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"The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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15 Feb 2004 09:44:42 PM |
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A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST
TEACHER:>>>>GREETINGS CLASS>>>>>Today we will enter a boring facet of our
study of the diabolical disease of atheism. What I want each of you to do
today is to go to atheists you know and specifically challenge them to show
any kind of proof that the Almighty God DOES NOT exist. One of the things
atheists do is try to challenge true Christians to prove the existence of
God. So, your mission is to challenge them to prove the opposite. I want
some of you to enter ward "man is man made" and challenge Peter, PapaSam,
Marlene, Joette and etc. Then, if they should answer, I want you to pay
close attention to their answers. You will note that they (as well as all
others) will be unable to intelligently, specifically and truthfully answer
your challenge.>>>>>A challenge to the atheist: PROVE THE NON EXISTENCE OF
GOD BY WHATEVER MEANS YOU THINK YOU CAN!>>>>>CLASS DISMISSED.
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| User: "Maverick" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
16 Feb 2004 12:05:17 AM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
news:M0XXb.48$pM3.113116@news.uswest.net:
A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST
TEACHER:>>>>GREETINGS CLASS>>>>>Today we will enter a boring facet of
our study of the diabolical disease of atheism. What I want each of
you to do today is to go to atheists you know and specifically
challenge them to show any kind of proof that the Almighty God DOES
NOT exist. One of the things atheists do is try to challenge true
Christians to prove the existence of God. So, your mission is to
challenge them to prove the opposite.
And you want us to do this because you failed to provide evidence to
support YOUR claim that your god exists.
I want some of you to enter ward
"man is man made" and challenge Peter, PapaSam, Marlene, Joette and
etc. Then, if they should answer, I want you to pay close attention to
their answers. You will note that they (as well as all others) will be
unable to intelligently, specifically and truthfully answer your
challenge.>>>>>A challenge to the atheist: PROVE THE NON EXISTENCE OF
GOD BY WHATEVER MEANS YOU THINK YOU CAN!>>>>>CLASS DISMISSED.
Define god.
Oh, and btw, the burden of proof is on they who make the claim. If you
claim god exist, then give us evidence.
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
15 Feb 2004 10:42:48 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
news:M0XXb.48$pM3.113116@news.uswest.net:
A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST
TEACHER:>>>>GREETINGS CLASS>>>>>Today we will enter a boring facet of
our study of the diabolical disease of atheism. What I want each of
you to do today is to go to atheists you know and specifically
challenge them to show any kind of proof that the Almighty God DOES
NOT exist. One of the things atheists do is try to challenge true
Christians to prove the existence of God. So, your mission is to
challenge them to prove the opposite. I want some of you to enter ward
"man is man made" and challenge Peter, PapaSam, Marlene, Joette and
etc. Then, if they should answer, I want you to pay close attention to
their answers. You will note that they (as well as all others) will be
unable to intelligently, specifically and truthfully answer your
challenge.>>>>>A challenge to the atheist: PROVE THE NON EXISTENCE OF
GOD BY WHATEVER MEANS YOU THINK YOU CAN!>>>>>CLASS DISMISSED.
Easy.
1. Premise - god is omnibenevelolent, omnipotent & omniscient.
2. Observation: atheists exist.
3. Premise is thereby shown to be false. QED.
L.
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
16 Feb 2004 12:47:31 AM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
news:M0XXb.48$pM3.113116@news.uswest.net:
Subject: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST
No.
YOU CAN'T _HANDLE_ THE TRUTH!
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Brought to you by the letter 'H'
Without it, you'd be eating doug nuts.
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
15 Feb 2004 09:58:29 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
news:M0XXb.48$pM3.113116@news.uswest.net...
A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST
TEACHER:>>>>GREETINGS CLASS>>>>>Today we will enter a boring facet of our
study of the diabolical disease of atheism. What I want each of you to do
today is to go to atheists you know and specifically challenge them to
show
any kind of proof that the Almighty God DOES NOT exist. One of the things
atheists do is try to challenge true Christians to prove the existence of
God. So, your mission is to challenge them to prove the opposite. I want
some of you to enter ward "man is man made" and challenge Peter, PapaSam,
Marlene, Joette and etc. Then, if they should answer, I want you to pay
close attention to their answers. You will note that they (as well as all
others) will be unable to intelligently, specifically and truthfully
answer
your challenge.>>>>>A challenge to the atheist: PROVE THE NON EXISTENCE OF
GOD BY WHATEVER MEANS YOU THINK YOU CAN!>>>>>CLASS DISMISSED.
Christian claim: "God is everywhere."
<Donald looks at empty chair next to him....>
Nope. No God(tm). Damn, that was easy.....
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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| User: "W.Syme" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
15 Feb 2004 09:51:04 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 03:58:29 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yehaw2.com> wrote:
Christian claim: "God is everywhere."
<Donald looks at empty chair next to him....>
Nope. No God(tm). Damn, that was easy.....
But you don't understand though. He's invisible.
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
15 Feb 2004 10:05:09 PM |
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"W.Syme" <W.Syme.killspam@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:ead7b635a695c5d720acfbeec610d400@news.teranews.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 03:58:29 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yehaw2.com> wrote:
Christian claim: "God is everywhere."
<Donald looks at empty chair next to him....>
Nope. No God(tm). Damn, that was easy.....
But you don't understand though. He's invisible.
Possible smartassed answer #2:
So the pervert really *HAS* been watching me masturbate in the shower!!!
It was a toss-up.
-DMc
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
15 Feb 2004 10:03:51 PM |
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"W.Syme" <W.Syme.killspam@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:ead7b635a695c5d720acfbeec610d400@news.teranews.com...
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 03:58:29 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yehaw2.com> wrote:
Christian claim: "God is everywhere."
<Donald looks at empty chair next to him....>
Nope. No God(tm). Damn, that was easy.....
But you don't understand though. He's invisible.
Then He(tm) was gored to death by my Invisible Pink Unicorn. She handles my
light work....
-DMc
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| User: "A Mighty Fortress" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
19 Feb 2004 09:28:34 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
As a Christian, (correct me if I am wrong) but the atheists would
sooner be interested in proving the existence of Nurok, the one-eyed
Canadian Moose than respond to this post with anything other than
irritation.
As for the original poster, allow me to appologize for his/her blast
at the atheists. I bet he is really having you rethink your
viewpoints.--Hyuk hyuk (Please know that all Christians aren't like
that guy.)
Thanks.
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| User: "Adam Marczyk" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
20 Feb 2004 07:15:46 PM |
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A Mighty Fortress <bhoffman7@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:752bcfdd.0402191928.1c0b895b@posting.google.com...
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message
As a Christian, (correct me if I am wrong) but the atheists would
sooner be interested in proving the existence of Nurok, the one-eyed
Canadian Moose than respond to this post with anything other than
irritation.
As for the original poster, allow me to appologize for his/her blast
at the atheists. I bet he is really having you rethink your
viewpoints.--Hyuk hyuk (Please know that all Christians aren't like
that guy.)
Thanks.
Heh. Oh yes, he's converting us by the dozen. ;) But thanks for your
message - I'm sure most of us realize that not all Christians are crazy as
the ones we tend to get here, but it never hurts to be reminded.
--
"We have loved the stars too fondly | a.a. #2001
to be fearful of the night." | http://www.ebonmusings.org
--Tombstone epitaph of | e-mail: ebonmuse!hotmail.com
two amateur astronomers, | ICQ: 8777843
quoted in Carl Sagan's _Cosmos_ | PGP Key ID: 0x5C66F737
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| User: "Clothaire" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
21 Feb 2004 04:57:12 PM |
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 01:15:46 GMT, "Adam Marczyk"
<ebonmuse@deletethis.hotmail.com> wrote:
A Mighty Fortress <bhoffman7@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:752bcfdd.0402191928.1c0b895b@posting.google.com...
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in
message
As a Christian, (correct me if I am wrong) but the atheists would
sooner be interested in proving the existence of Nurok, the one-eyed
Canadian Moose than respond to this post with anything other than
irritation.
As for the original poster, allow me to appologize for his/her blast
at the atheists. I bet he is really having you rethink your
viewpoints.--Hyuk hyuk (Please know that all Christians aren't like
that guy.)
Thanks.
Heh. Oh yes, he's converting us by the dozen. ;) But thanks for your
message - I'm sure most of us realize that not all Christians are crazy as
the ones we tend to get here, but it never hurts to be reminded.
"The Church of The Painful Truth,' A.K.A Sinister, one of the most
persistent and obnoxious kooks ever to post to alt.atheism. He has
two pet themes: 1. PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST and 2. There is no
such thing as an atheist.
In this post he returns to theme #1. It is his position that the
existence of his god is so obvious that it is the responsibility of
non-believers to prove the negative. He also coined the phrase "The
subject genuinely under consideration is....' to force his opponent to
deny the subject, i.e, defend the negative. Note that he uses this
approach in this post when he digresses to Nurok.
You may not want to humor him because of the self-effacing remark he
makes about the first poster.
Clothaire#1392
"A learned fool is more foolish than an ignorant one." -Moliere
You may not want to humor
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
19 Feb 2004 11:53:29 PM |
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On 19 Feb 2004 19:28:34 -0800, (A Mighty
Fortress) wrote:
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
As a Christian, (correct me if I am wrong) but the atheists would
sooner be interested in proving the existence of Nurok, the one-eyed
Canadian Moose than respond to this post with anything other than
irritation.
As for the original poster, allow me to appologize for his/her blast
at the atheists. I bet he is really having you rethink your
viewpoints.--Hyuk hyuk (Please know that all Christians aren't like
that guy.)
We're used to him. He does this sort of thing every couple of months
or so. He's a miserable little troll who most often goes by the name
of Skywise, but he changes nics regularly because most of us have
killfiled his Skywise nym long ago.
Thanks.
"Religion is sort of like wearing lifts in your shoes. If
it makes you feel better about yourself, fine. I don't
have a problem with that. Just don't ask me to wear your
shoes."
~ George Carlin ~
aa #1898
BAAWA Keeper of the Holy Hand Grenade
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| User: "bluskie" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
19 Feb 2004 06:24:49 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<M0XXb.48$pM3.113116@news.uswest.net>...
A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST
using the same illogical logic of the theist, I can prove that god
doesn't exist...ready? here it is...proof that god doesn't exist.... I
have "faith" that god doesnt exist, therefore god doesn't exist.
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| User: "Ian Braidwood" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
16 Feb 2004 10:31:26 AM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<M0XXb.48$pM3.113116@news.uswest.net>...
A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST
TEACHER:>>>>GREETINGS CLASS>>>>>Today we will enter a boring facet
Two in one day, teacher? The Lord is going to especially pleased with you isn't He?
of our
study of the diabolical disease of atheism. What I want each of you to do
today is to go to atheists you know and specifically challenge them to show
any kind of proof that the Almighty God DOES NOT exist.
One of the things
atheists do is try to challenge true Christians to prove the existence of
God. So, your mission is to challenge them to prove the opposite. I want
some of you to enter ward "man is man made" and challenge Peter, PapaSam,
Marlene, Joette and etc. Then, if they should answer, I want you to pay
close attention to their answers. You will note that they (as well as all
others) will be unable to intelligently, specifically and truthfully answer
your challenge.>>>>>A challenge to the atheist: PROVE THE NON EXISTENCE OF
GOD BY WHATEVER MEANS YOU THINK YOU CAN!>>>>>CLASS DISMISSED.
Let's see if this is a fair question.
Christians: Can you prove to me that Ganesha doesn't exist?
Class dismissed.
(-: Ian :-)
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| User: "Billy Goat" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
16 Feb 2004 03:12:07 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<M0XXb.48$pM3.113116@news.uswest.net>...
A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST
TEACHER:>>>>GREETINGS CLASS>>>>>Today we will enter a boring facet of our
study of the diabolical disease of atheism.
<snip>
Do Christians usually mock people who have diseases? Or are you the only one?
--Billy
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| User: "Lawrence Seib" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
17 Feb 2004 01:13:31 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<M0XXb.48$pM3.113116@news.uswest.net>...
A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST
TEACHER:>>>>GREETINGS CLASS>>>>>Today we will enter a boring facet of our
study of the diabolical disease of atheism. What I want each of you to do
today is to go to atheists you know and specifically challenge them to show
any kind of proof that the Almighty God DOES NOT exist. One of the things
atheists do is try to challenge true Christians to prove the existence of
God. So, your mission is to challenge them to prove the opposite. I want
some of you to enter ward "man is man made" and challenge Peter, PapaSam,
Marlene, Joette and etc. Then, if they should answer, I want you to pay
close attention to their answers. You will note that they (as well as all
others) will be unable to intelligently, specifically and truthfully answer
your challenge.>>>>>A challenge to the atheist: PROVE THE NON EXISTENCE OF
GOD BY WHATEVER MEANS YOU THINK YOU CAN!>>>>>CLASS DISMISSED.
Easy
If something is defined in way that contradicts itself, then it
cannot exist.
Numbers 14:18
The LORD is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving
iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the
guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the
children unto the third and fourth
generation.
Right here we have an obvious contradiction.
God claimed to be of great mercy, yet
he punishes the great grand children for something
they did not do.
Conclusion, this God cannot exist.
Larry
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| User: "Roger Andrews" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
16 Feb 2004 09:23:05 AM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<M0XXb.48$pM3.113116@news.uswest.net>...
A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST
TEACHER:>>>>GREETINGS CLASS>>>>>Today we will enter a boring facet of our
study of the diabolical disease of atheism. What I want each of you to do
today is to go to atheists you know and specifically challenge them to show
any kind of proof that the Almighty God DOES NOT exist. One of the things
atheists do is try to challenge true Christians to prove the existence of
God. So, your mission is to challenge them to prove the opposite. I want
some of you to enter ward "man is man made" and challenge Peter, PapaSam,
Marlene, Joette and etc. Then, if they should answer, I want you to pay
close attention to their answers. You will note that they (as well as all
others) will be unable to intelligently, specifically and truthfully answer
your challenge.>>>>>A challenge to the atheist: PROVE THE NON EXISTENCE OF
GOD BY WHATEVER MEANS YOU THINK YOU CAN!>>>>>CLASS DISMISSED.
I don't need to prove that a god doesn't exist. I've never said that
one doesn't, I just have just had no reason to believe that one does.
If you have evidence of a god I'd be happy to see it.
Roger
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
17 Feb 2004 05:25:52 AM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
news:<M0XXb.48$pM3.113116@news.uswest.net>...
A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST
It was a Christian who put me on to the proof of no God.
The proof of no good God is trivial, but then this Christian pointed out that the dictionary
definition of God includes goodness and power.
From that we know for sure there is no God.
-Barry
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Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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| User: "Alan Hobson" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
20 Feb 2004 07:37:16 PM |
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message news:<M0XXb.48$pM3.113116@news.uswest.net>...
A challenge to Skywise:
Prove Santa doesn't exist.
-Alan
aa#1608 BAAWA
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| User: "SReeseMe" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
16 Feb 2004 05:53:27 AM |
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A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST
Dear Troll,
The burden of proof is on theists to prove their imaginary friend exists.
However, going by your skewed logic I have a project for you as well.
Please prove that Vishnu, Thor, Allah, etc do not exist and only your imaginary
friend exists.
-Stephen
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| User: "Steve Makohin" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
15 Feb 2004 10:52:11 PM |
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In article <M0XXb.48$pM3.113116@news.uswest.net>,
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST
TEACHER:>>>>GREETINGS CLASS>>>>>Today we will enter a boring facet of our
study of the diabolical disease of atheism. What I want each of you to do
today is to go to atheists you know and specifically challenge them to show
any kind of proof that the Almighty God DOES NOT exist. One of the things
atheists do is try to challenge true Christians to prove the existence of
God. So, your mission is to challenge them to prove the opposite. I want
some of you to enter ward "man is man made" and challenge Peter, PapaSam,
Marlene, Joette and etc. Then, if they should answer, I want you to pay
close attention to their answers. You will note that they (as well as all
others) will be unable to intelligently, specifically and truthfully answer
your challenge.>>>>>A challenge to the atheist: PROVE THE NON EXISTENCE OF
GOD BY WHATEVER MEANS YOU THINK YOU CAN!>>>>>CLASS DISMISSED.
I am typing this very slowly because I understand that you can't read
very quickly. I'm also going to explain this as though I was talking
to a six year old, just in case you are, either physically or
intellectually. The following passage is paraphrased from Carl Sagan's
outstanding book, "Demon Haunted World."
Billy says to his friend, Russ, "I have a fire-breathing dragon in my
garage." Billy and his buddy run over to Billy's house. Russ peers
into the garage.
"I don't see anything" Russ sighs with disappointment.
"Well he's in there, but you can't see him. He's invisible" explains
Billy.
Russ thinks for a second. "If we spread flour on the floor, we'll be
able to see his footprints. That'll be so cool!"
"No. He never leaves footprints" explains Billy. "You see, he's a
flying fire-breathing dragon."
Russ thinks again. "If I spray a cloud of paint into the air, then
we'll be able to see his shape as the paint sticks to his scales, even
though he's flying."
"No, that won't work either. Nothing sticks to his scales" explains
Billy in earnest.
Russ is stymied, then he suggests "How about if I use a thermometer to
sense the temperature increase as he breaths fire, or I wave a long
pole through the air. That's bound to hit him. And surely I'll be able
to feel the breeze as his wings flap as he is flying."
"No, that won't work either. You see, this fire breathing dragon does
not exist in the physical world. He is ethereal, so we cannot detect
him. But I assure you he is there, an invisible, flying, fire
breathing, ethereal dragon, just as real as I am, standing here beside
you."
It is wisely said: A difference that makes no difference, is no
difference. Nobody could prove that an invisible, flying, fire
breathing, ethereal dragon was not in Billy's garage. But it made no
difference if it was really there or not. So Russ decided not to
believe Billy's claim of the dragon.
For readers of this posting who would like to begin developing their
critical thinking skills, especially those who live in a demon-haunted
world (or a deity-blessed world, or a dragon-infested world), Carl
Sagan's book "Demon Haunted World" can be purchased at most book
stores. It is extremely useful in helping people learn how to discern
proven facts from things that are likely to be true, from things that
are likely to be false. Like penicillin, it is equally effective for
atheists and theists alike ;-) Best wishes in your development of your
own B.S. detector, and good luck in your demon haunted world.
-Steve Makohin | Reply to
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
15 Feb 2004 11:41:18 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 23:52:11 -0500, Steve Makohin
<smakohin@hotmail.com> wrote:
<significant snippage for brevity>
For readers of this posting who would like to begin developing their
critical thinking skills, especially those who live in a demon-haunted
world (or a deity-blessed world, or a dragon-infested world), Carl
Sagan's book "Demon Haunted World" can be purchased at most book
stores. It is extremely useful in helping people learn how to discern
proven facts from things that are likely to be true, from things that
are likely to be false. Like penicillin, it is equally effective for
atheists and theists alike ;-) Best wishes in your development of your
own B.S. detector,
That would be a "Baloney Detection Kit", IIRC... ;-)
and good luck in your demon haunted world.
I could not possibly agree more: "The Demon-Haunted World: Science As
A Candle In The Dark" is one of the best and most useful guides to
critical thinking ever written for the general public, and richly
deserves a place on everyone's bookshelf, especially the chapter
entitled "The Dragon In My Garage" (referenced by Steve in the section
that I snipped for brevity above). Absolutely essential reading for
atheists and theists alike.
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
16 Feb 2004 11:23:48 AM |
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raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message news:<ncm030t53fe1qe2q710dh4ahvhttkj4emd@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 23:52:11 -0500, Steve Makohin
<smakohin@hotmail.com> wrote:
<significant snippage for brevity>
For readers of this posting who would like to begin developing their
critical thinking skills, especially those who live in a demon-haunted
world (or a deity-blessed world, or a dragon-infested world), Carl
Sagan's book "Demon Haunted World" can be purchased at most book
stores. It is extremely useful in helping people learn how to discern
proven facts from things that are likely to be true, from things that
are likely to be false. Like penicillin, it is equally effective for
atheists and theists alike ;-) Best wishes in your development of your
own B.S. detector,
That would be a "Baloney Detection Kit", IIRC... ;-)
and good luck in your demon haunted world.
I could not possibly agree more: "The Demon-Haunted World: Science As
A Candle In The Dark" is one of the best and most useful guides to
critical thinking ever written for the general public, and richly
deserves a place on everyone's bookshelf, especially the chapter
entitled "The Dragon In My Garage" (referenced by Steve in the section
that I snipped for brevity above). Absolutely essential reading for
atheists and theists alike.
It is. This book should be in the drawer of every single hotel room
in the country. As soon as my kids are old enough they'll be reading
it.
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| User: "Lee Dimas" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
16 Feb 2004 02:41:00 AM |
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In article <M0XXb.48$pM3.113116@news.uswest.net>,
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST
TEACHER:>>>>GREETINGS CLASS>>>>>Today we will enter a boring facet of our
study of the diabolical disease of atheism. What I want each of you to do
today is to go to atheists you know and specifically challenge them to show
any kind of proof that the Almighty God DOES NOT exist. One of the things
atheists do is try to challenge true Christians to prove the existence of
God. So, your mission is to challenge them to prove the opposite. I want
some of you to enter ward "man is man made" and challenge Peter, PapaSam,
Marlene, Joette and etc. Then, if they should answer, I want you to pay
close attention to their answers. You will note that they (as well as all
others) will be unable to intelligently, specifically and truthfully answer
your challenge.>>>>>A challenge to the atheist: PROVE THE NON EXISTENCE OF
GOD BY WHATEVER MEANS YOU THINK YOU CAN!>>>>>CLASS DISMISSED.
Lack of significant spelling and grammatical errors: One point
All other categories (Originality, Lack of Fallacies, etc.): Zero points
Final score: 1 out of 10
Unfortunately, this is a failing score. Adjust your meds and try again.
Lee Dimas
aa#11101111001
Surely you can figure out my address.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
16 Feb 2004 12:16:35 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:44:42 -0700, a stranger
called by some "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
PROVE THE NON EXISTENCE OF
GOD BY WHATEVER MEANS YOU THINK YOU CAN!
In about an hour, I shall be walking to work. If there is a God, I
ask for the following.
As I pass the bus stop across the street, I will see three pennies on
the sidewalk, aligned with the crack in the pavement. The coins will
all be heads up, and be from (left to right) 1988, 1993, and 1972.
As I pick up the pennies, a goose will land in the parking lot next to
the bus stop and honk twice.
When I resume walking, the bus will come by. It's side destination
sign will be displaying the wrong route number.
There. If all these things happen, as I described them, I shall take
that as proof of God's existence. If they don't, I shall take it as
proof that God either does not exist, or is too weak to arrange even
the smallest demonstration.
None of these events are out of the question. I often see change on
the ground near the bus stop, the nearby lake and evaporation ponds
are home to many geese, and VTA busses have many out of order signs.
But the exact order and details of the events are so unlikely to
conform to the pre-written request as to put any idea of coincidence
out of the realm of reasonable possibility.
I shall post the results when I get home tonight.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
16 Feb 2004 07:29:38 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:16:35 GMT, a stranger
called by some Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> came
forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:44:42 -0700, a stranger
called by some "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
PROVE THE NON EXISTENCE OF
GOD BY WHATEVER MEANS YOU THINK YOU CAN!
In about an hour, I shall be walking to work. If there is a God, I
ask for the following.
As I pass the bus stop across the street, I will see three pennies on
the sidewalk, aligned with the crack in the pavement. The coins will
all be heads up, and be from (left to right) 1988, 1993, and 1972.
As I pick up the pennies, a goose will land in the parking lot next to
the bus stop and honk twice.
When I resume walking, the bus will come by. It's side destination
sign will be displaying the wrong route number.
There. If all these things happen, as I described them, I shall take
that as proof of God's existence. If they don't, I shall take it as
proof that God either does not exist, or is too weak to arrange even
the smallest demonstration.
None of these events are out of the question. I often see change on
the ground near the bus stop, the nearby lake and evaporation ponds
are home to many geese, and VTA busses have many out of order signs.
But the exact order and details of the events are so unlikely to
conform to the pre-written request as to put any idea of coincidence
out of the realm of reasonable possibility.
I shall post the results when I get home tonight.
Nothing. No pennies, no geese, no bus with a broken side destination
sign.
God has failed to prove existence to me.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
16 Feb 2004 08:56:26 PM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:qir230dr6va86ohsvsajan3t6sl71gsbse@4ax.com...
Lo, many moons past, on Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:16:35 GMT, a stranger
called by some Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> came
forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:44:42 -0700, a stranger
called by some "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
PROVE THE NON EXISTENCE OF
GOD BY WHATEVER MEANS YOU THINK YOU CAN!
In about an hour, I shall be walking to work. If there is a God, I
ask for the following.
As I pass the bus stop across the street, I will see three pennies on
the sidewalk, aligned with the crack in the pavement. The coins will
all be heads up, and be from (left to right) 1988, 1993, and 1972.
As I pick up the pennies, a goose will land in the parking lot next to
the bus stop and honk twice.
When I resume walking, the bus will come by. It's side destination
sign will be displaying the wrong route number.
There. If all these things happen, as I described them, I shall take
that as proof of God's existence. If they don't, I shall take it as
proof that God either does not exist, or is too weak to arrange even
the smallest demonstration.
None of these events are out of the question. I often see change on
the ground near the bus stop, the nearby lake and evaporation ponds
are home to many geese, and VTA busses have many out of order signs.
But the exact order and details of the events are so unlikely to
conform to the pre-written request as to put any idea of coincidence
out of the realm of reasonable possibility.
I shall post the results when I get home tonight.
Nothing. No pennies, no geese, no bus with a broken side destination
sign.
God has failed to prove existence to me.
And you even made it possible for "others to do the work of God(tm)"
Damn.....
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
17 Feb 2004 11:27:54 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Tue, 17 Feb 2004 02:56:26 GMT, a stranger
called by some "The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yehaw2.com> came
forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
Nothing. No pennies, no geese, no bus with a broken side destination
sign.
God has failed to prove existence to me.
And you even made it possible for "others to do the work of God(tm)"
Damn.....
Well, that would involve God(tm) telling them where I live, and where
I work. Also hijacking and vandalizing a VTA bus.
How they would handle the goose thing, is beyond me.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Martin Thomas" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
16 Feb 2004 11:12:18 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:44:42 -0700 in alt.atheism
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST
TEACHER:>>>>GREETINGS CLASS>>>>>Today we will enter a boring facet of our
study of the diabolical disease of atheism. What I want each of you to do
today is to go to atheists you know and specifically challenge them to show
any kind of proof that the Almighty God DOES NOT exist. One of the things
atheists do is try to challenge true Christians to prove the existence of
God. So, your mission is to challenge them to prove the opposite. I want
some of you to enter ward "man is man made" and challenge Peter, PapaSam,
Marlene, Joette and etc. Then, if they should answer, I want you to pay
close attention to their answers. You will note that they (as well as all
others) will be unable to intelligently, specifically and truthfully answer
your challenge.>>>>>A challenge to the atheist: PROVE THE NON EXISTENCE OF
GOD BY WHATEVER MEANS YOU THINK YOU CAN!>>>>>CLASS DISMISSED.
Many theists believe they can prove the existence of God.
Almost no atheists believe they can prove the non existence of
God.
So the atheist challenge "PROVE IT!!" gets lots of takers, but
your challenge "PROVE IT!!" might not get any.
So how come we are atheists even though we cannot prove that
there is no God or gods? If you do not know, then there is a gap
in YOUR understanding. We don't have a problem with it, since
most of us know why we are atheists.
Maybe you will never understand us.
That is your loss.
-
Martin Thomas
Official "Teddy Bear" Atheist
mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
15 Feb 2004 11:00:56 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:44:42 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
***** and die, moron.
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST |
15 Feb 2004 09:55:04 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:44:42 -0700, "The Church of The Painful Truth"
<Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
A CHALLENGE TO ATHEISTS: PROVE THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST
This is the logical fallacy of shifting the burden of proof. Atheists
have no more obligation to disprove any kind of "God" than we do to
disprove Santa Claus, unicorns, or nose goblins. Theists are the ones
making a claim; atheists just reject it as unsupported.
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