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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Nerd Gerl"
Date: 26 Feb 2004 02:26:29 AM
Object: A Conversation With John Popelish
John Popelish wrote in message <403DA47F.435CA3C7@rica.net>...

No. But what is a cosmic time scale?


Time it takes for cosmic events: stars forming and using up their
hydrogen and turning to white dwarfs or black holes, planets forming,
continents rearranging. That sort of thing. Many people talk about
having an eternal afterlife, but I can't imagine anything more
horrifying. I look forward to ending, someday.

Lol - well, according to my research - we just don't have much of a
choice. Thank goodness your memory is pretty well wiped so you don't
have to remember living over and over and over. You die - you think
you die. Good for you, eh?

In earth time? I don't care about dying anymore.

It is good to see someone who is taking responsibility for their

final

decision. Once a sentient being is certain of the eventuality of
their own death, this final decision should be seriously

considered.

Circumstances may take the choice of exactly when to die out of

your

hands, but that is no excuse for not doing any planning. Does

this

sound reasonable to you?


Of course!


Amazing. We have found something important we agree on.

Sir - you may have the wrong idea about me. A LOT of these goofballs
(I'm not calling you one) in alt.atheism have the wrong idea about me.
I do not belong to a religion. I saw angels. Then I remembered a bunch
of stuff that happened in the past (OBE's, future dreams, past lives,
etc.), and started to put 2 and 2 together. That's IT. I have 1/2 a
puzzle here with pieces that are missing. The puzzle I'm putting
together doesn't fit with religious people, nor with atheists.
My puzzle builds a picture that God exists - but does not know it's a
god - or even gives a damn. My puzzle is building a picture that
indicates we (earthlings, angels, aliens, whatever) are nothing more
than objects in ITS thoughts... "Constructs" somebody called them.
My puzzle is revealing that the "stuff" that keeps us alive is God's
creative energy. It's **using** us to work out issues in it's own
mind. When it's done, we're discarded - left on our own. We die - we
turn back into mere brain matter until God figures we could serve as
one of his problem solvers again. (Hence - past lives).
That is what I think. So I don't know what you have in mind when
you're talking to me.

Do you have expectations of an afterlife?


It's not an expectation for me. It's just a matter of fact.


Your certainty is foreign to me. After the Sun comes up each morning
and my trusty motorcycle starts, most everything else is up for
grabs. ;-)

You mean you've never had a dream (literally) come true??

I wonder why people can't bring themselves to refer to it as
afterdeath.


Because of evidence of future and past lives, there is no such

thing as

death. Human Death is really just shedding the body - Like lizards

do.


I haven't seen that evidence. So I assume death will be the end of
the cooperative existence of the cluster of cloned cells known as

John

Popelish. But the ride is pretty thrilling while it lasts.

R U in alt.atheist


I am reading your posts in alt.atheism if that is what you mean.


Ok. I'll cut out the other newsgroups.


Oldwetdog will be relieved.

Oldwetdog can kiss my...

John Popelish

.

User: "John Popelish"

Title: Re: A Conversation With John Popelish 26 Feb 2004 10:52:02 AM
Nerd Gerl wrote:


John Popelish wrote in message <403DA47F.435CA3C7@rica.net>...

(snip)

Amazing. We have found something important we agree on.


Sir - you may have the wrong idea about me. A LOT of these goofballs
(I'm not calling you one) in alt.atheism have the wrong idea about me.

That happens a lot when first meetings involve an emotional topic.

I do not belong to a religion. I saw angels. Then I remembered a bunch
of stuff that happened in the past (OBE's, future dreams, past lives,
etc.), and started to put 2 and 2 together. That's IT. I have 1/2 a
puzzle here with pieces that are missing. The puzzle I'm putting
together doesn't fit with religious people, nor with atheists.

A person has to go with the experiences they have actually had, not
with those other people have. Unfortunately, if you have experiences
that are very different than what other people have had, and you
communicate them, you risk being perceived as not just interesting but
weird or even insane. I guess, if you get a negative reaction there
is little point in trying to convince others who have not had your
experiences that yours are as valid as theirs. As the Ferengi might
say, there is little profit in it.

My puzzle builds a picture that God exists - but does not know it's a
god - or even gives a damn. My puzzle is building a picture that
indicates we (earthlings, angels, aliens, whatever) are nothing more
than objects in ITS thoughts... "Constructs" somebody called them.

My puzzle is revealing that the "stuff" that keeps us alive is God's
creative energy. It's **using** us to work out issues in it's own
mind.

Sounds like the reason the Earth was created in The Hitchhikers Guide
to the Galaxy. The computation had almost run to completion when the
Vogons blew it up. Not taking you lightly, just thinking of other
examples of similar ideas.

When it's done, we're discarded - left on our own. We die - we
turn back into mere brain matter until God figures we could serve as
one of his problem solvers again. (Hence - past lives).

That is what I think. So I don't know what you have in mind when
you're talking to me.

I had very little preconception of your mind, except that I saw you
reacting to combat with combat. I saw you being characterized as just
another troll invading alt.atheism, but I was pretty sure they were
jumping to conclusions.

Do you have expectations of an afterlife?


It's not an expectation for me. It's just a matter of fact.


Your certainty is foreign to me. After the Sun comes up each morning
and my trusty motorcycle starts, most everything else is up for
grabs. ;-)


You mean you've never had a dream (literally) come true??

I mean that I make very few assumptions about what is going to happen,
or try to. I have lots of dreams but they are more like science
fiction movies than anything that could actually happen. Many
mornings, I just wonder how all that strange stuff fits in there along
with my waking mind.

(snip)

Ok. I'll cut out the other newsgroups.


Oldwetdog will be relieved.


Oldwetdog can kiss my...

I think you might fit into the alt.atheism crowd better than you or
they realize, once they get to know you and vice versa. The regulars
hold a wide variety of beliefs and attitudes. Some of the discussions
range all over the place. When I get tired of work, I browse there
for interesting topics and people.
--
John Popelish
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