Gary Kendrick wrote:

"_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:

Gary wrote:

Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:

"Gary Kendrick" <gbrk@charter.net> wrote in message

Being a Christian and an Ordained Minister I cannot condone the
actions of other Christians or even attempt to explain them. Just
rest assured that the majority of Christians are patriotic

What does "patriotic" mean, exactly?

By Patriotic I mean someone who proudly supports or defends his or
her country

You mean like the Iraqi Resistance, eh?

and it's way of life including our constitution.

God fearing

Why do you fear god? Why would you worship a "god" that causes you
to be afraid
?

Fear as in the definition "awe or reverence especially toward God"

Where is "FEAR" defined in such a perverted peculiar manner?

Fear is NOT in the way you interpreted it's use.

So you superstitious fools are once again simply inventing
meanings, eh?

There are other meanings for the word fear other than that which
you applied to
my
use of it.

If you say so.

There are other meanings for the word "god" too, some refer to their
morning crap in the toilet as "god".

I'm using to imply respect and reverence toward God not
being afraid yet fear in that context is also not bad for we should
Fear God who has control over our eternal destiny and condition

So you *are* using FEAR in the common meaning.

Can't you lying xtians even keep your lies straight in the same
paragraph ? How daft are you?

but
where we have Scriptures that tell us what we can do to please God
there is no reason for that type of fear any longer, at least not to
the believer.

God wants you to suck my ***** ... that would please him.

and would never approve
of what the Westboro Church is doing under God's name.

Well, when 2 nutjobs are both arguing about which one of their
imaginary sky-pixies is the "real" sky-pixie, the rest of us just
laugh at the show.

Remember that for many years the Ku Klux Klan and many other
groups, even today, disguise their misguided agendas behind the
scriptures

Do "the scriptures" not condone and support Slavery?
Do "the scriptures" not condone and support maintaining Racial
Purity?

People, throughout history, have used the scriptures to justify
whatever position they desired whether or not the scriptures support
that or not.

So which of the liars and charlatans shall we believe?

The Scriptures do refer to Slaves in Egypt or masters owning slaves
but the message of the Gospel is that we (Man) does not have to be a
slave to Sin which we are all.

You're stammering like a retard again.

We can be Free through faith in Christ Jesus.

Why would you need "faith" if JC really existed?

I do not feel that Slavery of any person is approved

No one gives a ***** what you "feel".

of but I feel God wants us to be Free but first of all Free from Sin
and Free from the Law.

You're a blasphemous heretic. You scriptures are very clear
about Slavery. Your soul is in danger of eternal hellfire for
such apostasy.

As far as racial Purity, no I don't believe the Bible condones or
promotes that

You're going to burn in hellfire for not believing the Bible exactly
as written, word for literal word, by the INERRANT hand of god.

other than to say that Jews are advised to marry Jews
and Christians are advised to marry Christians for the benefit of
Spiritual purity NOT racial purity. The concern is to maintain the
relationship between man and God and not defile that.

***** your god, and ***** what it stands for.

Any questions?

and try and
justify them by convincing themselves and their followers that God
is behind their actions and approves of them. Racism is another
evil

That your god created, endorsed and supported via the scriptures.

WRONG! You could not be more wrong.

Sure I could.

God, as we should, looks upon
people from a Spiritual sense that has no sex,

*****!

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not
engaged,
he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must
marry the young
woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to
divorce her.

Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and
has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of
the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not
cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he
violated his neighbors wife.

2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB

Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own
house.
I will take your wives (plural) while you live to see it, and will
give them to
your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You
have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the
presence of all Israel,
and with the sun looking down.'

Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord."
Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin:
you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by
this deed, the child born to you must surely die." (The child dies
seven days later.)

Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NLT

Suppose you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God
hands them over to you and you take captives. And suppose you see
among the captives a beautiful woman, and you are attracted to her
and
want to marry her. If this happens, you may take her to your home,
where she must shave her head, cut her fingernails, and change all
her clothes. Then she must remain in your home for a full month,
mourning for her father and mother. After that you may marry her.
But if you marry her and then decide you do not like her, you must
let her go free. You may not sell her or treat her as a slave,
for you have humiliated her.

no color, no physical impairments but rather spirit/soul that is
contained within and lives
after death in separation from the physical body which dies and
returns to dust or decay.

that many people hide behind religion, both black and white.

So what about homophobia?

For a believer or Christian to oppose Sin is not wrong.

So you oppose ALL the sins in the Holey Baable?

Just as sex between people of different sexes is at times sinful
depending upon
what is done so sex between like sexes is wrong according to the
scriptures.

***** your scriptures, and ***** what they stand for.

Any questions?

Doesn't matter if you desire it to be otherwise if
that's what you want to do the scriptures speak for themselves.

***** your scriptures, and ***** what they stand for.

Any questions?

All of us sin and all of us fail so whatever sins we commit still
places
us in the same position with respect to God. Wrongly choosing
though
to condemn people or as you say be Homophobic is not condoned or
approved of. We are to hate the sin not the sinner and that applies
to heterosexual sins just as much as it does homosexual but be not
deceived the Bible definitely calls sex between like sexes
detestable
and a sin (Romans 1:26 & 27 among others).

Focus on your own damn family, sinner.

To be prejudice though
and discriminate based on peoples actions though is not Biblical
just
as racial prejudice and discrimination is sinful and against the
Will
of God and not living in Love.

The purpose of my reply on this topic was not to enter a debate
about atheism vs. theism or what the Bible says about this topic or
my interpretation on the subject of homosexuality.

Of course not, because your unmittigated ***** doesn't last
one second subject to open debate.

My purpose was to
simply say that,

No one gives a ***** about your perverted, grotesque superstitious
opinion.

Pastor Gary's Opinion
An Independent Minister of Jesus Christ

***** you Pastor Gary, ***** your religion, ***** your god, and
***** what it stands for ...

... and ***** the virgin Mary too ... god did !

One only has to look at the wording and usage of the language within
your responses to know it is fruitless to attempt to have a rational
discussion with you. Believe as you will for one day you will answer
for the very words and blasphemies that you write and say. It serves
me no good to attempt to debate you and your insults only prove my
point you don't have any desire to debate or even put forth an
argument you only seek to destroy and curse anything and anyone you
can. It's interesting how you non-Christians so easily have to
debase yourselves so quickly by name calling and slandering those you
dislike or disagree with. How you Curse and use the most profane
language you can think of in an attempt to shock or cause disgust in
others. I care not what you think of me, anyone can see within your
replies that anger rules within your depraved heart and only filth
can proceed from it. May you one day find the Love of God through
Christ and the forgiveness we all need. I will pray that one day God
reveal Himself to you and quench that anger that rages within. If
there is any evidence of the Power of God it's that many Christians
were just as depraved and empty as you seem to be and yet God saw fit
to save them and change their hearts and they testify to that daily.

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You have the freedom to say what you wish, I have the freedom not to
read the trash that you write down, the filth and profanity and for
that reason this is the only reply you will get.
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I don't mind debating any topic but I will not condone or promote by
answering you when you cannot speak without bringing out the
debauchery from within your heart. Since you don't believe there is
a God you surely don't worry about His Judgment and I'm certainly no
better than you are for I am a sinner just the same as you and every
other human and deserve the same punishment that is set out for
sinners upon judgment day. I pray that before you breath your last
breath that your corrupted and wicked heart be turned to Jesus Christ
and you find Forgiveness for truly after death you will face an angry
and Judging God and maybe you can convince Him but your words will
fall silent for your spirit/soul will appear before God and your
writings and words will have no more use. Without Christ you will be
Judged by that which you have done and said for only through Jesus
Christ and His Shed Blood as a sacrifice for our sins can we sinners
escape the Judgment that is upon our sins.

As I said I will not respond again to someone who cannot speak or
write without such profanity that the depth of their hatred and anger
overflows through their writings. As Christ forgave those who
Crucified and beat him I so forgive you of your cursing against me
and as for Jesus Christ and God it is their judgment that we all will
ultimately face.

Find someone else to abuse for I'll have no part of it.

From Hell's heart I Stab at Thee;
For Hate's sake I Spit my last breath at Thee !


God hates Prof Jonez.