"Olrik" <olrik666@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 1, 12:04 am, "Wilson" <wil...@universal.com> wrote:

"Jd" <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote in message

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***PALESTINIAN ROCKETS CONTINUE TO FALL IN ISRAEL***

"Two weeks ago Palestinian militant factions, including Hamas, sharply
stepped up the rocket fire
from across the border, ending a tenuous six-month cease-fire. About
270
Qassam rockets have been
launched at Israel since then, according to the Israeli Army, many
landing
in or around Sderot.
Israel has responded by pounding Hamas military compounds and outposts
in
Gaza and attacking groups
it believes to be rocket-launching cells, mainly from the air. But
psychologists and mental health
workers here describe a population that has become paralyzed by the
terror
of the last red alert and
the dread of the next one. Even taking a shower is stressful, Sderot's
residents say. Rockets can
strike anywhere, anytime, and with the water running, people cannot
hear
the alert and take
shelter." (Isabel Kershner, The New York Times, June 1, 2007)

Jd

Just out of curiousity, do you know the number of bombs and rockets
Israel
has fired on the Palestinian civilian population?

Not to mention Lebanon...

This bloody fucking region gave us the three major monotheist
religions, and they're still at war thousands of years hence...

Olrik

George Carlin said it best, to paraphrase; It becomes a contest of "My god
has a bigger ***** than your god".

In article <ua8j8393afmuns55jlmr16hue74k9fqmal@4ax.com>, Jos Flachs
<xwcruise@ksc15.th.com> wrote:

On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 00:04:54 -0400, "Wilson" <wilson@universal.com>
wrote:

Just out of curiousity, do you know the number of bombs and rockets Israel
has fired on the Palestinian civilian population?

I do. Zero.

The Israeli government doesn't target the civilian population.

That's not true.

http://hrw.org/reports/2007/iopt0707/1.htm#_Toc170198336

Palestinian Rocket Attacks

From September 2005 through May 2007, Palestinian armed groups fired
almost 2,700 rockets into Israel, killing 4 Israeli civilians, and
injuring 75 civilians and at least 9 soldiers, according to the United
Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UNOCHA)
(see Appendices III-V for casualty and weapons numbers). Two of those
deaths occurred in the last two weeks of May 2007. An additional six
civilians died in rocket attacks from mid-2004 through August 2005.
Palestinian rockets have also killed at least two and injured at least
21 Palestinian civilians when they landed short of the Israeli border.
The rockets, made in Gaza and generically known as ³Qassams² after the
name of the armed wing of Hamas, the Islamic Resistance Movement, are
highly inaccurate and cannot be directed at a specific target.

Israeli Artillery Shelling

From September 2005 through May 2007, the same period covered by the
rocket attack statistics cited above, the IDF fired 14,617 artillery
shells into Gaza. This fire killed at least 59 people, wounded another
270 people, and did significant damage to many civilian structures.

6 Of
the 38 Palestinians killed through September 2006, 17 were children
under the age of 16, 12 were women, and one was a 60-year-old man;

Human Rights Watch, in its field investigations, identified 5 of the
remaining 8 men as civilians.7 A subsequent artillery attack on
November 8 killed or mortally wounded 23 and injured at least 40
Palestinians, all civilians. As discussed below, this last incident led
to an Israeli moratorium on further use of artillery in Gaza, which
continued as this report went to press in mid-June 2007.

These casualties are in addition to those killed directly by Israeli
soldiers during the Intifada, and are only from 2005. The total
casualties from 2000 on are as follows. Note that the majority are
either non-participants or unsure, and 836 are minors.

http://www.btselem.org/English/Statistics/Casualties.asp

You'll note that over half of those killed were not taking part in
"hostilities" though hostilities usually consists of throwing rocks.
http://www.palestinercs.org/crisistables/table_of_figures.htm

That's a lot of civilian deaths for a regime that is allegedly not
targeting civilians.

Add to that the arrests, beatings, torture, abuse,
humiliation, economic depravation and mass starvation Palestinians
endure every day from the Israel Occupation Forces for a more complete
picture of what is being done to civilians.

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:59:30 GMT, Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote:

Sean C wrote:

In article <qt2e83ln3emg63kf2vgeam226gp91pr5ea@4ax.com>, Jd
<ZionsFire@att.net> wrote:

***PALESTINIAN ROCKETS CONTINUE TO FALL IN ISRAEL***

"Two weeks ago Palestinian militant factions, including Hamas, sharply
stepped up the rocket fire
from across the border, ending a tenuous six-month cease-fire. About 270
Qassam rockets have been
launched at Israel since then, according to the Israeli Army, many landing in
or around Sderot.
Israel has responded by pounding Hamas military compounds and outposts in
Gaza and attacking groups
it believes to be rocket-launching cells, mainly from the air. But
psychologists and mental health
workers here describe a population that has become paralyzed by the terror of
the last red alert and
the dread of the next one. Even taking a shower is stressful, Sderot’s
residents say. Rockets can
strike anywhere, anytime, and with the water running, people cannot hear the
alert and take
shelter." (Isabel Kershner, The New York Times, June 1, 2007)

Jd

Then I suppose there are 30,000 reasons to boycott Israel and cut them
off from the family of nations until they straighten their ***** out
(30,000 being the number of purely civilian targets destroyed in
Israel's recent terrorist attacks against Lebanon, including 15,000
apartment buildings, power plants, schools, hospitals, bridges, fishing
boats, grain silos, etc., etc.).

--Sean C

Certainly not.

Why are you miffed when Israel fights back?

Probably because their method of "fighting back" more often than not
bears a closer resemblance to a drive-by shooting than to any
legitimate defensive action.

in article uuq2a3546hjjfp3638tcmgdads131l7cbc@4ax.com, Jd at
ZionsFire@att.net wrote on 7/20/07 7:59 PM:

Sean C wrote:

In article <qt2e83ln3emg63kf2vgeam226gp91pr5ea@4ax.com>, Jd
<ZionsFire@att.net> wrote:

***PALESTINIAN ROCKETS CONTINUE TO FALL IN ISRAEL***

"Two weeks ago Palestinian militant factions, including Hamas, sharply
stepped up the rocket fire
from across the border, ending a tenuous six-month cease-fire. About 270
Qassam rockets have been
launched at Israel since then, according to the Israeli Army, many landing
in
or around Sderot.
Israel has responded by pounding Hamas military compounds and outposts in
Gaza and attacking groups
it believes to be rocket-launching cells, mainly from the air. But
psychologists and mental health
workers here describe a population that has become paralyzed by the terror
of
the last red alert and
the dread of the next one. Even taking a shower is stressful, Sderot’s
residents say. Rockets can
strike anywhere, anytime, and with the water running, people cannot hear the
alert and take
shelter." (Isabel Kershner, The New York Times, June 1, 2007)

Jd

Then I suppose there are 30,000 reasons to boycott Israel and cut them
off from the family of nations until they straighten their ***** out
(30,000 being the number of purely civilian targets destroyed in
Israel's recent terrorist attacks against Lebanon, including 15,000
apartment buildings, power plants, schools, hospitals, bridges, fishing
boats, grain silos, etc., etc.).

--Sean C

Certainly not.

Why are you miffed when Israel fights back?

I don't think anyone here gets miffed when Israel fights back.

I think it's the blindly swinging around at the innocent bystanders that
we're upset about.