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22 Jun 2004 10:42:25 PM |
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7 of 9 performs sex acts at behest of Senate |
You've been assimilated.
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CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- The former wife of Republican Senate candidate
Jack Ryan claimed in divorce documents released Monday that he pressured
her to perform sex acts in clubs while others watched.
Jeri Lynn Ryan, an actress best known for roles on TV's "Boston Public" and
"Star Trek: Voyager," said in the documents that she angered Ryan by
refusing.
She did acknowledge infidelity on her part, which she said took place after
their marriage was irretrievably broken.
In the documents, Jack Ryan denied the allegations, saying he had been
"faithful and loyal" to his wife.
Jeri Lynn Ryan charged during a custody hearing that Ryan took her on
surprise trips to New Orleans, New York and Paris in 1998, and that he
insisted she go to sex clubs with him on each trip.
She said that after going to dinner with Ryan in New York, he demanded she
go to a club with him.
"It was a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from
the ceiling," she said. She said she refused when Ryan asked her to perform
a sexual act while others watched.
She said Ryan apologized after they left. But then, she said, he took her
to Paris and again took her to a sex club.
"I did arrange romantic getaways for us, but that did not include the type
of activity she described," Ryan said in the papers.
"We did go to one avant-garde nightclub in Paris which was more than either
one of us felt comfortable with. We left and vowed never to return."
He said he felt bad for their son that she would falsely accuse him.
In a statement released Monday, Jeri Lynn Ryan made no mention of the
allegations, but said she now considers Ryan a good man and loving father.
A Los Angeles judge on Friday ordered parts of the records unsealed.
The two vigorously fought the public disclosure of the files since before
Jack Ryan's win in the March 16 Republican primary. They have argued that
making them public would be harmful to their 9-year-old son, Alex.
The Ryans said they were "disturbed and angered" by the order, but decided
not to appeal.
Ryan had repeatedly assured GOP leaders the files contain nothing
embarrassing enough to torpedo his bid for the Senate against Democrat
Barack Obama.
Rumors about the documents' contents have been circulating since before the
March 16 primary. Some of his GOP opponents raised them as an issue in that
campaign, but Ryan won the primary handily.
The judge said making the records public could harm the Ryans' son and
embarrass the candidate. But he said the public deserved to know the
contents.
The Chicago Tribune and Chicago TV station WLS sued to have the documents
released.
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Where to find Fahrenheit 9/11: http://www.f911tix.com/
"There's nothing innocent about the Arabs, dumbass." - Creosote 216.67.201.248
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23 Jun 2004 12:16:34 PM |
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(Fredric L. Rice) wrote in message news:<10dhv6g3nhqek18@corp.supernews.com>...
You've been assimilated.
CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- The former wife of Republican Senate candidate
Jack Ryan claimed in divorce documents released Monday that he pressured
her to perform sex acts in clubs while others watched.
Jeri Lynn Ryan, an actress best known for roles on TV's "Boston Public" and
"Star Trek: Voyager," said in the documents that she angered Ryan by
refusing.
Democrats want sex in public office and religion in private,
and vice (no pun intended) versa for republicans.
Bob Dog
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23 Jun 2004 07:09:24 PM |
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"Bob Dog" <bg12345@apexmail.com> wrote in message
news:4fa573de.0406230916.3da0bd63@posting.google.com...
REMOVEFRice@SkepticTank.ORG (Fredric L. Rice) wrote in message
news:<10dhv6g3nhqek18@corp.supernews.com>...
You've been assimilated.
CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- The former wife of Republican Senate candidate
Jack Ryan claimed in divorce documents released Monday that he pressured
her to perform sex acts in clubs while others watched.
Jeri Lynn Ryan, an actress best known for roles on TV's "Boston Public"
and
"Star Trek: Voyager," said in the documents that she angered Ryan by
refusing.
Democrats want sex in public office and religion in private,
and vice (no pun intended) versa for republicans.
Democrats? Where does the word "Democrat" appear in the article?
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25 Jun 2004 10:06:31 AM |
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"Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net> wrote in message news:<cbd612$caj@library2.airnews.net>...
"Bob Dog" <bg12345@apexmail.com> wrote in message
news:4fa573de.0406230916.3da0bd63@posting.google.com...
REMOVEFRice@SkepticTank.ORG (Fredric L. Rice) wrote in message
news:<10dhv6g3nhqek18@corp.supernews.com>...
You've been assimilated.
Jeri Lynn Ryan, an actress best known for roles on TV's "Boston Public"
and
"Star Trek: Voyager," said in the documents that she angered Ryan by
refusing.
Democrats want sex in public office and religion in private,
and vice (no pun intended) versa for republicans.
Democrats? Where does the word "Democrat" appear in the article?
Is your memory that selective or that short? Think Lewinsky.
Bob Dog
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| User: "Hagar" |
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25 Jun 2004 03:22:18 PM |
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He suggested they do it, she said no. Should be the end of it; but wait,
he's a Republican, so let's hammer him and ruin his career.
This is brought to you by the same crowd whose former leader regularly got
hummers while in office and then got off Scott free because it depended on
what "is" is ....
"Bob Dog" <bg12345@apexmail.com> wrote in message
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"Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net> wrote in message
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"Bob Dog" <bg12345@apexmail.com> wrote in message
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REMOVEFRice@SkepticTank.ORG (Fredric L. Rice) wrote in message
news:<10dhv6g3nhqek18@corp.supernews.com>...
You've been assimilated.
Jeri Lynn Ryan, an actress best known for roles on TV's "Boston
Public"
and
"Star Trek: Voyager," said in the documents that she angered Ryan by
refusing.
Democrats want sex in public office and religion in private,
and vice (no pun intended) versa for republicans.
Democrats? Where does the word "Democrat" appear in the article?
Is your memory that selective or that short? Think Lewinsky.
Bob Dog
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| User: "Kermit" |
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26 Jun 2004 12:40:58 AM |
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"Hagar" <hagen@sahm.name> wrote in message news:<_P%Cc.46$ab4.41@news01.roc.ny>...
He suggested they do it, she said no. Should be the end of it; but wait,
he's a Republican, so let's hammer him and ruin his career.
Most of us here have said that he deserves his privacy. Even if he is
offensive, *she deserves her privacy, and the kid has now been abused.
This is brought to you by the same crowd whose former leader regularly got
hummers while in office and then got off Scott free because it depended on
what "is" is ....
Ummm... it wasn't illegal. And he got impeached, and hounded for two
years, and every political move he made was blocked. This is getting
off "scott free" for a legal - if tawdry - affair?
"Brought to you by the same crowd whose leader..." You mean Americans?
"Bob Dog" <bg12345@apexmail.com> wrote in message
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"Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net> wrote in message
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"Bob Dog" <bg12345@apexmail.com> wrote in message
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REMOVEFRice@SkepticTank.ORG (Fredric L. Rice) wrote in message
news:<10dhv6g3nhqek18@corp.supernews.com>...
You've been assimilated.
Jeri Lynn Ryan, an actress best known for roles on TV's "Boston
Public"
and
"Star Trek: Voyager," said in the documents that she angered Ryan by
refusing.
Democrats want sex in public office and religion in private,
and vice (no pun intended) versa for republicans.
And yet here, the data refutes you. The Republican wanted public sex,
and I assure you that Mr. Clinton wanted it to stay private. President
Clinton did not hide his Christianity, altho he did not make such a
public show of piety as Mr. Bush does. I know nothing about Ryan's
attitude toward this; I already know more about him than I needed to.
Democrats? Where does the word "Democrat" appear in the article?
Is your memory that selective or that short? Think Lewinsky.
That was a private affair. Ryan is reaping some of the oats the
Republicans sowed then. Starr's and other GOP politicians' obssessions
with sex and Clinton dragged on an affair which should have been of no
consequence to anyone but Hillary. Europe pretty much thought it was
much ado about nothing. The GOP established the new tradition that no
politican deserves privacy, especially regarding sex. I may disagree,
but it's a new century, and we have the US GOP to thank for much of
it. Welcome to the new coarsening American culture (not that we've
ever achieved maturity or elegance, but I had hopes).
Bob Dog
Kermit
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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25 Jun 2004 04:09:09 PM |
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He suggested they do it, she said no. Should be the end of it; but wait,
he's a Republican, so let's hammer him and ruin his career.
This is brought to you by the same crowd whose former leader regularly got
hummers while in office and then got off Scott free because it depended on
what "is" is ....
I believe the term you're looking for is "sauce for the gander."
Oh, btw, there is a significant difference between Clinton's actions and
Ryan's. As far as was able to be determined, Clinton's sexual relationship with
Lewinsky was consensual. Ryan's attempt to coerce his wife into having
non-consensual public sex was not. Now I know that the concept of consent means
nothing to you misogynist Taliban-wannabees so I understand you trying to
compare the two situations.
Now go back to your cave, Osama.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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23 Jun 2004 01:50:47 AM |
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Fredric L. Rice wrote:
You've been assimilated.
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CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- The former wife of Republican Senate candidate
Jack Ryan claimed in divorce documents released Monday that he pressured
her to perform sex acts in clubs while others watched.
Jeri Lynn Ryan, an actress best known for roles on TV's "Boston Public" and
"Star Trek: Voyager," said in the documents that she angered Ryan by
refusing.
She did acknowledge infidelity on her part, which she said took place after
their marriage was irretrievably broken.
So............
....the problem is?
SBJ
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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23 Jun 2004 02:08:41 AM |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 23:50:47 -0700 in alt.atheism, Soot Bull Jeep™
(Soot Bull Jeep™ <ding@dong.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Fredric L. Rice wrote:
You've been assimilated.
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CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- The former wife of Republican Senate candidate
Jack Ryan claimed in divorce documents released Monday that he pressured
her to perform sex acts in clubs while others watched.
Jeri Lynn Ryan, an actress best known for roles on TV's "Boston Public" and
"Star Trek: Voyager," said in the documents that she angered Ryan by
refusing.
She did acknowledge infidelity on her part, which she said took place after
their marriage was irretrievably broken.
So............
...the problem is?
Largely that she didn't choose to cry on my shoulder. Or something.
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- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
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23 Jun 2004 02:20:14 AM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 23:50:47 -0700 in alt.atheism, Soot Bull Jeep™
(Soot Bull Jeep™ <ding@dong.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Fredric L. Rice wrote:
You've been assimilated.
-=-
CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- The former wife of Republican Senate candidate
Jack Ryan claimed in divorce documents released Monday that he pressured
her to perform sex acts in clubs while others watched.
Jeri Lynn Ryan, an actress best known for roles on TV's "Boston Public" and
"Star Trek: Voyager," said in the documents that she angered Ryan by
refusing.
She did acknowledge infidelity on her part, which she said took place after
their marriage was irretrievably broken.
So............
...the problem is?
Largely that she didn't choose to cry on my shoulder. Or something.
Anne Howe!
Fresh rebounders will literally ***** your ***** off.
Had a friend once pick up one of these and spent 2 days with a catheter
up his schlong due to a ruptured penis.
Actually, I think the 8ball they hoovered that night had something to do
with it.
SBJ
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24 Jun 2004 04:30:56 AM |
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http://www.helpguide.org/mental/other_addictions.htm
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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23 Jun 2004 12:07:10 PM |
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On Tue 22 Jun 2004 10:42:25p, (Fredric L.
Rice) kicked back with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke
up, lit up a joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting
out:
You've been assimilated.
-=-
CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- The former wife of Republican Senate
candidate Jack Ryan claimed in divorce documents released Monday that
he pressured her to perform sex acts in clubs while others watched.
Jeri Lynn Ryan, an actress best known for roles on TV's "Boston
Public" and "Star Trek: Voyager," said in the documents that she
angered Ryan by refusing.
She did acknowledge infidelity on her part, which she said took place
after their marriage was irretrievably broken.
In the documents, Jack Ryan denied the allegations, saying he had been
"faithful and loyal" to his wife.
Jeri Lynn Ryan charged during a custody hearing that Ryan took her on
surprise trips to New Orleans, New York and Paris in 1998, and that he
insisted she go to sex clubs with him on each trip.
She said that after going to dinner with Ryan in New York, he demanded
she go to a club with him.
"It was a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging
from the ceiling," she said. She said she refused when Ryan asked her
to perform a sexual act while others watched.
She said Ryan apologized after they left. But then, she said, he took
her to Paris and again took her to a sex club.
"I did arrange romantic getaways for us, but that did not include the
type of activity she described," Ryan said in the papers.
"We did go to one avant-garde nightclub in Paris which was more than
either one of us felt comfortable with. We left and vowed never to
return."
He said he felt bad for their son that she would falsely accuse him.
In a statement released Monday, Jeri Lynn Ryan made no mention of the
allegations, but said she now considers Ryan a good man and loving
father.
A Los Angeles judge on Friday ordered parts of the records unsealed.
The two vigorously fought the public disclosure of the files since
before Jack Ryan's win in the March 16 Republican primary. They have
argued that making them public would be harmful to their 9-year-old
son, Alex.
The Ryans said they were "disturbed and angered" by the order, but
decided not to appeal.
Ryan had repeatedly assured GOP leaders the files contain nothing
embarrassing enough to torpedo his bid for the Senate against Democrat
Barack Obama.
Rumors about the documents' contents have been circulating since
before the March 16 primary. Some of his GOP opponents raised them as
an issue in that campaign, but Ryan won the primary handily.
The judge said making the records public could harm the Ryans' son and
embarrass the candidate. But he said the public deserved to know the
contents.
The Chicago Tribune and Chicago TV station WLS sued to have the
documents released.
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Where to find Fahrenheit 9/11: http://www.f911tix.com/
"There's nothing innocent about the Arabs, dumbass." - Creosote
216.67.201.248
Sooo... why do we deserve to know the contents, again? Does the public
deserve to know, for example, what's in your or my private childhood
journals? In fact, is there ANY private, personal information that "the
public" does NOT "deserve to know"?
What benefit would the public get out of this private information? Oh,
I know... they would get to gossip and giggle over it, gasp and goggle
at the headlines splashed across the tabloids, whisper excitedly with
the little old ladies next door about it, and generally act like nosy
little shits. Well then, in that case, I suppose the public certainly
DOES need to know, since we wouldn't want to deny anyone the opportunity
to act like a nosy little *****, now would we?
*****, sometimes the news media (and people who pander to the
gossipers) just pisses me off no end. "The public deserves it"... heh.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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23 Jun 2004 05:19:35 PM |
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:07:10 +0000 in episode
<Xns95117C896DCE3Mekkala@199.45.49.11> we saw our hero Mekkala
<joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com>:
On Tue 22 Jun 2004 10:42:25p, (Fredric L.
Rice) kicked back with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up,
lit up a joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
You've been assimilated.
-=-
CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- The former wife of Republican Senate candidate
Jack Ryan claimed in divorce documents released Monday that he pressured
her to perform sex acts in clubs while others watched.
Jeri Lynn Ryan, an actress best known for roles on TV's "Boston Public"
and "Star Trek: Voyager," said in the documents that she angered Ryan by
refusing.
She did acknowledge infidelity on her part, which she said took place
after their marriage was irretrievably broken.
In the documents, Jack Ryan denied the allegations, saying he had been
"faithful and loyal" to his wife.
Jeri Lynn Ryan charged during a custody hearing that Ryan took her on
surprise trips to New Orleans, New York and Paris in 1998, and that he
insisted she go to sex clubs with him on each trip.
She said that after going to dinner with Ryan in New York, he demanded
she go to a club with him.
"It was a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging
from the ceiling," she said. She said she refused when Ryan asked her to
perform a sexual act while others watched.
She said Ryan apologized after they left. But then, she said, he took
her to Paris and again took her to a sex club.
"I did arrange romantic getaways for us, but that did not include the
type of activity she described," Ryan said in the papers.
"We did go to one avant-garde nightclub in Paris which was more than
either one of us felt comfortable with. We left and vowed never to
return."
He said he felt bad for their son that she would falsely accuse him.
In a statement released Monday, Jeri Lynn Ryan made no mention of the
allegations, but said she now considers Ryan a good man and loving
father.
A Los Angeles judge on Friday ordered parts of the records unsealed.
The two vigorously fought the public disclosure of the files since
before Jack Ryan's win in the March 16 Republican primary. They have
argued that making them public would be harmful to their 9-year-old son,
Alex.
The Ryans said they were "disturbed and angered" by the order, but
decided not to appeal.
Ryan had repeatedly assured GOP leaders the files contain nothing
embarrassing enough to torpedo his bid for the Senate against Democrat
Barack Obama.
Rumors about the documents' contents have been circulating since before
the March 16 primary. Some of his GOP opponents raised them as an issue
in that campaign, but Ryan won the primary handily.
The judge said making the records public could harm the Ryans' son and
embarrass the candidate. But he said the public deserved to know the
contents.
The Chicago Tribune and Chicago TV station WLS sued to have the
documents released.
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Where to find Fahrenheit 9/11: http://www.f911tix.com/ "There's nothing
innocent about the Arabs, dumbass." - Creosote 216.67.201.248
Sooo... why do we deserve to know the contents, again? Does the public
deserve to know, for example, what's in your or my private childhood
journals? In fact, is there ANY private, personal information that "the
public" does NOT "deserve to know"?
What benefit would the public get out of this private information? Oh, I
know... they would get to gossip and giggle over it, gasp and goggle at
the headlines splashed across the tabloids, whisper excitedly with the
little old ladies next door about it, and generally act like nosy little
shits. Well then, in that case, I suppose the public certainly DOES need
to know, since we wouldn't want to deny anyone the opportunity to act like
a nosy little *****, now would we?
*****, sometimes the news media (and people who pander to the
gossipers) just pisses me off no end. "The public deserves it"... heh.
When a politician is ranting about *our business and wants to legislate
*our lives, what business does he have to scream about *his privacy being
invaded?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"I think it's the worst kept secret in Washington.
That everybody - everybody I talk to in Washington
has known and fully knows what [the neo-conservative]
agenda was and what they were trying to do."
[Retired General Anthony Zinni]
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25 Jun 2004 10:15:21 AM |
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On Wed 23 Jun 2004 05:19:35p, "Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> kicked
back with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a
joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
When a politician is ranting about *our business and wants to
legislate *our lives, what business does he have to scream about *his
privacy being invaded?
Mark, I suppose I just don't understand how a politician's sexual
practices are in any way relevant to how he does his job.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
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25 Jun 2004 07:08:15 PM |
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Mekkala <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote:
On Wed 23 Jun 2004 05:19:35p, "Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> kicked
back with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a
joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
When a politician is ranting about *our business and wants to
legislate *our lives, what business does he have to scream about *his
privacy being invaded?
Mark, I suppose I just don't understand how a politician's sexual
practices are in any way relevant to how he does his job.
It's _not_ relevant when it's kept to themselves. When it becomes
relevant is when politicans use other people's sexual activity as a
political tool (pun intended) against others given the immaturity
of the average American voter. The Republinazis hated Clintoon
because Clintoon was an excellent, valuable President that actually
helped people join the ranks of the middle class -- but they couldn't
attack his progress and undeniable positive effects in the US so
the rightards attacked his *****.
Pretty sick, actually. The rest of the world laughed at the
Republicans and, unforunately, all Americans.
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Where to find Fahrenheit 9/11: http://www.f911tix.com/
For activists: Not Ordered Text Server at http://www.notserver.com/
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25 Jun 2004 11:38:55 AM |
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:15:21 +0000 in episode
<Xns95136995929CBMekkala@199.45.49.11> we saw our hero Mekkala
<joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com>:
On Wed 23 Jun 2004 05:19:35p, "Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> kicked
back with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a
joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
When a politician is ranting about *our business and wants to legislate
*our lives, what business does he have to scream about *his privacy
being invaded?
Mark, I suppose I just don't understand how a politician's sexual
practices are in any way relevant to how he does his job.
According to the right, we do *not* have a Constitutional right to privacy.
If *I don't, neither does *he.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"I think it's the worst kept secret in Washington.
That everybody - everybody I talk to in Washington
has known and fully knows what [the neo-conservative]
agenda was and what they were trying to do."
[Retired General Anthony Zinni]
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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25 Jun 2004 12:09:38 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in
news:pan.2004.06.25.16.38.55.341895@hoo.com-amikchi:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:15:21 +0000 in episode
<Xns95136995929CBMekkala@199.45.49.11> we saw our hero Mekkala
<joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com>:
On Wed 23 Jun 2004 05:19:35p, "Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi>
kicked back with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up,
lit up a joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting
out:
When a politician is ranting about *our business and wants to
legislate *our lives, what business does he have to scream about
*his privacy being invaded?
Mark, I suppose I just don't understand how a politician's sexual
practices are in any way relevant to how he does his job.
According to the right, we do *not* have a Constitutional right to
privacy.
If *I don't, neither does *he.
Thus Mark justifies his own double standard by some other guy's
hypocrisy.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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25 Jun 2004 12:41:46 PM |
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In article <Xns951385E29D451fstone69@207.69.154.203>, fstone69
@earthling.com says...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in
news:pan.2004.06.25.16.38.55.341895@hoo.com-amikchi:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:15:21 +0000 in episode
<Xns95136995929CBMekkala@199.45.49.11> we saw our hero Mekkala
<joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com>:
On Wed 23 Jun 2004 05:19:35p, "Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi>
kicked back with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up,
lit up a joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting
out:
When a politician is ranting about *our business and wants to
legislate *our lives, what business does he have to scream about
*his privacy being invaded?
Mark, I suppose I just don't understand how a politician's sexual
practices are in any way relevant to how he does his job.
According to the right, we do *not* have a Constitutional right to
privacy.
If *I don't, neither does *he.
Thus Mark justifies his own double standard by some other guy's
hypocrisy.
No, he just expects our leaders to live under the conditions they impose
on others. If I haven't any right to privacy in my bedroom, why should
a congressman wannabe have such a right?
On the other hand, maybe we should ALL have a right to privacy in our
personal relationships.
--
Enkidu - AA# 2165
"Today, the theory of evolution is an accepted fact for
everyone but a fundamentalist minority, whose objections
are based not on reasoning but on doctrinaire adherence
to religious principles"
James D. Watson
http://www.nobel.se/medicine/laureates/1962/watson-bio.html
"The Astonishing Hypothesis is that `You,' your joys and
your sorrows, your memories and your ambitions, your
sense of personal identity and free will, are in fact no
more than the behavior of a vast assembly of nerve cells
and their associated molecules."
Francis Crick
http://www.nobel.se/medicine/laureates/1962/crick-bio.html
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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25 Jun 2004 12:59:07 PM |
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On Fri 25 Jun 2004 12:41:46p, Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> kicked back with
a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a joint, then
fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
No, he just expects our leaders to live under the conditions they impose
on others. If I haven't any right to privacy in my bedroom, why should
a congressman wannabe have such a right?
On the other hand, maybe we should ALL have a right to privacy in our
personal relationships.
Bingo.
I don't want to see his private sex life aired for all to see, and neither
do I want mine aired for all to see.
Please understand that I'm not necessarily defending him. I was more
attacking the idiotic statement by a judge that the public "deserves to
know" about his sex life. The public doesn't "deserve to know" *****. Now,
*he* may deserve to suffer that indignity, but again, the public doesn't
deserve *****. It's people who think the public "deserves to know" all the
juicy gossip who make it so that you and I can't have our privacy.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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25 Jun 2004 02:45:38 PM |
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Mekkala <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in
news:Xns9513855AF1B38Mekkala@199.45.49.11:
On Fri 25 Jun 2004 12:41:46p, Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> kicked back
with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a
joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
No, he just expects our leaders to live under the conditions they
impose on others. If I haven't any right to privacy in my bedroom,
why should a congressman wannabe have such a right?
On the other hand, maybe we should ALL have a right to privacy in our
personal relationships.
Bingo.
I don't want to see his private sex life aired for all to see, and
neither do I want mine aired for all to see.
Amen. :-)
Not that there's any difference between Enkidu's bedroom and some
Parisian swinger's club...
Please understand that I'm not necessarily defending him. I was more
attacking the idiotic statement by a judge that the public "deserves
to know" about his sex life. The public doesn't "deserve to know"
*****. Now, *he* may deserve to suffer that indignity, but again, the
public doesn't deserve *****. It's people who think the public
"deserves to know" all the juicy gossip who make it so that you and I
can't have our privacy.
And that's a two-way street. If you want your privacy, you can't go
around claiming that somebody else doesn't deserve his just because he's
a hypocrite.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: 7 of 9 performs sex acts at behest of Senate |
25 Jun 2004 03:07:06 PM |
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 19:45:38 GMT in alt.atheism, Fred Stone (Fred
Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Mekkala <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in
news:Xns9513855AF1B38Mekkala@199.45.49.11:
On Fri 25 Jun 2004 12:41:46p, Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> kicked back
with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a
joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
No, he just expects our leaders to live under the conditions they
impose on others. If I haven't any right to privacy in my bedroom,
why should a congressman wannabe have such a right?
On the other hand, maybe we should ALL have a right to privacy in our
personal relationships.
Bingo.
I don't want to see his private sex life aired for all to see, and
neither do I want mine aired for all to see.
Amen. :-)
Not that there's any difference between Enkidu's bedroom and some
Parisian swinger's club...
Ah. Enkidu must have one of these!
http://nawtythings.com/swing.html
[snip]
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
all posts to this email address are automatically deleted without being read.
** atheist poster child #1 ** #442.
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25 Jun 2004 04:12:29 PM |
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In article <1c1pd0hcshq38ehi4s7krbmkeriihkmscs@4ax.com>,
autodelete@city-of-dis.com says...
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 19:45:38 GMT in alt.atheism, Fred Stone (Fred
Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Mekkala <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in
news:Xns9513855AF1B38Mekkala@199.45.49.11:
On Fri 25 Jun 2004 12:41:46p, Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> kicked back
with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a
joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
No, he just expects our leaders to live under the conditions they
impose on others. If I haven't any right to privacy in my bedroom,
why should a congressman wannabe have such a right?
On the other hand, maybe we should ALL have a right to privacy in our
personal relationships.
Bingo.
I don't want to see his private sex life aired for all to see, and
neither do I want mine aired for all to see.
Amen. :-)
Not that there's any difference between Enkidu's bedroom and some
Parisian swinger's club...
Ah. Enkidu must have one of these!
http://nawtythings.com/swing.html
No. I'll have to check the attic. 2x4's 15 foot span. I think I'll
have to add a cross beam to spread the weight.
I wonder if I could hang it from the ceiling fan?
--
Enkidu - AA# 2165
"Today, the theory of evolution is an accepted fact for
everyone but a fundamentalist minority, whose objections
are based not on reasoning but on doctrinaire adherence
to religious principles"
James D. Watson
http://www.nobel.se/medicine/laureates/1962/watson-bio.html
"The Astonishing Hypothesis is that `You,' your joys and
your sorrows, your memories and your ambitions, your
sense of personal identity and free will, are in fact no
more than the behavior of a vast assembly of nerve cells
and their associated molecules."
Francis Crick
http://www.nobel.se/medicine/laureates/1962/crick-bio.html
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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25 Jun 2004 04:40:29 PM |
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 14:12:29 -0700 in alt.atheism, Enkidu (Enkidu
<enkidu@leaddogs.org>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
In article <1c1pd0hcshq38ehi4s7krbmkeriihkmscs@4ax.com>,
autodelete@city-of-dis.com says...
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 19:45:38 GMT in alt.atheism, Fred Stone (Fred
Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Mekkala <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in
news:Xns9513855AF1B38Mekkala@199.45.49.11:
On Fri 25 Jun 2004 12:41:46p, Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> kicked back
with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a
joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
No, he just expects our leaders to live under the conditions they
impose on others. If I haven't any right to privacy in my bedroom,
why should a congressman wannabe have such a right?
On the other hand, maybe we should ALL have a right to privacy in our
personal relationships.
Bingo.
I don't want to see his private sex life aired for all to see, and
neither do I want mine aired for all to see.
Amen. :-)
Not that there's any difference between Enkidu's bedroom and some
Parisian swinger's club...
Ah. Enkidu must have one of these!
http://nawtythings.com/swing.html
No. I'll have to check the attic. 2x4's 15 foot span. I think I'll
have to add a cross beam to spread the weight.
I wonder if I could hang it from the ceiling fan?
That'd save a lot of effort!
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: 7 of 9 performs sex acts at behest of Senate |
25 Jun 2004 04:57:57 PM |
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In article <lt6pd0dbs2u8uj6vlnakbei8akjre8ci3i@4ax.com>,
autodelete@city-of-dis.com says...
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 14:12:29 -0700 in alt.atheism, Enkidu (Enkidu
<enkidu@leaddogs.org>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
In article <1c1pd0hcshq38ehi4s7krbmkeriihkmscs@4ax.com>,
autodelete@city-of-dis.com says...
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 19:45:38 GMT in alt.atheism, Fred Stone (Fred
Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Mekkala <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in
news:Xns9513855AF1B38Mekkala@199.45.49.11:
On Fri 25 Jun 2004 12:41:46p, Enkidu <enkidu@leaddogs.org> kicked back
with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a
joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
No, he just expects our leaders to live under the conditions they
impose on others. If I haven't any right to privacy in my bedroom,
why should a congressman wannabe have such a right?
On the other hand, maybe we should ALL have a right to privacy in our
personal relationships.
Bingo.
I don't want to see his private sex life aired for all to see, and
neither do I want mine aired for all to see.
Amen. :-)
Not that there's any difference between Enkidu's bedroom and some
Parisian swinger's club...
Ah. Enkidu must have one of these!
http://nawtythings.com/swing.html
No. I'll have to check the attic. 2x4's 15 foot span. I think I'll
have to add a cross beam to spread the weight.
I wonder if I could hang it from the ceiling fan?
That'd save a lot of effort!
And add a new feature as well, though I tend to barf after spinning in
circles. Generally, women don't find being barfed on sexually
stimulating.
--
Enkidu - AA# 2165
"Today, the theory of evolution is an accepted fact for
everyone but a fundamentalist minority, whose objections
are based not on reasoning but on doctrinaire adherence
to religious principles"
James D. Watson
http://www.nobel.se/medicine/laureates/1962/watson-bio.html
"The Astonishing Hypothesis is that `You,' your joys and
your sorrows, your memories and your ambitions, your
sense of personal identity and free will, are in fact no
more than the behavior of a vast assembly of nerve cells
and their associated molecules."
Francis Crick
http://www.nobel.se/medicine/laureates/1962/crick-bio.html
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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25 Jun 2004 06:16:07 PM |
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:41:46 -0700 in episode
<MPG.1b4603b68ceb8acd989840@localhost> we saw our hero Enkidu
<enkidu@leaddogs.org>:
In article <Xns951385E29D451fstone69@207.69.154.203>, fstone69
@earthling.com says...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in
news:pan.2004.06.25.16.38.55.341895@hoo.com-amikchi:
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:15:21 +0000 in episode
<Xns95136995929CBMekkala@199.45.49.11> we saw our hero Mekkala
<joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com>:
On Wed 23 Jun 2004 05:19:35p, "Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi>
kicked back with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up,
lit up a joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting
out:
When a politician is ranting about *our business and wants to
legislate *our lives, what business does he have to scream about
*his privacy being invaded?
Mark, I suppose I just don't understand how a politician's sexual
practices are in any way relevant to how he does his job.
According to the right, we do *not* have a Constitutional right to
privacy.
If *I don't, neither does *he.
Thus Mark justifies his own double standard by some other guy's
hypocrisy.
No, he just expects our leaders to live under the conditions they impose
on others. If I haven't any right to privacy in my bedroom, why should a
congressman wannabe have such a right?
On the other hand, maybe we should ALL have a right to privacy in our
personal relationships.
Only then would his sex life be none of our business. But long as
politicians make the sex lives of citizens *their business, then the sex
lives of politicians are *our business.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"I think it's the worst kept secret in Washington.
That everybody - everybody I talk to in Washington
has known and fully knows what [the neo-conservative]
agenda was and what they were trying to do."
[Retired General Anthony Zinni]
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| User: "Carol Lee Smith" |
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23 Jun 2004 06:45:57 PM |
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
<snip>
When a politician is ranting about *our business and wants to legislate
*our lives, what business does he have to scream about *his privacy being
invaded?
http://www.janehaddam.com/chd/sex.html
" ... the real difference between liberals and conservatives in this
country is that conservatives think sex is very, very important and
liberals think sex is essentially trivial. ..."
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25 Jun 2004 05:51:17 PM |
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Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message news:<Pine.OSF.3.96.1040623184428.17695G-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu>...
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
<snip>
When a politician is ranting about *our business and wants to legislate
*our lives, what business does he have to scream about *his privacy being
invaded?
http://www.janehaddam.com/chd/sex.html
Thank you for introducing me to a new (for me) if nugatory (for the vast
majority) forum.
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