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"Michael Ejercito" |
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13 Oct 2006 12:19:59 PM |
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A Duty to Submit to Murder? |
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Here is a quote from a forum thread a couple of months ago:
"Ok, I going to throw a wrench in here.
As for abortion...I was on a missions trip to Nicaragua when this
happened...a young girl was walking to the store for her mother, she
was 11 at the time. A man assaulted and raped her. She got pregnent.
The doctors said she was too under developed physically to give birth
and live. Toward the end of the trip, we heard on the news the abortion
was decided. For once I understood there are grey areas. This girl
would have died had she carried the child to term. Why would you punish
her for going to the store for her mother? The baby may have survived
with no mom, no dad. Think of all the psycological effects. Knowing in
9 months you are surely going die come on."
Now here is the response.
"How about trusting in God to see her through and heal her? Maybe God
wouldn't have, but hats not the point. My friend, the presence of life
is the will of God. What happens on earth is not as important as
eternity.
The situation is sad, but that does not make it less wrong. It just
makes it all the more unfortunate.
Wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong, period."
If rape results in death, it is capital murder. So, does an
eleven-year-old rape victim have a duty to submit to murder to deliver
the rapist's baby?
Michael
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| User: "Martin Willett" |
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| Title: Re: A Duty to Submit to Murder? |
23 Oct 2006 02:39:57 PM |
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: A Duty to Submit to Murder? |
17 Oct 2006 07:16:17 PM |
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:47:02 +0100, Martin Willett
<mwillett.org@invalid.invalid> wrote:
In my own life I have indirect experience of concealed teenage
pregnancy, many teenage pregnancies and of a girl who didn't have her
first period until after her first child (brother-in-law's
sister-in-law's sister-in-law I think, if I recall correctly). I haven't
heard any stories of real young girls dying in childbirth. Have you?
Define "real young". Depending on the definition, I may have known 3.
(I grew up in an era when abortions were usually performed by wire
hanger or coke bottle, and pregnancy before marriage - at any age -
was worse than being caught shoplifting.)
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Robert" |
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| Title: Re: A Duty to Submit to Murder? |
01 Nov 2006 09:53:00 AM |
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:28:32 -0700, Robert <robpar@netportusa.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:47:02 +0100, Martin Willett
<mwillett.org@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:57:31 +0100, Martin Willett
<mwillett.org@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Young girls regularly have secret pregnancies and leave healthy babies
on doorsteps or the like and slip away often never to be traced. The
newspapers tell us this. They don't tell us of young girls concealing
pregnancies and then dying. Can you ever recall a story like that? I bet
you can recall stories of mystery abandoned healthy babies. You can't
abandon your baby when you die in the process of delivery.
We're talking cities and civilization. Most of the world lives in
areas in which "hearing about" means from the village gossip. You and
I never hear a thing about this.
In my own life I have indirect experience of concealed teenage
pregnancy, many teenage pregnancies and of a girl who didn't have her
first period until after her first child (brother-in-law's
sister-in-law's sister-in-law I think, if I recall correctly). I haven't
heard any stories of real young girls dying in childbirth. Have you?
Nor since abortion became legal, however I know of several pro-life
parents killing their young daughter, by beating them to death, for
being pregnant.
Decent parents take their young daughter to get an abortion, it's
the self righteous bigots, that abuse their daughters. These young
girls are in real trouble, from their families. With out legal
abortions, the death rate for young girls, will increase, from murder,
suicide, and child birth. Granted some young girls, can birth easily.
But that is not the rule.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: A Duty to Submit to Murder? |
01 Nov 2006 01:50:21 PM |
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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:53:00 -0800, Robert <robpar@netportusa.com>
wrote:
girls are in real trouble, from their families. With out legal
abortions, the death rate for young girls, will increase, from murder,
suicide, and child birth.
And from septic abortions, abortions that pierce the uterus, caustic
abortions, etc. The number of pregnant women (using "women" to mean
those who are old enough to get pregnant) who will want to terminate
their pregnancies won't go down just because the means to do it safely
no longer exists. Many women still abort without medical assistance,
because they can't afford the cheapest clinic they can get to.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
The most curious social convention of the great age in which we live is the
one to the effect that religious opinions should be respected.
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| User: "Robert" |
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| Title: Re: A Duty to Submit to Murder? |
02 Nov 2006 05:10:20 PM |
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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:50:21 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 07:53:00 -0800, Robert <robpar@netportusa.com>
wrote:
girls are in real trouble, from their families. With out legal
abortions, the death rate for young girls, will increase, from murder,
suicide, and child birth.
And from septic abortions, abortions that pierce the uterus, caustic
abortions, etc. The number of pregnant women (using "women" to mean
those who are old enough to get pregnant) who will want to terminate
their pregnancies won't go down just because the means to do it safely
no longer exists. Many women still abort without medical assistance,
because they can't afford the cheapest clinic they can get to.
Family Planning Clinics, which are federally funded provide
abortions, based on ability to pay. Often at no cost to the patients.
They also provide neo-natal services to poor women that choose to have
the baby. As well as treatment for STD's, contraceptives, and
education. They have regular classes to teach the mother to be, how to
care for a child.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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02 Nov 2006 04:45:30 PM |
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On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:10:20 -0800, Robert <robpar@netportusa.com>
wrote:
Family Planning Clinics, which are federally funded provide
abortions, based on ability to pay. Often at no cost to the patients.
And they're not accessible to all women. Some women can't travel
further than they can walk.
--
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witnessed. Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor
of Hitler nor of Mussolini."
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| User: "Robert" |
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| Title: Re: A Duty to Submit to Murder? |
18 Oct 2006 02:31:49 PM |
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:28:32 -0700, Robert <robpar@netportusa.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:47:02 +0100, Martin Willett
<mwillett.org@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:57:31 +0100, Martin Willett
<mwillett.org@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Young girls regularly have secret pregnancies and leave healthy babies
on doorsteps or the like and slip away often never to be traced. The
newspapers tell us this. They don't tell us of young girls concealing
pregnancies and then dying. Can you ever recall a story like that? I bet
you can recall stories of mystery abandoned healthy babies. You can't
abandon your baby when you die in the process of delivery.
We're talking cities and civilization. Most of the world lives in
areas in which "hearing about" means from the village gossip. You and
I never hear a thing about this.
In my own life I have indirect experience of concealed teenage
pregnancy, many teenage pregnancies and of a girl who didn't have her
first period until after her first child (brother-in-law's
sister-in-law's sister-in-law I think, if I recall correctly). I haven't
heard any stories of real young girls dying in childbirth. Have you?
Not since abortion became legal, however I know of several pro-life
parents killing their young daughter, by beating them to death, for
being pregnant.
Decent parents take their young daughter to get an abortion, it's
the self righteous religious bigots, that causes the problems.
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| User: "Martin Willett" |
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| Title: Re: A Duty to Submit to Murder? |
18 Oct 2006 02:29:05 PM |
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Robert wrote:
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:28:32 -0700, Robert <robpar@netportusa.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:47:02 +0100, Martin Willett
<mwillett.org@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:57:31 +0100, Martin Willett
<mwillett.org@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Young girls regularly have secret pregnancies and leave healthy babies
on doorsteps or the like and slip away often never to be traced. The
newspapers tell us this. They don't tell us of young girls concealing
pregnancies and then dying. Can you ever recall a story like that? I bet
you can recall stories of mystery abandoned healthy babies. You can't
abandon your baby when you die in the process of delivery.
We're talking cities and civilization. Most of the world lives in
areas in which "hearing about" means from the village gossip. You and
I never hear a thing about this.
In my own life I have indirect experience of concealed teenage
pregnancy, many teenage pregnancies and of a girl who didn't have her
first period until after her first child (brother-in-law's
sister-in-law's sister-in-law I think, if I recall correctly). I haven't
heard any stories of real young girls dying in childbirth. Have you?
Not since abortion became legal, however I know of several pro-life
parents killing their young daughter, by beating them to death, for
being pregnant.
Decent parents take their young daughter to get an abortion, it's
the self righteous religious bigots, that causes the problems.
And it is the daughters of these bigots who manage to conceal their
pregnancies and give birth in secret and abandon their babies. Girls in
loving homes would be able to talk with their parents.
The idea that my daughter could conceal a pregnancy is laughable, as is
the idea that she would feel she wanted to.
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Martin Willett
http://mwillett.org/
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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13 Oct 2006 01:52:09 PM |
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On 13 Oct 2006 10:19:59 -0700, "Michael Ejercito"
<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
If rape results in death, it is capital murder. So, does an
eleven-year-old rape victim have a duty to submit to murder to deliver
the rapist's baby?
According to the fundies, abortion is worse than rape or death of the
body, so the girl has to keep the pregnancy, even if it results in
both her and the baby dying. It's Godswill. I'd rather feed swill to
the hogs than live by it.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Does it ever amaze anyone else how little faith some heterosexuals have
in heterosexuality? It's supposed to be this god-given human instinct
that only the warped and perverted ever stray from; but, it seems, if we
once tell our straight children a message even as mild as "some people
are gay, and that's all right," that'll be enough to send lil' Suzy into
the arms of women forever. It's a wonder the race has survived this
long, really..."
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| User: "Michael Ejercito" |
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| Title: Re: A Duty to Submit to Murder? |
13 Oct 2006 08:15:13 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 13 Oct 2006 10:19:59 -0700, "Michael Ejercito"
<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
If rape results in death, it is capital murder. So, does an
eleven-year-old rape victim have a duty to submit to murder to deliver
the rapist's baby?
According to the fundies, abortion is worse than rape or death of the
body, so the girl has to keep the pregnancy, even if it results in
both her and the baby dying. It's Godswill. I'd rather feed swill to
the hogs than live by it.
--
Of course, it was God's will to exterminate entire populations,
including unborn babies, because they were occupying land God gave to
Israel.
Michael
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| User: "Robert" |
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| Title: Re: A Duty to Submit to Murder? |
14 Oct 2006 03:03:00 PM |
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On 13 Oct 2006 18:15:13 -0700, "Michael Ejercito"
<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 13 Oct 2006 10:19:59 -0700, "Michael Ejercito"
<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
If rape results in death, it is capital murder. So, does an
eleven-year-old rape victim have a duty to submit to murder to deliver
the rapist's baby?
According to the fundies, abortion is worse than rape or death of the
body, so the girl has to keep the pregnancy, even if it results in
both her and the baby dying. It's Godswill. I'd rather feed swill to
the hogs than live by it.
--
Of course, it was God's will to exterminate entire populations,
including unborn babies, because they were occupying land God gave to
Israel.
Michael
This particular myth has been proven to be false, another Jewish
lie, that Christians love to believe and repeat.
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| User: "stoney" |
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15 Oct 2006 11:01:34 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 13:03:00 -0700, Robert <robpar@netportusa.com> wrote
in alt.atheism
On 13 Oct 2006 18:15:13 -0700, "Michael Ejercito"
<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 13 Oct 2006 10:19:59 -0700, "Michael Ejercito"
<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
If rape results in death, it is capital murder. So, does an
eleven-year-old rape victim have a duty to submit to murder to deliver
the rapist's baby?
According to the fundies, abortion is worse than rape or death of the
body, so the girl has to keep the pregnancy, even if it results in
both her and the baby dying. It's Godswill. I'd rather feed swill to
the hogs than live by it.
--
Of course, it was God's will to exterminate entire populations,
including unborn babies, because they were occupying land God gave to
Israel.
Michael
This particular myth has been proven to be false, another Jewish
lie, that Christians love to believe and repeat.
Bigotry. How common. :\
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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13 Oct 2006 08:23:33 PM |
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On 13 Oct 2006 18:15:13 -0700, "Michael Ejercito"
<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
Of course, it was God's will to exterminate entire populations,
including unborn babies, because they were occupying land God gave to
Israel.
Well ... it was godswill to have his people exterminate them, after he
told them that it was godswill that they don't kill anyone. No wonder
theists can't think.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism is human
concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious mind cannot
begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not an old
religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and never has
been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in its
simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
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| User: "stoney" |
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15 Oct 2006 11:00:43 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:23:33 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism
On 13 Oct 2006 18:15:13 -0700, "Michael Ejercito"
<mejercit@hotmail.com> wrote:
Of course, it was God's will to exterminate entire populations,
including unborn babies, because they were occupying land God gave to
Israel.
Well ... it was godswill to have his people exterminate them, after he
told them that it was godswill that they don't kill anyone. No wonder
theists can't think.
And, of course, Ejaculate can't be bothered to address the point(s)
raised in answer to his question.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: A Duty to Submit to Murder? |
15 Oct 2006 10:51:14 PM |
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On 13 Oct 2006 10:19:59 -0700, "Michael Ejercito" <mejercit@hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Click here to view the thread:
http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&groupID=100021339&page=18&EntryID=14230818&CategoryID=0&get=1&adTopicId=0&lastpagesent=17&Mytoken=40142A23-D62C-48EB-94BF83C866E187D164434032
Here is a quote from a forum thread a couple of months ago:
"Ok, I going to throw a wrench in here.
As for abortion...I was on a missions trip to Nicaragua when this
happened...a young girl was walking to the store for her mother, she
was 11 at the time. A man assaulted and raped her. She got pregnent.
The doctors said she was too under developed physically to give birth
and live. Toward the end of the trip, we heard on the news the abortion
was decided. For once I understood there are grey areas. This girl
would have died had she carried the child to term. Why would you punish
her for going to the store for her mother? The baby may have survived
with no mom, no dad. Think of all the psycological effects. Knowing in
9 months you are surely going die come on."
Now here is the response.
"How about trusting in God to see her through and heal her? Maybe God
wouldn't have, but hats not the point. My friend, the presence of life
is the will of God. What happens on earth is not as important as
eternity.
The situation is sad, but that does not make it less wrong. It just
makes it all the more unfortunate.
Wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong, period."
If rape results in death, it is capital murder. So, does an
eleven-year-old rape victim have a duty to submit to murder to deliver
the rapist's baby?
I'm not quite sure what is you and what is an unknown number of others.
I'm going with the last paragraph as being yours.
The rape victim would be subjecting herself to suicide to deliver the
rapists offspring if she lived in South Dakota.
The whole situation was orchestrated by your 'loving' god.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Ejercito" |
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15 Oct 2006 11:41:37 PM |
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stoney wrote:
On 13 Oct 2006 10:19:59 -0700, "Michael Ejercito" <mejercit@hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Click here to view the thread:
http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&groupID=100021339&page=18&EntryID=14230818&CategoryID=0&get=1&adTopicId=0&lastpagesent=17&Mytoken=40142A23-D62C-48EB-94BF83C866E187D164434032
Here is a quote from a forum thread a couple of months ago:
"Ok, I going to throw a wrench in here.
As for abortion...I was on a missions trip to Nicaragua when this
happened...a young girl was walking to the store for her mother, she
was 11 at the time. A man assaulted and raped her. She got pregnent.
The doctors said she was too under developed physically to give birth
and live. Toward the end of the trip, we heard on the news the abortion
was decided. For once I understood there are grey areas. This girl
would have died had she carried the child to term. Why would you punish
her for going to the store for her mother? The baby may have survived
with no mom, no dad. Think of all the psycological effects. Knowing in
9 months you are surely going die come on."
Now here is the response.
"How about trusting in God to see her through and heal her? Maybe God
wouldn't have, but hats not the point. My friend, the presence of life
is the will of God. What happens on earth is not as important as
eternity.
The situation is sad, but that does not make it less wrong. It just
makes it all the more unfortunate.
Wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong, period."
If rape results in death, it is capital murder. So, does an
eleven-year-old rape victim have a duty to submit to murder to deliver
the rapist's baby?
I'm not quite sure what is you and what is an unknown number of others.
I'm going with the last paragraph as being yours.
The rape victim would be subjecting herself to suicide to deliver the
rapists offspring if she lived in South Dakota.
The whole situation was orchestrated by your 'loving' god.
No, the situation was orchestrated by the rapist who squirted his
***** into the rape victim.
Michael
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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16 Oct 2006 11:27:36 AM |
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Michael Ejercito wrote:
stoney wrote:
On 13 Oct 2006 10:19:59 -0700, "Michael Ejercito" <mejercit@hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Click here to view the thread:
http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&groupID=100021339&page=18&EntryID=14230818&CategoryID=0&get=1&adTopicId=0&lastpagesent=17&Mytoken=40142A23-D62C-48EB-94BF83C866E187D164434032
Here is a quote from a forum thread a couple of months ago:
"Ok, I going to throw a wrench in here.
As for abortion...I was on a missions trip to Nicaragua when this
happened...a young girl was walking to the store for her mother, she
was 11 at the time. A man assaulted and raped her. She got pregnent.
The doctors said she was too under developed physically to give birth
and live. Toward the end of the trip, we heard on the news the abortion
was decided. For once I understood there are grey areas. This girl
would have died had she carried the child to term. Why would you punish
her for going to the store for her mother? The baby may have survived
with no mom, no dad. Think of all the psycological effects. Knowing in
9 months you are surely going die come on."
Now here is the response.
"How about trusting in God to see her through and heal her? Maybe God
wouldn't have, but hats not the point. My friend, the presence of life
is the will of God. What happens on earth is not as important as
eternity.
The situation is sad, but that does not make it less wrong. It just
makes it all the more unfortunate.
Wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong, period."
If rape results in death, it is capital murder. So, does an
eleven-year-old rape victim have a duty to submit to murder to deliver
the rapist's baby?
I'm not quite sure what is you and what is an unknown number of others.
I'm going with the last paragraph as being yours.
The rape victim would be subjecting herself to suicide to deliver the
rapists offspring if she lived in South Dakota.
The whole situation was orchestrated by your 'loving' god.
No, the situation was orchestrated by the rapist who squirted his
***** into the rape victim.
So why did your god let him, and why won't your god let the girls life
be saved?
--
Lucifer, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and General
Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
Michael
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: A Duty to Submit to Murder? |
18 Oct 2006 02:58:30 PM |
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On 16 Oct 2006 09:27:36 -0700, "Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote
in alt.atheism
Michael Ejercito wrote:
stoney wrote:
On 13 Oct 2006 10:19:59 -0700, "Michael Ejercito" <mejercit@hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Click here to view the thread:
http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&groupID=100021339&page=18&EntryID=14230818&CategoryID=0&get=1&adTopicId=0&lastpagesent=17&Mytoken=40142A23-D62C-48EB-94BF83C866E187D164434032
Here is a quote from a forum thread a couple of months ago:
"Ok, I going to throw a wrench in here.
As for abortion...I was on a missions trip to Nicaragua when this
happened...a young girl was walking to the store for her mother, she
was 11 at the time. A man assaulted and raped her. She got pregnent.
The doctors said she was too under developed physically to give birth
and live. Toward the end of the trip, we heard on the news the abortion
was decided. For once I understood there are grey areas. This girl
would have died had she carried the child to term. Why would you punish
her for going to the store for her mother? The baby may have survived
with no mom, no dad. Think of all the psycological effects. Knowing in
9 months you are surely going die come on."
Now here is the response.
"How about trusting in God to see her through and heal her? Maybe God
wouldn't have, but hats not the point. My friend, the presence of life
is the will of God. What happens on earth is not as important as
eternity.
The situation is sad, but that does not make it less wrong. It just
makes it all the more unfortunate.
Wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong, period."
If rape results in death, it is capital murder. So, does an
eleven-year-old rape victim have a duty to submit to murder to deliver
the rapist's baby?
I'm not quite sure what is you and what is an unknown number of others.
I'm going with the last paragraph as being yours.
The rape victim would be subjecting herself to suicide to deliver the
rapists offspring if she lived in South Dakota.
The whole situation was orchestrated by your 'loving' god.
No, the situation was orchestrated by the rapist who squirted his
***** into the rape victim.
So why did your god let him, and why won't your god let the girls life
be saved?
Because 'He' loves the little girl sooooooo much.
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: A Duty to Submit to Murder? |
18 Oct 2006 02:57:47 PM |
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On 15 Oct 2006 21:41:37 -0700, "Michael Ejercito" <mejercit@hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
stoney wrote:
On 13 Oct 2006 10:19:59 -0700, "Michael Ejercito" <mejercit@hotmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
Click here to view the thread:
http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&groupID=100021339&page=18&EntryID=14230818&CategoryID=0&get=1&adTopicId=0&lastpagesent=17&Mytoken=40142A23-D62C-48EB-94BF83C866E187D164434032
Here is a quote from a forum thread a couple of months ago:
"Ok, I going to throw a wrench in here.
As for abortion...I was on a missions trip to Nicaragua when this
happened...a young girl was walking to the store for her mother, she
was 11 at the time. A man assaulted and raped her. She got pregnent.
The doctors said she was too under developed physically to give birth
and live. Toward the end of the trip, we heard on the news the abortion
was decided. For once I understood there are grey areas. This girl
would have died had she carried the child to term. Why would you punish
her for going to the store for her mother? The baby may have survived
with no mom, no dad. Think of all the psycological effects. Knowing in
9 months you are surely going die come on."
Now here is the response.
"How about trusting in God to see her through and heal her? Maybe God
wouldn't have, but hats not the point. My friend, the presence of life
is the will of God. What happens on earth is not as important as
eternity.
The situation is sad, but that does not make it less wrong. It just
makes it all the more unfortunate.
Wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong, period."
If rape results in death, it is capital murder. So, does an
eleven-year-old rape victim have a duty to submit to murder to deliver
the rapist's baby?
I'm not quite sure what is you and what is an unknown number of others.
I'm going with the last paragraph as being yours.
The rape victim would be subjecting herself to suicide to deliver the
rapists offspring if she lived in South Dakota.
The whole situation was orchestrated by your 'loving' god.
No, the situation was orchestrated by the rapist who squirted his
***** into the rape victim.
" Of course He is all-knowing and omnipotent."-Michael.
I love it when fuckwits blow themselves up.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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