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Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Fred Stone" |
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21 Feb 2007 07:26:00 PM |
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A Candidate's Creed |
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the member
of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the
White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation or
criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
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| User: "GoDrex" |
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| Title: Re: A Candidate's Creed |
22 Feb 2007 08:03:56 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98DED02EF50DAfreddybear@194.177.96.26...
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the member
of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the
White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
I understood the point. You're talking about Obama's church. And without
any irony you flipped it around from black to white.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: A Candidate's Creed |
22 Feb 2007 03:45:31 PM |
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"GoDrex" <godrex35@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:TNGdnYy1DphRP0DYnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@ptd.net:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98DED02EF50DAfreddybear@194.177.96.26...
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace
the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
I understood the point. You're talking about Obama's church. And
without
any irony you flipped it around from black to white.
So it wouldn't bother you about a candidate if those things were just as
they're written above?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
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| User: "GoDrex" |
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| Title: Re: A Candidate's Creed |
21 Feb 2007 08:04:35 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98DED02EF50DAfreddybear@194.177.96.26...
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the member
of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the
White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
didn't more than 50% vote for this? twice? ;)
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: A Candidate's Creed |
21 Feb 2007 09:31:04 PM |
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"GoDrex" <godrex35@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:_VWdnXMceOOpZ0HYUSdV9g@ptd.net:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98DED02EF50DAfreddybear@194.177.96.26...
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace
the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
didn't more than 50% vote for this? twice? ;)
That whooshing sound was the point going over your head.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th" |
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| Title: Re: A Candidate's Creed |
21 Feb 2007 09:30:07 PM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DED02EF50DAfreddybear@194.177.96.26:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace
the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
The KKK have put up a candidate? Or are you meaning Bush Junior?
Klazmon.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: A Candidate's Creed |
21 Feb 2007 09:38:58 PM |
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Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in
news:Xns98DFA7DDC4CEAKlazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DED02EF50DAfreddybear@194.177.96.26:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace
the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
The KKK have put up a candidate? Or are you meaning Bush Junior?
You're close. Change "white" to "black" and it's Barack Obama.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th" |
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| Title: Re: A Candidate's Creed |
21 Feb 2007 10:42:49 PM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DEE6BB2CAD4freddybear@194.177.96.26:
TLlanzlan Klazmon the 15th <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in
news:Xns98DFA7DDC4CEAKlazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DED02EF50DAfreddybear@194.177.96.26:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace
the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
The KKK have put up a candidate? Or are you meaning Bush Junior?
You're close. Change "white" to "black" and it's Barack Obama.
Looks like this Obama guy has you GOPies running scared.
Klazmon.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: A Candidate's Creed |
22 Feb 2007 06:29:12 AM |
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Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in
news:Xns98DFB431B6C53Klazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DEE6BB2CAD4freddybear@194.177.96.26:
TLlanzlan Klazmon the 15th <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in
news:Xns98DFA7DDC4CEAKlazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DED02EF50DAfreddybear@194.177.96.26:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources
for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and
embrace
the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
The KKK have put up a candidate? Or are you meaning Bush Junior?
You're close. Change "white" to "black" and it's Barack Obama.
Looks like this Obama guy has you GOPies running scared.
That's hilarious. All of a sudden he morphs from being a KKK clone to
being somebody who scares the GOP? You must be kidding.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th" |
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| Title: Re: A Candidate's Creed |
22 Feb 2007 02:53:36 PM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DF4C7BEB2F0freddybear@194.177.96.26:
Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in
news:Xns98DFB431B6C53Klazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DEE6BB2CAD4freddybear@194.177.96.26:
TLlanzlan Klazmon the 15th <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in
news:Xns98DFA7DDC4CEAKlazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DED02EF50DAfreddybear@194.177.96.26:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources
for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and
embrace
the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
The KKK have put up a candidate? Or are you meaning Bush Junior?
You're close. Change "white" to "black" and it's Barack Obama.
Looks like this Obama guy has you GOPies running scared.
That's hilarious. All of a sudden he morphs from being a KKK clone to
being somebody who scares the GOP? You must be kidding.
You own reaction betrays you.
Klazmon.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: A Candidate's Creed |
22 Feb 2007 04:05:22 PM |
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Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in
news:Xns98E064A418566Klazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DF4C7BEB2F0freddybear@194.177.96.26:
Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in
news:Xns98DFB431B6C53Klazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DEE6BB2CAD4freddybear@194.177.96.26:
TLlanzlan Klazmon the 15th <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in
news:Xns98DFA7DDC4CEAKlazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DED02EF50DAfreddybear@194.177.96.26:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was
the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired
skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources
for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and
embrace
the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
The KKK have put up a candidate? Or are you meaning Bush Junior?
You're close. Change "white" to "black" and it's Barack Obama.
Looks like this Obama guy has you GOPies running scared.
That's hilarious. All of a sudden he morphs from being a KKK clone to
being somebody who scares the GOP? You must be kidding.
You own reaction betrays you.
*my* reaction? What about yours?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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| Title: Re: A Candidate's Creed |
21 Feb 2007 11:20:27 PM |
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On 22 Feb 2007 17:42:49 +1300, Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
<Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DEE6BB2CAD4freddybear@194.177.96.26:
TLlanzlan Klazmon the 15th <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in
news:Xns98DFA7DDC4CEAKlazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DED02EF50DAfreddybear@194.177.96.26:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace
the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
The KKK have put up a candidate? Or are you meaning Bush Junior?
You're close. Change "white" to "black" and it's Barack Obama.
Looks like this Obama guy has you GOPies running scared.
To try to swiftboat him 18 months in advance? You bet they're scared.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -3 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -3150 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: A Candidate's Creed |
22 Feb 2007 06:30:03 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
news:ov9qt2l82a3073ein874b6fmjjb5je6i8u@4ax.com:
On 22 Feb 2007 17:42:49 +1300, Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
<Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DEE6BB2CAD4freddybear@194.177.96.26:
TLlanzlan Klazmon the 15th <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in
news:Xns98DFA7DDC4CEAKlazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DED02EF50DAfreddybear@194.177.96.26:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was
the member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources
for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and
embrace the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
The KKK have put up a candidate? Or are you meaning Bush Junior?
You're close. Change "white" to "black" and it's Barack Obama.
Looks like this Obama guy has you GOPies running scared.
To try to swiftboat him 18 months in advance? You bet they're scared.
Ah, yes, "to swiftboat" - to tell the truth about a candidate.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
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| User: "Richo" |
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| Title: Re: A Candidate's Creed |
22 Feb 2007 07:16:06 PM |
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On Feb 22, 11:30 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote innews:ov9qt2l82a3073ein874b6fmjjb5je6i8u@4ax.com:
On 22 Feb 2007 17:42:49 +1300, Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
<Klaz...@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote:
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DEE6BB2CAD4freddybear@194.177.96.26:
TLlanzlan Klazmon the 15th <Klaz...@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in
news:Xns98DFA7DDC4CEAKlazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6:
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DED02EF50DAfreddybear@194.177.96.26:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was
the member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources
for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and
embrace the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
The KKK have put up a candidate? Or are you meaning Bush Junior?
You're close. Change "white" to "black" and it's Barack Obama.
Looks like this Obama guy has you GOPies running scared.
To try to swiftboat him 18 months in advance? You bet they're scared.
Ah, yes, "to swiftboat" - to tell the truth about a candidate.
Actually I thought "swifboat" was not the apropriate term.
There are many different ways to attack an opponent - "swiftboating"
is but one.
I also dislike calling every republican a "neocon" (which Yang is
quilty of) - the neocons are a specific group with a specific
philosophy and history - and they have probably had their day in the
republican party - a brief but disasterous rule.
I predict that in 12 years time when (hopefully) there is not a
single "neocon" in a position of power or responsibility the term will
still be used by the left as an insult.
Mark.
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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22 Feb 2007 08:54:01 PM |
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On 22 Feb 2007 17:16:06 -0800, "Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au>
wrote:
On Feb 22, 11:30 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote innews:ov9qt2l82a3073ein874b6fmjjb5je6i8u@4ax.com:
On 22 Feb 2007 17:42:49 +1300, Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
<Klaz...@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote:
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DEE6BB2CAD4freddybear@194.177.96.26:
TLlanzlan Klazmon the 15th <Klaz...@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in
news:Xns98DFA7DDC4CEAKlazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6:
Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DED02EF50DAfreddybear@194.177.96.26:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was
the member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources
for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and
embrace the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
The KKK have put up a candidate? Or are you meaning Bush Junior?
You're close. Change "white" to "black" and it's Barack Obama.
Looks like this Obama guy has you GOPies running scared.
To try to swiftboat him 18 months in advance? You bet they're scared.
Ah, yes, "to swiftboat" - to tell the truth about a candidate.
Actually I thought "swifboat" was not the apropriate term.
There are many different ways to attack an opponent - "swiftboating"
is but one.
I also dislike calling every republican a "neocon" (which Yang is
quilty of)
Really? When did I call Chuck Hagel a NeoCon?
- the neocons are a specific group with a specific
philosophy and history - and they have probably had their day in the
republican party - a brief but disasterous rule.
I predict that in 12 years time when (hopefully) there is not a
single "neocon" in a position of power or responsibility the term will
still be used by the left as an insult.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -3 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -3150 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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On Feb 23, 1:54 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
On 22 Feb 2007 17:16:06 -0800, "Richo" <m.richard...@utas.edu.au>
wrote:
<snipola>
Actually I thought "swifboat" was not the apropriate term.
There are many different ways to attack an opponent - "swiftboating"
is but one.
I also dislike calling every republican a "neocon" (which Yang is
quilty of)
Really? When did I call Chuck Hagel a NeoCon?
I cant say you did that - i was making a general comment.
You rascal.
8-)
Cheers, Mark.
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22 Feb 2007 10:29:03 PM |
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On Feb 23, 1:54 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
On 22 Feb 2007 17:16:06 -0800, "Richo" <m.richard...@utas.edu.au>
wrote:
I also dislike calling every republican a "neocon" (which Yang is
quilty of)
Really? When did I call Chuck Hagel a NeoCon?
<Mark quickly finds out something about Chuck Hagel...> ***
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/24/AR2006112401104.html
Ok this guy is no NeoCon - he is a pragmatic, rational, conservative
type.
Hopefully this is the kind of man that represents the future of the
Republican party.
I think the USA needs a conservative party and I dont see why the
Republican Party cant be one again.
The religious whako right will fight that - but there are plenty of
conservatives that understand what "the crazies" (Colin Powell's term
for the NeoCons) have done.
I even hold out hope that Fredo will one day push for a return to
conservatism in the Rebuplican party.
Cheers, Mark.
*** give me a break I am not a US citizen!
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On 22 Feb 2007 20:29:03 -0800, "Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au>
wrote:
On Feb 23, 1:54 pm, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
On 22 Feb 2007 17:16:06 -0800, "Richo" <m.richard...@utas.edu.au>
wrote:
I also dislike calling every republican a "neocon" (which Yang is
quilty of)
Really? When did I call Chuck Hagel a NeoCon?
<Mark quickly finds out something about Chuck Hagel...> ***
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/24/AR2006112401104.html
Ok this guy is no NeoCon - he is a pragmatic, rational, conservative
type.
Hopefully this is the kind of man that represents the future of the
Republican party.
I think the USA needs a conservative party and I dont see why the
Republican Party cant be one again.
I quite agree. Just because I lean liberal doesn't mean I trust the
Democrats 100%. Alternatively, the GOP can implode and the
Libertarians can become the second party. I can live with that as
well.
The religious whako right will fight that - but there are plenty of
conservatives that understand what "the crazies" (Colin Powell's term
for the NeoCons) have done.
I even hold out hope that Fredo will one day push for a return to
conservatism in the Rebuplican party.
Cheers, Mark.
*** give me a break I am not a US citizen!
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a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -3 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -3150 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:30:03 +0100 (CET), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
news:ov9qt2l82a3073ein874b6fmjjb5je6i8u@4ax.com:
On 22 Feb 2007 17:42:49 +1300, Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
<Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DEE6BB2CAD4freddybear@194.177.96.26:
TLlanzlan Klazmon the 15th <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in
news:Xns98DFA7DDC4CEAKlazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DED02EF50DAfreddybear@194.177.96.26:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was
the member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources
for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and
embrace the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
The KKK have put up a candidate? Or are you meaning Bush Junior?
You're close. Change "white" to "black" and it's Barack Obama.
Looks like this Obama guy has you GOPies running scared.
To try to swiftboat him 18 months in advance? You bet they're scared.
Ah, yes, "to swiftboat" - to tell the truth about a candidate.
Ah Fred Stone telling the 'truth'
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -3 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -3150 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
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On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:20:27 -0600, Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote
(in article <ov9qt2l82a3073ein874b6fmjjb5je6i8u@4ax.com>):
Subject: Re: A Candidate's Creed
From: "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
Date: 2/21/07 11:20 PM
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
On 22 Feb 2007 17:42:49 +1300, Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
<Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DEE6BB2CAD4freddybear@194.177.96.26:
TLlanzlan Klazmon the 15th <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in
news:Xns98DFA7DDC4CEAKlazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:Xns98DED02EF50DAfreddybear@194.177.96.26:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace
the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
The KKK have put up a candidate? Or are you meaning Bush Junior?
You're close. Change "white" to "black" and it's Barack Obama.
Looks like this Obama guy has you GOPies running scared.
To try to swiftboat him 18 months in advance? You bet they're scared.
The party that's always claiming the Democrats have "no ideas," the GOP is
awful quick to resort to plain old ad hom smear campaigns.
The attack is racist, not the "creed." We *all *know the only people who go
about yapping things like "white value system" and "white community" are
supremacists who co-opted the language of the civil rights movement because
they believe they are, somehow, oppressed. Also because they're trying to be
more socially acceptable by trying to clothe their hatred of other races in
the language of pride and self-sufficiency.
The game being played by the reich wingers is dishonest in the extreme.
Further, it's a curious disavowal of the very things the GOP used to stand
for. The creed of Obama's church (among others) is an advocacy of the black
community pulling itself up by its own dedication to such things as
community, family, education, ethics, and work. One has to wonder when such
things became so repugnant to Republicans...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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22 Feb 2007 01:46:20 AM |
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On 22 feb, 08:26, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the member
of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
What God?
2. Commitment to the White Community
Do you mean secular humanism?
3. Commitment to the White Family
Do you mean the one with two parents?
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
OK
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
OK
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
Do you mean the American way of life?
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
O, you mean the English upper-class way of life!
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
Nescessary if you want to pursue Exellence
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community
You mean keep the status quo?
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
Pay taxes?
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
Like the Bush adminstration but whithout they odd condoleeza's?
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
Again what value system are you calling "white"?
Anyway the question would be:
"Who are the other candidates?"
Peter van Velzen
principally against none-voting
February 2007
Thung Song
Thailand
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22 Feb 2007 06:49:22 AM |
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"pbamvv@worldonline.nl" <pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote in
news:1172130380.267757.285400@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
On 22 feb, 08:26, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
What God?
2. Commitment to the White Community
Do you mean secular humanism?
3. Commitment to the White Family
Do you mean the one with two parents?
Last I heard, it takes two parents no matter what color their skin is.
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
OK
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
OK
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
Do you mean the American way of life?
No, Americans don't have to be white.
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
O, you mean the English upper-class way of life!
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
Nescessary if you want to pursue Exellence
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
You mean keep the status quo?
No, this is about a particular Community.
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
Pay taxes?
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace
the White Value System
Like the Bush adminstration but whithout they odd condoleeza's?
Condoleeza isn't so odd in the Bush administration.
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
Again what value system are you calling "white"?
Anyway the question would be:
"Who are the other candidates?"
You'll have probably read other responses by now and noticed that it was
a trick question. I replaced "black" with "white", the candidate is
Barack Obama and he's a member of a racist church. If he was white the
liberal Democrats would be howling for his head, but since he's black,
racism is *expected* and *encouraged*.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
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22 Feb 2007 01:27:39 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"pbamvv@worldonline.nl" <pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote in
news:1172130380.267757.285400@k78g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
On 22 feb, 08:26, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
What God?
2. Commitment to the White Community
Do you mean secular humanism?
3. Commitment to the White Family
Do you mean the one with two parents?
Last I heard, it takes two parents no matter what color their skin is.
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
OK
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
OK
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
Do you mean the American way of life?
No, Americans don't have to be white.
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
O, you mean the English upper-class way of life!
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
Nescessary if you want to pursue Exellence
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
You mean keep the status quo?
No, this is about a particular Community.
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
Pay taxes?
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace
the White Value System
Like the Bush adminstration but whithout they odd condoleeza's?
Condoleeza isn't so odd in the Bush administration.
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
Again what value system are you calling "white"?
Anyway the question would be:
"Who are the other candidates?"
You'll have probably read other responses by now and noticed that it was
a trick question. I replaced "black" with "white", the candidate is
Barack Obama and he's a member of a racist church. If he was white the
liberal Democrats would be howling for his head, but since he's black,
racism is *expected* and *encouraged*.
Fred, why do you keep claiming to have "replaced" anything in your post?
Why do you lie so much? You copied and pasted your post. You replaced
"Americans" with "of you". That's it Fred.
Why don't you at least acknowledge the true source of where your post came
from? I'm pretty sure Erik Rush wants to be credited for his work:
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/rush/070221
Obamination
Erik Rush
February 21, 2007
How many Americans would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
Commitment to God
Commitment to the White Community
Commitment to the White Family
Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
Adherence to the White Work Ethic
Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to
the White Community
Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White
Value System
Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
The question is rhetorical, of course. The answer is that such a candidate
wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected dog catcher
(apologies to America's animal rescue and public safety personnel) let alone
President, because that candidate would be instantly branded a racist, among
the most vile and frightening of white supremacists.
And those holding the branding irons would be 100% right.
Yet, in the "About" section of the U.S. Senate website for Barack Obama,
Democratic senator from Illinois and contender for the Democratic nomination
for President of the United States, it states that Obama and his family
"live on Chicago's South Side where they attend Trinity United Church of
Christ."
So...?
Well, to say that the Trinity United Church of Christ (http://www.tucc.org)
is afrocentric in the extreme would be a gross understatement. It's not
simply afrocentric, it's African-centric. In fact, one could argue that this
organization worships things African to a far greater degree than they do
Christ, and gives the impression of being a separatist "church" in the same
vein as do certain supremacist "white brethren" churches - or even Louis
Farrakhan's Nation of Islam.
Shocking? An overstatement? An overreaction?
One can see for oneself on the Trinity United Church website, which is
replete with confirmation of what I present here. What follows is an excerpt
from their Mission Statement:
"We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically
Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are
deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to
our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has
superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of
segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the
strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a
congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural
expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black
Community.
"Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by
the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We
believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black
Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and
schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following
concepts:
Commitment to God
Commitment to the Black Community
Commitment to the Black Family
Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to
the Black Community
Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black
Value System
Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System."
Sound familiar? Of course it is, since it's identical to the 12-point list
at the beginning of this column - the one from the theoretical white
supremacist candidate's church; the only difference is the substitution of
the word "Black" for "White."
<rest of the article that Fred Stone plagiarized at link above>
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--
Aloha, G-Ride
The force that's forcing you to feel like busting up a Starbucks.
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21 Feb 2007 08:25:18 PM |
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On Feb 22, 12:26 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the member
of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the
White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
Hmmm.... you have me intriqued.
I am guessing this is not Barack Obama
It's got to be someone you dont approve of.
Cinton is a Southern Baptist isnt she?
Is this the creed of Southern Baptists?
What do I win if I guess right?
8-)
Cheers, Mark.
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21 Feb 2007 09:29:00 PM |
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"Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote in
news:1172111118.839794.218530@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:
On Feb 22, 12:26 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace
the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
Hmmm.... you have me intriqued.
I am guessing this is not Barack Obama
It is Barack Obama. I changed "Black" to "White".
It's got to be someone you dont approve of.
Correct. I don't approve of racism.
Cinton is a Southern Baptist isnt she?
Is this the creed of Southern Baptists?
What do I win if I guess right?
8-)
Even the S-B's aren't that blatantly racist.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
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22 Feb 2007 09:00:11 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote in
news:1172111118.839794.218530@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:
On Feb 22, 12:26 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace
the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
Hmmm.... you have me intriqued.
I am guessing this is not Barack Obama
It is Barack Obama. I changed "Black" to "White".
It's got to be someone you dont approve of.
Correct. I don't approve of racism.
And it isn't racism. It's the acknowledgement of that church that many of
the black community's (you do believe in community, don't you, Fred?)
problems are not the creation of some "oppressor" but are the responsbility
of the black community itself to overcome.
It would be racist if any of this was intended at the expense of some other
race.
Further, I think such a value system IS situational. For a dominant race to
adopt a creed like this would be overtly racist. For a minority race to
adopt this - to make an explicit declaration of their intent to catch up and
to compete equally with the dominant race - is not.
Cinton is a Southern Baptist isnt she?
Is this the creed of Southern Baptists?
What do I win if I guess right?
8-)
Even the S-B's aren't that blatantly racist.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
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"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98DEE509DC022freddybear@194.177.96.26...
"Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote in
news:1172111118.839794.218530@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:
On Feb 22, 12:26 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources
for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and
embrace the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
Hmmm.... you have me intriqued.
I am guessing this is not Barack Obama
It is Barack Obama. I changed "Black" to "White".
It's got to be someone you dont approve of.
Correct. I don't approve of racism.
And it isn't racism. It's the acknowledgement of that church that
many of the black community's (you do believe in community, don't you,
Fred?)
I don't believe in vagueness about words like "commnunity". I don't
believe in Social Justice either.
problems are not the creation of some "oppressor" but are the
responsbility of the black community itself to overcome.
It's not a problem for the Community, it's a problem for the Individual
to overcome. I am not a Communist, I am an Individualist.
It would be racist if any of this was intended at the expense of some
other race.
But it is. Obama plays the race/victim card like a pro. He did it again
in his little tiff with Hillary.
Further, I think such a value system IS situational. For a dominant
race to adopt a creed like this would be overtly racist. For a
minority race to adopt this - to make an explicit declaration of their
intent to catch up and to compete equally with the dominant race - is
not.
That bit about "dominant" and "minority" races is itself racist. As long
as you insist that every problem is racial, racism will continue to be a
problem.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
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| User: "Richo" |
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22 Feb 2007 07:40:16 PM |
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On Feb 23, 2:00 am, "DH" <d...@stargate.com> wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fston...@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98DEE509DC022freddybear@194.177.96.26...
"Richo" <m.richard...@utas.edu.au> wrote in
news:1172111118.839794.218530@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:
On Feb 22, 12:26 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace
the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
Hmmm.... you have me intriqued.
I am guessing this is not Barack Obama
It is Barack Obama. I changed "Black" to "White".
It's got to be someone you dont approve of.
Correct. I don't approve of racism.
And it isn't racism. It's the acknowledgement of that church that many of
the black community's (you do believe in community, don't you, Fred?)
problems are not the creation of some "oppressor" but are the responsbility
of the black community itself to overcome.
I would say it is a kind of racism.
I agree it exists for perfectly understandable reasons and that it is
99% benign or positive.
In a perfect world there would be no need for "positive racism" - and
I think that is the ideal we should move towards.
It would be racist if any of this was intended at the expense of some other
race.
Further, I think such a value system IS situational. For a dominant race to
adopt a creed like this would be overtly racist. For a minority race to
adopt this - to make an explicit declaration of their intent to catch up and
to compete equally with the dominant race - is not.
It is still racist - just not in a altogether bad way.
(or its mostly positive and a just little bit bad)
You could say its racist in construction but not in intent.
Absolutists don't see shades of meaning - its "all or nothing"
thinking that appeals to fundamentalists and Fascists and Communists.
So I agree with Fred that it is technically racist - and I agree with
you that it is understandable and justifiable and largely a positive
rather than a negative.
Like I said in another post to Fred there is a differnce between the
"racism" that tells black people they can have hope for a future and
that their race isnt a sentence of doom and despair and the "racism"
that leads to genocide.
Well I can see a differnce - because I am not an absolutist.
Cheers, Mark
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| User: "G-Ride" |
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22 Feb 2007 12:05:29 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98DEE509DC022freddybear@194.177.96.26...
"Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote in
news:1172111118.839794.218530@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:
On Feb 22, 12:26 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace
the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
Hmmm.... you have me intriqued.
I am guessing this is not Barack Obama
It is Barack Obama. I changed "Black" to "White".
No you didn't Fred. You copied and pasted the whole thing.
Yet another Fred Stone lie.
--
Aloha, G-Ride
The force that's forcing you to feel like busting up a Starbucks.
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| User: "G-Ride" |
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22 Feb 2007 01:01:06 AM |
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"G-Ride" <gride42nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:544q5aF1un2p8U1@mid.individual.net...
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98DEE509DC022freddybear@194.177.96.26...
"Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote in
news:1172111118.839794.218530@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:
On Feb 22, 12:26 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace
the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
Hmmm.... you have me intriqued.
I am guessing this is not Barack Obama
It is Barack Obama. I changed "Black" to "White".
No you didn't Fred. You copied and pasted the whole thing.
Yet another Fred Stone lie.
And the link to the article Fred copied his post from:
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/rush/070221
Fred Stone graduates to plagiarism.
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Aloha, G-Ride
The force that's forcing you to feel like busting up a Starbucks.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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22 Feb 2007 06:42:07 AM |
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"G-Ride" <gride42nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in news:544tdjF1usa8oU1
@mid.individual.net:
"G-Ride" <gride42nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:544q5aF1un2p8U1@mid.individual.net...
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98DEE509DC022freddybear@194.177.96.26...
"Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote in
news:1172111118.839794.218530@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:
On Feb 22, 12:26 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
How many of you would vote for a presidential candidate who was
the
member of a church that professed the following credo?
1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the White Community
3. Commitment to the White Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills
available to the White Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources
for
Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and
embrace
the White Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.
Hmmm.... you have me intriqued.
I am guessing this is not Barack Obama
It is Barack Obama. I changed "Black" to "White".
No you didn't Fred. You copied and pasted the whole thing.
Yet another Fred Stone lie.
And the link to the article Fred copied his post from:
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/rush/070221
Fred Stone graduates to plagiarism.
G-Ride lies. I didn't get it from there.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
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