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"J Young" |
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21 Jul 2005 11:40:18 PM |
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52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike |
Good! Let them suffer a slow, painful death at their own hands. Justice
will be served, and our nation's collective conscience will be clean.
http://www.voanews.com/english/2005-07-21-voa61.cfm
52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike
The U.S. Defense Department says 52 detainees at the U.S. military
prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, are on a hunger strike to protest their
continued detention.
In a statement Thursday, Pentagon officials said the hunger strike
began three days ago and appears to be temporary. The Pentagon says
some detainees have abandoned the strike.
But, the Los Angeles Times reported Thursday that two prisoners
recently released from the facility say there are 180 prisoners on
hunger strike, demanding better conditions and more information on
their cases.
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| User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" |
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| Title: Re: 52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike |
22 Jul 2005 12:13:02 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1122007218.760711.7300@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Good! Let them suffer a slow, painful death at their own hands. Justice
will be served, and our nation's collective conscience will be clean.
Mmmm, feel the warmth of that Christian love. Mmmmm.
Can you feel it too? Mmmm. Warm Christian love.
--
rb #2187
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: 52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike |
22 Jul 2005 09:21:24 AM |
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"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" <stoshu@bellsouth.net.pa> wrote in message
news:yf%De.17444$3o4.15722@tornado.socal.rr.com...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1122007218.760711.7300@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Good! Let them suffer a slow, painful death at their own hands. Justice
will be served, and our nation's collective conscience will be clean.
Mmmm, feel the warmth of that Christian love. Mmmmm.
Can you feel it too? Mmmm. Warm Christian love.
<grin>
Except, in the case of this sockpuppeting troll and admitted Ku Klux Kook,
it's 'Kristian':
"I'm no Grand Wizard. Although I did meet him and speak to him on several
occasions back during my first days with his ... organization. See,
azzhole... they all wear business suites now-days. Makes it so much easier
to watch the other's backs."~ From: (IBen Getiner AKA "J
Young")
Message-ID: <20040803050412.23098.00002844@mb-m07.aol.com>
LC~ "J" hates everyone.
"IBen (I don't question God...I just use 'em how ever I need to)Getiner"
From: (IBen Getiner AKA "J Young")
Message-ID:
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| User: "torresD" |
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| Title: Re: 52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike |
23 Jul 2005 01:03:13 PM |
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http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/home.asp
Bush Administration Files 11th Hour
Papers Blocking the Release of Darby
CD Photos and Video of Abu Ghraib Torture
WASHINGTON - July 22 -
The Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR)
today denounced the latest efforts of the
Bush Administration to block the release
of the Darby photos and videos depicting
torture at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison facility.
On June 2, 2004, CCR, along with the ACLU,
Physicians for Human Rights, Veterans for
Common Sense,
and Veterans for Peace filed papers
with the U.S. District Court,
charging the Department of Defense
and other government agencies with
illegally withholding records concerning
the abuse of detainees in American military
custody.
Since then,
the organizations have been repeatedly
rebuffed in their efforts to investigate
what happened at the prison.
In June,
the government requested and received
an extension from the judge stating that
they needed time in order to redact the
faces of the men,
women and children believed to
be shown in the photographs and
videos.
They were given until
today to produce the images,
but at the eleventh hour filed
a motion to oppose the release
of the photos and videos,
based on an entirely new argument:
they are now requesting a 7(F) exemption
from disclosure under the Freedom of
Information Act to withhold law
enforcement-related information
in order to protect the physical
safety of individuals.
Today's move is the latest in a series
of attempts by the government to keep
the images from being made public and
to cover up the torture of detainees
in U.S. custody around the world.
Joseph Darby was the U.S reservist who
turned over the photos and videos to U.S.
Army officials and touched off the Abu
Ghraib scandal in April 2004.
"This is absolutely unacceptable,"
stated Michael Ratner,
President of the Center
for Constitutional Rights.
"We can not move forward from
this scandal until we have a
full public accounting and
independent investigation
into what happened at Abu Ghraib.
The government cannot continue
to hide evidence of torture.
The time to release these photos
and videos was a long time ago."
Expectations are that the FOIA
request will release more than
100 photos and 4 videos;
all believed to document deplorable
human rights violations by U.S.
military personnel against Iraqi
civilians.
Barbara Olshansky,
Deputy Legal Director of the
Center for Constitutional Rights, stated,
"The public must be informed of
what is being done in our name.
It is this Administration that has
put our troops at risk and caused
world-wide anger by fostering policies
that promote torture and refusing to
hold those responsible publicly
accountable."
The Center for Constitutional Rights
once more calls for a complete,
transparent independent investigation
into the torture and abuse of detainees
that goes all the way up the chain of
command and demands that the Administration
apply the Geneva Conventions to every detainee
being held in U.S. custody around the world.
This is part of the request under the
Freedom of Information Act filed by
the Center for Constitutional Rights,
the ACLU, Physicians for Human Rights,
Veterans for Common Sense and Veterans for Peace.
The FOIA lawsuit is being handled by
Lawrence Lustberg and Megan Lewis of
the New Jersey-based law firm Gibbons,
Del Deo, Dolan, Griffinger & Vecchione, P.C
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| User: "Mickey" |
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| Title: Re: 52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike |
23 Jul 2005 02:56:45 PM |
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"torresD" <torresd30@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BDvEe.15885$aY6.14657@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/home.asp
Bush Administration Files 11th Hour
Papers Blocking the Release of Darby
CD Photos and Video of Abu Ghraib Torture
NHI
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| User: "Docky Wocky" |
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| Title: Re: 52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike |
22 Jul 2005 11:18:09 AM |
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j young sez:
"52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike..."
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Let's not jump to conclusions here.
I suggest we wait for 3 - 4 months to see what happens.
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| User: "Mickey" |
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| Title: Re: 52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike |
22 Jul 2005 11:20:33 AM |
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"Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message
news:5%8Ee.2647$dM3.58@trnddc04...
j young sez:
"52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike..."
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Let's not jump to conclusions here.
I suggest we wait for 3 - 4 months to see what happens.
Great idea!!!
lol
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: 52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike |
22 Jul 2005 11:44:32 AM |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:20:33 -0400 in alt.atheism, Mickey ("Mickey"
<mickeyb@comcast.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
"Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message
news:5%8Ee.2647$dM3.58@trnddc04...
j young sez:
"52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike..."
________________________________
Let's not jump to conclusions here.
I suggest we wait for 3 - 4 months to see what happens.
Great idea!!!
One imagines Bobby Sands, Francis Hughes, Raymond McCreesh, Patsy
O'Hara, Joe McDonnell, Martin Hurson, Kevin Lynch, Kieran Doherty,
Thomas McElwee, and Micky Devine would agree.
lol
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| User: "Mickey" |
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| Title: Re: 52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike |
22 Jul 2005 02:16:59 PM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:9f82e1db34r1dcn2kh4blcrkerjai5bo8a@4ax.com...
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:20:33 -0400 in alt.atheism, Mickey ("Mickey"
<mickeyb@comcast.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
"Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message
news:5%8Ee.2647$dM3.58@trnddc04...
j young sez:
"52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike..."
________________________________
Let's not jump to conclusions here.
I suggest we wait for 3 - 4 months to see what happens.
Great idea!!!
One imagines Bobby Sands, Francis Hughes, Raymond McCreesh, Patsy
O'Hara, Joe McDonnell, Martin Hurson, Kevin Lynch, Kieran Doherty,
Thomas McElwee, and Micky Devine would agree.
I can think of 3000 that died on 9-11 that would also agree. I can think of
250 that died in Bali that would also agree. I can think of 270 that died in
Madrid that would also agree, and I can think of 56 that died on 7-7 that
would agree as well. Seems to be a popular stance.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: 52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike |
22 Jul 2005 03:52:01 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:16:59 -0400 in alt.atheism, Mickey ("Mickey"
<mickeyb@comcast.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:9f82e1db34r1dcn2kh4blcrkerjai5bo8a@4ax.com...
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:20:33 -0400 in alt.atheism, Mickey ("Mickey"
<mickeyb@comcast.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
"Docky Wocky" <mrchuck@lst.net> wrote in message
news:5%8Ee.2647$dM3.58@trnddc04...
j young sez:
"52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike..."
________________________________
Let's not jump to conclusions here.
I suggest we wait for 3 - 4 months to see what happens.
Great idea!!!
One imagines Bobby Sands, Francis Hughes, Raymond McCreesh, Patsy
O'Hara, Joe McDonnell, Martin Hurson, Kevin Lynch, Kieran Doherty,
Thomas McElwee, and Micky Devine would agree.
I can think of 3000 that died on 9-11 that would also agree. I can think of
250 that died in Bali that would also agree. I can think of 270 that died in
Madrid that would also agree, and I can think of 56 that died on 7-7 that
would agree as well. Seems to be a popular stance.
"Whoosh"?
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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| Title: Re: 52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike |
22 Jul 2005 03:56:50 PM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
One imagines Bobby Sands, Francis Hughes, Raymond McCreesh, Patsy
O'Hara, Joe McDonnell, Martin Hurson, Kevin Lynch, Kieran Doherty,
Thomas McElwee, and Micky Devine would agree.
I can think of 3000 that died on 9-11 that would also agree. I can think of
250 that died in Bali that would also agree. I can think of 270 that died in
Madrid that would also agree, and I can think of 56 that died on 7-7 that
would agree as well. Seems to be a popular stance.
"Whoosh"?
Oh, Therion, you *just* beat me to it. Went right over his head. <G>
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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| User: "Mickey" |
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| Title: Re: 52 Detainees at Guantanamo on Hunger Strike |
22 Jul 2005 03:58:42 PM |
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"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1122065810.763235.56280@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Therion Ware wrote:
One imagines Bobby Sands, Francis Hughes, Raymond McCreesh, Patsy
O'Hara, Joe McDonnell, Martin Hurson, Kevin Lynch, Kieran Doherty,
Thomas McElwee, and Micky Devine would agree.
I can think of 3000 that died on 9-11 that would also agree. I can think
of
250 that died in Bali that would also agree. I can think of 270 that
died in
Madrid that would also agree, and I can think of 56 that died on 7-7
that
would agree as well. Seems to be a popular stance.
"Whoosh"?
Oh, Therion, you *just* beat me to it. Went right over his head. <G>
Nope, didn't go over my head at all. The fact that a collection of Irish
terrorists starved themselves to death is not germane to THIS issue
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