Religions > Atheism > __ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __
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16 Aug 2007 02:49:28 AM |
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__ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __ |
Ex-Barnstormer Injured As Batter Charges Mound Swinging Bat
POSTED: 3:25 pm EDT August 15, 2007
BRIDGEPORT, Conn. -- It was a wild night Tuesday in a minor league baseball game
in Bridgeport, Conn.
a.. IMAGES: See What Happened
http://www.wgal.com/slideshow/sports/13900815/detail.html
After hitting a home run in the first inning of the Atlantic League game between
the Bridgeport Bluefish and the Long Island Ducks, former major league all-star
player Jose Offerman was hit by a pitch in the second. He stormed the mound,
swinging his bat
Bridgeport catcher, John Nathans, who played for the Lancaster Barnstormers in
2005, chased Offerman. Nathans suffered a concussion as he fought off the
enraged hitter.
The Bridgeport pitcher, Matt Beech, suffered a broken finger on his non-throwing
hand during the attack.
"He got out to the mound before we could," said Bluefish pitcher Mike Porzio.
"And luckily enough for Matt Beech, he was agile enough to dodge a bat. But it
may have only been by John Nathans taking one of the back swing in the head that
saved Matt Beech from taking one in the face."
Nathans attempted to continue playing, but left the game with nausea. He
collapsed in the dugout.
Offerman is now charged with two counts of second-degree assault. Police
arrested him immediately after the game. Click through this slideshow for
pictures of the arrest. Offerman has also been suspended indefinitely.
The owner of the Bluefish said she's never seen anything like it.
"He was apparently so angry that in his swing he hit both our pitcher and our
catcher. And our catcher is now, you know, has a concussion and is on his way to
the hospital. I've never seen anything like that in baseball," said Bluefish CEO
Mary Jane Foster.
Offerman was released on $10,000 bond.
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| User: "Roy A. Fletcher" |
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| Title: Re: __ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __ |
16 Aug 2007 05:10:18 PM |
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¥ UltraMan ¥ (ultra@man.jp) wrote:
with editing...
: Ex-Barnstormer Injured As Batter Charges Mound Swinging Bat
: BRIDGEPORT, Conn. -- It was a wild night Tuesday in a minor league baseball game
: in Bridgeport, Conn.
: After hitting a home run in the first inning of the Atlantic League game between
: the Bridgeport Bluefish and the Long Island Ducks, former major league all-star
: player Jose Offerman was hit by a pitch in the second. He stormed the mound,
: swinging his bat
Couple of questions (which the presiding judge is sure to ask) :
Why was the pitcher (home-team pitcher) not charged with assault?
Did the catcher approach from behind? Answer : yes. Oh!Oh!
Did the catcher aggravate the incident by approaching from behind?
Have there been many similar incidents where the batter charged
the pitcher and no assault occurred? Certainly yes!
Was the catcher partly responsible for the severity of the incident
by his actions? Sounds like it.
Regards. RAF
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| User: "J Young" |
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| Title: Re: __ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __ |
16 Aug 2007 09:45:21 PM |
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Maybe hockey players aren't a bunch of candy-asses like these baseball
players obviously are
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: __ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __ |
16 Aug 2007 09:35:13 PM |
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On 16 Aug 2007 14:10:18 -0800, (Roy A.
Fletcher) wrote:
¥ UltraMan ¥ (ultra@man.jp) wrote:
with editing...
: Ex-Barnstormer Injured As Batter Charges Mound Swinging Bat
: BRIDGEPORT, Conn. -- It was a wild night Tuesday in a minor league baseball game
: in Bridgeport, Conn.
: After hitting a home run in the first inning of the Atlantic League game between
: the Bridgeport Bluefish and the Long Island Ducks, former major league all-star
: player Jose Offerman was hit by a pitch in the second. He stormed the mound,
: swinging his bat
Couple of questions (which the presiding judge is sure to ask) :
Why was the pitcher (home-team pitcher) not charged with assault?
Because being hit by a pitched ball is part of the game.
Did the catcher approach from behind? Answer : yes.
To PREVENT aggravated assault? Yes.
Did the catcher aggravate the incident by approaching from behind?
No, he attempted to prevent the assault.
Was the catcher partly responsible for the severity of the incident
by his actions?
He was trying to PREVENT the commission of a felony.
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| User: "° Shanghai Lil °" |
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| Title: Re: __ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __ |
17 Aug 2007 07:43:47 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 16 Aug 2007 14:10:18 -0800, (Roy A.
Fletcher) wrote:
¥ UltraMan ¥ (ultra@man.jp) wrote:
with editing...
Ex-Barnstormer Injured As Batter Charges Mound Swinging Bat
BRIDGEPORT, Conn. -- It was a wild night Tuesday in a minor league
baseball game in Bridgeport, Conn.
After hitting a home run in the first inning of the Atlantic League
game between the Bridgeport Bluefish and the Long Island Ducks,
former major league all-star player Jose Offerman was hit by a
pitch in the second. He stormed the mound, swinging his bat
Couple of questions (which the presiding judge is sure to ask) :
Why was the pitcher (home-team pitcher) not charged with assault?
Because being hit by a pitched ball is part of the game.
So being beaten and punched with fists is what part of the game of Ice Hockey?
Did the catcher approach from behind? Answer : yes.
To PREVENT aggravated assault? Yes.
Did the catcher aggravate the incident by approaching from behind?
No, he attempted to prevent the assault.
Was the catcher partly responsible for the severity of the incident
by his actions?
He was trying to PREVENT the commission of a felony.
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: __ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __ |
17 Aug 2007 09:10:36 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:43:47 -0600, "° Shanghai Lil °"
<Lilly@Shanghai.cn> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 16 Aug 2007 14:10:18 -0800, (Roy A.
Fletcher) wrote:
¥ UltraMan ¥ (ultra@man.jp) wrote:
with editing...
Ex-Barnstormer Injured As Batter Charges Mound Swinging Bat
BRIDGEPORT, Conn. -- It was a wild night Tuesday in a minor league
baseball game in Bridgeport, Conn.
After hitting a home run in the first inning of the Atlantic League
game between the Bridgeport Bluefish and the Long Island Ducks,
former major league all-star player Jose Offerman was hit by a
pitch in the second. He stormed the mound, swinging his bat
Couple of questions (which the presiding judge is sure to ask) :
Why was the pitcher (home-team pitcher) not charged with assault?
Because being hit by a pitched ball is part of the game.
So being beaten and punched with fists is what part of the game of Ice Hockey?
You have it wrong.
Hockey is what part of an ice rink fight?
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| User: "_ Prof. Jonez _" |
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| Title: Re: __ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __ |
18 Aug 2007 07:48:39 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:43:47 -0600, "° Shanghai Lil °"
Al Klein wrote:
On 16 Aug 2007 14:10:18 -0800, (Roy A.
Fletcher) wrote:
¥ UltraMan ¥ (ultra@man.jp) wrote:
Ex-Barnstormer Injured As Batter Charges Mound Swinging Bat
BRIDGEPORT, Conn. -- It was a wild night Tuesday in a minor league
baseball game in Bridgeport, Conn.
After hitting a home run in the first inning of the Atlantic
League game between the Bridgeport Bluefish and the Long Island
Ducks, former major league all-star player Jose Offerman was hit
by a pitch in the second. He stormed the mound, swinging his bat
Couple of questions (which the presiding judge is sure to ask) :
Why was the pitcher (home-team pitcher) not charged with assault?
Because being hit by a pitched ball is part of the game.
So being beaten and punched with fists is what part of the game of
Ice Hockey?
You have it wrong.
Hockey is what part of an ice rink fight?
The old -- "I went to a Fight and a Hockey Game broke out" shtick, eh?
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| User: "Yeah Right" |
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| Title: Re: __ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __ |
03 Sep 2007 03:40:32 PM |
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On , , Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:10:36 -0400, Re: __ Why aren't
Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <=
Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __, Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:43:47 -0600, "° Shanghai Lil °"
<Lilly@Shanghai.cn> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 16 Aug 2007 14:10:18 -0800, (Roy A.
Fletcher) wrote:
¥ UltraMan ¥ (ultra@man.jp) wrote:
with editing...
Ex-Barnstormer Injured As Batter Charges Mound Swinging Bat
BRIDGEPORT, Conn. -- It was a wild night Tuesday in a minor league
baseball game in Bridgeport, Conn.
After hitting a home run in the first inning of the Atlantic League
game between the Bridgeport Bluefish and the Long Island Ducks,
former major league all-star player Jose Offerman was hit by a
pitch in the second. He stormed the mound, swinging his bat
Couple of questions (which the presiding judge is sure to ask) :
Why was the pitcher (home-team pitcher) not charged with assault?
Because being hit by a pitched ball is part of the game.
So being beaten and punched with fists is what part of the game of Ice Hockey?
You have it wrong.
Hockey is what part of an ice rink fight?
Blood on the ice.
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| User: "Richard R. Hershberger" |
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| Title: Re: __ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __ |
17 Aug 2007 12:26:54 PM |
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On Aug 16, 10:35 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On 16 Aug 2007 14:10:18 -0800, (Roy A.
Fletcher) wrote:
=A5 UltraMan =A5 (ul...@man.jp) wrote:
with editing...
: Ex-Barnstormer Injured As Batter Charges Mound Swinging Bat
: BRIDGEPORT, Conn. -- It was a wild night Tuesday in a minor league bas=
eball game
: in Bridgeport, Conn.
: After hitting a home run in the first inning of the Atlantic League ga=
me between
: the Bridgeport Bluefish and the Long Island Ducks, former major league=
all-star
: player Jose Offerman was hit by a pitch in the second. He stormed the =
mound,
: swinging his bat
Couple of questions (which the presiding judge is sure to ask) :
Why was the pitcher (home-team pitcher) not charged with assault?
Because being hit by a pitched ball is part of the game.
As is, at least arguably, charging the mound. Charging the mound
while carrying the bat and using the bat as a weapon is rather a
different matter. This is the whole point of the criminal charges.
Hmm... I wonder if this sort of thing happens in cricket? Cricket
batsmen routinely carry their bats with them as they run, so if a
batsman felt moved to charge the bowler he would naturally bring a
weapon with him.
Richard R. Hershberger
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: __ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __ |
17 Aug 2007 06:26:23 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:26:54 -0700 there was an Ancient "Richard R.
Hershberger" <rrhersh@acme.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
On Aug 16, 10:35 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On 16 Aug 2007 14:10:18 -0800, (Roy A.
Fletcher) wrote:
¥ UltraMan ¥ (ul...@man.jp) wrote:
with editing...
: Ex-Barnstormer Injured As Batter Charges Mound Swinging Bat
: BRIDGEPORT, Conn. -- It was a wild night Tuesday in a minor league baseball game
: in Bridgeport, Conn.
: After hitting a home run in the first inning of the Atlantic League game between
: the Bridgeport Bluefish and the Long Island Ducks, former major league all-star
: player Jose Offerman was hit by a pitch in the second. He stormed the mound,
: swinging his bat
Couple of questions (which the presiding judge is sure to ask) :
Why was the pitcher (home-team pitcher) not charged with assault?
Because being hit by a pitched ball is part of the game.
As is, at least arguably, charging the mound. Charging the mound
while carrying the bat and using the bat as a weapon is rather a
different matter. This is the whole point of the criminal charges.
Note that intentionally beaning a batter is against the rules and can
result in an ejection or both the pitcher and the manager.
Rule 8.02 states as follows:
(d) The pitcher shall not intentionally pitch at the batter.
If, in the umpire's judgment, such a violation occurs, the umpire may
elect either to:
1. Expel the pitcher, or the manager and the pitcher, from the
game, or
2. may warn the pitcher and the manager of both teams that another
such pitch will result in the immediate expulsion of that pitcher (or
a replacement) and the manager.
If, in the umpire's judgment, circumstances warrant, both teams may be
officially "warned" prior to the game or at any time during the game.
To pitch at a batter's head is unsportsmanlike and highly dangerous.
It should be and is - condemned by everybody. Umpires should act
without hesitation in enforcement of this rule.
Pitchers do miss inside, and players sometimes don't back away from
brush-back pitchers. So being hit by a pitch gives you first base.
Charging the mound, or starting any sort of fight, is absolutley
against the rules.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Yeah Right" |
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| Title: Re: __ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __ |
03 Sep 2007 03:40:33 PM |
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On , , Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:26:54 -0700, Re: __ Why aren't
Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <=
Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __, "Richard R.
Hershberger" <rrhersh@acme.com> wrote:
Hmm... I wonder if this sort of thing happens in cricket? Cricket
batsmen routinely carry their bats with them as they run,
It's usually their own personal bat, at least in the
professionals and counties/provincial teams.
so if a batsman felt moved to charge the bowler he would
naturally bring a weapon with him.
I've never seen it happen and I watch a lot of Cricket. I've
never heard of it happening either.
Cricket is a different class of game. Players get hit
occasionally but it depends on the bowlers style, bodyline
bowling is strongly discouraged, as are bouncers.
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| User: "Richard R. Hershberger" |
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| Title: Re: __ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __ |
04 Sep 2007 10:59:14 AM |
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On Sep 3, 4:40 pm, Yeah Right <freewhye...@freewhatever.freehowever>
wrote:
On , , Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:26:54 -0700, Re: __ Why aren't
Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <=
Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __, "Richard R.
Hershberger" <rrhe...@acme.com> wrote:
Hmm... I wonder if this sort of thing happens in cricket? Cricket
batsmen routinely carry their bats with them as they run,
It's usually their own personal bat, at least in the
professionals and counties/provincial teams.
so if a batsman felt moved to charge the bowler he would
naturally bring a weapon with him.
I've never seen it happen and I watch a lot of Cricket. I've
never heard of it happening either.
Cricket is a different class of game. Players get hit
occasionally but it depends on the bowlers style, bodyline
bowling is strongly discouraged, as are bouncers.
Professional baseball players also own their own bats, and typically
are very protective of them (the fact of broken bats
notwithstanding). But they don't run with them. When they hit the
ball they drop the bat before running. There is a "bat boy" whose
primary job is to retrieve the bat and return it to its proper place.
This is why charging the mound with the bat is so unusual. Charging
the mound it not extraordinary (though neither is it common) but the
baseball player's instinct is to drop the bat before running
anywhere. That is why this situation is so remarkable. Offerman
either was so outraged that the instinct to carry a weapon overruled
the instinct to drop the bat, or he made a conscious decision to go
into the altercation armed.
I gather from the various responses that cricket has no tradition of
any equivalent to charging the mound, so the question of what
equipment to carry into the altercation does not arise.
It should be emphasized that this sort of behavior isn't really
commonplace. A charge of the mound happens often enough that it isn't
amazing, but it really is not common. Nowadays the player doing the
charging will be penalized by the league. (I also note that these
charges often seem somewhat half-hearted. How else to explain the
phenomenon of the catcher, who is normally the slowest player on the
team, has to come up out of a crouch, and is wearing body armor, being
able to catch up with and wrap his arms around the charging player?)
Richard R. Hershberger
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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04 Sep 2007 04:52:03 PM |
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:59:14 -0700, "Richard R. Hershberger"
<rrhersh@acme.com> wrote:
Professional baseball players also own their own bats, and typically
are very protective of them (the fact of broken bats
notwithstanding). But they don't run with them. When they hit the
ball they drop the bat before running.
Not always - watch closely. Many of them drop the bat after a couple
of steps.
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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03 Sep 2007 03:47:32 PM |
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On Sep 3, 9:40 pm, Yeah Right <freewhye...@freewhatever.freehowever>
wrote:
On , , Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:26:54 -0700, Re: __ Why aren't
Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <=
Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __, "Richard R.
Hershberger" <rrhe...@acme.com> wrote:
Hmm... I wonder if this sort of thing happens in cricket? Cricket
batsmen routinely carry their bats with them as they run,
It's usually their own personal bat, at least in the
professionals and counties/provincial teams.
so if a batsman felt moved to charge the bowler he would
naturally bring a weapon with him.
I've never seen it happen and I watch a lot of Cricket. I've
never heard of it happening either.
Cricket is a different class of game. Players get hit
occasionally but it depends on the bowlers style, bodyline
bowling is strongly discouraged, as are bouncers.
The closest incidents I've seen involve the somewhat brattish Sree
Santh, who bowled a probably deliberate beamer (ball that doesn't
bonce, just goes straight along at head height at Kevin Pietersen and
barged Michael Vaughan. The bouncer is a perfectly legitimate weapon
when used in moderation, and to a good batsman is just an oppurtunity
to hook the ball for six.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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| User: "Roger Moore" |
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05 Sep 2007 02:41:15 PM |
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Yeah Right <freewhyever@freewhatever.freehowever> writes:
I've never seen it happen and I watch a lot of Cricket. I've
never heard of it happening either.
Cricket is a different class of game. Players get hit
occasionally but it depends on the bowlers style, bodyline
bowling is strongly discouraged, as are bouncers.
Cricket batsmen have a lot more protective gear than baseball batters,
which probably changes their perception of the seriousness of being
hit. Also, most baseball batters who charge the mound do so on balls
thrown near their heads. From my limited understanding of the cricket
rules, I'd expect that to be far less common in cricket than in
baseball.
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Roger Moore | Master of Meaningless Trivia | (raj@alumni.caltech.edu)
There's no point in questioning authority if you don't listen to the answers.
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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05 Sep 2007 03:22:13 PM |
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On Sep 5, 8:41 pm, (Roger Moore) wrote:
Yeah Right <freewhye...@freewhatever.freehowever> writes:
I've never seen it happen and I watch a lot of Cricket. I've
never heard of it happening either.
Cricket is a different class of game. Players get hit
occasionally but it depends on the bowlers style, bodyline
bowling is strongly discouraged, as are bouncers.
Cricket batsmen have a lot more protective gear than baseball batters,
which probably changes their perception of the seriousness of being
hit. Also, most baseball batters who charge the mound do so on balls
thrown near their heads. From my limited understanding of the cricket
rules, I'd expect that to be far less common in cricket than in
baseball.
It's actually a lot more common. The bouncer (a ball that pitches
quite short and rears up high) is considered a perfectly legitimate
weapon against a batsman. There are however a couple of key
differences, firstly the cricket batsman has the hook and pull shots
that can easily be used to score fours and sixes, secondly that due to
the short pitch of the ball it's easyier to anticipate in order to
either go after it or dodge, and thirdly that the cricket ball, while
harder than a abseball, will be travelling quite a bit slower by the
time it reaches the batsman (the 100mph at release delivery appears to
only have occured once or so, and the ball slows as it pitches).
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Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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| User: "Deadrat" |
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| Title: Re: __ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __ |
03 Sep 2007 03:52:28 PM |
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Yeah Right <freewhyever@freewhatever.freehowever> wrote in
news:eoond3h4qquqcolcqo9e9v82smbr35p1gt@4ax.com:
On , , Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:26:54 -0700, Re: __ Why aren't
Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <=
Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __, "Richard R.
Hershberger" <rrhersh@acme.com> wrote:
Hmm... I wonder if this sort of thing happens in cricket? Cricket
batsmen routinely carry their bats with them as they run,
It's usually their own personal bat, at least in the
professionals and counties/provincial teams.
so if a batsman felt moved to charge the bowler he would
naturally bring a weapon with him.
I've never seen it happen and I watch a lot of Cricket. I've
never heard of it happening either.
Cricket is a different class of game. Players get hit
occasionally but it depends on the bowlers style, bodyline
bowling is strongly discouraged, as are bouncers.
I think most players become comatose with boredom before they could get
involved in an altercation, and most spectators become comatose with
boredom before they could observe one.
"Well, played, ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz ..."
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| User: "Yeah Right" |
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| Title: Re: __ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __ |
04 Sep 2007 05:22:16 AM |
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On , , Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:52:28 GMT, Re: __ Why aren't Fighting
Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer
arrested for charging mound __, Deadrat <a@b.com> wrote:
Yeah Right <freewhyever@freewhatever.freehowever> wrote in
news:eoond3h4qquqcolcqo9e9v82smbr35p1gt@4ax.com:
On , , Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:26:54 -0700, Re: __ Why aren't
Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <=
Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __, "Richard R.
Hershberger" <rrhersh@acme.com> wrote:
Hmm... I wonder if this sort of thing happens in cricket? Cricket
batsmen routinely carry their bats with them as they run,
It's usually their own personal bat, at least in the
professionals and counties/provincial teams.
so if a batsman felt moved to charge the bowler he would
naturally bring a weapon with him.
I've never seen it happen and I watch a lot of Cricket. I've
never heard of it happening either.
Cricket is a different class of game. Players get hit
occasionally but it depends on the bowlers style, bodyline
bowling is strongly discouraged, as are bouncers.
I think most players become comatose with boredom before they could get
involved in an altercation, and most spectators become comatose with
boredom before they could observe one.
Then you obviously don't understand cricket.
The truest form of cricket is the 5 day test.
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| User: "Deadrat" |
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| Title: Re: __ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __ |
04 Sep 2007 09:20:01 AM |
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Yeah Right <freewhyever@freewhatever.freehowever> wrote in
news:l09qd3demrbop2f3jnpjif7lgfvovm1o59@4ax.com:
On , , Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:52:28 GMT, Re: __ Why aren't Fighting
Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer
arrested for charging mound __, Deadrat <a@b.com> wrote:
Yeah Right <freewhyever@freewhatever.freehowever> wrote in
news:eoond3h4qquqcolcqo9e9v82smbr35p1gt@4ax.com:
On , , Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:26:54 -0700, Re: __ Why aren't
Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <=
Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __, "Richard R.
Hershberger" <rrhersh@acme.com> wrote:
Hmm... I wonder if this sort of thing happens in cricket? Cricket
batsmen routinely carry their bats with them as they run,
It's usually their own personal bat, at least in the
professionals and counties/provincial teams.
so if a batsman felt moved to charge the bowler he would
naturally bring a weapon with him.
I've never seen it happen and I watch a lot of Cricket. I've
never heard of it happening either.
Cricket is a different class of game. Players get hit
occasionally but it depends on the bowlers style, bodyline
bowling is strongly discouraged, as are bouncers.
I think most players become comatose with boredom before they could get
involved in an altercation, and most spectators become comatose with
boredom before they could observe one.
Then you obviously don't understand cricket.
The truest form of cricket is the 5 day test.
Of course I understand cricket. Cricket is a bat-and-ball sport contested
by two teams, usually of eleven ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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| Title: Re: __ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __ |
03 Sep 2007 03:50:21 PM |
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On Aug 17, 6:26 pm, "Richard R. Hershberger" <rrhe...@acme.com> wrote:
On Aug 16, 10:35 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On 16 Aug 2007 14:10:18 -0800, (Roy A.
Fletcher) wrote:
=A5 UltraMan =A5 (ul...@man.jp) wrote:
with editing...
: Ex-Barnstormer Injured As Batter Charges Mound Swinging Bat
: BRIDGEPORT, Conn. -- It was a wild night Tuesday in a minor league b=
aseball game
: in Bridgeport, Conn.
: After hitting a home run in the first inning of the Atlantic League =
game between
: the Bridgeport Bluefish and the Long Island Ducks, former major leag=
ue all-star
: player Jose Offerman was hit by a pitch in the second. He stormed th=
e mound,
: swinging his bat
Couple of questions (which the presiding judge is sure to ask) :
Why was the pitcher (home-team pitcher) not charged with assault?
Because being hit by a pitched ball is part of the game.
As is, at least arguably, charging the mound. Charging the mound
while carrying the bat and using the bat as a weapon is rather a
different matter. This is the whole point of the criminal charges.
Hmm... I wonder if this sort of thing happens in cricket? Cricket
batsmen routinely carry their bats with them as they run,
It's absolutely essential to carry the bat, as to avoid a runout one
must have either the bat or part of the body grounded in the crease
when the bails are removed, and it's easiest to run the bat in, that
and a cricketer will likely as not be facing the strike again very
soon after running.
so if a
batsman felt moved to charge the bowler he would naturally bring a
weapon with him.
Very unlikely in cricket, to be honest. Even the most agressive
players tend to keep it to words and hostile bowling. After Sree
Santh's beamer at Trent Bridge a few commentators discussed that such
a delivery could be considered a criminal assault if it could be
proved it was bowled deliberately.
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and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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| User: "Yeah Right" |
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| Title: Re: __ Why aren't Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <= Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __ |
04 Sep 2007 05:22:17 AM |
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On , , Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:50:21 -0700, Re: __ Why aren't
Fighting Hockey Players charged with Criminal Assault ? <=
Ballplayer arrested for charging mound __, Lucifer
<wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote:
It's absolutely essential to carry the bat, as to avoid a runout one
must have either the bat or part of the body grounded in the crease
when the bails are removed, and it's easiest to run the bat in, that
and a cricketer will likely as not be facing the strike again very
soon after running.
so if a
batsman felt moved to charge the bowler he would naturally bring a
weapon with him.
Very unlikely in cricket, to be honest. Even the most agressive
players tend to keep it to words and hostile bowling.
Sledging of course is an art form. A good wicket keeper can
disturb a batsman.
After Sree
Santh's beamer at Trent Bridge a few commentators discussed that such
a delivery could be considered a criminal assault if it could be
proved it was bowled deliberately.
It would be pretty hard to regard a beamer as anything other than
deliberate. A second beamer in a game would be actionable.
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