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"J Young" |
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17 Nov 2005 12:36:16 AM |
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21 Ways to be a Good Democrat |
This is not a J Young original but it is on the money.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=9365
21 Ways to be a Good Democrat
You have to . be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.
.. believe that businesses create oppression and governments create
opportunity.
.. believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens are more of a
threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and
North Korean communists.
.. believe that there was no art before federal funding.
.. believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical documented
changes in the earth's climate and more affected by soccer moms driving
SUVs.
.. believe that gender roles are artificial, but being homosexual is natural.
.. believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.
.. believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th-graders how to read is
somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.
.. believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists, who
have never been outside of San Francisco, do.
.. believe that self-esteem is more important that actually doing something
to earn it.
.. believe that Mel Gibson spent $25 million of is on money to make The
Passion of The Christ for financial gain only.
.. believe that the NRA is bad because it support certain parts of the
Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of
the Constitution.
.. believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.
.. believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to
American history than Thomas Jefferson, Gen. Robert E. Lee and Thomas
Edison.
.. believe that standardized tests are racist but quotas and set-asides are
not.
.. believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and a very nice person.
.. believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere in history
that it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.
.. believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and a
sex offender belonged in the White House.
.. believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites, and
bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at
Christmas should be illegal.
.. believe that illegal Democratic Party funding by the Chinese government is
somehow in the best interest of the United States.
.. believe that this message is part of a vast, right-wing conspiracy.
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: 21 Ways to be a Good Democrat |
18 Nov 2005 11:26:38 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <200511181903038930%DipthotDipthot@YahooYahooComCom>, 655321
<DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
On 2005-11-18 14:04:05 -0800, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> said:
Their delivery of socialized medicine is a failure at health care in my
mind. Evidently in the mind of their wealthier citizens too.
Where you can show more delivery, you can show success. Where you can
show lack of delivery, you can show failiure. You really can't call it a
failure just by referring to it as "socialized."
She did say in her "mind." Which explains why she sees failure everywhere...
:)
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| User: "Olrik" |
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| Title: Re: 21 Ways to be a Good Democrat |
19 Nov 2005 12:07:56 AM |
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georgann wrote:
Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Only a democrat couldn't know this is true.
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
So it's "socialism?" So what? We're the only industrial nation without a
national health system. The only one. If national health is such a bad idea,
why are we the only ones without it?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
What is that? Failure envy?
Elroy Willis wrote:
All other nations are failures in your mind?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Their delivery of socialized medicine is a failure at health care in my
mind.
Your mind is of no concern. Universal medecine is a great success
everywhere. It's not perfect, of course, nor is your system.
BTW, maybe you should apply your ideas about medecine to the military.
Is your military system a bit socialized, perhaps? Shouldn't you
subscribe to a private militia, with your choice of generals?
Evidently in the mind of their wealthier citizens too.
The wealthy can do whatever they want. Frankly, they don't bog down the
emergencies, the minor procedures or surgery services. We're talking
about millions of people like you who should get better health care.
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| User: "Virgil" |
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17 Nov 2005 04:50:44 PM |
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In article <BFA2139C.92718%chenault@mindspring.com>,
georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
• Ninure Saunders wrote:
Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Only a democrat couldn't know this is true.
Given the choice between socialism, with a small 's', and the sort of
totalitarianism the shrub is pushing, a reasonable person might well
prefer the former.
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| User: "georgann" |
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| Title: Re: 21 Ways to be a Good Democrat |
17 Nov 2005 06:54:57 PM |
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• Ninure Saunders wrote:
Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Only a democrat couldn't know this is true.
Virgil wrote:
Given the choice between socialism, with a small 's', and the sort of
totalitarianism the shrub is pushing, a reasonable person might well prefer
the former.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
A reasonable person might know that neither a 4 nor 8 year term as president
could result in the totalitarianism you see creeping up from dark corners.
I suspect the dark corners have nothing to do with the present
administration nor its policies but your own ideas of what is to come.
--
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«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
Iglesia ni Cristo A CULT
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/i20.html#cult
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| User: "655321" |
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18 Nov 2005 09:00:38 PM |
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On 2005-11-17 16:54:57 -0800, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> said:
A reasonable person might know that neither a 4 nor 8 year term as president
could result in the totalitarianism you see creeping up from dark corners.
No, it's a growing even contempt toward the middle and lower classes
among the citizens with greater political economic and political clout
on which the current administration is feeding.
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GlennGlenn (655321) -- aa#825 --
"Genocide is used sparingly by God in only extreme circumstances." -Jim Spaza
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| User: "georgann" |
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19 Nov 2005 06:10:11 AM |
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A reasonable person might know that neither a 4 nor 8 year term as president
could result in the totalitarianism you see creeping up from dark corners.
655321 wrote:
No, it's a growing even contempt toward the middle and lower classes among the
citizens with greater political economic and political clout on which the
current administration is feeding.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Sweetie, nothing has changed much in the demographics of the 2000 and 2004
presidential election.
Its the coastal liberal elite with the big pocket-books and big whinners
that have growing contempt for this administration whereas in
fly-over-country, the red states where regular people work and live (mostly
middle and lower classes you claim to quote) - the same people who elected W
are not at all contemptuous of this administration.
They're relieved.
--
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«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
Iglesia ni Cristo A CULT
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/i20.html#cult
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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20 Nov 2005 09:37:16 AM |
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In <BFA48052.932E3%chenault@mindspring.com>, georgann
<chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
A reasonable person might know that neither a 4 nor 8 year term as
president could result in the totalitarianism you see creeping up from
dark corners.
655321 wrote:
No, it's a growing even contempt toward the middle and lower classes
among the citizens with greater political economic and political clout
on which the current administration is feeding.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Sweetie, nothing has changed much in the demographics of the 2000 and 2004
presidential election.
Its the coastal liberal elite with the big pocket-books and big whinners
that have growing contempt for this administration whereas in
fly-over-country, the red states where regular people work and live
(mostly middle and lower classes you claim to quote) - the same people who
elected W are not at all contemptuous of this administration.
Then explain Bush having a 60% DISapproval rating nationally.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Liz" |
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19 Nov 2005 06:23:31 AM |
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On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:10:11 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
in news message <BFA48052.932E3%chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
A reasonable person might know that neither a 4 nor 8 year term as president
could result in the totalitarianism you see creeping up from dark corners.
655321 wrote:
No, it's a growing even contempt toward the middle and lower classes among the
citizens with greater political economic and political clout on which the
current administration is feeding.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Sweetie, nothing has changed much in the demographics of the 2000 and 2004
presidential election.
Its the coastal liberal elite with the big pocket-books and big whinners
that have growing contempt for this administration whereas in
fly-over-country, the red states where regular people work and live (mostly
middle and lower classes you claim to quote) - the same people who elected W
are not at all contemptuous of this administration.
They're relieved.
How do you explain the drop in approval rating of the President and
his administration from 87% to 37% ?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/14/bush.poll/
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "georgann" |
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19 Nov 2005 06:50:10 AM |
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georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Sweetie, nothing has changed much in the demographics of the 2000 and 2004
presidential election.
Its the coastal liberal elite with the big pocket-books and big whinners that
have growing contempt for this administration whereas in fly-over-country,
the red states where regular people work and live (mostly middle and lower
classes you claim to quote) - the same people who elected W are not at all
contemptuous of this administration.
They're relieved.
Liz wrote:
How do you explain the drop in approval rating of the President and his
administration from 87% to 37% ?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/14/bush.poll/
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
""Sixty percent of the 1,006 adult Americans interviewed by telephone Friday
through Sunday said they disapprove of how Bush is handling his job as
president.""
60% of 1006 individuals polled ... hum. Just how far off of the overall
election results do you think these polls can possibly get?
In a 51 / 49% election its bound to look somewhat cockeyed from just about
every angle on just about every question.
--
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«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: 21 Ways to be a Good Democrat |
20 Nov 2005 09:39:50 AM |
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In <BFA489B1.93420%chenault@mindspring.com>, georgann
<chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
60% of 1006 individuals polled ... hum. Just how far off of the overall
election results do you think these polls can possibly get?
About 3% margin of error on average. Which means his disapproval rating
could be as high 63%.
Don't know much about statistics do you?
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Mark K. Bilbo
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Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Liz" |
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19 Nov 2005 08:26:05 AM |
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On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:50:10 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
in news message <BFA489B1.93420%chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Sweetie, nothing has changed much in the demographics of the 2000 and 2004
presidential election.
Its the coastal liberal elite with the big pocket-books and big whinners that
have growing contempt for this administration whereas in fly-over-country,
the red states where regular people work and live (mostly middle and lower
classes you claim to quote) - the same people who elected W are not at all
contemptuous of this administration.
They're relieved.
Liz wrote:
How do you explain the drop in approval rating of the President and his
administration from 87% to 37% ?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/14/bush.poll/
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
""Sixty percent of the 1,006 adult Americans interviewed by telephone Friday
through Sunday said they disapprove of how Bush is handling his job as
president.""
60% of 1006 individuals polled ... hum. Just how far off of the overall
election results do you think these polls can possibly get?
In a 51 / 49% election its bound to look somewhat cockeyed from just about
every angle on just about every question.
So you can't explain the drop from 87% to 37% other than to say you
think the results are biased. Georgann, you can hide your head in
the sand all you want. That doesn't change the fact that GWB has the
lowest approval ratings of his Presidency, and that he is trusted less
than former President Bill Clinton.
I would laugh, but it is only going to get worse for all of us.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Religion may in most of its forms be defined as the
belief that the gods are on the side of the government.
-- Bertrand Russell
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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20 Nov 2005 09:40:41 AM |
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In <mtcun1ds1j9vnb8q5j1e8f8gh9l1knj1mt@4ax.com>, Liz
<ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:50:10 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> in
news message <BFA489B1.93420%chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Sweetie, nothing has changed much in the demographics of the 2000 and
2004 presidential election.
Its the coastal liberal elite with the big pocket-books and big
whinners that have growing contempt for this administration whereas in
fly-over-country, the red states where regular people work and live
(mostly middle and lower classes you claim to quote) - the same people
who elected W are not at all contemptuous of this administration.
They're relieved.
Liz wrote:
How do you explain the drop in approval rating of the President and his
administration from 87% to 37% ?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/11/14/bush.poll/
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
""Sixty percent of the 1,006 adult Americans interviewed by telephone
Friday through Sunday said they disapprove of how Bush is handling his
job as president.""
60% of 1006 individuals polled ... hum. Just how far off of the overall
election results do you think these polls can possibly get?
In a 51 / 49% election its bound to look somewhat cockeyed from just
about every angle on just about every question.
So you can't explain the drop from 87% to 37% other than to say you think
the results are biased.
It's funny. They say the 37% approval is "biased" but back when it was 87%
they insisted the polls were accurate.
(Go figure)
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Mark K. Bilbo
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Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "L. Michael Roberts" |
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19 Nov 2005 08:25:56 AM |
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georgann wrote:
<snip>
Its the coastal liberal elite with the big pocket-books and big whinners
that have growing contempt for this administration whereas in
fly-over-country, the red states where regular people work and live (mostly
middle and lower classes you claim to quote) - the same people who elected W
are not at all contemptuous of this administration.
That must explain Shrub's all-time-high 36% approval rating then!
</sarcasm>
<snip>
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This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Goderich, Ont, Canada. To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail
"Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
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| User: "Kate " |
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19 Nov 2005 12:39:02 AM |
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On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 00:54:57 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
wrote:
• Ninure Saunders wrote:
Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Only a democrat couldn't know this is true.
Virgil wrote:
Given the choice between socialism, with a small 's', and the sort of
totalitarianism the shrub is pushing, a reasonable person might well prefer
the former.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
A reasonable person might know that neither a 4 nor 8 year term as president
could result in the totalitarianism you see creeping up from dark corners.
I suspect the dark corners have nothing to do with the present
administration nor its policies but your own ideas of what is to come.
A reasonable person wouldn't have expected a president to blow the
economy so bad either or to completely gut the federal response to
disasters so quickly either.
Your president is amazing with the damage he has managed in everything
he touches.
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| User: "georgann" |
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20 Nov 2005 06:01:26 AM |
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Virgil wrote:
Given the choice between socialism, with a small 's', and the sort of
totalitarianism the shrub is pushing, a reasonable person might well prefer
the former.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
A reasonable person might know that neither a 4 nor 8 year term as president
could result in the totalitarianism you see creeping up from dark corners. I
suspect the dark corners have nothing to do with the present administration
nor its policies but your own ideas of what is to come.
Kate wrote:
A reasonable person wouldn't have expected a president to blow the economy so
bad either or to completely gut the federal response to disasters so quickly
either. Your president is amazing with the damage he has managed in everything
he touches.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Interesting perspective. What planet are you living on?
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«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
Iglesia ni Cristo A CULT
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/i20.html#cult
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| User: "Kate " |
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20 Nov 2005 10:05:03 PM |
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On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 12:01:26 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
wrote:
Virgil wrote:
Given the choice between socialism, with a small 's', and the sort of
totalitarianism the shrub is pushing, a reasonable person might well prefer
the former.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
A reasonable person might know that neither a 4 nor 8 year term as president
could result in the totalitarianism you see creeping up from dark corners. I
suspect the dark corners have nothing to do with the present administration
nor its policies but your own ideas of what is to come.
Kate wrote:
A reasonable person wouldn't have expected a president to blow the economy so
bad either or to completely gut the federal response to disasters so quickly
either. Your president is amazing with the damage he has managed in everything
he touches.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Interesting perspective. What planet are you living on?
LOL - apparently not the alien one you think you are on.
Try reading a newspaper now and again.
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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19 Nov 2005 09:40:40 AM |
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Kate wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 00:54:57 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
wrote:
• Ninure Saunders wrote:
Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Only a democrat couldn't know this is true.
Virgil wrote:
Given the choice between socialism, with a small 's', and the sort of
totalitarianism the shrub is pushing, a reasonable person might well prefer
the former.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
A reasonable person might know that neither a 4 nor 8 year term as president
could result in the totalitarianism you see creeping up from dark corners.
I suspect the dark corners have nothing to do with the present
administration nor its policies but your own ideas of what is to come.
A reasonable person wouldn't have expected a president to blow the
economy so bad either or to completely gut the federal response to
disasters so quickly either.
Your president is amazing with the damage he has managed in everything
he touches.
King Midas in reverse :)
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| User: "• Ninure Saunders" |
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18 Nov 2005 07:39:58 AM |
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In article <BFA2139C.92718%chenault@mindspring.com>, georgann
<chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
-• Ninure Saunders wrote:
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-> Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.
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-georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
You must be REALLY old.
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-Only a democrat couldn't know this is true.
Really?
Then why is it not socialism when you widh to ptovide it to the Iraqis
with US taxpayers opating for it?
And tell me, how much did Jesus charge when he healed the siuck and raised
the dead?
Matthew 25:41 ³Then he will say to those on his left, ŒDepart from me,
you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his
angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was
thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you
did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was
sick and in prison and you did not look after me.¹
:44 ³They also will answer, ŒLord, when did we see you
hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison,
and did not help you?¹
:45 ³He will reply, ŒI tell you the truth, whatever you did
not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.¹
:46 ³Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the
righteous to eternal life.²
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Pax Christi,
• Ninure Saunders aka Rainbow Christian
Jesus is my Shepherd and He knows I'm Gay
http://Ninure-Saunders.tk
My Yahoo Group
http://Ninure.tk
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http://www.MCCchurch.org
The Bible Site - help provide free scripture
http://www.thebiblesite.org
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: 21 Ways to be a Good Democrat |
17 Nov 2005 02:57:01 PM |
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:01:48 GMT, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com>
wrote:
• Ninure Saunders wrote:
Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Only a democrat couldn't know this is true.
So what is it when you provide it to Iraqis?
(and deny it to your troops)
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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17 Nov 2005 11:36:08 AM |
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georgann wrote:
. Ninure Saunders wrote:
Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Only a democrat couldn't know this is true.
Caring for others is a christian saying but doing it is not.
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| User: "georgann" |
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17 Nov 2005 01:59:19 PM |
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. Ninure Saunders wrote:
Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Only a democrat couldn't know this is true.
Mike Painter wrote:
Caring for others is a christian saying but doing it is not.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
How did making taxpayers financially responsible for everyone's health care
become synonymous with "caring"?
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«´¨`·.¸¸ ¸¸.·´¨ `»
Iglesia ni Cristo A CULT
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/i20.html#cult
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| User: "Virgil" |
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17 Nov 2005 04:54:00 PM |
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In article <BFA24B46.928F0%chenault@mindspring.com>,
georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
. Ninure Saunders wrote:
Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Only a democrat couldn't know this is true.
Mike Painter wrote:
Caring for others is a christian saying but doing it is not.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
How did making taxpayers financially responsible for everyone's health care
become synonymous with "caring"?
It is certainly more caring than the Republican "to hell with the poor"
attitudes.
Isn't that "to hell with the poor and sick" a bit awkward for a
supposedly "Christian" party?
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| User: "georgann" |
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| Title: Re: 21 Ways to be a Good Democrat |
18 Nov 2005 05:34:40 AM |
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georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
Only a democrat couldn't know this is true.
Mike Painter wrote:
Caring for others is a christian saying but doing it is not.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
How did making taxpayers financially responsible for everyone's health care
become synonymous with "caring"?
Virgil wrote:
It is certainly more caring than the Republican "to hell with the poor"
attitudes. Isn't that "to hell with the poor and sick" a bit awkward for a
supposedly "Christian" party?
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
There is no "to hell with the poor and sick" attitude among Christians.
In case you are unaware Christians give massive amounts of money, stuff and
time through their congregations as well as individual churches to alleviate
hunger, suffering and illness among the poorest over the entire world.
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| User: "655321" |
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| Title: Re: 21 Ways to be a Good Democrat |
18 Nov 2005 08:57:15 PM |
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On 2005-11-18 03:34:40 -0800, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> said:
In case you are unaware Christians give massive amounts of money, stuff and
time through their congregations as well as individual churches to alleviate
hunger, suffering and illness among the poorest over the entire world.
So *that's* how to solve systemic problems the size of oceans... toss
tablespoons full of charity at the suffering.
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GlennGlenn (655321) -- aa#825 --
"Genocide is used sparingly by God in only extreme circumstances." -Jim Spaza
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| User: "georgann" |
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| Title: Re: 21 Ways to be a Good Democrat |
19 Nov 2005 06:00:44 AM |
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In case you are unaware Christians give massive amounts of money, stuff and
time through their congregations as well as individual churches to alleviate
hunger, suffering and illness among the poorest over the entire world.
655321 wrote:
So *that's* how to solve systemic problems the size of oceans... toss
tablespoons full of charity at the suffering.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
You give the impression that you think nationalized (i.e. taxpayer) charity
plans would suit you better - even though that takes away the individual's
ability to choose what to give to.
This is getting more socialistic by the post.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: 21 Ways to be a Good Democrat |
20 Nov 2005 09:47:43 AM |
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In <BFA47E1B.932E0%chenault@mindspring.com>, georgann
<chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
In case you are unaware Christians give massive amounts of money, stuff
and time through their congregations as well as individual churches to
alleviate hunger, suffering and illness among the poorest over the
entire world.
655321 wrote:
So *that's* how to solve systemic problems the size of oceans... toss
tablespoons full of charity at the suffering.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
You give the impression that you think nationalized (i.e. taxpayer)
charity plans would suit you better - even though that takes away the
individual's ability to choose what to give to.
This is getting more socialistic by the post.
And yet your religion has failed to deal with the problem.
I see no reason society can't take over where you people have flopped.
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| User: "• Ninure Saunders" |
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| Title: Re: 21 Ways to be a Good Democrat |
19 Nov 2005 08:28:57 AM |
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In article <2005111818570950073%DipthotDipthot@YahooYahooComCom>, 655321
<DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
-On 2005-11-18 03:34:40 -0800, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> said:
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-> In case you are unaware Christians give massive amounts of money, stuff and
-> time through their congregations as well as individual churches to alleviate
-> hunger, suffering and illness among the poorest over the entire world.
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-So *that's* how to solve systemic problems the size of oceans... toss
-tablespoons full of charity at the suffering.
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And the sad fact is that if you look at the actual budgets of the kinds
od churches this poster probably fgies tim kess rgab 10% (if even that
much) goes to "the poor and the suffering". Most of the money such those
churches takes in foes to pay the Pastor(s) and other staff, building
maintaince, other operating costs, equipment, and the like,
The churches where the "poor and suffering" attend seem to give more to
others who are may even be in worse conditions the congregants are.
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Jesus is my Shepherd and He knows I'm Gay
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| User: "• Ninure Saunders" |
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| Title: Re: 21 Ways to be a Good Democrat |
18 Nov 2005 07:41:51 AM |
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In article <BFA24B46.928F0%chenault@mindspring.com>, georgann
<chenault@mindspring.com> wrote:
->> . Ninure Saunders wrote:
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->>> Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.
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->> georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
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->> Only a democrat couldn't know this is true.
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-Mike Painter wrote:
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-> Caring for others is a christian saying but doing it is not.
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-georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
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-How did making taxpayers financially responsible for everyone's health care
-become synonymous with "caring"?
Well since you CLAIM to be a Christian..and you CLAIM to be a Christian,
what did Jesus do and say?
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Pax Christi,
• Ninure Saunders aka Rainbow Christian
Jesus is my Shepherd and He knows I'm Gay
http://Ninure-Saunders.tk
My Yahoo Group
http://Ninure.tk
Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches
http://www.MCCchurch.org
The Bible Site - help provide free scripture
http://www.thebiblesite.org
To send e-mail, remove nohate from address
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| User: "655321" |
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| Title: Re: 21 Ways to be a Good Democrat |
18 Nov 2005 08:52:41 PM |
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On 2005-11-17 11:59:19 -0800, georgann <chenault@mindspring.com> said:
How did making taxpayers financially responsible for everyone's health care
Actually, that's what ends up happening anyway.
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GlennGlenn (655321) -- aa#825 --
"Genocide is used sparingly by God in only extreme circumstances." -Jim Spaza
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| User: "georgann" |
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| Title: Re: 21 Ways to be a Good Democrat |
19 Nov 2005 05:52:43 AM |
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How did making taxpayers financially responsible for everyone's health care
655321 wrote:
Actually, that's what ends up happening anyway.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
True. But we don't have to turn it into an opportunity for bureaucrats and
politicians to downgrade the quality of medicine that is delivered to
virtually everyone but the super-rich. That's what socialized medicine
does.
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