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"Budikka" |
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20 Aug 2004 10:58:41 PM |
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8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/19/communion.denied.ap/index.html
reveals that, "An 8-year-old girl who suffers from a rare digestive
disorder and cannot eat wheat has had her first Holy Communion
declared invalid because the wafer contained no wheat, violating Roman
Catholic doctrine."
So the very people who support this mythical Jesus character, who
himself supposedly said, "suffer little children to come unto me",
have rejected a child from a ***** farcical ceremony that has zero
meaning and zero validity.
How much more fucked-up can you get than the church?
Budikka
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21 Aug 2004 12:55:03 PM |
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"Budikka" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:e1e30450.0408201958.22a09e3b@posting.google.com...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/19/communion.denied.ap/index.html
reveals that, "An 8-year-old girl who suffers from a rare digestive
disorder and cannot eat wheat has had her first Holy Communion
declared invalid because the wafer contained no wheat, violating Roman
Catholic doctrine."
Another future atheist!
Another EAC victory at hand!!
Onward atheist comrades!! Total Global Domination is at hand!!!!
Raptor514
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| User: "sAnToLiNa" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
22 Aug 2004 12:08:14 AM |
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Budikka <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:e1e30450.0408201958.22a09e3b@posting.google.com...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/19/communion.denied.ap/index.html
reveals that, "An 8-year-old girl who suffers from a rare digestive
disorder and cannot eat wheat has had her first Holy Communion
declared invalid because the wafer contained no wheat, violating Roman
Catholic doctrine."
So the very people who support this mythical Jesus character, who
himself supposedly said, "suffer little children to come unto me",
have rejected a child from a ***** farcical ceremony that has zero
meaning and zero validity.
How much more fucked-up can you get than the church?
A parent who is determined to put their child through a "***** farcical
ceremony"?
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
22 Aug 2004 07:07:16 AM |
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 22:08:14 -0700, "sAnToLiNa" <mystery@babylon.com> wrote:
Budikka <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:e1e30450.0408201958.22a09e3b@posting.google.com...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/19/communion.denied.ap/index.html
reveals that, "An 8-year-old girl who suffers from a rare digestive
disorder and cannot eat wheat has had her first Holy Communion
declared invalid because the wafer contained no wheat, violating Roman
Catholic doctrine."
So the very people who support this mythical Jesus character, who
himself supposedly said, "suffer little children to come unto me",
have rejected a child from a ***** farcical ceremony that has zero
meaning and zero validity.
How much more fucked-up can you get than the church?
A parent who is determined to put their child through a "***** farcical
ceremony"?
You too will find out for sure one moment after you die. Best of luck.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Budikka" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
28 Aug 2004 08:59:14 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<h23hi0pgnl4ip19jm20ff6dam8g9l9i2at@4ax.com>...
You too will find out for sure one moment after you die.
More unsupported ***** from the Maestro of Unsupported *****.
Budikka
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
29 Aug 2004 11:16:44 AM |
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On 28 Aug 2004 18:59:14 -0700, (Budikka) wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<h23hi0pgnl4ip19jm20ff6dam8g9l9i2at@4ax.com>...
You too will find out for sure one moment after you die.
More unsupported ***** from the Maestro of Unsupported *****.
Forget "unsupported". You'll find out for sure one moment after you take your final
breath on this earth.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Budikka" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
29 Aug 2004 09:09:48 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<5a04j0di7a85h2kghclas7q77g7pt0klc2@4ax.com>...
Forget "unsupported". You'll find out for sure one moment
after you take your final breath on this earth.
More unsupported ***** from the Maestro of Unsupported *****.
Budikka
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| User: "Uncle Dollar Bill" |
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29 Aug 2004 12:42:36 AM |
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On 28 Aug 2004 18:59:14 -0700, Budikka wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<h23hi0pgnl4ip19jm20ff6dam8g9l9i2at@4ax.com>...
You too will find out for sure one moment after you die.
More unsupported ***** from the Maestro of Unsupported *****.
It's supported, you just have to wait until you die to see it. What's
_wrong_ with you, boy?
;-)
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| User: "duke" |
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29 Aug 2004 11:17:29 AM |
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:42:36 -0700, Uncle Dollar Bill <UncleDollarBill@SpamMeNot.com>
wrote:
On 28 Aug 2004 18:59:14 -0700, Budikka wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<h23hi0pgnl4ip19jm20ff6dam8g9l9i2at@4ax.com>...
You too will find out for sure one moment after you die.
More unsupported ***** from the Maestro of Unsupported *****.
It's supported, you just have to wait until you die to see it. What's
_wrong_ with you, boy?
Bud's a (gasp) female.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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21 Aug 2004 01:34:16 AM |
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On 20 Aug 2004 20:58:41 -0700, (Budikka) wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/19/communion.denied.ap/index.html
reveals that, "An 8-year-old girl who suffers from a rare digestive
disorder and cannot eat wheat has had her first Holy Communion
declared invalid because the wafer contained no wheat, violating Roman
Catholic doctrine."
So the very people who support this mythical Jesus character, who
himself supposedly said, "suffer little children to come unto me",
have rejected a child from a ***** farcical ceremony that has zero
meaning and zero validity.
How much more fucked-up can you get than the church?
How about this?
http://www.telegraaf.nl./binnenland/13172691/Bisdom_eist_geld_seksclaim.html
(translation)
The RCC church, bishopric Rotterdam is suing the insurance company
Aegon for not paying damages (under table settlements) to juveniles
sexually abused by church dignitaries.
There point (don't fall down laughing!!!): this is a professional
risk!!!!!
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| User: "Apostate" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
21 Aug 2004 12:32:21 PM |
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 13:34:16 +0700, Jos Flachs <|wcruise|@ksc15.th.com> wrote:
On 20 Aug 2004 20:58:41 -0700, (Budikka) wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/19/communion.denied.ap/index.html
reveals that, "An 8-year-old girl who suffers from a rare digestive
disorder and cannot eat wheat has had her first Holy Communion
declared invalid because the wafer contained no wheat, violating Roman
Catholic doctrine."
So the very people who support this mythical Jesus character, who
himself supposedly said, "suffer little children to come unto me",
have rejected a child from a ***** farcical ceremony that has zero
meaning and zero validity.
How much more fucked-up can you get than the church?
How about this?
http://www.telegraaf.nl./binnenland/13172691/Bisdom_eist_geld_seksclaim.html
(translation)
The RCC church, bishopric Rotterdam is suing the insurance company
Aegon for not paying damages (under table settlements) to juveniles
sexually abused by church dignitaries.
There point (don't fall down laughing!!!): this is a professional
risk!!!!!
The idea of professional malpractice/misfeasance/malfeasance insurance is pretty
well accepted by now, and I wouldn't have a problem with a claim of that sort. But iiuc,
the plaintiffs are trying to color the incident as a work-related ****accident****, which
must set a new record for straight-faced Philadelphia-lawyering. It's a wonder they
aren't frequent posters to a.a., flogging Pascal's Wager.
--
/Apostate
atheist #1931 I've found it!
BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer
EAC Supernumerary Deputy Director, Department of Redundancy Department
plonked by Lani_girl, first post; Billions Served!
I doubt, therefore I might be.
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| User: "nobody" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
22 Aug 2004 10:12:32 AM |
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On 20 Aug 2004 20:58:41 -0700, (Budikka) wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/19/communion.denied.ap/index.html
reveals that, "An 8-year-old girl who suffers from a rare digestive
disorder and cannot eat wheat has had her first Holy Communion
declared invalid because the wafer contained no wheat, violating Roman
Catholic doctrine."
So the very people who support this mythical Jesus character, who
himself supposedly said, "suffer little children to come unto me",
have rejected a child from a ***** farcical ceremony that has zero
meaning and zero validity.
How much more fucked-up can you get than the church?
Why is this relevant for atheists? The whole issue is between
Christians and even the "victimized" party isn't harboring any ill
feelings against the Church remotely comparable to your anger, it
seems.
Rules are rules. There are probably thousands of secular rules and
laws that I think are patently silly or unjust but just because they
do exist I won't claim that the government or the justice system is
fucked up. Your mock sympathy for the 8 year girl and her family is
rather repugnant. Are you out to defend her rights? When you in fact
regard their beliefs as mythical *****?
In case of religious rules, it's the business of the religious
community to make and change them as they deem fit. I don't think
there's anything relevant to atheists, unless, of course, you are on a
mission yourself and take this as an opportunity to insult the
religious and win brownie points in amongst your peers in alt.atheism.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
21 Aug 2004 06:03:18 AM |
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On 20 Aug 2004 20:58:41 -0700, (Budikka) wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/19/communion.denied.ap/index.html
reveals that, "An 8-year-old girl who suffers from a rare digestive
disorder and cannot eat wheat has had her first Holy Communion
declared invalid because the wafer contained no wheat, violating Roman
Catholic doctrine."
So the very people who support this mythical Jesus character, who
himself supposedly said, "suffer little children to come unto me",
have rejected a child from a ***** farcical ceremony that has zero
meaning and zero validity.
How much more fucked-up can you get than the church?
So that you know, we Catholics profess that the bread and wine fully become the substance
of the Body and Blood of Christ, just as Jesus taught us. It is mandatory, and has been
for 2000 years now, that the bread be unleavened wheat bread - no substitutes allowed.
And that precludes any and all other substances, including rice, poisons, etc, from being
consecrated into the Body of Christ. They are invalid. All Catholics should know that,
and certainly all priests do know that. If this little girl can't consume wheat, then the
Precious Blood is also fully the Body and Blood of Christ, and she can sip of that.
In the protest_ant churches, it is admittedly a symbolic gesture, and as such rice and the
like, including grape juice are acceptable, apparently.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "turk" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
21 Aug 2004 09:27:41 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:rhaei05e1gj6n9m3333ajm2mkrhu199sdh@4ax.com...
On 20 Aug 2004 20:58:41 -0700, (Budikka) wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/19/communion.denied.ap/index.html
reveals that, "An 8-year-old girl who suffers from a rare digestive
disorder and cannot eat wheat has had her first Holy Communion
declared invalid because the wafer contained no wheat, violating Roman
Catholic doctrine."
So the very people who support this mythical Jesus character, who
himself supposedly said, "suffer little children to come unto me",
have rejected a child from a ***** farcical ceremony that has zero
meaning and zero validity.
How much more fucked-up can you get than the church?
So that you know, we Catholics profess that the bread and wine fully
become the substance
of the Body and Blood of Christ, just as Jesus taught us. It is
mandatory, and has been
for 2000 years now, that the bread be unleavened wheat bread - no
substitutes allowed.
And that precludes any and all other substances, including rice, poisons,
etc, from being
consecrated into the Body of Christ. They are invalid. All Catholics
should know that,
and certainly all priests do know that. If this little girl can't consume
wheat, then the
Precious Blood is also fully the Body and Blood of Christ, and she can sip
of that.
Do you ever really listen to what you are saying? Might trigger a gag
reflex if you could examine your own beliefs dispassionately. You practice
symbolic cannibalism, you twisted *****. And I'll bet you teach it to your
children, provided you could find some fat sow with the same brain disorders
no one else would take that would consent to lie with you in that wholesome
missionary position and bare your genetically disadvantaged brood.
turk
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| User: "JTEM" |
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21 Aug 2004 11:34:00 PM |
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"turk" <turk96@attbi.com> wrote
Do you ever really listen to what you are saying? Might
trigger a gag reflex if you could examine your own beliefs
dispassionately. You practice symbolic cannibalism, you
twisted *****. And I'll bet you teach it to your children,
provided you could find some fat sow with the same brain
disorders no one else would take that would consent to lie
with you in that wholesome missionary position and bare
your genetically disadvantaged brood.
You're confused. This thread is for ATTACKING the Catholic
church for denying symbolic cannibalism to a child, not for
"pushing" an archaic practice on children.
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| User: "duke" |
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21 Aug 2004 01:26:11 PM |
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:27:41 GMT, "turk" <turk96@attbi.com> wrote:
Do you ever really listen to what you are saying? Might trigger a gag
reflex if you could examine your own beliefs dispassionately.
Of course I do. And every word is accurate.
Hey, if you don't believe, it's your funeral, not mine.
You practice
symbolic cannibalism, you twisted *****.
What an idiot you are. We consume only the consecrated bread and wine.
And I'll bet you teach it to your
children, provided you could find some fat sow with the same brain disorders
no one else would take that would consent to lie with you in that wholesome
missionary position and bare your genetically disadvantaged brood.
Many of the world's most beautiful women are Catholic.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Hypatia Kosh" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
25 Aug 2004 12:22:05 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<ap4fi05vqn677k2us0oo9ka6avd9aeu0gr@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:27:41 GMT, "turk" <turk96@attbi.com> wrote:
Do you ever really listen to what you are saying? Might trigger a gag
reflex if you could examine your own beliefs dispassionately.
Of course I do. And every word is accurate.
Hey, if you don't believe, it's your funeral, not mine.
You practice
symbolic cannibalism, you twisted *****.
What an idiot you are. We consume only the consecrated bread and wine.
And I'll bet you teach it to your
children, provided you could find some fat sow with the same brain disorders
no one else would take that would consent to lie with you in that wholesome
missionary position and bare your genetically disadvantaged brood.
Many of the world's most beautiful women are Catholic.
Who will never be dating *you*.
I feel sorry for straight women sometimes.
-Hy
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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25 Aug 2004 01:10:51 AM |
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Hypatia Kosh wrote:
Who will never be dating *you*.
I feel sorry for straight women sometimes.
I do volunteer work with gleaner and at 64 am one of the kids there.
I was at the rape crisis office a couple weeks ago to turn in a report and
announced that I had bad news.
It never goes away.
Many of the men 10 - 15 years my senior still paw and kiss the women without
permission.
These same men don't listen. He asked three women today for something he
wanted and each told him we did not have it. Then he asked me and I gave the
same answer and he was satisfied.
Men!
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| User: "duke" |
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26 Aug 2004 04:39:36 AM |
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On 24 Aug 2004 22:22:05 -0700, (Hypatia Kosh) wrote:
Many of the world's most beautiful women are Catholic.
Who will never be dating *you*.
Now there's an empty kiddie comment if I've every seen one.
I feel sorry for straight women sometimes.
Why? They're all natural.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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02 Sep 2004 11:02:14 AM |
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duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
yeah, i once read there's place for 144.000 people in god's candystore.
seems to be in the bible somewhere, or they dug it up in that desert the
bible comes from. or the self-appointed holy writ rapists made this up
aswell, like the rest of the fairy.
now, considering the fact that there's billions of people alive today, and
there's even more in the cemeteries and yet unborn,
what makes you think you will get one of those 144.000 tickets?
are you really that arrogant you consider yourself a chosen one to such a
degree?
christ, i can't understand why i even bother to write this *****. answering
to some religious rant, i must be as stupid as you are.
if i were god, i'd give u an express ticket to hell.
your capital offense?
your extreme s.t.u.p.i.d.i.t.y. and utter mental weakness.
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| User: "Sverker Johansson" |
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25 Aug 2004 08:48:21 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<ap4fi05vqn677k2us0oo9ka6avd9aeu0gr@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:27:41 GMT, "turk" <turk96@attbi.com> wrote:
Do you ever really listen to what you are saying? Might trigger a gag
reflex if you could examine your own beliefs dispassionately.
Of course I do. And every word is accurate.
Hey, if you don't believe, it's your funeral, not mine.
You practice
symbolic cannibalism, you twisted *****.
What an idiot you are. We consume only the consecrated bread and wine.
Earlier in this thread you said:
So that you know, we Catholics profess that the bread and wine
fully become the substance
of the Body and Blood of Christ, just as Jesus taught us. It is
mandatory, and has been
Why don't you make up your mind?
Has the bread really turned into Jesus flesh -- if so, it's
cannibalism.
Or is the bread still just bread -- then why all the "Body-of-Christ"
mumbo-jumbo?
Or maybe that's why the kid isn't allowed to eat it -- her allergic
reaction would be proof positive that the bread is still bread,
despite the hocus-pocus.
And I'll bet you teach it to your
children, provided you could find some fat sow with the same brain disorders
no one else would take that would consent to lie with you in that wholesome
missionary position and bare your genetically disadvantaged brood.
Many of the world's most beautiful women are Catholic.
I know, I married one. Smart and beautiful Catholic women
seek mates who aren't suffering from delusions and cannibalistic
fantasies.
Best regards,
Sverker Johansson
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"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy,
education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would
indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of
punishment and hope of reward after death." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "duke" |
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26 Aug 2004 04:48:44 AM |
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On 25 Aug 2004 06:48:21 -0700, (Sverker Johansson) wrote:
You practice
symbolic cannibalism, you twisted *****.
What an idiot you are. We consume only the consecrated bread and wine.
Earlier in this thread you said:
So that you know, we Catholics profess that the bread and wine
fully become the substance
of the Body and Blood of Christ, just as Jesus taught us. It is
mandatory, and has been
Why don't you make up your mind?
I do - you don't understand.
Has the bread really turned into Jesus flesh -- if so, it's
cannibalism.
Or is the bread still just bread -- then why all the "Body-of-Christ"
mumbo-jumbo?
Well, I see you need a little help here. The *substances of bread and wine become the
*substances of the Body and Blood of Christ all the while remaining under the visual,
texture, and taste of the substances of bread and wine.
Or maybe that's why the kid isn't allowed to eat it -- her allergic
reaction would be proof positive that the bread is still bread,
despite the hocus-pocus.
Who denied her Holy Communion? Only unleavened wheat bread can be consecrated. And she
could always take from the Cup. You atheists are getting all confused.
I know, I married one. Smart and beautiful Catholic women
seek mates who aren't suffering from delusions and cannibalistic
fantasies.
I gather she set aside your shortcomings.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Sverker Johansson" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
30 Aug 2004 01:27:36 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<n9cri0t6bhe8hodhvrvn2qc3c86puofjpi@4ax.com>...
On 25 Aug 2004 06:48:21 -0700, (Sverker Johansson) wrote:
You practice
symbolic cannibalism, you twisted *****.
What an idiot you are. We consume only the consecrated bread and wine.
Earlier in this thread you said:
So that you know, we Catholics profess that the bread and wine
fully become the substance
of the Body and Blood of Christ, just as Jesus taught us. It is
mandatory, and has been
Why don't you make up your mind?
I do - you don't understand.
Has the bread really turned into Jesus flesh -- if so, it's
cannibalism.
Or is the bread still just bread -- then why all the "Body-of-Christ"
mumbo-jumbo?
Well, I see you need a little help here. The *substances of bread and wine become the
*substances of the Body and Blood of Christ all the while remaining under the visual,
texture, and taste of the substances of bread and wine.
I am well aware of the standard excuse the church uses.
A transparent attempt to make the mumbo-jumbo unfalsifiable.
In any case, if the stuff becomes "Substance of Jesus (tm)" while
still retaining the allergenic properties of wheat bread,
then it's _both_ cannibalism and still just bread.
No obvious improvement.
Or maybe that's why the kid isn't allowed to eat it -- her allergic
reaction would be proof positive that the bread is still bread,
despite the hocus-pocus.
Who denied her Holy Communion? Only unleavened wheat bread can be consecrated. And she
could always take from the Cup. You atheists are getting all confused.
Not confused. We understand perfectly well that your
position is both immoral and incoherent.
I know, I married one. Smart and beautiful Catholic women
seek mates who aren't suffering from delusions and cannibalistic
fantasies.
I gather she set aside your shortcomings.
She doesn't regard my desire to eat certain parts of her as
a shortcoming. More fun for all parties involved than
eating magically transformed wheat crackers.
Best regards, HLK, Physics
Sverker Johansson U of Jonkoping
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WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
ATHEISM IS RELIGION
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH - adapted from
CREATIONISM IS SCIENCE George Orwell
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
30 Aug 2004 07:13:36 PM |
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Sverker Johansson wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:<n9cri0t6bhe8hodhvrvn2qc3c86puofjpi@4ax.com>...
Well, I see you need a little help here. The *substances of bread
and wine become the *substances of the Body and Blood of Christ all
the while remaining under the visual, texture, and taste of the
substances of bread and wine.
I am well aware of the standard excuse the church uses.
A transparent attempt to make the mumbo-jumbo unfalsifiable.
It is but Earl is using what the nuns taught him rather than what the church
actually teaches about this and a few other things.
Earl ignores this in his attempt to tell us what he believes.
<snip>
Who denied her Holy Communion? Only unleavened wheat bread can be
consecrated. And she could always take from the Cup. You atheists
are getting all confused.
At least one news source says that some parishes use a rice substitute and
the initial report has a fairly low management position holding that it can
only be wheat.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
26 Aug 2004 04:14:27 PM |
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duke wrote:
On 25 Aug 2004 06:48:21 -0700, (Sverker Johansson)
wrote:
You practice
symbolic cannibalism, you twisted *****.
What an idiot you are. We consume only the consecrated bread and
wine.
Earlier in this thread you said:
So that you know, we Catholics profess that the bread and wine
fully become the substance
of the Body and Blood of Christ, just as Jesus taught us. It is
mandatory, and has been
Why don't you make up your mind?
I do - you don't understand.
Has the bread really turned into Jesus flesh -- if so, it's
cannibalism.
Or is the bread still just bread -- then why all the "Body-of-Christ"
mumbo-jumbo?
Well, I see you need a little help here. The *substances of bread
and wine become the *substances of the Body and Blood of Christ all
the while remaining under the visual, texture, and taste of the
substances of bread and wine.
It's amusing to see Earl try to "explain" this to you by giveing the rote
information he learned from the nuns.
He left out a key phrase which, while not making it any more plausible, is a
key element in the RCC religion. One that Kiregard would understand.
If Earl had any real knowledge of the church he would state that phrase
here.
Instead he will challange me to do it.
I will after his challange.
The he will either ignore it or claim it was "implied"
Or maybe that's why the kid isn't allowed to eat it -- her allergic
reaction would be proof positive that the bread is still bread,
despite the hocus-pocus.
Who denied her Holy Communion? Only unleavened wheat bread can be
consecrated. And she could always take from the Cup. You atheists
are getting all confused.
We don't get confused when you say that up is up and down at the same time.
We know you are wrong.
We also know you don't seem to acknowledge what the church says about such
things.
I know, I married one. Smart and beautiful Catholic women
seek mates who aren't suffering from delusions and cannibalistic
fantasies.
I gather she set aside your shortcomings.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Lee Dimas" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
22 Aug 2004 10:40:22 AM |
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In article <rhaei05e1gj6n9m3333ajm2mkrhu199sdh@4ax.com>,
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
So that you know, we Catholics profess that the bread and wine fully become
the substance
of the Body and Blood of Christ, just as Jesus taught us. It is mandatory,
and has been
for 2000 years now, that the bread be unleavened wheat bread - no substitutes
allowed.
So, only wheat can become the body of Christ? Not rice, not maize, with
no yeast, etc? That is one weak-***** deity you have there...
Lee Dimas
aa#11101111001
Surely you can figure out my address.
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
23 Aug 2004 12:09:19 AM |
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:40:22 -0600, Lee Dimas <lddiimmaass@qwest.net>
wrote:
In article <rhaei05e1gj6n9m3333ajm2mkrhu199sdh@4ax.com>,
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
So that you know, we Catholics profess that the bread and wine fully become
the substance
of the Body and Blood of Christ, just as Jesus taught us. It is mandatory,
and has been
for 2000 years now, that the bread be unleavened wheat bread - no substitutes
allowed.
So, only wheat can become the body of Christ? Not rice, not maize, with
no yeast, etc? That is one weak-***** deity you have there...
I always thought the body of christ could be found in hemp leaves...
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
21 Aug 2004 11:00:54 AM |
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 06:03:18 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On 20 Aug 2004 20:58:41 -0700, (Budikka) wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/19/communion.denied.ap/index.html
reveals that, "An 8-year-old girl who suffers from a rare digestive
disorder and cannot eat wheat has had her first Holy Communion
declared invalid because the wafer contained no wheat, violating Roman
Catholic doctrine."
So the very people who support this mythical Jesus character, who
himself supposedly said, "suffer little children to come unto me",
have rejected a child from a ***** farcical ceremony that has zero
meaning and zero validity.
How much more fucked-up can you get than the church?
So that you know, we Catholics profess that the bread and wine fully become the substance
of the Body and Blood of Christ, just as Jesus taught us. It is mandatory, and has been
for 2000 years now, that the bread be unleavened wheat bread - no substitutes allowed.
And that precludes any and all other substances, including rice, poisons, etc, from being
consecrated into the Body of Christ. They are invalid. All Catholics should know that,
and certainly all priests do know that. If this little girl can't consume wheat, then the
Precious Blood is also fully the Body and Blood of Christ, and she can sip of that.
So, why would god make a child so "defective" that she can't fully
participate in such an important ceremony. Why does the church think
so little of their god that they don't believe that he can change rice
wafers into his "body" for a sick little girl that he made.
WWJD? If one of his apostles was similarly afflicted at the last
supper, would he have singled him out and excluded him from his "going
away party?" Or would he have sought to include all? Was the bread
more important, or was it the fellowship? (This is rhetorical, just
think about it.)
For an entity that we mere humans can't begin to comprehend, the
humans in the catholic church sure spend alot of time telling their
sheep what god will and won't allow. Sure unleavened wheat wafers are
traditional now, because the rcc made it traditional, therefore they
should be able to change their, not god's, tradition. After all, I
doubt that jesus passed out little disks of bread with crucifixes
pressed into them. That's the church's tradition, not god's.
In the protest_ant churches, it is admittedly a symbolic gesture, and as such rice and the
like, including grape juice are acceptable, apparently.
duke
--
zamboni
#2139
Denigrator of Theists
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
21 Aug 2004 11:37:28 PM |
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<zamboni30000@knowshpamatyahoo.com> wrote
So, why would god make a child so "defective" that she
can't fully participate in such an important ceremony.
You know, I was raised a Catholic and went through all the
"first communion" stuff myself, yet I can't make myself lose
a single moment of sleep over this no matter how I try.
So it's an archaic, fucked up practice that makes not a lick
of sense. This is supposed to be different from any other
religious practice... HOW?
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
22 Aug 2004 12:19:49 AM |
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JTEM wrote:
<zamboni30000@knowshpamatyahoo.com> wrote
So, why would god make a child so "defective" that she
can't fully participate in such an important ceremony.
You know, I was raised a Catholic and went through all the
"first communion" stuff myself, yet I can't make myself lose
a single moment of sleep over this no matter how I try.
So it's an archaic, fucked up practice that makes not a lick
of sense. This is supposed to be different from any other
religious practice... HOW?
Mommy, mommy I don't *like* baby brother!
Well, OK, but eat everything else on your plate...
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: 8 Yr Old Girl Denied Communion |
22 Aug 2004 08:52:33 AM |
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 11:00:54 -0500 in episode
<mhqei0pvs3cdb223l7ic4200u71pbog8n7@4ax.com> we saw:
<piggybacking>
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 06:03:18 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
So that you know, we Catholics profess that the bread and wine fully
become the substance of the Body and Blood of Christ, just as Jesus
taught us. It is mandatory, and has been for 2000 years now, that the
bread be unleavened wheat bread - no substitutes allowed. And that
precludes any and all other substances, including rice, poisons, etc,
from being consecrated into the Body of Christ. They are invalid. All
Catholics should know that, and certainly all priests do know that. If
this little girl can't consume wheat, then the Precious Blood is also
fully the Body and Blood of Christ, and she can sip of that.
CATHOLICS ARE VAMPIRES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RUN AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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