmental organizations that have come
together to call on the federal government to quickly enact strong
national legislation to require significant reductions of greenhouse
gas emissions. USCAP has issued a landmark set of principles and
recommendations to underscore the urgent need for a policy framework
on climate change."
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| User: "Michael Ejercito" |
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| Title: Re: 2007: The Year The Global Warming Hoax Died |
17 Sep 2007 06:33:14 PM |
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On Sep 17, 2:33 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
<columbiaaccidentinvestigat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sep 17, 2:23 pm, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com> wrote:" Do you
have any solutions besides oppressive government"
I don't need to give you any solutions, just go to the following link
below and you will find companies who are committed to voluntarily
reducing their own emissions of green house gases on their own, (so
why do climate change denialists have such a fear of "oppressive"
government, are they so conspiracy minded?),....
Well, since people are doing it on their own, there is no need for
the Kyoto Treaty.
Michael
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| User: "mrbawana2u" |
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| Title: Re: 2007: The Year The Global Warming Hoax Died |
17 Sep 2007 05:31:00 PM |
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On Sep 17, 5:33 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
<columbiaaccidentinvestigat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sep 17, 2:23 pm, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com> wrote:" Do you
have any solutions besides oppressive government"
I don't need to give you any solutions, [...]
Just say you don't have any, tard.
That's the consensus;
No solutions, just doom and gloom.
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| User: "Bill Ward" |
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17 Sep 2007 06:36:19 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:31:00 -0700, mrbawana2u wrote:
On Sep 17, 5:33 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
<columbiaaccidentinvestigat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sep 17, 2:23 pm, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com> wrote:" Do you
have any solutions besides oppressive government"
I don't need to give you any solutions, [...]
Just say you don't have any, tard.
That's the consensus;
No solutions, just doom and gloom.
Their problem is that their problem is disappearing, and now they're
having trouble scaring anybody into falling for their "solution".
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| User: "columbiaaccidentinvestigation" |
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17 Sep 2007 06:39:17 PM |
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On Sep 17, 4:36 pm, Bill Ward <bw...@REMOVETHISix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:31:00 -0700, mrbawana2u wrote:
On Sep 17, 5:33 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
<columbiaaccidentinvestigat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sep 17, 2:23 pm, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com> wrote:" Do you
have any solutions besides oppressive government"
I don't need to give you any solutions, [...]
Just say you don't have any, tard.
That's the consensus;
No solutions, just doom and gloom.
Their problem is that their problem is disappearing, and now they're
having trouble scaring anybody into falling for their "solution".
thats a little parnoid itself who is they, and who is us... Are you
spreading climate change denialist information by attempting to label
people, by asking rhetorical questions, making statements of illogic,
while at the same time protecting your ignorance, and acting like a
cultist of denialist, mmmm...
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| User: "columbiaaccidentinvestigation" |
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17 Sep 2007 05:43:56 PM |
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On Sep 17, 3:31 pm, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com> wrote:"Just say
you don't No solutions, just doom and gloom."
I guess if you don't have a fear of the "oppressive government" doing
things, your worried about my solutions (as if I could control alcoa,
dupont, xerox etc and tell them what to do) or maybe you went to the
site us-cap.org and saw what you didn't want to see, and that is
companies acting on their on behalf to reduce emissions of green house
gasses, but instead like always you need to attack some body because
you don't like what you saw, please don't project your insecurities
onto others it really doesn't show that you are a stable person....
http://us-cap.org
Us-cap.org
"Welcome to the U.S. Climate Action Partnership (USCAP) Web Site
United States Climate Action Partnership (USCAP) is a group of
businesses and leading environmental organizations that have come
together to call on the federal government to quickly enact strong
national legislation to require significant reductions of greenhouse
gas emissions. USCAP has issued a landmark set of principles and
recommendations to underscore the urgent need for a policy framework
on climate change."
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| User: "mrbawana2u" |
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| Title: Re: 2007: The Year The Global Warming Hoax Died |
17 Sep 2007 06:23:45 PM |
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On Sep 17, 6:43 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation
<columbiaaccidentinvestigat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sep 17, 3:31 pm, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Just say you don't have any, tard.
That's the consensus;
No solutions, just doom and gloom.
is a group of
businesses and leading environmental organizations that have come
together to call on the federal government to quickly enact strong
national legislation to require significant reductions of greenhouse
gas emissions.
Oppressive government, tard. No solutions.
That's why most people don't trust you no solution,
government loving, co2agw cultists.
The consensus is in:
You doom and gloom tards have been around forever and you haven't been
correct yet.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: 2007: The Year The Global Warming Hoax Died |
18 Sep 2007 12:13:21 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:23:45 -0700, mrbawana2u <mrbawana2u@gmail.com>
wrote:
Oppressive government, tard. No solutions.
So you think we should just keep polluting the world until we're all
dead, and THAT'S a "solution"?
YOU come up with a better solution than government regulation if you
don't like that one.
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at
Bozo the Clown."
- Carl Sagan
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| User: "Michael Ejercito" |
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| Title: Re: 2007: The Year The Global Warming Hoax Died |
18 Sep 2007 05:39:52 PM |
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On Sep 18, 10:13 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:23:45 -0700, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Oppressive government, tard. No solutions.
So you think we should just keep polluting the world until we're all
dead, and THAT'S a "solution"?
If you watch the debate between Carl Sagan and William Buckley that
first aired after the broadcast of The Day After in 1983, you can get
a big clue as to what the solution is.
Michael
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: 2007: The Year The Global Warming Hoax Died |
18 Sep 2007 08:31:06 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:39:52 -0700, Michael Ejercito
<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 18, 10:13 am, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:23:45 -0700, mrbawana2u <mrbawan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Oppressive government, tard. No solutions.
So you think we should just keep polluting the world until we're all
dead, and THAT'S a "solution"?
If you watch the debate between Carl Sagan and William Buckley that
first aired after the broadcast of The Day After in 1983, you can get
a big clue as to what the solution is.
Link?
--
Al at Webdingers dot com
"They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at
Bozo the Clown."
- Carl Sagan
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