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18 Jan 2008 12:50:06 AM |
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A Creation Museum Going Out of Business Sale |
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
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Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction of a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
Heritage Auction Galleries says the skull is estimated to be 40,000
years old, and projects it will fetch upward of $160,000. The artifact
discovered in La Grange in 2004 is believed to be the largest of its
kind, Heritage spokesman David Herskowitz said.
The auction will be held Sunday in Dallas, with bids accepted on the
Internet until Saturday night.
"We're trying to reach out to someone who would buy it, then reach out
to a museum in Texas," Herskowitz said.
Taylor said he would love to keep the skull of the elephant-like mammal
as the centerpiece of his tiny museum just outside Lubbock, which
includes creationist exhibits.
Claims on the museum's Web site include that Noah took dinosaurs aboard
his ark. The prevailing scientific wisdom is that humans and dinosaurs
missed each other by tens of millions of years.
Taylor said he's been financially crippled by about $136,000 he's been
ordered to pay in a legal dispute over finder's rights to an Allosaurus
skeleton unearthed in Colorado. About $141,000 has also been put into
the mastodon skull's restoration, he said.
If the mastodon auction doesn't cover the judgment, Taylor said local
authorities will seize his 10-year-old museum and sell off its contents
in February.
"We've struggled so long here just to keep this thing going," Taylor
said. "We're kind of losing interest. You can just tread water for so
long."
The Heritage auction will also include other natural history items,
including a 26-pound gold nugget found in Mexico that is expected to
fetch at least $1 million.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080118/ap_on_re_us/mastodon_auction_2
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John #1782
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| User: "JTEM" |
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18 Jan 2008 01:02:35 AM |
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johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Claims on the museum's Web site include that Noah took
dinosaurs aboard his ark. The prevailing scientific wisdom
is that humans and dinosaurs missed each other by tens
of millions of years.
"Prevailing," huh?
That's the word you might use if a sizeable minority disagreed
or was uncertain...
Anyway, the best strategy would be to not bid. If the skull
doesn't sell, the museum closes and the entire collection
goes on the block.
That'll give you your best shot at a low price.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: A Creation Museum Going Out of Business Sale |
19 Jan 2008 01:57:01 AM |
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In article
<89bc5ceb-9d4b-4e80-9e0e-fd794c1b1fd5@21g2000hsj.googlegroups.com>,
JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Claims on the museum's Web site include that Noah took
dinosaurs aboard his ark. The prevailing scientific wisdom
is that humans and dinosaurs missed each other by tens
of millions of years.
"Prevailing," huh?
That's the word you might use if a sizeable minority disagreed
or was uncertain...
Anyway, the best strategy would be to not bid. If the skull
doesn't sell, the museum closes and the entire collection
goes on the block.
That'll give you your best shot at a low price.
I'd rather see the fossils at a normal museum or university so real
scientists could study them.
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John #1782
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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19 Jan 2008 12:44:34 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-33CE07.22500617012008@news.giganews.com...
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
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Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction of a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
Heritage Auction Galleries says the skull is estimated to be 40,000
years old, and projects it will fetch upward of $160,000. The artifact
discovered in La Grange in 2004 is believed to be the largest of its
kind, Heritage spokesman David Herskowitz said.
The auction will be held Sunday in Dallas, with bids accepted on the
Internet until Saturday night.
"We're trying to reach out to someone who would buy it, then reach out
to a museum in Texas," Herskowitz said.
Taylor said he would love to keep the skull of the elephant-like mammal
as the centerpiece of his tiny museum just outside Lubbock, which
includes creationist exhibits.
Claims on the museum's Web site include that Noah took dinosaurs aboard
his ark. The prevailing scientific wisdom is that humans and dinosaurs
missed each other by tens of millions of years.
Taylor said he's been financially crippled by about $136,000 he's been
ordered to pay in a legal dispute over finder's rights to an Allosaurus
skeleton unearthed in Colorado. About $141,000 has also been put into
the mastodon skull's restoration, he said.
If the mastodon auction doesn't cover the judgment, Taylor said local
authorities will seize his 10-year-old museum and sell off its contents
in February.
"We've struggled so long here just to keep this thing going," Taylor
said. "We're kind of losing interest. You can just tread water for so
long."
The Heritage auction will also include other natural history items,
including a 26-pound gold nugget found in Mexico that is expected to
fetch at least $1 million.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080118/ap_on_re_us/mastodon_auction_2
I love the part about them losing interest. Oh, they
of little faith!
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BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
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When fascism comes to America, it will be
wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross -
Sinclair Lewis
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John #1782
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| User: "johac" |
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20 Jan 2008 12:04:47 AM |
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In article <fsmdnQsTdPjPAQzanZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-33CE07.22500617012008@news.giganews.com...
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
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Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction of a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
Heritage Auction Galleries says the skull is estimated to be 40,000
years old, and projects it will fetch upward of $160,000. The artifact
discovered in La Grange in 2004 is believed to be the largest of its
kind, Heritage spokesman David Herskowitz said.
The auction will be held Sunday in Dallas, with bids accepted on the
Internet until Saturday night.
"We're trying to reach out to someone who would buy it, then reach out
to a museum in Texas," Herskowitz said.
Taylor said he would love to keep the skull of the elephant-like mammal
as the centerpiece of his tiny museum just outside Lubbock, which
includes creationist exhibits.
Claims on the museum's Web site include that Noah took dinosaurs aboard
his ark. The prevailing scientific wisdom is that humans and dinosaurs
missed each other by tens of millions of years.
Taylor said he's been financially crippled by about $136,000 he's been
ordered to pay in a legal dispute over finder's rights to an Allosaurus
skeleton unearthed in Colorado. About $141,000 has also been put into
the mastodon skull's restoration, he said.
If the mastodon auction doesn't cover the judgment, Taylor said local
authorities will seize his 10-year-old museum and sell off its contents
in February.
"We've struggled so long here just to keep this thing going," Taylor
said. "We're kind of losing interest. You can just tread water for so
long."
The Heritage auction will also include other natural history items,
including a 26-pound gold nugget found in Mexico that is expected to
fetch at least $1 million.
---
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080118/ap_on_re_us/mastodon_auction_2
I love the part about them losing interest. Oh, they
of little faith!
And losing principal too. It's clear that they are in it for the money
scamming it from the gullible.
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John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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19 Jan 2008 02:11:26 AM |
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:44:34 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-33CE07.22500617012008@news.giganews.com...
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
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Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction of a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
Heritage Auction Galleries says the skull is estimated to be 40,000
years old, and projects it will fetch upward of $160,000. The artifact
discovered in La Grange in 2004 is believed to be the largest of its
kind, Heritage spokesman David Herskowitz said.
The auction will be held Sunday in Dallas, with bids accepted on the
Internet until Saturday night.
"We're trying to reach out to someone who would buy it, then reach out
to a museum in Texas," Herskowitz said.
Taylor said he would love to keep the skull of the elephant-like mammal
as the centerpiece of his tiny museum just outside Lubbock, which
includes creationist exhibits.
Claims on the museum's Web site include that Noah took dinosaurs aboard
his ark. The prevailing scientific wisdom is that humans and dinosaurs
missed each other by tens of millions of years.
Taylor said he's been financially crippled by about $136,000 he's been
ordered to pay in a legal dispute over finder's rights to an Allosaurus
skeleton unearthed in Colorado. About $141,000 has also been put into
the mastodon skull's restoration, he said.
If the mastodon auction doesn't cover the judgment, Taylor said local
authorities will seize his 10-year-old museum and sell off its contents
in February.
"We've struggled so long here just to keep this thing going," Taylor
said. "We're kind of losing interest. You can just tread water for so
long."
The Heritage auction will also include other natural history items,
including a 26-pound gold nugget found in Mexico that is expected to
fetch at least $1 million.
---
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080118/ap_on_re_us/mastodon_auction_2
I love the part about them losing interest. Oh, they
of little faith!
Perhap they were referring to their dwindling bank balances?
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| User: "kingdoodlesquat" |
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18 Jan 2008 08:08:20 AM |
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"We've struggled so long here just to keep this thing going," Taylor
said. "We're kind of losing interest. You can just tread water for so
long."
So they've struggled for such a long time to stay afloat, but no one is
interested in their museum. You think they'd get the message that their
particular brand of religious horseshit isn't believed except by those few
deluded fools. I hope they go under.
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| User: "johac" |
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19 Jan 2008 01:53:02 AM |
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In article <Vb-dnZfiGMNFLw3anZ2dnUVZ8tmhnZ2d@bt.com>,
"kingdoodlesquat" <neggerscheggers@negatseacatspam.com> wrote:
"We've struggled so long here just to keep this thing going," Taylor
said. "We're kind of losing interest. You can just tread water for so
long."
So they've struggled for such a long time to stay afloat, but no one is
interested in their museum. You think they'd get the message that their
particular brand of religious horseshit isn't believed except by those few
deluded fools. I hope they go under.
Exactly. It looked like a fly by night operation anyway.
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John #1782
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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18 Jan 2008 02:09:34 AM |
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On Jan 18, 7:50 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
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Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction of a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
Heritage Auction Galleries says the skull is estimated to be 40,000
years old, and projects it will fetch upward of $160,000. The artifact
discovered in La Grange in 2004 is believed to be the largest of its
kind, Heritage spokesman David Herskowitz said.
Impossible. Must be a fake. It can't be older than 6011 years
right. ;-)
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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18 Jan 2008 06:49:08 AM |
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"Llanzlan Klazmon" <bill.m.thomas@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b837cd58-14d2-444f-8286-634a52362d39@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 18, 7:50 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
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Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction of a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
Heritage Auction Galleries says the skull is estimated to be 40,000
years old, and projects it will fetch upward of $160,000. The artifact
discovered in La Grange in 2004 is believed to be the largest of its
kind, Heritage spokesman David Herskowitz said.
Impossible. Must be a fake. It can't be older than 6011 years
right. ;-)
Good one! But you just *know* that the Intelligent Design people are going
to come up with a precise 'scientific' method for assigning it a 6011,
'young earth', date -- give or take a couple of weeks for the margin of
error.
Oh that's right; no need for scientific dating of the skull. We've got the
bible and all that 'begatting' to determine the precise date of the skull,
don't we?
Greywolf
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| User: "johac" |
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19 Jan 2008 01:54:43 AM |
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In article
<b837cd58-14d2-444f-8286-634a52362d39@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
Llanzlan Klazmon <bill.m.thomas@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 18, 7:50 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
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Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction of a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
Heritage Auction Galleries says the skull is estimated to be 40,000
years old, and projects it will fetch upward of $160,000. The artifact
discovered in La Grange in 2004 is believed to be the largest of its
kind, Heritage spokesman David Herskowitz said.
Impossible. Must be a fake. It can't be older than 6011 years
right. ;-)
They'd probably argue that the methods used to determine it's age were
compromised by the devil to deceive us.
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John #1782
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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18 Jan 2008 12:22:33 PM |
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Llanzlan Klazmon wrote:
On Jan 18, 7:50 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
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Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction
of a prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder
and curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution
and claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close
unless the Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
Heritage Auction Galleries says the skull is estimated to be 40,000
years old, and projects it will fetch upward of $160,000. The
artifact discovered in La Grange in 2004 is believed to be the
largest of its kind, Heritage spokesman David Herskowitz said.
Impossible. Must be a fake. It can't be older than 6011 years
right. ;-)
Right.
So the Christian, being honest, will not sell the skull since it's value is
based on it being far older than possible.
No True Christian would do something that dishonest.
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| User: "Liz" |
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18 Jan 2008 06:00:56 AM |
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:09:34 -0800 (PST), Llanzlan Klazmon
<bill.m.thomas@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 18, 7:50 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
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Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction of a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
Heritage Auction Galleries says the skull is estimated to be 40,000
years old, and projects it will fetch upward of $160,000. The artifact
discovered in La Grange in 2004 is believed to be the largest of its
kind, Heritage spokesman David Herskowitz said.
Impossible. Must be a fake. It can't be older than 6011 years
right. ;-)
Now that's funny.
Liz #658 BAAWA
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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18 Jan 2008 04:32:30 PM |
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
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Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction of a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
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| User: "johac" |
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19 Jan 2008 01:51:36 AM |
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In article <b7a2p3580juc91bdjclf26trjo9gvc9dte@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
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Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction of a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
I hope not too, although a real museum could make much better use of it.
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John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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19 Jan 2008 02:09:26 AM |
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On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:51:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <b7a2p3580juc91bdjclf26trjo9gvc9dte@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
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Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction of a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
I hope not too, although a real museum could make much better use of it.
It really b'longs to the country, or even the world, given it's
status.
Such artifacts should not remain the sole preserve of feckless
individuals or profit-seeking corporations.
They belong to the common weal.
(How's that for old fashioned talk?!)
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| User: "johac" |
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20 Jan 2008 12:01:57 AM |
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In article <bsb3p314rlq2ahq4a2lm4g2kjfuda2vg4o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:51:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <b7a2p3580juc91bdjclf26trjo9gvc9dte@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
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Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction of a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
I hope not too, although a real museum could make much better use of it.
It really b'longs to the country, or even the world, given it's
status.
Such artifacts should not remain the sole preserve of feckless
individuals or profit-seeking corporations.
They belong to the common weal.
(How's that for old fashioned talk?!)
Makes sense to me. "The commons" is an expression heard a lot among
progressive groups in this country who object to the transfer of what
belongs or should belong to all of us to the rich by our corrupt
government.
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John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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20 Jan 2008 12:09:59 AM |
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On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:01:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <bsb3p314rlq2ahq4a2lm4g2kjfuda2vg4o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:51:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <b7a2p3580juc91bdjclf26trjo9gvc9dte@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
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Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction of a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
I hope not too, although a real museum could make much better use of it.
It really b'longs to the country, or even the world, given it's
status.
Such artifacts should not remain the sole preserve of feckless
individuals or profit-seeking corporations.
They belong to the common weal.
(How's that for old fashioned talk?!)
Makes sense to me. "The commons" is an expression heard a lot among
progressive groups in this country who object to the transfer of what
belongs or should belong to all of us to the rich by our corrupt
government.
I meant the "weal" bit.
Not commonly used since the 17th century.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: A Creation Museum Going Out of Business Sale |
20 Jan 2008 10:58:01 PM |
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In article <mcp5p3lpd8knjimip5dil9g2olknticanb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:01:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <bsb3p314rlq2ahq4a2lm4g2kjfuda2vg4o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:51:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <b7a2p3580juc91bdjclf26trjo9gvc9dte@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
---
Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction of
a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
I hope not too, although a real museum could make much better use of it.
It really b'longs to the country, or even the world, given it's
status.
Such artifacts should not remain the sole preserve of feckless
individuals or profit-seeking corporations.
They belong to the common weal.
(How's that for old fashioned talk?!)
Makes sense to me. "The commons" is an expression heard a lot among
progressive groups in this country who object to the transfer of what
belongs or should belong to all of us to the rich by our corrupt
government.
I meant the "weal" bit.
Not commonly used since the 17th century.
We still use "commonwealth" Some lf our states such as Massachusetts,
Virginia, and Kentucky style themselves as "commonwealths". I believe
that there are a few others.
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: A Creation Museum Going Out of Business Sale |
20 Jan 2008 11:15:16 PM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9984EF.20580120012008@news.giganews.com...
In article <mcp5p3lpd8knjimip5dil9g2olknticanb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:01:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <bsb3p314rlq2ahq4a2lm4g2kjfuda2vg4o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:51:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <b7a2p3580juc91bdjclf26trjo9gvc9dte@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
---
Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction
of
a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder
and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution
and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless
the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor
said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
I hope not too, although a real museum could make much better use of
it.
It really b'longs to the country, or even the world, given it's
status.
Such artifacts should not remain the sole preserve of feckless
individuals or profit-seeking corporations.
They belong to the common weal.
(How's that for old fashioned talk?!)
Makes sense to me. "The commons" is an expression heard a lot among
progressive groups in this country who object to the transfer of what
belongs or should belong to all of us to the rich by our corrupt
government.
I meant the "weal" bit.
Not commonly used since the 17th century.
We still use "commonwealth" Some lf our states such as Massachusetts,
Virginia, and Kentucky style themselves as "commonwealths". I believe
that there are a few others.
Pennsylvania!
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
When fascism comes to America, it will be
wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross -
Sinclair Lewis
--
John #1782
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: A Creation Museum Going Out of Business Sale |
22 Jan 2008 12:06:44 AM |
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In article <udOdnX_0GffCtwnanZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9984EF.20580120012008@news.giganews.com...
In article <mcp5p3lpd8knjimip5dil9g2olknticanb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:01:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <bsb3p314rlq2ahq4a2lm4g2kjfuda2vg4o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:51:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <b7a2p3580juc91bdjclf26trjo9gvc9dte@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
---
Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction
of
a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder
and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution
and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless
the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor
said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
I hope not too, although a real museum could make much better use of
it.
It really b'longs to the country, or even the world, given it's
status.
Such artifacts should not remain the sole preserve of feckless
individuals or profit-seeking corporations.
They belong to the common weal.
(How's that for old fashioned talk?!)
Makes sense to me. "The commons" is an expression heard a lot among
progressive groups in this country who object to the transfer of what
belongs or should belong to all of us to the rich by our corrupt
government.
I meant the "weal" bit.
Not commonly used since the 17th century.
We still use "commonwealth" Some lf our states such as Massachusetts,
Virginia, and Kentucky style themselves as "commonwealths". I believe
that there are a few others.
Pennsylvania!
Yep. Forgot that one. May William Penn forgive me!
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: A Creation Museum Going Out of Business Sale |
21 Jan 2008 01:57:40 AM |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:15:16 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-9984EF.20580120012008@news.giganews.com...
In article <mcp5p3lpd8knjimip5dil9g2olknticanb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:01:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <bsb3p314rlq2ahq4a2lm4g2kjfuda2vg4o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:51:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <b7a2p3580juc91bdjclf26trjo9gvc9dte@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
---
Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction
of
a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder
and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution
and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless
the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor
said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
I hope not too, although a real museum could make much better use of
it.
It really b'longs to the country, or even the world, given it's
status.
Such artifacts should not remain the sole preserve of feckless
individuals or profit-seeking corporations.
They belong to the common weal.
(How's that for old fashioned talk?!)
Makes sense to me. "The commons" is an expression heard a lot among
progressive groups in this country who object to the transfer of what
belongs or should belong to all of us to the rich by our corrupt
government.
I meant the "weal" bit.
Not commonly used since the 17th century.
We still use "commonwealth" Some lf our states such as Massachusetts,
Virginia, and Kentucky style themselves as "commonwealths". I believe
that there are a few others.
Pennsylvania!
Glen Miller - Pennsylvania 6-5000!
<http://web.newsguy.com/MichaelGray/Atheist/GlennMiller-Pennsylvania_6-5000.mp3>
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: A Creation Museum Going Out of Business Sale |
21 Jan 2008 01:46:45 AM |
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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:58:01 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <mcp5p3lpd8knjimip5dil9g2olknticanb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:01:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <bsb3p314rlq2ahq4a2lm4g2kjfuda2vg4o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:51:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <b7a2p3580juc91bdjclf26trjo9gvc9dte@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
---
Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction of
a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
I hope not too, although a real museum could make much better use of it.
It really b'longs to the country, or even the world, given it's
status.
Such artifacts should not remain the sole preserve of feckless
individuals or profit-seeking corporations.
They belong to the common weal.
(How's that for old fashioned talk?!)
Makes sense to me. "The commons" is an expression heard a lot among
progressive groups in this country who object to the transfer of what
belongs or should belong to all of us to the rich by our corrupt
government.
I meant the "weal" bit.
Not commonly used since the 17th century.
We still use "commonwealth" Some lf our states such as Massachusetts,
Virginia, and Kentucky style themselves as "commonwealths". I believe
that there are a few others.
I understand that.
I was referring to the archaic "weal", as opposed to "wealth".
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: A Creation Museum Going Out of Business Sale |
22 Jan 2008 12:05:05 AM |
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In article <cdj8p3pggs6j7gvbdodvsfrpetmm8l64lp@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:58:01 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <mcp5p3lpd8knjimip5dil9g2olknticanb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:01:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <bsb3p314rlq2ahq4a2lm4g2kjfuda2vg4o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:51:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <b7a2p3580juc91bdjclf26trjo9gvc9dte@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
---
Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction
of
a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution
and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless
the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
I hope not too, although a real museum could make much better use of
it.
It really b'longs to the country, or even the world, given it's
status.
Such artifacts should not remain the sole preserve of feckless
individuals or profit-seeking corporations.
They belong to the common weal.
(How's that for old fashioned talk?!)
Makes sense to me. "The commons" is an expression heard a lot among
progressive groups in this country who object to the transfer of what
belongs or should belong to all of us to the rich by our corrupt
government.
I meant the "weal" bit.
Not commonly used since the 17th century.
We still use "commonwealth" Some lf our states such as Massachusetts,
Virginia, and Kentucky style themselves as "commonwealths". I believe
that there are a few others.
I understand that.
I was referring to the archaic "weal", as opposed to "wealth".
The Merriam Webster online dictionary has two entries for "weal":
1weal
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English wele, from Old English wela; akin to Old English wel
well
Date:
before 12th century
1: a sound, healthy, or prosperous state : well-being
2: obsolete : body politic commonweal
---
2weal
Function:
noun
Etymology:
alteration of wale
Date:
circa 1798
1: welt
---
I assumed that you meant meaning 2 of the first entry. I always thought
that the "wealth" in "commonwealth" meant good which is similar. I would
think that the two meanings would have a similar derivation.
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: A Creation Museum Going Out of Business Sale |
22 Jan 2008 12:10:13 AM |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:05:05 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <cdj8p3pggs6j7gvbdodvsfrpetmm8l64lp@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:58:01 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <mcp5p3lpd8knjimip5dil9g2olknticanb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:01:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <bsb3p314rlq2ahq4a2lm4g2kjfuda2vg4o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:51:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <b7a2p3580juc91bdjclf26trjo9gvc9dte@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
---
Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the auction
of
a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution
and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close unless
the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
I hope not too, although a real museum could make much better use of
it.
It really b'longs to the country, or even the world, given it's
status.
Such artifacts should not remain the sole preserve of feckless
individuals or profit-seeking corporations.
They belong to the common weal.
(How's that for old fashioned talk?!)
Makes sense to me. "The commons" is an expression heard a lot among
progressive groups in this country who object to the transfer of what
belongs or should belong to all of us to the rich by our corrupt
government.
I meant the "weal" bit.
Not commonly used since the 17th century.
We still use "commonwealth" Some lf our states such as Massachusetts,
Virginia, and Kentucky style themselves as "commonwealths". I believe
that there are a few others.
I understand that.
I was referring to the archaic "weal", as opposed to "wealth".
The Merriam Webster online dictionary has two entries for "weal":
1weal
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English wele, from Old English wela; akin to Old English wel
well
Date:
before 12th century
1: a sound, healthy, or prosperous state : well-being
2: obsolete : body politic commonweal
---
2weal
Function:
noun
Etymology:
alteration of wale
Date:
circa 1798
1: welt
---
I assumed that you meant meaning 2 of the first entry.
100% correct!
I always thought
that the "wealth" in "commonwealth" meant good which is similar. I would
think that the two meanings would have a similar derivation.
It derives from an E.O. phrase meaning the "common or global resource
health", or thereabout.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: A Creation Museum Going Out of Business Sale |
22 Jan 2008 11:31:13 PM |
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|
In article <h02bp3hk4v2aulued0q7tllcc5vgdtpvor@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:05:05 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <cdj8p3pggs6j7gvbdodvsfrpetmm8l64lp@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:58:01 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <mcp5p3lpd8knjimip5dil9g2olknticanb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:01:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <bsb3p314rlq2ahq4a2lm4g2kjfuda2vg4o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:51:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <b7a2p3580juc91bdjclf26trjo9gvc9dte@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
---
Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the
auction
of
a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder
and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution
and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close
unless
the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor
said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
I hope not too, although a real museum could make much better use
of
it.
It really b'longs to the country, or even the world, given it's
status.
Such artifacts should not remain the sole preserve of feckless
individuals or profit-seeking corporations.
They belong to the common weal.
(How's that for old fashioned talk?!)
Makes sense to me. "The commons" is an expression heard a lot among
progressive groups in this country who object to the transfer of what
belongs or should belong to all of us to the rich by our corrupt
government.
I meant the "weal" bit.
Not commonly used since the 17th century.
We still use "commonwealth" Some lf our states such as Massachusetts,
Virginia, and Kentucky style themselves as "commonwealths". I believe
that there are a few others.
I understand that.
I was referring to the archaic "weal", as opposed to "wealth".
The Merriam Webster online dictionary has two entries for "weal":
1weal
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English wele, from Old English wela; akin to Old English wel
well
Date:
before 12th century
1: a sound, healthy, or prosperous state : well-being
2: obsolete : body politic commonweal
---
2weal
Function:
noun
Etymology:
alteration of wale
Date:
circa 1798
1: welt
---
I assumed that you meant meaning 2 of the first entry.
100% correct!
I always thought
that the "wealth" in "commonwealth" meant good which is similar. I would
think that the two meanings would have a similar derivation.
It derives from an E.O. phrase meaning the "common or global resource
health", or thereabout.
That is the meaning I usually take it to mean. Of course in Bushtopia,
there is very little common wealth. All the wealth is in the hands of
Bush's uncommonly wealthy friends.
--
John #1782
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: A Creation Museum Going Out of Business Sale |
23 Jan 2008 12:48:19 AM |
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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:31:13 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <h02bp3hk4v2aulued0q7tllcc5vgdtpvor@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:05:05 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <cdj8p3pggs6j7gvbdodvsfrpetmm8l64lp@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:58:01 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <mcp5p3lpd8knjimip5dil9g2olknticanb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:01:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <bsb3p314rlq2ahq4a2lm4g2kjfuda2vg4o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:51:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <b7a2p3580juc91bdjclf26trjo9gvc9dte@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
---
Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the
auction
of
a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The founder
and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects evolution
and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close
unless
the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor
said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
I hope not too, although a real museum could make much better use
of
it.
It really b'longs to the country, or even the world, given it's
status.
Such artifacts should not remain the sole preserve of feckless
individuals or profit-seeking corporations.
They belong to the common weal.
(How's that for old fashioned talk?!)
Makes sense to me. "The commons" is an expression heard a lot among
progressive groups in this country who object to the transfer of what
belongs or should belong to all of us to the rich by our corrupt
government.
I meant the "weal" bit.
Not commonly used since the 17th century.
We still use "commonwealth" Some lf our states such as Massachusetts,
Virginia, and Kentucky style themselves as "commonwealths". I believe
that there are a few others.
I understand that.
I was referring to the archaic "weal", as opposed to "wealth".
The Merriam Webster online dictionary has two entries for "weal":
1weal
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English wele, from Old English wela; akin to Old English wel
well
Date:
before 12th century
1: a sound, healthy, or prosperous state : well-being
2: obsolete : body politic commonweal
---
2weal
Function:
noun
Etymology:
alteration of wale
Date:
circa 1798
1: welt
---
I assumed that you meant meaning 2 of the first entry.
100% correct!
I always thought
that the "wealth" in "commonwealth" meant good which is similar. I would
think that the two meanings would have a similar derivation.
It derives from an E.O. phrase meaning the "common or global resource
health", or thereabout.
That is the meaning I usually take it to mean. Of course in Bushtopia,
there is very little common wealth. All the wealth is in the hands of
Bush's uncommonly wealthy friends.
"E.O."? I really must get my batteries replaced.
"O.E.", I meant, of course!
.
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| User: "johac" |
|
| Title: Re: A Creation Museum Going Out of Business Sale |
23 Jan 2008 11:32:44 PM |
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In article <6oodp31lrrg0t2qi0f69sfk0msoi0f0p45@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:31:13 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <h02bp3hk4v2aulued0q7tllcc5vgdtpvor@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:05:05 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <cdj8p3pggs6j7gvbdodvsfrpetmm8l64lp@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:58:01 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <mcp5p3lpd8knjimip5dil9g2olknticanb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:01:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <bsb3p314rlq2ahq4a2lm4g2kjfuda2vg4o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:51:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <b7a2p3580juc91bdjclf26trjo9gvc9dte@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
---
Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the
auction
of
a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The
founder
and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects
evolution
and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close
unless
the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor
said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
I hope not too, although a real museum could make much better
use
of
it.
It really b'longs to the country, or even the world, given it's
status.
Such artifacts should not remain the sole preserve of feckless
individuals or profit-seeking corporations.
They belong to the common weal.
(How's that for old fashioned talk?!)
Makes sense to me. "The commons" is an expression heard a lot among
progressive groups in this country who object to the transfer of
what
belongs or should belong to all of us to the rich by our corrupt
government.
I meant the "weal" bit.
Not commonly used since the 17th century.
We still use "commonwealth" Some lf our states such as Massachusetts,
Virginia, and Kentucky style themselves as "commonwealths". I believe
that there are a few others.
I understand that.
I was referring to the archaic "weal", as opposed to "wealth".
The Merriam Webster online dictionary has two entries for "weal":
1weal
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English wele, from Old English wela; akin to Old English wel
well
Date:
before 12th century
1: a sound, healthy, or prosperous state : well-being
2: obsolete : body politic commonweal
---
2weal
Function:
noun
Etymology:
alteration of wale
Date:
circa 1798
1: welt
---
I assumed that you meant meaning 2 of the first entry.
100% correct!
I always thought
that the "wealth" in "commonwealth" meant good which is similar. I would
think that the two meanings would have a similar derivation.
It derives from an E.O. phrase meaning the "common or global resource
health", or thereabout.
That is the meaning I usually take it to mean. Of course in Bushtopia,
there is very little common wealth. All the wealth is in the hands of
Bush's uncommonly wealthy friends.
"E.O."? I really must get my batteries replaced.
"O.E.", I meant, of course!
The alien space bats must be taking over your brain. They got mine years
ago.
--
John #1782
.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
|
| Title: Re: A Creation Museum Going Out of Business Sale |
24 Jan 2008 12:48:12 AM |
|
|
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:32:44 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <6oodp31lrrg0t2qi0f69sfk0msoi0f0p45@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:31:13 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <h02bp3hk4v2aulued0q7tllcc5vgdtpvor@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:05:05 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <cdj8p3pggs6j7gvbdodvsfrpetmm8l64lp@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:58:01 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <mcp5p3lpd8knjimip5dil9g2olknticanb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:01:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <bsb3p314rlq2ahq4a2lm4g2kjfuda2vg4o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:51:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <b7a2p3580juc91bdjclf26trjo9gvc9dte@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
---
Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the
auction
of
a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The
founder
and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects
evolution
and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will close
unless
the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe Taylor
said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
I hope not too, although a real museum could make much better
use
of
it.
It really b'longs to the country, or even the world, given it's
status.
Such artifacts should not remain the sole preserve of feckless
individuals or profit-seeking corporations.
They belong to the common weal.
(How's that for old fashioned talk?!)
Makes sense to me. "The commons" is an expression heard a lot among
progressive groups in this country who object to the transfer of
what
belongs or should belong to all of us to the rich by our corrupt
government.
I meant the "weal" bit.
Not commonly used since the 17th century.
We still use "commonwealth" Some lf our states such as Massachusetts,
Virginia, and Kentucky style themselves as "commonwealths". I believe
that there are a few others.
I understand that.
I was referring to the archaic "weal", as opposed to "wealth".
The Merriam Webster online dictionary has two entries for "weal":
1weal
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English wele, from Old English wela; akin to Old English wel
well
Date:
before 12th century
1: a sound, healthy, or prosperous state : well-being
2: obsolete : body politic commonweal
---
2weal
Function:
noun
Etymology:
alteration of wale
Date:
circa 1798
1: welt
---
I assumed that you meant meaning 2 of the first entry.
100% correct!
I always thought
that the "wealth" in "commonwealth" meant good which is similar. I would
think that the two meanings would have a similar derivation.
It derives from an E.O. phrase meaning the "common or global resource
health", or thereabout.
That is the meaning I usually take it to mean. Of course in Bushtopia,
there is very little common wealth. All the wealth is in the hands of
Bush's uncommonly wealthy friends.
"E.O."? I really must get my batteries replaced.
"O.E.", I meant, of course!
The alien space bats must be taking over your brain. They got mine years
ago.
I wondered what those sounds emanting from my belfry were!
.
|
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| User: "johac" |
|
| Title: Re: A Creation Museum Going Out of Business Sale |
24 Jan 2008 11:27:11 PM |
|
|
In article <94dgp35ab73t75dh2si64i6n8pvgflghhr@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:32:44 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <6oodp31lrrg0t2qi0f69sfk0msoi0f0p45@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:31:13 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <h02bp3hk4v2aulued0q7tllcc5vgdtpvor@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:05:05 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <cdj8p3pggs6j7gvbdodvsfrpetmm8l64lp@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:58:01 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <mcp5p3lpd8knjimip5dil9g2olknticanb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:01:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <bsb3p314rlq2ahq4a2lm4g2kjfuda2vg4o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:51:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <b7a2p3580juc91bdjclf26trjo9gvc9dte@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
---
Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the
auction
of
a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The
founder
and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects
evolution
and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will
close
unless
the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe
Taylor
said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
I hope not too, although a real museum could make much better
use
of
it.
It really b'longs to the country, or even the world, given
it's
status.
Such artifacts should not remain the sole preserve of feckless
individuals or profit-seeking corporations.
They belong to the common weal.
(How's that for old fashioned talk?!)
Makes sense to me. "The commons" is an expression heard a lot
among
progressive groups in this country who object to the transfer of
what
belongs or should belong to all of us to the rich by our corrupt
government.
I meant the "weal" bit.
Not commonly used since the 17th century.
We still use "commonwealth" Some lf our states such as
Massachusetts,
Virginia, and Kentucky style themselves as "commonwealths". I
believe
that there are a few others.
I understand that.
I was referring to the archaic "weal", as opposed to "wealth".
The Merriam Webster online dictionary has two entries for "weal":
1weal
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle English wele, from Old English wela; akin to Old English
wel
well
Date:
before 12th century
1: a sound, healthy, or prosperous state : well-being
2: obsolete : body politic commonweal
---
2weal
Function:
noun
Etymology:
alteration of wale
Date:
circa 1798
1: welt
---
I assumed that you meant meaning 2 of the first entry.
100% correct!
I always thought
that the "wealth" in "commonwealth" meant good which is similar. I
would
think that the two meanings would have a similar derivation.
It derives from an E.O. phrase meaning the "common or global resource
health", or thereabout.
That is the meaning I usually take it to mean. Of course in Bushtopia,
there is very little common wealth. All the wealth is in the hands of
Bush's uncommonly wealthy friends.
"E.O."? I really must get my batteries replaced.
"O.E.", I meant, of course!
The alien space bats must be taking over your brain. They got mine years
ago.
I wondered what those sounds emanting from my belfry were!
That's how they communicate with other ASBs.
--
John #1782
.
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|
|
| User: "Michael Gray" |
|
| Title: Re: A Creation Museum Going Out of Business Sale |
25 Jan 2008 01:11:25 AM |
|
|
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:27:11 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <94dgp35ab73t75dh2si64i6n8pvgflghhr@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:32:44 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <6oodp31lrrg0t2qi0f69sfk0msoi0f0p45@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:31:13 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <h02bp3hk4v2aulued0q7tllcc5vgdtpvor@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:05:05 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <cdj8p3pggs6j7gvbdodvsfrpetmm8l64lp@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:58:01 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <mcp5p3lpd8knjimip5dil9g2olknticanb@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:01:57 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <bsb3p314rlq2ahq4a2lm4g2kjfuda2vg4o@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:51:36 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <b7a2p3580juc91bdjclf26trjo9gvc9dte@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:50:06 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Looks like this place is about to be naturally unselected.
---
Creation museum selling mastodon skull
By PAUL J. WEBERThu Jan 17, 7:16 PM ET
A Texas museum that teaches creationism is counting on the
auction
of
a
prehistoric mastodon skull to stave off extinction. The
founder
and
curator of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum, which rejects
evolution
and
claims that man and dinosaurs coexisted, said it will
close
unless
the
Volkswagen-sized skull finds a generous bidder.
"If it sells, well, then we can come another day," Joe
Taylor
said.
"This is very important to our continuing."
I truly hope that it does not sell.
I hope not too, although a real museum could make much better
use
of
it.
It really b'longs to the country, or even the world, given
it's
status.
Such artifacts should not remain the sole preserve of feckless
individuals or profit-seeking corporations.
They belong to the common weal.
(How's that for old fashioned talk?!)
Makes sense to me. "The commons" is an expression heard a lot
among
progressive groups in this country who object to the transfer of
what
belongs or should belong to all of us to the rich by our corrupt
government.
I meant the "weal" bit.
Not commonly used since the 17th century.
We still use "commonwealth" Some lf our states such as
Massachusetts,
Virginia, and Kentucky style themselves as "commonwealths". I
believe
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