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"J Young" |
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12 Mar 2006 01:21:15 PM |
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24 homosexual-rights activists arrested at Falwell university |
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were arrested.
The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is imposed. How dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is founded on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49225
51-day Equality Ride targeting Christian colleges, military schools over
no-'gay' admission policies
On the first stop of a 51-day "gay-rights" bus tour aimed at bringing media
attention to the non-admission policies for gays at 20 Christian colleges
and military schools, 24 members of the Soulforce Equality Ride found
themselves sitting in the Lynchburg, Virginia, jail, arrested for
trespassing at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University and facing possible $2,500
fines and a year in jail.
The group of 35 gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered, and straight 18- to
28-year-olds had been warned ahead of their arrival they would not be
welcome on campus.
"It is now our firm belief that Soulforce is not acting in good faith and is
simply trying to use such encounters on Christian college campuses as a
media attraction and for their ultimate purpose of fundraising," Chancellor
Falwell said in a written statement.
Liberty had been targeted by an earlier version of the Equality Ride last
year and has a long history of dealings with Soulforce, the homosexual group
started by Mel White, a writer who once worked for Falwell.
Soulforce members told the Advocate, a homosexual newspaper, they had not
intended to be arrested and had simply hoped to talk to Liberty students.
With 19 schools yet to go, Equality Ride may find the cost of putting up
bail and paying fines a strain on the project's budget. Equality Ride's
founder, Reitan expressed pride over those who confronted Liberty University
and were arrested, but says he's hoping for "productive dialogue" at the
remaining stops.
"I hope that schools down the road won't make the same choice that Liberty
made," Reitan said.
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" The truth shall set you free "
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13 Mar 2006 03:43:15 AM |
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A Church Service was held at Saint Andrews, Sydney on 13 March 2006 to
celebrate the British Commonwealth comprising some 72 nations. Included
within this service was an affirmation of 6 clauses that were undertaken by
representatives of various communities of faith.
I do not presently have a copy of such affirmation, but one would like to
draw attention to its obvious comparison to Article 16 proscribing an
eclessiastical oath -- Concordat Between the Holy See & the German Reich
July 20, 1933.
If one considers that according to the German Philosopher Kant, that the
notion of 'heterosexual' within the 4 Nuremberg Laws is a CATEGORICAL
IMPERATIVE {ie. The Nazi party denounced homosexuality as detrimental to
natural population growth, and harmful to the nation's strength and family
life. [Ref: © 1997, The Simon Wiesenthal Center]: "Before God and on the
Holy Gospels I swear and promise as becomes a bishop, loyalty to the German
Reich and to the State of . . . I swear and promise to honor the legally
constituted Government and to cause the clergy of my diocese to honor it. In
the performance of my spiritual office and in my solicitude for the welfare
and the interests of the German Reich, I will endeavor to avoid all
detrimental acts which might endanger it." [Article 16 proscribing an
eclessiastical oath -- Concordat Between the Holy See & the German Reich
July 20, 1933]
Following such Concordat, there was in 30 June 1934, a Party Purge as the
'Nacht der Langen Messer (Night of the Long Knives)'
THUS WE MAY SEE THAT ROMAN CATHOLIC ATTITUDES TOWARDS HOMOSEXUALITY AS
'DETRIMENTAL TO FAMILY LIFE' IS IDENTICAL TO THE CLAIM TO PIETY AS
PROSCRIBED IN THE CONCORDANT BETWEEN THE PAPACY AND THE GERMAN REICH.
} expressing an unnecessary repetition of an idea, especially in the other
words 'marry/intercourse' are included within the immediate context, which
fails to impart any additional force or clearness. In that, as a categorical
imperative, it already conveys a notion of self preservation, integrity,
civility and decency as a logical proposition, and can therefore be shown
that the conceptualisation of State or Commonwealth, already includes such a
possibility.
Adolf Hitler's 4 Nuremberg Laws were 'the first draft of the death warrant
that led to the demise of one-third of world Jewry, these laws determined
who would live and who would die.'
- ENDED THE RIGHT OF JEWS TO MARRY FREELY
(YANG/FATHER - Formula of Universal Law as Sovereignty: #1 - Nature contains
Nature {#4 - Nature amended in its Nature}) says: "Act as if the maxim of
thy action were to become by thy will a universal law of nature."
- ENDED THE RIGHT OF JEWS TO HAVE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE FREELY
(YIN/MOTHER - Formula of Humanity as Head of State: #2 - Nature rejoices in
its Nature {#5 - Act of Nature}) says: "Act that you use humanity, whether
in your own person or in the person of any other, always at the same time as
an end, never merely as a means."
- ENDED THE RIGHT OF JEWS TO EMPLOY OR BE EMPLOYED FREELY
(ZHUN/SON - Formula of Autonomy as Individual: #3 - Nature surmounts Nature
{#6 - Form of Nature}) is a synthesis of the first two. It says that we
should so act that we may think of ourselves as legislating universal laws
through our maxims, in a possible Kingdom of Ends. We may think of ourselves
as such autonomous legislators only insofar as we follow our own laws.
- ENDED THE RIGHT OF JEWS TO DISPLAY/SERVE THE NATION'S FLAG FREELY
(ONE - Formula of Progression: #4 - Nature amended in its Nature {#7 -
Engendering Nature}) as a progressive adaptation within its sphere of
operation.
So you've now come to realise that "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> and
many of their Roman Catholic community of faith can't count sticks, and that
such a notion
doesn't produce ethical behaviour.--That such individual is typically
engaging in inpunity of the autonomous, sovereign, common law and
constitutional rights of others.
It is a deceptive, fallacious, religious and political mantra: "Family
First" which is advanced as a claim to piety, in that it is an autonomous
right which is affirmed by the three propositions in Kant's practical
syllogism as an autonomous, sovereign, common law and constitutional right
and not the bestowal of piety to the act of begetting {Heb. Yalad: Yod (#10)
Lamed (#30) Daleth (#4) = #44 - Moderate Values/ Setting Up Precepts}:
"A state (civitus) is a union of a multitude of human beings under laws of
right. Insofar as these are a priori necessary as laws, that is, insofar as
they follow themselves from concepts of external right as such (are not
statutory), its form is the form of the state as such, that is, of the state
in idea, as it ought to be in accordance with pure principles of right. This
idea serves as a norm (norma) for every actual union into a commonwealth
(hence serves as a norm for its internal constitution).
Every state contains three authorities within it, that is, the general
united will consists of three persons (trias politica):
1. the sovereign authority (sovereignty) in the person of the legislator;
2. the executive authority (eg: Head of State) in the person of the ruler
(in conformity to the law); and
3. the judicial authority (to award to each what is his in accordance with
the law) in the person of the judge (potestas legislatoria, rectoria et
inudiciaria).
These are like the three propositions in a practical syllogism: the major
premise YANG/FATHER - Formula of Universal Law}, which contains the law of
that will; the minor premise {YIN/MOTHER - Formula of Humanity}, which
contains the command to behave in accordance with the law, that is, the
principle of subsumption under the law; and the conclusion {ZHUN/SON -
Formula of Autonomy}, which contains the verdict (sentence), what is laid
down as right in the case at hand." ([Copyright © 1996 Cambridge Texts in
the History of Philosophy, Kant 1724-1804, The Doctrine of Right, The
Metaphysics of Morals, para 45])
A categorical imperative such as self preservation, integrity, civility and
decency are therefore all instances of unconditional obligations; that may
also be considered the theological equivalent notion to angels or daemons.
In that it has the force of an obligation regardless of our will, desires or
whims and which is contrasted to an hypothetical imperative. Kant's
categorical imperative was formulated in three ways, which he believed to be
roughly equivalent (although many commentators do not) to the three
propositions in his practical syllogism:
a) The first formulation (YANG/FATHER - Formula of Universal Law as
Sovereignty: #1 - Nature contains Nature {#4 - Nature amended in its
Nature}) says: "Act as if the maxim of thy action were to become by thy will
a universal law of nature."
b) The second formulation (YIN/MOTHER - Formula of Humanity as Head of
State: #2 - Nature rejoices in its Nature {#5 - Act of Nature}) says: "Act
that you use humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of any
other, always at the same time as an end, never merely as a means."
c) The third formulation (ZHUN/SON - Formula of Autonomy as Individual:
#3 - Nature surmounts Nature {#6 - Form of Nature}) is a synthesis of the
first two. It says that we should so act that we may think of ourselves as
legislating universal laws through our maxims, in a possible Kingdom of
Ends. We may think of ourselves as such autonomous legislators only insofar
as we follow our own laws. ([Wikipedia, free encyclopedia discussion of
German philosopher Immanuel Kant (April 22, 1724 - February 12, 1804)])
This may be augmented by a fourth formulation (ONE as Formula of
Progression: #4 - Nature amended in its Nature {#7 - Engendering Nature}) as
a progressive adaptation within its sphere of operation.
A comment needs to be made, as to the purpose, function and differences
between the traditional DAOIST/TORAH (Pythagorean) A-U-M worldview of the
religious/political Mysteries associated to both the Tetragrammation of
Number (Sephirot) obtained from yarrow sticks/stones {ie. According to Yang
Hsiung's (53 BCE to 18 CE) tetragram system, each four-line glyph has 3
possibilities {ie. 3 x 3 x 3 x 3 = #81} whose component parts are read from
top to bottom, comprising either:
(3) an unbroken line correlated to YANG/FATHER {+ 0, 27, 54};
(9) a line broken once representing YIN/MOTHER {+ 0, 9, 18}; and
(27) a line broken twice symbolising ZHUN/SON {+ 0, 3, 6}
(81) as its culturing as that which organises {ie. within its sphere/ONE
within FAMILY: + 0, 81, 9(9²+1)/2 = #369} the myriad of individual phenomena
(WAN WU): + 1, 2, 3} = Tetragrammation hierarchy value.
"The Mystery gives birth to two divine images. The two divine images give
birth to the spherical [universe]. The cosmic sphere gives birth to Three
Models [of Heaven-Earth-Man]. The Three Models give birth to the Nine
Positions. The Mystery in having the model 'One' {ie. YANG/FATHER {+ 0, 27 -
Paradoxes of the Greatest Skill/ Function of Skill, 54 - Culturing
Perspectives/ Cultivation of Intuition}} attains to Heaven. Therefore, we
say of it that it 'has Heaven [in it].' The Mystery in having the model
'Two' {ie. YIN/MOTHER {+ 0, 9 - Inconstancy of Achievement/ Practising
Placidity, 18 - Origin of Ethical Concepts/ Palliation of Vulgarity}}
attains to Earth. Therefore, we say of it that it 'has Earth [in it]'. The
Mystery in having the model 'Three' {ie. ZHUN/SON {+ 0, 3 - Prescriptions
for Politics/ Keeping the People Quiet, 6 - Superiority of the Female/
Completion of Form}} attains to Man. Therefore, we say of it that it 'has
Man [in it]'.
The sage investigates changes in the moon's appearance and location, as well
as departures from its orbit {ie. The term TS'E NI means 'to lose the
regular course' where for every 19 years there must be 7 intercalary months
(Heaven's Compensation) and presumably may include irregularities such as
eclipses:
"Heaven and Earth face each other. Sun and moon are in conjunction. Mountain
and valley flow into one another. Light and heavy float on one another. Yin
and Yang succeed one another. High and low rank do not defile one another."
}. He only finds a norm in the constant sequence of sun and moon, and in the
order of male and female. He makes them the canonical model for all
eternity. Therefore, the Mystery in grand fashion comprises Heaven's
Origins, binding and securing it to what is to come.
The Mystery works with multiples of six and nine. The divining stalks use
three times six (ie. 18). The Priniciples of Heaven and Earth uses two times
nine (also = 18). The Mystery certainly does use eighteen as a base then!
The Grand Accumulation Sum begins with 18 - 'Origin of Ethical Concepts/
Palliation of Vulgarity' divining stalks and ends with 54 - 'Culturing
Perspectives/ Cultivation of Intuition'. If we add the numbers that
correspond to the beginning and end of the stalks, 18 + 54 = #72 -
'Self-Love/ Holding Oneself Dear', we halve it to make the Grand Centre {=
36 - Natural Reversals/ 'Secret' Explanation; Tallying the vertical axis
produces:
#1 - To Guide with Names/ Reason's Realisation,
Categorical Imperative: (#27 - Paradoxes of the Greatest Skill/ Function of
Skill + #9 - Inconstancy of Achievement/ Practising Placidity + #3 -
Prescriptions for Politics/ Keeping the People Quiet + #2 - Contrast of
Terms/ Self-Culture) = #41 - Playing with Reversal/ Sameness in Difference
(Septet form 9(9²+1)/2 = #369 as Centre = 13 to 17 September; with New Moon
18 September 2001 = 1 Tishri 5762 as 122J3W2D) ,
Categorical Imperative: (#54 - Culturing Perspectives/ Cultivation of
Intuition + #18 - Origin of Ethical Concepts/ Palliation of Vulgarity + #6 -
Superiority of the Female/ Completion of Form + #3 - Prescriptions for
Politics/ Keeping the People Quiet) = #81 - Making the Essence Clear/
Propounding the Essential
It is these two imperatives, which both the Torah [Deuteronomy 6:5;
Leviticus 19:18] and Jesus of Nazareth affirm are the essential substance of
the Law and the Prophets: "Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a
question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment
in the law? Jesus {He is saved; a deliverer; a saviour} said unto him, Thou
shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and
with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second
is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two
commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
While the Pharisees {ie. within the contemporaneous Dead Sea Scrolls as
Flattery Seekers} were gathered together, Jesus asked them, Saying, What
think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David
{well beloved; dear}. He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call
him Lord, saying, The LORD-YHWH said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right
hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? If David then call him Lord,
how is he his son? And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst
any man from that day forth ask him any more questions." [Matthew 22:35-46]
(KJV circa 1611 CE)
Therefore, the following comment by Ivars Peterson of Science News fails to
give adequate historical and theological references as to the sacred element
within Howard Garns' present day popular "Sudoku Math Puzzle" and might in
reality be understood as an attempt to provide a revisionistic view of
history and ethical accountability. He suggests, that the "sudoku grid is a
special case of a mathematical object called a Latin [or magic] square [x =
n(n²+1)/2]. A Latin square consists of n sets of numbers from 1 to n
arranged in a square pattern so that no row or column contains the same
number twice. Latin squares go back to at least medieval times. Leonhard
Euler (1707-1783 CE) a deeply religious Calvinist throughout his life, was
the first exceptional mathematician to study magic squares systematically.
He introduced a particular type of Latin square (a Graeco-Roman square) as a
new kind of 'magic square.'" [Math Trek, Science News Online, 18 June 2005]
There is an interesting anecdote about Euler concerning the court of
Catherine the Great and the visitation by the French philosopher Denis
Diderot (1713-1784 CE). Who having little to no mathematical knowledge (like
myself), was informed that someone had a mathematical proof of the existence
of God. He asked to hear it. Euler then stepped forward and stated his
popular identity formula: "Sir, e^iPI + 1 = 0, hence God exists!" [ref:
Wikipedia - where i is the imaginary unit and x a real number. Since cos PI
= -1 and sin PI = 0 hence the equation] Diderot it is reported by some
accounts, had no idea what Euler was talking about and returned to France
following realising its intent as a cutting, dismissive jibe {ie. to shift
from one side to the other when running before the wind, as a fore-and-aft
sail or its boom; to utter mocking words, scoff, jeer, to taunt, deride,
flout, a sarcastic remark}. Similarly Jesus of Nazareth tells a woman within
the temple confines, who is allegedly caught in the very act of adultery, to
'Go-poreuomai and sin-hamartano henceforth-meketi the more-epischuo'--That
is: 'by your good works, you shall not return (to sin again).''' [John
8:11]}
The 36 divining stalks of the Grand Centre are used to regulate the 729
Appraisals. Altogether [36 x 729 = 364 x 72 + 36 = ] 26,244 stalks make up
the Grand Accumulation, with 72 stalks per day for the 364 1/2 days of the
year. The Deficit Appraisal fills it out, so as to bring it into accord with
the days of the year and the pitches and calendar in their course."
([Copyright 1993 Michael Nylan Yang Hsiung's (53 BCE-18 CE) 4 BCE (T'AI
HSUAN CHING) 'Canon of Supreme Mystery on Causality -- Natural Divination'
(HSUAN KAO) 'Revelation of the Mystery', p 461, 463])
Any disparity between commentators over whether Yin(g) = female as passive
principle (EARTH) and Yang = male as active principle (HEAVEN) as conveyed
by the Book of Changes (I-Ching) of 2800 BCE or Lao Tzu's (6th century BCE)
Tao (the way) Te (of virtue) Ching (and causality), is perhaps due to the
ambiguity as to whether the elements #1 and #2 follow the Pythagorean Number
Symbolism, in that they are distinct from the meaning of number which
assigned to odd number a male attribute (eg: the monad as Zeus) and even
number a female attribute (eg: the duad as Hera) and gave them co-jointly a
spermatic quality in the emulation of nature-PHUSIS {germination or
expansion, natural reproduction}: "Men, why are you doing these things? {ie.
In that they called Barnabas (the son of a prophet) Zeus/Jupiter and Paul
(small; little) Mercury/Hermes and had sought to sacrifice to them} We also
are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn
from these vanities unto the living-ZAO God-THEOS, who made the
heaven-OURANOS {
(YANG/FATHER - Formula of Universal Law as Sovereignty: #1 - Nature contains
Nature {#4 - Nature amended in its Nature}) says: "Act as if the maxim of
thy action were to become by thy will a universal law of nature."
}, and the earth-GE {
(YIN/MOTHER - Formula of Humanity as Head of State: #2 - Nature rejoices in
its Nature {#5 - Act of Nature}) says: "Act that you use humanity, whether
in your own person or in the person of any other, always at the same time as
an end, never merely as a means."
}, and the sea {
(ZHUN/SON - Formula of Autonomy as Individual: #3 - Nature surmounts Nature
{#6 - Form of Nature}) is a synthesis of the first two. It says that we
should so act that we may think of ourselves as legislating universal laws
through our maxims, in a possible Kingdom of Ends. We may think of ourselves
as such autonomous legislators only insofar as we follow our own laws.
}, [and the fountains of waters {
(ONE - Formula of Progression: #4 - Nature amended in its Nature {#7 -
Engendering Nature}) as a progressive adaptation within its sphere of
operation.
} [Revelation 14:7]] and all things that are therein: Who in times past
suffered all nations to walk in their own ways." [Acts 14:15-16]
} and the Tetragrammation formulation of the name YHWH {ie. 72J = 12 x 294 x
364 = 12 x 293 x 365.2425 = Tetragrammation on YHWH as 72} associated to the
natural cycle of the four seasons as regime of governance. And how this
relates to the alternate '#57 - Laissez Faire Politics/ Simplicity In
Habits' perspective of the 'topical year' commencing New Years
Day/Resolution 1 January as proposed by the Gregorian calendar reforms of
1582 CE and adopted throughout the British Empire in 1752 CE.
Rabbi Yaakov Feldman of Project Genesis suggests of Ramchal's (Rabbi Moshe
Chaim Luzzatto 1707-1746 CE) explanation, that it concerns a Categorical
Imperative associated to the very start of creation. His explanation of the
Kabbalistic terminology brings it all down to earth: "'All the
sephira-levels that G-d created' that is, all the non-material building
blocks that went into the creation of the world known as the sephirot
(plural of sephira), 'were (originally) arranged in order, with one under
the other'. In fact we learn that, 'everything's in place (ideally) when the
more extraneous sephira-levels are below the more exalted ones and are
subservient to them, which is how things will be in The World to Come.'
His point is that order and proper hierarchy are the ideal. It had been in
place at the beginning and will be in place again in the end. 'But
everything was damaged'-- everything suddenly changed for the worse -- 'when
the 'husk' rebelled against its Master.'
The 'husk' is another name for the yetzer harah (which on both a personal
level and a cosmic one is the resistance to G-dliness). It's referred to as
a 'husk' or 'shell' because it comes about before the 'fruit' of G-dliness
does [1 Corinthians 12:3-31], because it preserves the fruit (just as the
yetzer harah preserves society, for without it there'd be no childbirth,
civilization, etc.), and because like all husks and shells the yetzer harah
is destined to be cast aside when it no longer serves its purpose (as we'll
see).
For when the husk rebelled against G-d and thus removed itself from the
natural order of things, it separated the Jewish Nation (represented by the
last of the sephira-levels, which is nourished by the largesse of the lot of
them) from G-d by virtue of the fact that things were no longer 'in place',
as order and hierarchy are the ideal as we said, and 'the more extraneous
levels' were no longer 'below the more exalted ones and ... subservient to
them'.
Not only that but 'as soon as the husk took control of the sephira-levels
the supernal light reversed itself', which is to say that G-d's presence hid
itself, 'the sephirot were no longer joined together, the Divine Flow
diminished, and the Jewish Nation's abilities weakened and lessened.'
And in fact that spiritual chaos and malnourishment is our situation in
exile on an ethereal level." ([Copyright © 2006 Rabbi Yaakov Feldman,
Ramchal, 'The Great Redemption', 'Exile', Chapter 7, Project Genesis])
Thus in this example, the husk or the outer shell {Nature amended in its
Nature {Engendering Nature}} as the New Year's formulation adopted as part
of the Gregorian calendar reforms of 1582 CE might be considered at the
personal level, the equivalent to our New Year's Resolution custom, whereby
one might purge themselves of undesireable compulsions in much the same way
as the 'yetzer harah that is destined to be cast aside when it no longer
serves its purpose'. Or undertake some corrective and restorative action.
But there is also a cosmic kernel correspondence which proffers a resistance
to Godliness and in point of fact rebels against God as MALAKOS [Luke
7:24-28; Matthew 11:23-30; Damascus Document 8:3-12]: "While we pursue those
government ministers asleep at the wheel of the ship of state, let's also
castigate ourselves and remind ourselves that it is only a materialistic,
utilitarian people which is collectively able to work the public conscience
into such a state of submission so that the nation is able to trade
successfully with a corrupt despot while convincing itself that necessary
and justified sanctions are honoured and all is in readiness for war."
([Jesuit priest, lawyer and academic Frank Brennan, annual Manning Clark
lecture, 2 March 2006; source: The Australian 3 March 2006, Jill Rowbotham,
'Priest laments society's "moral lethargy"])
It is this knowledge duality {eg: "Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem
{House of Bread} of Judaea in the days of Herod {son of a hero} the king,
behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem {VISION OF PEACE: The
Autonomous Nature as Forma Corporis is the equivalent to the demiurge as
supernatural animating agent within the universe [Exodus 23:20-24; Acts
12:20-24] as the Shekinah [#11, #2, #37, #47 * Ignorant Guides/ Viewing the
Distant, #75 - The Destructiveness of Envy/ Harmed Through Greed, #28, #32,
#81, #30]. And who was especially important as having an associated
equivalence to the Almighty [Genesis 17:1] as Shaddai {Heb. Shin (#300)
Daleth (#4) Yod (#10) = #314 % 81 = #71 as [#5, #21, #11, #71 * Know-How as
a Disease/ The Disease of Knowledge, #58 - Political Reversal/ Adaptation to
Change, #24, #65, #34, #6]} being proposed by Yang Hsiung's (53 [4] BCE - 18
CE) T'ai Hsuan Ching (Canon of Supreme Mystery on Causality -- Natural
Divination) is as follows:
a) Yang - #44 - Moderate Values/ Setting Up Precepts (May 26-31)
b) Yin - #50 - Fantasies of Avoiding Death/ Estimation of Life (Nov 28-Dec
2)
c) Zhun - #73 - Employing Deeming/ Daring to Act (Jan 16-20)
d) One - #15 - Mastering Guiding Discourse/ Revealers of Virtue (Dec 22-26)
}, saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his
star in the east, and are come to worship him. When Herod the king had heard
these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. ... [W]hen Herod
saw that he was deceived by the wise men, [being] exceedingly angry; he sent
forth and put to death all the male children who were in Bethlehem and in
all the districts, from two years old and under, according to the time which
he had determined from the wise men. Then was fulfilled what was spoken by
Jeremiah {exaltation of the Lord} the prophet, saying, 'A voice was heard in
Ramah/Ram {elevated; sublime}, lamentation, weeping, and great mourning,
Rachel {sheep} weeping for her children, refusing to be comforted, because
they were no more.'" [Matthew 2:1-3]
} of what is both an ontological and cosmic realm which John Polkinghorne
suggests within his Terry lectures, celebrating 300 years of the Society for
Promoting Christian Knowledge, is the basis of the definition of religious
belief issued by the Council of Chalcedon in 451 CE, bringing into play the
full resources of Greek philosophy in an effort to articulate orthodox
understanding of the Status of Christ: "One and the same Son, our Lord Jesus
Christ, at once complete in Godhead and complete in manhood, truly God and
truly man, ... One and the same Christ, Son, Lord, Only-begotten, recognised
in two natures, without confusion, without change, without division, without
separation." ([Copyright © 1998, John Polkinghorn, 'Does God Act in the
Physical World', 'Belief in God in an Age of Science', p 67])
As suggested within my 24 June - 20 July chapter titled, 'Course-TROCHOS of
nature-GENESIS or world-KOSMOS of iniquity-ADIKIA?', the essence of orthodox
asceticism is a convoluted process of detachment from reality, involving a
paradoxical subordination of self to an inner perception or apparition of
mind; {Gk. horama}, as self-grandising hallucinatory autosuggestion and
deification in claimed unity with one's inner daemon. [#6, #69, #20, #70 *
Difficulty in Knowing How/ Difficult to Understand, #70, #3, #69, #60, #14 -
Kether (Crown)] Whereby the "heart has been purified of all thoughts; that
his nous has been liberated from fantasy, logic and the passions and has
returned to the heart and been united with it in the Holy Spirit".
Its monasticism proscribes, that the knowing of truth is attained by one
whose nous is unified in his heart. In order to bring this about, the
ascetic decides to live a reclusive and mystical life and feels a distaste
for everything which disunites his nous. [#1, #5, #61, #81 * Making the
Essence Clear/ Propounding the Essential, #5 - Natural Guidance/ The
Function of Emptiness, #16, #31, #61, #15] - Chokmah (Wisdom)]
Man's soul is thought by the ascetic, to being tripartite. In other words it
has three powers, the intelligent, the incensive and the appetitive. When
the soul is ill, its three powers are also ill. Christ began his cure of the
soul with the appetitive power. For desire unsatisfied fuels the incensive
power, and then the intelligence too is ill. Therefore the incensive power
of the soul cannot be cured before the appetitive power is cured, nor can
the intelligence be cured until the other two powers have been cured. [#15,
#7, #47, #67 * Three Treasures {kindness, frugality and no presumption that
one is first among all under Heaven}, #71 - Know-How as a Disease/ The
Disease of Knowledge, #11, #48, #51, #48 - Thrones (Saturn)] ([St. Maximos
the Confessor (580-662 CE), Vladimir's Seminary Press, On the Cosmic Mystery
of Jesus Christ, Ambiguum 7 Section I, p 53-54])
- dolf
- <http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/rottenburg.html>
- <http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/sally.html>
- <http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/kant.html>
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were arrested.
The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is imposed. How dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is founded on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49225
51-day Equality Ride targeting Christian colleges, military schools over
no-'gay' admission policies
On the first stop of a 51-day "gay-rights" bus tour aimed at bringing media
attention to the non-admission policies for gays at 20 Christian colleges
and military schools, 24 members of the Soulforce Equality Ride found
themselves sitting in the Lynchburg, Virginia, jail, arrested for
trespassing at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University and facing possible $2,500
fines and a year in jail.
The group of 35 gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered, and straight 18- to
28-year-olds had been warned ahead of their arrival they would not be
welcome on campus.
"It is now our firm belief that Soulforce is not acting in good faith and is
simply trying to use such encounters on Christian college campuses as a
media attraction and for their ultimate purpose of fundraising," Chancellor
Falwell said in a written statement.
Liberty had been targeted by an earlier version of the Equality Ride last
year and has a long history of dealings with Soulforce, the homosexual group
started by Mel White, a writer who once worked for Falwell.
Soulforce members told the Advocate, a homosexual newspaper, they had not
intended to be arrested and had simply hoped to talk to Liberty students.
With 19 schools yet to go, Equality Ride may find the cost of putting up
bail and paying fines a strain on the project's budget. Equality Ride's
founder, Reitan expressed pride over those who confronted Liberty University
and were arrested, but says he's hoping for "productive dialogue" at the
remaining stops.
"I hope that schools down the road won't make the same choice that Liberty
made," Reitan said.
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15 Mar 2006 12:10:33 AM |
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In article <4qednaAoM4ko6YnZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
youngopinions@aol.com says...
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were arrested.
The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is imposed. How dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is founded on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
Huh? I thought they were at Liberty University.....no higher learning
going on there...
No morals or decency, either.
BDK
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49225
51-day Equality Ride targeting Christian colleges, military schools over
no-'gay' admission policies
On the first stop of a 51-day "gay-rights" bus tour aimed at bringing media
attention to the non-admission policies for gays at 20 Christian colleges
and military schools, 24 members of the Soulforce Equality Ride found
themselves sitting in the Lynchburg, Virginia, jail, arrested for
trespassing at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University and facing possible $2,500
fines and a year in jail.
The group of 35 gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered, and straight 18- to
28-year-olds had been warned ahead of their arrival they would not be
welcome on campus.
"It is now our firm belief that Soulforce is not acting in good faith and is
simply trying to use such encounters on Christian college campuses as a
media attraction and for their ultimate purpose of fundraising," Chancellor
Falwell said in a written statement.
Liberty had been targeted by an earlier version of the Equality Ride last
year and has a long history of dealings with Soulforce, the homosexual group
started by Mel White, a writer who once worked for Falwell.
Soulforce members told the Advocate, a homosexual newspaper, they had not
intended to be arrested and had simply hoped to talk to Liberty students.
With 19 schools yet to go, Equality Ride may find the cost of putting up
bail and paying fines a strain on the project's budget. Equality Ride's
founder, Reitan expressed pride over those who confronted Liberty University
and were arrested, but says he's hoping for "productive dialogue" at the
remaining stops.
"I hope that schools down the road won't make the same choice that Liberty
made," Reitan said.
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13 Mar 2006 01:22:13 AM |
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J Young wrote:
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were arrested.
Speaking of sniveling little cowards... And just how
many sniveling little coward blacks had to get arrested
before they got their freedom? To win the fight for freedom
one must often sacrifice. Freedom fighters are used to that.
Segregation is segregation no mater whether it is based
on the color of your skin, or the sexual organ in your pants.
The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is imposed. How dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is founded on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49225
51-day Equality Ride targeting Christian colleges, military schools over
no-'gay' admission policies
On the first stop of a 51-day "gay-rights" bus tour aimed at bringing media
attention to the non-admission policies for gays at 20 Christian colleges
and military schools, 24 members of the Soulforce Equality Ride found
themselves sitting in the Lynchburg, Virginia, jail, arrested for
trespassing at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University and facing possible $2,500
fines and a year in jail.
The group of 35 gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered, and straight 18- to
28-year-olds had been warned ahead of their arrival they would not be
welcome on campus.
"It is now our firm belief that Soulforce is not acting in good faith and is
simply trying to use such encounters on Christian college campuses as a
media attraction and for their ultimate purpose of fundraising," Chancellor
Falwell said in a written statement.
Liberty had been targeted by an earlier version of the Equality Ride last
year and has a long history of dealings with Soulforce, the homosexual group
started by Mel White, a writer who once worked for Falwell.
Soulforce members told the Advocate, a homosexual newspaper, they had not
intended to be arrested and had simply hoped to talk to Liberty students.
With 19 schools yet to go, Equality Ride may find the cost of putting up
bail and paying fines a strain on the project's budget. Equality Ride's
founder, Reitan expressed pride over those who confronted Liberty University
and were arrested, but says he's hoping for "productive dialogue" at the
remaining stops.
"I hope that schools down the road won't make the same choice that Liberty
made," Reitan said.
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" The truth shall set you free "
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12 Mar 2006 08:29:02 PM |
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J Young wrote:
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were arrested.
The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is imposed. How dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is founded on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
*Morals*
*Decency*
*Higher learning*
*Jerry Falwell*
Nope
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12 Mar 2006 01:25:07 PM |
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J Young wrote:
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were arrested.
The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is imposed. How dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is founded on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
they should do hard time, but you know if you put those queers behind
bars they would be a threat to the peace and stability of the prison
system. They shoud be killed instead.
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12 Mar 2006 01:51:43 PM |
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"Pastor Bluskie" <wildbluskies@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142191507.872433.95930@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were
arrested.
The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is imposed. How
dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is
founded on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
they should do hard time, but you know if you put those queers behind
bars they would be a threat to the peace and stability of the prison
system. They shoud be killed instead.
Blood lust rants from a member of "Christians Against the Teachings of
Christ".
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12 Mar 2006 02:00:44 PM |
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"owl" <owl_1971.spamersTonguesAreForToiletPaper@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:csydnQSKGYib5onZRVn-vA@comcast.com...
"Pastor Bluskie" <wildbluskies@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142191507.872433.95930@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were
arrested.
The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is imposed. How
dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is
founded on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
they should do hard time, but you know if you put those queers behind
bars they would be a threat to the peace and stability of the prison
system. They shoud be killed instead.
Blood lust rants from a member of "Christians Against the Teachings of
Christ".
You got that right. These guys aren't Christians anymore than Bush is a
Christian.
Hatemongers worship the Devil, like Falwell, Robertson and Dobbs.
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12 Mar 2006 02:35:17 PM |
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"Pastor Bluskie" A true Christian "let's kill the queers"!
"Pastor Bluskie" <wildbluskies@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142191507.872433.95930@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were arrested.
The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is imposed. How
dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is founded
on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
they should do hard time, but you know if you put those queers behind
bars they would be a threat to the peace and stability of the prison
system. They shoud be killed instead.
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16 Mar 2006 09:22:15 PM |
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"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
news:lz%Qf.1455$TB1.1299@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
"Pastor Bluskie" A true Christian "let's kill the queers"!
Well, that IS what the Old Testament calls for.
Truth is that the Christian Bible is a horrible book, those who scrupulously
comply with its teachings are no better than thugs. Pious thugs, but thugs
nonetheless.
-Tock
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20 Mar 2006 05:43:43 PM |
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It isn't possible for "Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> to really and
truthfully being Christian--as you can see he doesn't comply with the two
Categorical Imperatives of the Gospels, Law and Prophets:
"For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted
of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have
tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they
shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to
themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame." [Hebrews
6:4-8]
- dolf
- http://home.iprimus.com.au/telos/
"Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
news:lz%Qf.1455$TB1.1299@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
"Pastor Bluskie" A true Christian "let's kill the queers"!
Well, that IS what the Old Testament calls for.
Truth is that the Christian Bible is a horrible book, those who scrupulously
comply with its teachings are no better than thugs. Pious thugs, but thugs
nonetheless.
DOLF:
A comment needs to be made, as to the purpose, function and differences
between the traditional DAOIST/TORAH (Pythagorean) A-U-M worldview of the
religious/political Mysteries associated to both the Tetragrammation of
Number (Sephirot) obtained from yarrow sticks/stones {ie. According to Yang
Hsiung's (53 BCE to 18 CE) tetragram system, each four-line glyph has 3
possibilities {ie. 3 x 3 x 3 x 3 = #81} whose component parts are read from
top to bottom, comprising either:
(3) an unbroken line correlated to YANG/FATHER {+ 0, 27, 54};
(9) a line broken once representing YIN/MOTHER {+ 0, 9, 18}; and
(27) a line broken twice symbolising ZHUN/SON {+ 0, 3, 6}
(81) as its culturing as that which organises {ie. within its sphere/ONE
within FAMILY: + 0, 81, 9(9²+1)/2 = #369} the myriad of individual phenomena
(WAN WU): + 1, 2, 3} = Tetragrammation hierarchy value.
"The Mystery gives birth to two divine images. The two divine images give
birth to the spherical [universe]. The cosmic sphere gives birth to Three
Models [of Heaven-Earth-Man]. The Three Models give birth to the Nine
Positions. The Mystery in having the model 'One' {ie. YANG/FATHER {+ 0, 27 -
Paradoxes of the Greatest Skill/ Function of Skill, 54 - Culturing
Perspectives/ Cultivation of Intuition}} attains to Heaven. Therefore, we
say of it that it 'has Heaven [in it].' The Mystery in having the model
'Two' {ie. YIN/MOTHER {+ 0, 9 - Inconstancy of Achievement/ Practising
Placidity, 18 - Origin of Ethical Concepts/ Palliation of Vulgarity}}
attains to Earth. Therefore, we say of it that it 'has Earth [in it]'. The
Mystery in having the model 'Three' {ie. ZHUN/SON {+ 0, 3 - Prescriptions
for Politics/ Keeping the People Quiet, 6 - Superiority of the Female/
Completion of Form}} attains to Man. Therefore, we say of it that it 'has
Man [in it]'.
The sage investigates changes in the moon's appearance and location, as well
as departures from its orbit {ie. The term TS'E NI means 'to lose the
regular course' where for every 19 years there must be 7 intercalary months
(Heaven's Compensation) and presumably may include irregularities such as
eclipses:
"Heaven and Earth face each other. Sun and moon are in conjunction. Mountain
and valley flow into one another. Light and heavy float on one another. Yin
and Yang succeed one another. High and low rank do not defile one another."
}. He only finds a norm in the constant sequence of sun and moon, and in the
order of male and female. He makes them the canonical model for all
eternity. Therefore, the Mystery in grand fashion comprises Heaven's
Origins, binding and securing it to what is to come.
The Mystery works with multiples of six and nine. The divining stalks use
three times six (ie. 18). The Priniciples of Heaven and Earth uses two times
nine (also = 18). The Mystery certainly does use eighteen as a base then!
The Grand Accumulation Sum begins with 18 - 'Origin of Ethical Concepts/
Palliation of Vulgarity' divining stalks and ends with 54 - 'Culturing
Perspectives/ Cultivation of Intuition'. If we add the numbers that
correspond to the beginning and end of the stalks, 18 + 54 = #72 -
'Self-Love/ Holding Oneself Dear', we halve it to make the Grand Centre {=
36 - Natural Reversals/ 'Secret' Explanation; Tallying the vertical axis
produces:
#1 - To Guide with Names/ Reason's Realisation,
Categorical Imperative: (#27 - Paradoxes of the Greatest Skill/ Function of
Skill + #9 - Inconstancy of Achievement/ Practising Placidity + #3 -
Prescriptions for Politics/ Keeping the People Quiet + #2 - Contrast of
Terms/ Self-Culture) = #41 - Playing with Reversal/ Sameness in Difference
(Septet form 9(9²+1)/2 = #369 as Centre = 13 to 17 September; with the new
moon 18 September 2001 = 1 Tishri 5762 as 122J3W2D) ,
Categorical Imperative: (#54 - Culturing Perspectives/ Cultivation of
Intuition + #18 - Origin of Ethical Concepts/ Palliation of Vulgarity + #6 -
Superiority of the Female/ Completion of Form + #3 - Prescriptions for
Politics/ Keeping the People Quiet) = #81 - Making the Essence Clear/
Propounding the Essential (Telos ('achariyth) = Arch (re'shiyth) + c² : 22/7
as 3W1D with an implied Wednesday 20 March vernal equinox/new moon 21
March/1 Nisan as 'oth 294 year [24 x 7 x 13] cycle {ie. 294 x 364 = 293 x
365.2425 days}
#1 as Partial Solar eclipse Monday 25 December 2000 (122J3W1D) = 20 x 6J +
2J + 3W1D (22 years) + #41 as Total Solar eclipse 21 June 2001)
It is these two imperatives, which both the Torah [Deuteronomy 6:5;
Leviticus 19:18] and Jesus of Nazareth affirm are the essential substance of
the Law and the Prophets: "Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a
question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment
in the law? Jesus {He is saved; a deliverer; a saviour} said unto him, Thou
shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and
with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second
is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two
commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
While the Pharisees {ie. within the contemporaneous Dead Sea Scrolls as
Flattery Seekers} were gathered together, Jesus asked them, Saying, What
think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David
{well beloved; dear}. He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call
him Lord, saying, The LORD-YHWH said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right
hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? {
"Now David the son of Jesse {gift; oblation; one who is} was wise and shone
like the sun, a scribe and man of discernment, blameless in all his ways
before God and men. The LORD gave him a brilliant and discerning spirit, so
that he wrote: psalms, three thousand six hundred; songs to sing before the
altar accompanying the daily perpetual burnt offering, for all the days of
the year, three hundred and sixty-four; for the Sabbath offerings, fifty-two
songs; and for the New Moon offerings, all the festival days, and the Day of
Atonement, thirty songs." [Apocryphal Psalms of David, 11Q5 Col. 27:2-8]
"All these he composed through prophecy given him by the Most High." [11Q5
Col. 27:11]
"And being let go, [Peter {a rock or stone} and John {the grace or mercy of
the Lord}] went to their own companions {ie. evidently JEWISH CHRISTIANS}
and reported all that the chief priests and elders {ie. evidently JEWS} had
said to them. So when they heard that, they raised their voice to God with
one accord and said,
'Lord, you are God, who made the heaven {YANG-FATHER}, and earth
{YIN-MOTHER} and the sea {ZHUN-SON, ABYSS}, and all that is in them, who by
the mouth of your servant David have said, 'Why did the nations rage, and
the people plot vain things? The kings of the earth took their stand, and
the rules were gathered together against the LORD and against his Christ.'
[Psalm 2:1-2]
For Truly against your holy servant Jesus {He is saved/A savior; a
deliverer} [of Nazareth {ie. SOVEREIGNTY; one chosen or set apart;
separated; crowned; sanctified}], whom you annointed-CHRIO {ie. he was the
Christ}, both Herod {son of a hero} and Pontius {marine; belonging to the
sea} Pilate {armed with a dart}, with the Gentiles and the people of Israel
{he that sees God; he that prevails with God}, were gathered together."
[Acts 4:23-27]
} If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? And no man was able to
answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any
more questions." [Matthew 22:35-46] (KJV circa 1611 CE)
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On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 03:22:15 GMT, "Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
alt.atheism
"Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
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"Pastor Bluskie" A true Christian "let's kill the queers"!
Well, that IS what the Old Testament calls for.
Truth is that the Christian Bible is a horrible book, those who scrupulously
comply with its teachings are no better than thugs.
It cannot be complied with as it metaphorically talks out of both sides
of its mouth.
Pious thugs, but thugs nonetheless.
Pig ignorant, superstitious, cowardly, and hypocritical cretins.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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Frank Arthur wrote:
"Pastor Bluskie" <wildbluskies@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142191507.872433.95930@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were arrested.
The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is imposed. How
dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is founded
on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
they should do hard time, but you know if you put those queers behind
bars they would be a threat to the peace and stability of the prison
system. They shoud be killed instead.
"Pastor Bluskie" A true Christian "let's kill the queers"!
and dont forget torture, we need to torture them first, then kill them.
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12 Mar 2006 06:37:00 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Pastor Bluskie
(wildbluskies@hotmail.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Frank Arthur wrote:
"Pastor Bluskie" <wildbluskies@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142191507.872433.95930@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were
arrested. The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is
imposed. How dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is
founded on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
they should do hard time, but you know if you put those queers
behind bars they would be a threat to the peace and stability of
the prison system. They shoud be killed instead.
"Pastor Bluskie" A true Christian "let's kill the queers"!
and dont forget torture, we need to torture them first, then kill
them.
I pine for the days when they used to throw christians to the lions.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Atheists get to live their lives in accordance with their own desires. I
call that a win, compared to the collossal waste of time being an active
Christian. Atheist: win. Christian: lose. "No win" never comes into
play, because there are no gods.
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12 Mar 2006 05:25:08 PM |
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Pastor Bluskie wrote:
Frank Arthur wrote:
"Pastor Bluskie" <wildbluskies@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142191507.872433.95930@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were arrested.
The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is imposed. How
dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is founded
on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
they should do hard time, but you know if you put those queers behind
bars they would be a threat to the peace and stability of the prison
system. They shoud be killed instead.
"Pastor Bluskie" A true Christian "let's kill the queers"!
and dont forget torture, we need to torture them first, then kill them.
God must be happy to have followers like you.
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13 Mar 2006 01:25:22 AM |
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Pastor Bluskie wrote:
J Young wrote:
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were arrested.
The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is imposed. How dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is founded on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
they should do hard time, but you know if you put those queers behind
bars they would be a threat to the peace and stability of the prison
system. They shoud be killed instead.
And you wonder why they used to feed you people to
lions.
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| User: "LAmazone" |
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| Title: Re: 24 homosexual-rights activists arrested at Falwell university |
13 Mar 2006 09:45:35 AM |
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J Young wrote:
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were arrested.
The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is imposed. How dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is founded on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
How did anyone snivel? How were they cowards? They would just prefer dialogue to
arrest.
Personally, I think it is a waste of time as fundamentalism, in Cardinal
Ratzinger's words, is a form of intellectual suicide
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49225
51-day Equality Ride targeting Christian colleges, military schools over
no-'gay' admission policies
On the first stop of a 51-day "gay-rights" bus tour aimed at bringing media
attention to the non-admission policies for gays at 20 Christian colleges
and military schools, 24 members of the Soulforce Equality Ride found
themselves sitting in the Lynchburg, Virginia, jail, arrested for
trespassing at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University and facing possible $2,500
fines and a year in jail.
The group of 35 gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered, and straight 18- to
28-year-olds had been warned ahead of their arrival they would not be
welcome on campus.
"It is now our firm belief that Soulforce is not acting in good faith and is
simply trying to use such encounters on Christian college campuses as a
media attraction and for their ultimate purpose of fundraising," Chancellor
Falwell said in a written statement.
Liberty had been targeted by an earlier version of the Equality Ride last
year and has a long history of dealings with Soulforce, the homosexual group
started by Mel White, a writer who once worked for Falwell.
Soulforce members told the Advocate, a homosexual newspaper, they had not
intended to be arrested and had simply hoped to talk to Liberty students.
With 19 schools yet to go, Equality Ride may find the cost of putting up
bail and paying fines a strain on the project's budget. Equality Ride's
founder, Reitan expressed pride over those who confronted Liberty University
and were arrested, but says he's hoping for "productive dialogue" at the
remaining stops.
"I hope that schools down the road won't make the same choice that Liberty
made," Reitan said.
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" The truth shall set you free "
--
Natalie Clifford Barney
Membre; L' Academie des Femmes
One of the Lesbian Immortals of the Left Bank
We never die....
"If too little of the love I invoke appears in this book, it is because I have
better spent it elsewhere. Here there remain only fragments."
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: 24 homosexual-rights activists arrested at Falwell university |
13 Mar 2006 09:43:06 PM |
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L'Amazone wrote:
Personally, I think it is a waste of time as fundamentalism, in Cardinal
Ratzinger's words, is a form of intellectual suicide
Um, you forgot the <Irony> markers...
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"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
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| User: "The Watch Dog" |
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| Title: Re: 24 homosexual-rights activists arrested at Falwell university |
12 Mar 2006 02:34:02 PM |
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Jesus said:
Love your enemy. Turn the other cheek.
J Young wrote:
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were arrested.
The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is imposed. How dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is founded on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
Take your pick.
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| User: "The Pervert" |
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| Title: Re: 24 homosexual-rights activists arrested at Falwell university |
12 Mar 2006 07:06:52 PM |
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"The Watch Dog" <tirhuan@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1142195641.924232.209740@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
J Young wrote:
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were
arrested.
The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is imposed. How
dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is
founded on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
Jesus said:
Love your enemy. Turn the other cheek.
Take your pick.
Agreed that J Young is a hypocritical *****. On the other hand, it seems
that the Soulforce Equality Ride were looking for a confrontation, and they
got it. I don't believe for a moment that they "had simply hoped to talk to
Liberty students." There's no media value in friendly conversation.
There is some merit to the notion of "don't do the crime if you can't do the
time." Seems like zealots of all stripes have forgotten the idea of being
responsible for one's actions, be it Pat Robertson or these idiots.
I would be delighted for them to be fined the 2500 bucks and have to do some
minimal jail time (like 60 days).
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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| Title: Re: 24 homosexual-rights activists arrested at Falwell university |
12 Mar 2006 08:25:27 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:21:15 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were arrested.
I know it doesn't mean anything to the religious. When I was in
Army Special Forces, the gay guys I knew were a lot braver than me.
I wouldn't categorize gay men as being 'little cowards'.
If you have been there and done that 'You sniveling little
religious, balless arm chair warrior', you might have a brain cell.
The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is imposed. How dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is founded on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
Superstition is not 'higher learning'. It's the extreme Lower
Learning. The very bulls eye against human development.
Aside from all I've said. There is nothing moral or decent about
religion. The facts of it speak for themselves
Look at you. The Gadfly of hate, ignorance and religious
brainwashing. You haven't had an original thought to be pro life since
you disgraced Usenet with you post and paste comments about religious
hatred.
You're the Talichristo.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "michael james" |
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| Title: Re: 24 homosexual-rights activists arrested at Falwell university |
12 Mar 2006 09:55:21 PM |
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Steve Knight wrote:
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:21:15 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were arrested.
I know it doesn't mean anything to the religious. When I was in
Army Special Forces, the gay guys I knew were a lot braver than me.
I wouldn't categorize gay men as being 'little cowards'.
If you have been there and done that 'You sniveling little
religious, balless arm chair warrior', you might have a brain cell.
And something J Young doesnt seem to realize that those gays, as you
yourself were, were ready to give up their lives for the little puke,
while he sits behind his computer screen, nice and safe.
The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is imposed. How dare
they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose very being is founded on
morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you have to pay.
Superstition is not 'higher learning'. It's the extreme Lower
Learning. The very bulls eye against human development.
Aside from all I've said. There is nothing moral or decent about
religion. The facts of it speak for themselves
Look at you. The Gadfly of hate, ignorance and religious
brainwashing. You haven't had an original thought to be pro life since
you disgraced Usenet with you post and paste comments about religious
hatred.
You're the Talichristo.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: 24 homosexual-rights activists arrested at Falwell university |
12 Mar 2006 08:39:06 PM |
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Why would any homosexual want to attend a college run by Jerry Falwell?
Feel free to replace the world homosexual above with any other more
mainstream term that is more socially acceptable if you like (as far as
practices go). I am sure you could argue that such would also apply.
- Richard Hutnik
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| User: "Nick J." |
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| Title: Re: 24 homosexual-rights activists arrested at Falwell university |
12 Mar 2006 08:52:44 PM |
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wrote:
Why would any homosexual want to attend a college run by Jerry Falwell?
Feel free to replace the world homosexual above with any other more
mainstream term that is more socially acceptable if you like (as far as
practices go). I am sure you could argue that such would also apply.
- Richard Hutnik
Indeed. "Why would any sane, decent human being want to attend a
college run by Jerry Falwell?" also works perfectly, as anyone can
plainly see :)
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| User: "Boy Toy" |
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| Title: Re: 24 homosexual-rights activists arrested at Falwell university |
17 Mar 2006 05:10:03 PM |
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On 12 Mar 2006 18:52:44 -0800, "Nick J." <NICK0094@hotmail.com> wrote
in message <1142218364.422098.228390@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
richardhutnik@hotmail.com wrote:
Why would any homosexual want to attend a college run by Jerry Falwell?
Feel free to replace the world homosexual above with any other more
mainstream term that is more socially acceptable if you like (as far as
practices go). I am sure you could argue that such would also apply.
- Richard Hutnik
Indeed. "Why would any sane, decent human being want to attend a
college run by Jerry Falwell?" also works perfectly, as anyone can
plainly see :)
Apparently even Jerry Falwell wouldn't want to attend a college run by
Jerry Falwell. After all, they are all just a bunch of "elite
academics." Of course, on the other hand, maybe they *aren't* so
"elite" at Liberty University. It must be hard to find good faculty
who would be willing to work in such a stultifying atmosphere. Can
you imagine teaching a science at Liberty University? Can you imagine
anybody giving credit to a science degree from Liberty University?
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| User: "Non-demopublican Voter" |
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| Title: Re: 24 homosexual-rights activists arrested at Falwell university |
13 Mar 2006 02:31:04 AM |
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You're a closeted gay, aren't you, J?
On 12 Mar 2006, J Young wrote:
These sniveling little cowards are now crying because they were
arrested. The maximun penalty is one year in jail and I hope it is
imposed. How dare they disturb an institute of higher learning, whose
very being is founded on morals and decency. You wanted to play, now you
have to pay.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: 24 homosexual-rights activists arrested at Falwell university |
13 Mar 2006 04:03:07 AM |
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*You're a closeted gay, aren't you, J?
Of course, he is: who, beside a self-loathing closet gay, would daily
send postings about homosexuality?
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| User: "The Pervert" |
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| Title: Re: 24 homosexual-rights activists arrested at Falwell university |
13 Mar 2006 01:49:01 PM |
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"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142244187.515773.271850@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
*You're a closeted gay, aren't you, J?
Of course, he is: who, beside a self-loathing closet gay, would daily
send postings about homosexuality?
By that fairly tortured excuse for reasoning, wouldn't that make you a
closet breeder?
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