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__ $660,000,000.00 settlement for Child Rapes by Catholic Pedophile Priests <= in just ONE CITY !! __ |
Judge OKs $660M Clergy Abuse Settlement
Associated Press/July 17, 2007
By Gillian Flaccus
Los Angeles -- Sobs and a moment of silence for those who died during years of
negotiations punctuated a Monday hearing at which a judge accepted a $660
million settlement between the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles and
alleged victims of clergy sex abuse.
"This is the right result," said Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Haley
Fromholz.
The settlement is by far the largest payout by any diocese since the clergy
abuse scandal emerged in Boston in 2002. Individual payouts, to be made by Dec.
1, will vary according to the severity of each case.
Cardinal Roger Mahony, whose archdiocese counts 4.3 million Catholics, sat
through the hearing but did not speak. He issued an apology Sunday after the
settlement was announced and said Monday in a statement that he would spend the
rest of the day praying for those who claimed abuse.
Ray Boucher, the lead plaintiffs' attorney, asked his clients to stand during
the hearing and thanked them for their resolve and their courage, before
breaking down in tears.
"It's their courage and commitment that made this possible, and I think they
deserve a tremendous debt of gratitude," he said.
"I know it's hard for most of the victims whose scars are very deep ... and I
know many will never forgive the cardinal," he said. "But he took steps that I
think that only he could take, and if left to the lawyers and others in the
church, he would not have settled this case."
The attorney for the archdiocese, Michael Hennigan, also appeared emotional as
he told the court that his views of clergy sexual abuse changed dramatically
during the years he spent trying to hammer out an agreement. He said private
meetings with 70 of the plaintiffs made the most impact.
"It changed us all, and it changed our perspective on what's happened here," he
said.
"I'd like to say that the church would have been reformed without these cases,
but I don't know that's true," he said. "These cases have forever reformed the
Archdiocese of Los Angeles. It will never be the same."
Mahony made several trips to Rome in recent weeks to get the Vatican's support
for the settlement, Hennigan said.
District Attorney Steve Cooley said in a statement that there could still be a
criminal case, despite a U.S. Supreme Court ruling on statutes of limitations in
molestation cases.
"We are aware there could be records that may become available to us as a result
of today's settlement. If these documents reveal evidence of criminal activity
on behalf of individual priests or anyone else, we will pursue them," Cooley
said. "The book is not closed on our investigation."
Dozens of people who have alleged abuse gathered outside the courthouse to talk
about the settlement.
Mary Ferrell said she was abused for two years beginning in 1956 by a priest in
San Pedro. Ferrell said she never imagined she would be talking about it in a
public square.
"When I was 7, I didn't tell anyone," she said. "I didn't know what he'd done to
me, and I didn't have the terms. I was totally alone, and I carried it with me
for all these years."
Because of the abuse, Ferrell said, she has spent a lifetime battling with
alcoholism and drug abuse.
"I isolate myself because it's the only place I feel safe. Having met all these
other victims, it's like they're my brothers and sisters," she said.
Esther Miller, 48, said she was repeatedly sexually abused as a teenager by a
deacon in Van Nuys. The deacon, who was later defrocked, would sing Gregorian
chants and make her wear a scapular while he molested her, she said.
Because of the abuse, Miller said, she has lost 19 jobs and been divorced three
times. She currently does not work and has problems controlling her anger, she
said.
"This settlement means I was telling the truth, I was telling my truth. It was
not an allegation," Miller said, crying. "I'm going to show the world."
Mahony said Sunday that the settlement will not have an impact on the
archdiocese's core ministry, but that the church will have to sell buildings,
use some of its invested funds and borrow money. The archdiocese will not sell
parish properties or schools, he said.
The deal settles all 508 cases that remained against the archdiocese, which also
paid $60 million in December to settle 45 cases that weren't covered by sexual
abuse insurance.
The archdiocese, the nation's largest, will pay $250 million, insurance carriers
will pay a combined $227 million and several religious orders will chip in $60
million.
The remaining $123 million will come from litigation with religious orders that
chose not to participate in the deal, with the archdiocese guaranteeing
resolution of those 80 to 100 cases within five years, Hennigan said. The
archdiocese is released from liability in those claims, said Tod Tamberg, church
spokesman.
Plaintiffs' attorneys can expect to receive up to 40 percent of the settlement
money _ or $264 million.
The settlements push the total amount paid out by the U.S. church since 1950 to
more than $2 billion.
Previously, the Los Angeles archdiocese, its insurers and various Roman Catholic
orders had paid more than $114 million to settle 86 claims. Several religious
orders in California have also reached multimillion-dollar settlements in recent
months, including the Carmelites, the Franciscans and the Jesuits.
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| User: "•R L Measures" |
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18 Aug 2007 06:34:15 AM |
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In article <5inmeaF3qe18qU1@mid.individual.net>, "¥ UltraMan ¥"
<ultra@man.jp> wrote:
Judge OKs $660M Clergy Abuse Settlement
Associated Press/July 17, 2007
By Gillian Flaccus
Los Angeles -- Sobs and a moment of silence for those who died during
years of
negotiations punctuated a Monday hearing at which a judge accepted a $660
million settlement between the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles and
alleged victims of clergy sex abuse.
"This is the right result," said Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge
Haley
Fromholz.
The settlement is by far the largest payout by any diocese since the clergy
abuse scandal emerged in Boston in 2002. Individual payouts, to be made
by Dec.
1, will vary according to the severity of each case.
Cardinal Roger Mahony, whose archdiocese counts 4.3 million Catholics, sat
through the hearing but did not speak. He issued an apology Sunday after the
settlement was announced and said Monday in a statement that he would
spend the
rest of the day praying for those who claimed abuse.
• Crocodile tears. For years, Roger Mahony shuffled c. 185 pedophile
priests from parish to parish in the archdiocese in order for them to
escape justice. The total of the altar-boy settlements for the
Archdiocese of Los Angeles was c. $770M, or about $1.3M per buttrammed
boy.
"The devil never harmed the church so much as when the church herself
adopted the vow of celibacy."
- - Peter Comestor (DOB ?, died c, AD1178 in Paris).
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: __ $660,000,000.00 settlement for Child Rapes by Catholic Pedophile Priests <= in just ONE CITY !! __ |
18 Aug 2007 03:47:23 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:46:15 -0600, "¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra@man.jp>
wrote:
Los Angeles -- Sobs and a moment of silence for those who died during years of
negotiations punctuated a Monday hearing at which a judge accepted a $660
million settlement between the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles and
alleged victims of clergy sex abuse.
Should have been $666 million - they deserve a little insult with
their injury.
"I'd like to say that the church would have been reformed without these cases
If it's not reformed even with the cases (and it's not), how would it
have reformed without them?
The settlements push the total amount paid out by the U.S. church since 1950 to
more than $2 billion.
Which is a very tiny percentage of the Church's worth.
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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| Title: Re: __ $660,000,000.00 settlement for Child Rapes by Catholic Pedophile Priests <= in just ONE CITY !! __ |
23 Aug 2007 06:44:52 PM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:dhmec39bea5199224vcossi5r5ebhj6hue@4ax.com:
Los Angeles -- Sobs and a moment of silence for those who died
during years of negotiations punctuated a Monday hearing at which
a judge accepted a $660 million settlement between the Roman
Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles and alleged victims of clergy
sex abuse.
Should have been $666 million - they deserve a little insult with
their injury.
<...>
<smile>
(Actually, I'm testing if the crossposting problems to
alt.religion.christian have been solved.)
Lisbeth.
----
The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "•R L Measures" |
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| Title: Re: __ $660,000,000.00 settlement for Child Rapes by Catholic Pedophile Priests <= in just ONE CITY !! __ |
18 Aug 2007 04:32:26 PM |
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In article <dhmec39bea5199224vcossi5r5ebhj6hue@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:46:15 -0600, "¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra@man.jp>
wrote:
Los Angeles -- Sobs and a moment of silence for those who died during
years of
negotiations punctuated a Monday hearing at which a judge accepted a $660
million settlement between the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles and
alleged victims of clergy sex abuse.
Should have been $666 million - they deserve a little insult with
their injury.
"I'd like to say that the church would have been reformed without these cases
If it's not reformed even with the cases (and it's not), how would it
have reformed without them?
The settlements push the total amount paid out by the U.S. church since
1950 to
more than $2 billion.
Which is a very tiny percentage of the Church's worth.
• roughly 0.1%, and my guess is that altar-boys are getting buttrammed
this afternoon.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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18 Aug 2007 08:00:04 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:32:26 -0700, (•R L Measures) wrote:
In article <dhmec39bea5199224vcossi5r5ebhj6hue@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:46:15 -0600, "¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra@man.jp>
wrote:
Los Angeles -- Sobs and a moment of silence for those who died during
years of
negotiations punctuated a Monday hearing at which a judge accepted a $660
million settlement between the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles and
alleged victims of clergy sex abuse.
Should have been $666 million - they deserve a little insult with
their injury.
"I'd like to say that the church would have been reformed without these cases
If it's not reformed even with the cases (and it's not), how would it
have reformed without them?
The settlements push the total amount paid out by the U.S. church since
1950 to
more than $2 billion.
Which is a very tiny percentage of the Church's worth.
• roughly 0.1%, and my guess is that altar-boys are getting buttrammed
this afternoon.
"Why is this afternoon different from any other afternoon?", to quote
a different religion.
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| User: "•R L Measures" |
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| Title: Re: __ $660,000,000.00 settlement for Child Rapes by Catholic Pedophile Priests <= in just ONE CITY !! __ |
19 Aug 2007 02:31:07 AM |
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In article <7f5fc3dn1snt6tpf16j905sv3qg7insarf@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:32:26 -0700, (•R L Measures) wrote:
In article <dhmec39bea5199224vcossi5r5ebhj6hue@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:46:15 -0600, "¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra@man.jp>
wrote:
Los Angeles -- Sobs and a moment of silence for those who died during
years of
negotiations punctuated a Monday hearing at which a judge accepted a $660
million settlement between the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los
Angeles and
alleged victims of clergy sex abuse.
Should have been $666 million - they deserve a little insult with
their injury.
"I'd like to say that the church would have been reformed without
these cases
If it's not reformed even with the cases (and it's not), how would it
have reformed without them?
The settlements push the total amount paid out by the U.S. church since
1950 to
more than $2 billion.
Which is a very tiny percentage of the Church's worth.
• roughly 0.1%, and my guess is that altar-boys are getting buttrammed
this afternoon.
"Why is this afternoon different from any other afternoon?",
• It's probably not. Stopping a 900-yr old Tradition in less than a
generation is unlikely.
to quote
a different religion.
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| User: "_ Prof. Jonez _" |
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19 Aug 2007 03:05:42 PM |
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..R L Measures wrote:
In article <7f5fc3dn1snt6tpf16j905sv3qg7insarf@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:32:26 -0700, (.R L Measures)
wrote:
In article <dhmec39bea5199224vcossi5r5ebhj6hue@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:46:15 -0600, "¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra@man.jp>
wrote:
Los Angeles -- Sobs and a moment of silence for those who died
during years of negotiations punctuated a Monday hearing at which
a judge accepted a $660 million settlement between the Roman
Catholic Archdiocese of Los
Angeles and
alleged victims of clergy sex abuse.
Should have been $666 million - they deserve a little insult with
their injury.
"I'd like to say that the church would have been reformed without
these cases
If it's not reformed even with the cases (and it's not), how would
it have reformed without them?
The settlements push the total amount paid out by the U.S. church
since 1950 to more than $2 billion.
Which is a very tiny percentage of the Church's worth.
. roughly 0.1%, and my guess is that altar-boys are getting
buttrammed this afternoon.
"Why is this afternoon different from any other afternoon?",
. It's probably not. Stopping a 900-yr old Tradition in less than a
generation is unlikely.
and stopping it before dinner would require a "miracle" ...
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19 Aug 2007 07:28:39 PM |
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In article <5irm4oF3pspr2U1@mid.individual.net>, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
<theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
.R L Measures wrote:
In article <7f5fc3dn1snt6tpf16j905sv3qg7insarf@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:32:26 -0700, (.R L Measures)
wrote:
In article <dhmec39bea5199224vcossi5r5ebhj6hue@4ax.com>, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:46:15 -0600, "¥ UltraMan ¥" <ultra@man.jp>
wrote:
Los Angeles -- Sobs and a moment of silence for those who died
during years of negotiations punctuated a Monday hearing at which
a judge accepted a $660 million settlement between the Roman
Catholic Archdiocese of Los
Angeles and
alleged victims of clergy sex abuse.
Should have been $666 million - they deserve a little insult with
their injury.
"I'd like to say that the church would have been reformed without
these cases
If it's not reformed even with the cases (and it's not), how would
it have reformed without them?
The settlements push the total amount paid out by the U.S. church
since 1950 to more than $2 billion.
Which is a very tiny percentage of the Church's worth.
. roughly 0.1%, and my guess is that altar-boys are getting
buttrammed this afternoon.
"Why is this afternoon different from any other afternoon?",
. It's probably not. Stopping a 900-yr old Tradition in less than a
generation is unlikely.
and stopping it before dinner would require a "miracle" ...
** the chance of finding snoballs in Hell.
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