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Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Bill M" |
| Date: |
25 Jun 2006 09:33:55 AM |
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A GOD CHALLENGE |
Here is an easy one for all you god worshippers.
Present ANY OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that your god actually exists.
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| User: "Mary Walker" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 10:54:00 AM |
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"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:L5xng.6602$w84.6254@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
Here is an easy one for all you god worshippers.
Present ANY OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that your god actually exists.
Can't be done. However I can present objective verifiable evidence that the
god does not exist i.e. the christian god is :
1. loving
2. omnipotent
3. all knowing
Therefore a loving, omnipotent, all knowing god would not allow a peodophile
to rape a 3 year old girl - else he wouldn't love her and if he didn't love
her (and her parents, relatives) then he would not allow the child to be
raped. Simple.
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 08:06:02 PM |
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Mary Walker wrote:
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:L5xng.6602$w84.6254@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
Here is an easy one for all you god worshippers.
Present ANY OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that your god actually exists.
Can't be done. However I can present objective verifiable evidence that the
god does not exist i.e. the christian god is :
1. loving
2. omnipotent
3. all knowing
Therefore a loving, omnipotent, all knowing god would not allow a peodophile
to rape a 3 year old girl - else he wouldn't love her and if he didn't love
her (and her parents, relatives) then he would not allow the child to be
raped. Simple.
..........nor would He allow one of 'in His likeness' mothers
to give birth to a grossly deformed fetus,
so gross she is never allowed to see it.
[around one in every 400,000]
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 11:57:04 AM |
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:54:00 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:L5xng.6602$w84.6254@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
Here is an easy one for all you god worshippers.
Present ANY OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that your god actually exists.
Can't be done. However I can present objective verifiable evidence that the
god does not exist i.e. the christian god is :
1. loving
2. omnipotent
3. all knowing
Therefore a loving, omnipotent, all knowing god would not allow a peodophile
to rape a 3 year old girl - else he wouldn't love her and if he didn't love
her (and her parents, relatives) then he would not allow the child to be
raped. Simple.
You are deceived by the evil of the world. It is Satan the Devil that
rules this evil world. The fact you can not find God in the world
where devil is god does not prove God's nonexistence. It only proves
truth and justice can not exist in the world of evil you are showing
to us. Yes, in your sick evil world, there is no God. You have proved
it perfectly. Congratulations!
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
26 Jun 2006 12:01:43 PM |
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"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:54:00 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:L5xng.6602$w84.6254@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
Here is an easy one for all you god worshippers.
Present ANY OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that your god actually
exists.
Can't be done. However I can present objective verifiable evidence that
the
god does not exist i.e. the christian god is :
1. loving
2. omnipotent
3. all knowing
Therefore a loving, omnipotent, all knowing god would not allow a
peodophile
to rape a 3 year old girl - else he wouldn't love her and if he didn't
love
her (and her parents, relatives) then he would not allow the child to be
raped. Simple.
You are deceived by the evil of the world. It is Satan the Devil that
rules this evil world.
So satan is more powerful than god?
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
26 Jun 2006 05:35:09 PM |
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You are deceived by the evil of the world. It is Satan the Devil that
rules this evil world.
So satan is more powerful than god?
evidently that's the case, the loving, caring christian god is letting satan
run amok.
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 12:35:42 PM |
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"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:1kft92p3vu0ol60n8iee6v8h3d87ru8pv6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:54:00 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:L5xng.6602$w84.6254@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
Here is an easy one for all you god worshippers.
Present ANY OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that your god actually exists.
Can't be done. However I can present objective verifiable evidence that
the
god does not exist i.e. the christian god is :
1. loving
2. omnipotent
3. all knowing
Therefore a loving, omnipotent, all knowing god would not allow a
peodophile
to rape a 3 year old girl - else he wouldn't love her and if he didn't
love
her (and her parents, relatives) then he would not allow the child to be
raped. Simple.
You are deceived by the evil of the world. It is Satan the Devil that
rules this evil world. The fact you can not find God in the world
where devil is god does not prove God's nonexistence. It only proves
truth and justice can not exist in the world of evil you are showing
to us. Yes, in your sick evil world, there is no God. You have proved
it perfectly. Congratulations!
Are you implying that there are really *two* worlds: one in which Christians
live and is governed by 'God', and the other, one that 'non-believers' live
in and which is governed by 'Satan'? Is that it? Chew on that one for a
while before responding.
As for the 'evil of the word', your 'God' created it, had the free-will
*not* to create it, and maliciously and malevolently *chose* to do so --
taking some of Christian theology to its natural conclusion. So that makes
your 'God' even *more* evil than evil; he created it! I would also add that
your 'God' created 'Satan' with the foreknowledge that he would turn into
such a sparkling -- and evil -- personality, as well. What say you to
*that*?
Greywolf
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 12:57:37 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 12:35:42 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:1kft92p3vu0ol60n8iee6v8h3d87ru8pv6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:54:00 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:L5xng.6602$w84.6254@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
Here is an easy one for all you god worshippers.
Present ANY OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that your god actually exists.
Can't be done. However I can present objective verifiable evidence that
the
god does not exist i.e. the christian god is :
1. loving
2. omnipotent
3. all knowing
Therefore a loving, omnipotent, all knowing god would not allow a
peodophile
to rape a 3 year old girl - else he wouldn't love her and if he didn't
love
her (and her parents, relatives) then he would not allow the child to be
raped. Simple.
You are deceived by the evil of the world. It is Satan the Devil that
rules this evil world. The fact you can not find God in the world
where devil is god does not prove God's nonexistence. It only proves
truth and justice can not exist in the world of evil you are showing
to us. Yes, in your sick evil world, there is no God. You have proved
it perfectly. Congratulations!
Are you implying that there are really *two* worlds: one in which Christians
live and is governed by 'God', and the other, one that 'non-believers' live
in and which is governed by 'Satan'? Is that it? Chew on that one for a
while before responding.
The world where God rules is called heaven. The world where the Devil
rules is called hell. What is there too hard to understand?
As for the 'evil of the word', your 'God' created it,
No, you got it wrong. God does not create evil. God defines evil.
had the free-will
*not* to create it, and maliciously and malevolently *chose* to do so --
taking some of Christian theology to its natural conclusion.
That's your mistake due to your failure in understanding the Bible
correctly.
So that makes
your 'God' even *more* evil than evil; he created it!
No, he didn't. The one that creates evil is always the Devil. The one
who creates good is always God.
I would also add that
your 'God' created 'Satan' with the foreknowledge that he would turn into
such a sparkling -- and evil -- personality, as well. What say you to
*that*?
I say you are completely wrong. God does not create 'Satan' the Devil
either. Devil is nothing but an imagination in the ignorant human
mind. In reality, there is no Devil.
Greywolf
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 03:26:18 PM |
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"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 12:35:42 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:1kft92p3vu0ol60n8iee6v8h3d87ru8pv6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:54:00 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:L5xng.6602$w84.6254@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
Here is an easy one for all you god worshippers.
Present ANY OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that your god actually
exists.
Can't be done. However I can present objective verifiable evidence that
the
god does not exist i.e. the christian god is :
1. loving
2. omnipotent
3. all knowing
Therefore a loving, omnipotent, all knowing god would not allow a
peodophile
to rape a 3 year old girl - else he wouldn't love her and if he didn't
love
her (and her parents, relatives) then he would not allow the child to be
raped. Simple.
You are deceived by the evil of the world. It is Satan the Devil that
rules this evil world. The fact you can not find God in the world
where devil is god does not prove God's nonexistence. It only proves
truth and justice can not exist in the world of evil you are showing
to us. Yes, in your sick evil world, there is no God. You have proved
it perfectly. Congratulations!
Are you implying that there are really *two* worlds: one in which
Christians
live and is governed by 'God', and the other, one that 'non-believers'
live
in and which is governed by 'Satan'? Is that it? Chew on that one for a
while before responding.
The world where God rules is called heaven. The world where the Devil
rules is called hell. What is there too hard to understand?
As for the 'evil of the word', your 'God' created it,
No, you got it wrong. God does not create evil. God defines evil.
had the free-will
*not* to create it, and maliciously and malevolently *chose* to do so --
taking some of Christian theology to its natural conclusion.
That's your mistake due to your failure in understanding the Bible
correctly.
So that makes
your 'God' even *more* evil than evil; he created it!
No, he didn't. The one that creates evil is always the Devil. The one
who creates good is always God.
I would also add that
your 'God' created 'Satan' with the foreknowledge that he would turn into
such a sparkling -- and evil -- personality, as well. What say you to
*that*?
I say you are completely wrong. God does not create 'Satan' the Devil
either. Devil is nothing but an imagination in the ignorant human
mind. In reality, there is no Devil.
just like there's no christian god either. good, case closed
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 01:58:50 PM |
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"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:g4jt92dhasr2jepa1nmga3ujoqorohhmfu@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 12:35:42 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:1kft92p3vu0ol60n8iee6v8h3d87ru8pv6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:54:00 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:L5xng.6602$w84.6254@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
Here is an easy one for all you god worshippers.
Present ANY OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that your god actually
exists.
Can't be done. However I can present objective verifiable evidence that
the
god does not exist i.e. the christian god is :
1. loving
2. omnipotent
3. all knowing
Therefore a loving, omnipotent, all knowing god would not allow a
peodophile
to rape a 3 year old girl - else he wouldn't love her and if he didn't
love
her (and her parents, relatives) then he would not allow the child to be
raped. Simple.
You are deceived by the evil of the world. It is Satan the Devil that
rules this evil world. The fact you can not find God in the world
where devil is god does not prove God's nonexistence. It only proves
truth and justice can not exist in the world of evil you are showing
to us. Yes, in your sick evil world, there is no God. You have proved
it perfectly. Congratulations!
Are you implying that there are really *two* worlds: one in which
Christians
live and is governed by 'God', and the other, one that 'non-believers'
live
in and which is governed by 'Satan'? Is that it? Chew on that one for a
while before responding.
The world where God rules is called heaven. The world where the Devil
rules is called hell. What is there too hard to understand?
Well yes it is. I obviously don't have the degree of intelligence you
possess. So it his hard for me to fathom some of the things said about 'God'
and 'Satan' by Christians. It, at times, so ridiculous that my mind is sent
reeling.
As for the 'evil of the word', your 'God' created it,
No, you got it wrong. God does not create evil. God defines evil.
Need I cite Is. 45:7, Jn. 1:3, and Col. 1:16 here? If 'God' created
'everything' in existence, 'seen and *unseen*', reason would dictate that
'God' created evil. Wouldn't you agree? And, by the way: How can you define
something which doesn't even exist, if God didn't bring 'evil into
existence?
had the free-will
*not* to create it, and maliciously and malevolently *chose* to do so --
taking some of Christian theology to its natural conclusion.
That's your mistake due to your failure in understanding the Bible
correctly.
I based my assertion on the biblical statement that 'God' created man in his
'own image' (Gen. 1:27); assumed 'God' possessed the 'free-will' to either
'create' the universe, or not to. And choose to 'create' evil, or *not* to.
He obviously consciously *chose* create evil -- and did so -- if my
understanding of Christian theology is taken to its logical conclusion.
So that makes
your 'God' even *more* evil than evil; he created it!
No, he didn't. The one that creates evil is always the Devil.
And *who* created 'the Devil'? And how can 'the Devil' create evil without
the permission of 'God', pray tell? Wouldn't 'God' have a say-so in any of
that?
The one
who creates good is always God.
How can you *possibly* make such a bold-face statement like that? Where's
the proof of what you're saying? You're making that up because that's what
you *believe*, aren't you? Where's the Beef, my man?
I would also add that
your 'God' created 'Satan' with the foreknowledge that he would turn into
such a sparkling -- and evil -- personality, as well. What say you to
*that*?
I say you are completely wrong.
Need I point to Is. 45:7, Jn. 1:3, and Col. 1:16 again? Read and understand
your bible. It will help you to realize what kind of rubbish it contains, as
well as make you more aware of theological inconsistencies.
God does not create 'Satan' the Devil
either.
If you remember, the bible says that 'Satan' was once one of 'God's'
remarkably good 'angels'. Angels, you will recall, were created by ...
*who*? Take a guess. That's right, 'God'. 'Lucifer' got too big for his
britches, rebelled against 'God' and was rewarded for his impertinence by
being able to run roughshod over a virtually defenseless human race.
Remember, now? Based on the bible and Christian dogma and traditon, 'God'
created 'Satan' I know that's hard to swallow for you, but the fact is
inescapable -- that's *if* you're going to stick to the Christian claims of
'truth'.
Devil is nothing but an imagination in the ignorant human
mind. In reality, there is no Devil.
Well said!! (I don't know if you can hear it but there is a *roaring* sound
of imaginary applause for your admission going on right now, my man! 'Hey
you people!!! Keep it down to a decibel level of a Rob Zombie concert, would
you???' There, that should do it. Anyway, *that* was using your noodle.We
just need to work on ...
Greywolf
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 03:11:47 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:58:50 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:g4jt92dhasr2jepa1nmga3ujoqorohhmfu@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 12:35:42 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:1kft92p3vu0ol60n8iee6v8h3d87ru8pv6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:54:00 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:L5xng.6602$w84.6254@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
Here is an easy one for all you god worshippers.
Present ANY OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that your god actually
exists.
Can't be done. However I can present objective verifiable evidence that
the
god does not exist i.e. the christian god is :
1. loving
2. omnipotent
3. all knowing
Therefore a loving, omnipotent, all knowing god would not allow a
peodophile
to rape a 3 year old girl - else he wouldn't love her and if he didn't
love
her (and her parents, relatives) then he would not allow the child to be
raped. Simple.
You are deceived by the evil of the world. It is Satan the Devil that
rules this evil world. The fact you can not find God in the world
where devil is god does not prove God's nonexistence. It only proves
truth and justice can not exist in the world of evil you are showing
to us. Yes, in your sick evil world, there is no God. You have proved
it perfectly. Congratulations!
Are you implying that there are really *two* worlds: one in which
Christians
live and is governed by 'God', and the other, one that 'non-believers'
live
in and which is governed by 'Satan'? Is that it? Chew on that one for a
while before responding.
The world where God rules is called heaven. The world where the Devil
rules is called hell. What is there too hard to understand?
Well yes it is. I obviously don't have the degree of intelligence you
possess. So it his hard for me to fathom some of the things said about 'God'
and 'Satan' by Christians. It, at times, so ridiculous that my mind is sent
reeling.
As for the 'evil of the word', your 'God' created it,
No, you got it wrong. God does not create evil. God defines evil.
Need I cite Is. 45:7, Jn. 1:3, and Col. 1:16 here? If 'God' created
'everything' in existence, 'seen and *unseen*', reason would dictate that
'God' created evil. Wouldn't you agree?
No, I don't agree. Jehovah is an evil lord. It is not God. It is an
impostor.
And, by the way: How can you define
something which doesn't even exist, if God didn't bring 'evil into
existence?
God defines evil by being good. Because God is always good, against
God is evil. That is how God defines the good and evil.
had the free-will
*not* to create it, and maliciously and malevolently *chose* to do so --
taking some of Christian theology to its natural conclusion.
That's your mistake due to your failure in understanding the Bible
correctly.
I based my assertion on the biblical statement that 'God' created man in his
'own image' (Gen. 1:27); assumed 'God' possessed the 'free-will' to either
'create' the universe, or not to. And choose to 'create' evil, or *not* to.
He obviously consciously *chose* create evil -- and did so -- if my
understanding of Christian theology is taken to its logical conclusion.
God created the universe, yes. God does not create evil. Only those
who are against God can create evil since evil is defined as against
God.
So that makes
your 'God' even *more* evil than evil; he created it!
No, he didn't. The one that creates evil is always the Devil.
And *who* created 'the Devil'? And how can 'the Devil' create evil without
the permission of 'God', pray tell? Wouldn't 'God' have a say-so in any of
that?
Man created the Devil by forsaking God, and no, God has nothing to say
about what the devil would or would not do. In the hell where the
devil rules, there is no God.
The one
who creates good is always God.
How can you *possibly* make such a bold-face statement like that? Where's
the proof of what you're saying? You're making that up because that's what
you *believe*, aren't you? Where's the Beef, my man?
That is a simple fact not for me to prove but for you to find out
yourself. All the good of the world comes from God. If it is not from
God, it is not the real good.
I would also add that
your 'God' created 'Satan' with the foreknowledge that he would turn into
such a sparkling -- and evil -- personality, as well. What say you to
*that*?
I say you are completely wrong.
Need I point to Is. 45:7, Jn. 1:3, and Col. 1:16 again? Read and understand
your bible. It will help you to realize what kind of rubbish it contains, as
well as make you more aware of theological inconsistencies.
You need to realize the evil god is not the true God.
God does not create 'Satan' the Devil
either.
If you remember, the bible says that 'Satan' was once one of 'God's'
remarkably good 'angels'. Angels, you will recall, were created by ...
*who*? Take a guess. That's right, 'God'. 'Lucifer' got too big for his
britches, rebelled against 'God' and was rewarded for his impertinence by
being able to run roughshod over a virtually defenseless human race.
Remember, now? Based on the bible and Christian dogma and traditon, 'God'
created 'Satan' I know that's hard to swallow for you, but the fact is
inescapable -- that's *if* you're going to stick to the Christian claims of
'truth'.
That Satan is not the Devil I'm talking about. That Satan is the
falling angel who will eventually fly again because he is God's
perfect creation as Adam and Eve are God's perfect creation. The
Devil, on the other hand, never existed until Adam and Eve sinned. It
is never part of God's original creation. It is only a figment of
imagination in people's mind.
Devil is nothing but an imagination in the ignorant human
mind. In reality, there is no Devil.
Well said!! (I don't know if you can hear it but there is a *roaring* sound
of imaginary applause for your admission going on right now, my man! 'Hey
you people!!! Keep it down to a decibel level of a Rob Zombie concert, would
you???' There, that should do it. Anyway, *that* was using your noodle.We
just need to work on ...
Just to be clear. In reality, there is no Devil, but only God who is
the truth.
Greywolf
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| User: "Mary Walker" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 03:32:36 PM |
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">
Just to be clear. In reality, there is no Devil, but only God who is
the truth.
Hi Eric,
I'd just like to clarify exactly what you believe. Please tell me if I've
misquoted or got anything wrong.
1. There is no Devil, but only God who is the truth (conflicting with 9)
2. Man can kill God (but only in their imaginations).
3. God cannot be killed in reality.
4. God is only in Heaven and everything God does is good.
5. God cannot interfere with the actions of man because God is in heaven.
6. God is with the victim of a crime even though he is in heaven (also, God
suffers with the victim).
7. Evil people will be dropped into Hell by God, but presumably the Hell
won't have a devil (ref point 1).
8. God created everything ???
9. It is Satan the Devil that rules this evil world (conflicting with point
1).
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's in
heaven doing good.
11. God IS the victim of a crime.
Have I got it right ??
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 04:23:31 PM |
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"Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com> wrote in message
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Just to be clear. In reality, there is no Devil, but only God who is
the truth.
Hi Eric,
I'd just like to clarify exactly what you believe. Please tell me if I've
misquoted or got anything wrong.
1. There is no Devil, but only God who is the truth (conflicting with 9)
2. Man can kill God (but only in their imaginations).
3. God cannot be killed in reality.
4. God is only in Heaven and everything God does is good.
5. God cannot interfere with the actions of man because God is in heaven.
6. God is with the victim of a crime even though he is in heaven (also,
God suffers with the victim).
7. Evil people will be dropped into Hell by God, but presumably the Hell
won't have a devil (ref point 1).
8. God created everything ???
9. It is Satan the Devil that rules this evil world (conflicting with
point 1).
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's in
heaven doing good.
11. God IS the victim of a crime.
Have I got it right ??
LMAO, christian circular logic
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| User: "John Jacobson Formerly Saved" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 06:23:20 PM |
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Mary Walker <mary@walker.com> wrote in message
<449ef2f9_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's in
heaven doing good.
I particularly liked that one. God's too busy being perfectly good to actually
do anything good here.
--
***Free Your Mind***
Posted with JSNewsreader Preview 0.9.4.2565
[ Followup-To: alt.religion.christian ]
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 03:40:32 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:32:36 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
">
Just to be clear. In reality, there is no Devil, but only God who is
the truth.
Hi Eric,
I'd just like to clarify exactly what you believe. Please tell me if I've
misquoted or got anything wrong.
1. There is no Devil, but only God who is the truth (conflicting with 9)
2. Man can kill God (but only in their imaginations).
3. God cannot be killed in reality.
4. God is only in Heaven and everything God does is good.
5. God cannot interfere with the actions of man because God is in heaven.
6. God is with the victim of a crime even though he is in heaven (also, God
suffers with the victim).
7. Evil people will be dropped into Hell by God, but presumably the Hell
won't have a devil (ref point 1).
8. God created everything ???
9. It is Satan the Devil that rules this evil world (conflicting with point
1).
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's in
heaven doing good.
11. God IS the victim of a crime.
Have I got it right ??
Nope.
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 04:23:16 PM |
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"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:g0tt92183rehaukeh0dvftv04a1aodf94m@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:32:36 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
">
Just to be clear. In reality, there is no Devil, but only God who is
the truth.
Hi Eric,
I'd just like to clarify exactly what you believe. Please tell me if I've
misquoted or got anything wrong.
1. There is no Devil, but only God who is the truth (conflicting with 9)
2. Man can kill God (but only in their imaginations).
3. God cannot be killed in reality.
4. God is only in Heaven and everything God does is good.
5. God cannot interfere with the actions of man because God is in heaven.
6. God is with the victim of a crime even though he is in heaven (also,
God
suffers with the victim).
7. Evil people will be dropped into Hell by God, but presumably the Hell
won't have a devil (ref point 1).
8. God created everything ???
9. It is Satan the Devil that rules this evil world (conflicting with
point
1).
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's in
heaven doing good.
11. God IS the victim of a crime.
Have I got it right ??
Nope.
she quoted everything you said eric.
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| User: "Mary Walker" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 04:07:49 PM |
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Hi Eric,
I'd just like to clarify exactly what you believe. Please tell me if I've
misquoted or got anything wrong.
1. There is no Devil, but only God who is the truth (conflicting with 9)
2. Man can kill God (but only in their imaginations).
3. God cannot be killed in reality.
4. God is only in Heaven and everything God does is good.
5. God cannot interfere with the actions of man because God is in heaven.
6. God is with the victim of a crime even though he is in heaven (also,
God
suffers with the victim).
7. Evil people will be dropped into Hell by God, but presumably the Hell
won't have a devil (ref point 1).
8. God created everything ???
9. It is Satan the Devil that rules this evil world (conflicting with
point
1).
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's in
heaven doing good.
11. God IS the victim of a crime.
Have I got it right ??
Nope.
Well, they're ALL your points. Live with it.
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 06:23:56 PM |
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"Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com> wrote in message
news:449efb3a_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
Hi Eric,
I'd just like to clarify exactly what you believe. Please tell me if
I've
misquoted or got anything wrong.
1. There is no Devil, but only God who is the truth (conflicting with 9)
2. Man can kill God (but only in their imaginations).
3. God cannot be killed in reality.
4. God is only in Heaven and everything God does is good.
5. God cannot interfere with the actions of man because God is in heaven.
6. God is with the victim of a crime even though he is in heaven (also,
God
suffers with the victim).
7. Evil people will be dropped into Hell by God, but presumably the Hell
won't have a devil (ref point 1).
8. God created everything ???
9. It is Satan the Devil that rules this evil world (conflicting with
point
1).
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's in
heaven doing good.
11. God IS the victim of a crime.
Have I got it right ??
Nope.
Well, they're ALL your points. Live with it.
I think he's got the 'hots' for you. (Remember, I lost my sanity months ago.
So don't get mad at me.)
Greywolf
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 04:50:09 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:07:49 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
Hi Eric,
I'd just like to clarify exactly what you believe. Please tell me if I've
misquoted or got anything wrong.
1. There is no Devil, but only God who is the truth (conflicting with 9)
2. Man can kill God (but only in their imaginations).
3. God cannot be killed in reality.
4. God is only in Heaven and everything God does is good.
5. God cannot interfere with the actions of man because God is in heaven.
6. God is with the victim of a crime even though he is in heaven (also,
God
suffers with the victim).
7. Evil people will be dropped into Hell by God, but presumably the Hell
won't have a devil (ref point 1).
8. God created everything ???
9. It is Satan the Devil that rules this evil world (conflicting with
point
1).
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's in
heaven doing good.
11. God IS the victim of a crime.
Have I got it right ??
Nope.
Well, they're ALL your points. Live with it.
No, those are all your misconceptions. You live with it.
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| User: "Mary Walker" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 04:59:37 PM |
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"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:m21u92lonpdgs18v3h8hc0ii7kem0hpril@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:07:49 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
Hi Eric,
I'd just like to clarify exactly what you believe. Please tell me if
I've
misquoted or got anything wrong.
1. There is no Devil, but only God who is the truth (conflicting with 9)
2. Man can kill God (but only in their imaginations).
3. God cannot be killed in reality.
4. God is only in Heaven and everything God does is good.
5. God cannot interfere with the actions of man because God is in
heaven.
6. God is with the victim of a crime even though he is in heaven (also,
God
suffers with the victim).
7. Evil people will be dropped into Hell by God, but presumably the Hell
won't have a devil (ref point 1).
8. God created everything ???
9. It is Satan the Devil that rules this evil world (conflicting with
point
1).
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's in
heaven doing good.
11. God IS the victim of a crime.
Have I got it right ??
Nope.
Well, they're ALL your points. Live with it.
No, those are all your misconceptions. You live with it.
Well, could you go through the 11 points and explain why they are
misconceptions ??? I'd really appreciate that.
.
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 05:04:12 PM |
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"Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com> wrote in message
news:449f0756$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:m21u92lonpdgs18v3h8hc0ii7kem0hpril@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:07:49 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
Hi Eric,
I'd just like to clarify exactly what you believe. Please tell me if
I've
misquoted or got anything wrong.
1. There is no Devil, but only God who is the truth (conflicting with
9)
2. Man can kill God (but only in their imaginations).
3. God cannot be killed in reality.
4. God is only in Heaven and everything God does is good.
5. God cannot interfere with the actions of man because God is in
heaven.
6. God is with the victim of a crime even though he is in heaven (also,
God
suffers with the victim).
7. Evil people will be dropped into Hell by God, but presumably the
Hell
won't have a devil (ref point 1).
8. God created everything ???
9. It is Satan the Devil that rules this evil world (conflicting with
point
1).
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's in
heaven doing good.
11. God IS the victim of a crime.
Have I got it right ??
Nope.
Well, they're ALL your points. Live with it.
No, those are all your misconceptions. You live with it.
Well, could you go through the 11 points and explain why they are
misconceptions ??? I'd really appreciate that.
mary, no no, now you're asking the bainwashed christian moron eric to
explain why the points he made earlier are now all of a sudden invalid.
I detect a brainwashed christian moron going into meltdown mode soon.
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 05:07:14 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:59:37 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:m21u92lonpdgs18v3h8hc0ii7kem0hpril@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:07:49 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
Hi Eric,
I'd just like to clarify exactly what you believe. Please tell me if
I've
misquoted or got anything wrong.
1. There is no Devil, but only God who is the truth (conflicting with 9)
2. Man can kill God (but only in their imaginations).
3. God cannot be killed in reality.
4. God is only in Heaven and everything God does is good.
5. God cannot interfere with the actions of man because God is in
heaven.
6. God is with the victim of a crime even though he is in heaven (also,
God
suffers with the victim).
7. Evil people will be dropped into Hell by God, but presumably the Hell
won't have a devil (ref point 1).
8. God created everything ???
9. It is Satan the Devil that rules this evil world (conflicting with
point
1).
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's in
heaven doing good.
11. God IS the victim of a crime.
Have I got it right ??
Nope.
Well, they're ALL your points. Live with it.
No, those are all your misconceptions. You live with it.
Well, could you go through the 11 points and explain why they are
misconceptions ??? I'd really appreciate that.
You can put them back where they were within their original context to
realize your error.
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| User: "Mary Walker" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 05:47:49 PM |
|
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"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:p32u92hiucmjku8gehqb3ejgi8f1fs9379@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:59:37 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:m21u92lonpdgs18v3h8hc0ii7kem0hpril@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:07:49 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
Hi Eric,
I'd just like to clarify exactly what you believe. Please tell me if
I've
misquoted or got anything wrong.
1. There is no Devil, but only God who is the truth (conflicting with
9)
2. Man can kill God (but only in their imaginations).
3. God cannot be killed in reality.
4. God is only in Heaven and everything God does is good.
5. God cannot interfere with the actions of man because God is in
heaven.
6. God is with the victim of a crime even though he is in heaven
(also,
God
suffers with the victim).
7. Evil people will be dropped into Hell by God, but presumably the
Hell
won't have a devil (ref point 1).
8. God created everything ???
9. It is Satan the Devil that rules this evil world (conflicting with
point
1).
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's in
heaven doing good.
11. God IS the victim of a crime.
Have I got it right ??
Nope.
Well, they're ALL your points. Live with it.
No, those are all your misconceptions. You live with it.
Well, could you go through the 11 points and explain why they are
misconceptions ??? I'd really appreciate that.
You can put them back where they were within their original context to
realize your error.
I can help you with that ... thhe original context, if you remember, was to
do with children getting raped and your God standing by but doing nothing to
help. You can use that context for all 11 points please.
.
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
|
| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
25 Jun 2006 05:59:35 PM |
|
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"Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com> wrote in message
news:449f12a7_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:p32u92hiucmjku8gehqb3ejgi8f1fs9379@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:59:37 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:m21u92lonpdgs18v3h8hc0ii7kem0hpril@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:07:49 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
Hi Eric,
I'd just like to clarify exactly what you believe. Please tell me if
I've
misquoted or got anything wrong.
1. There is no Devil, but only God who is the truth (conflicting with
9)
2. Man can kill God (but only in their imaginations).
3. God cannot be killed in reality.
4. God is only in Heaven and everything God does is good.
5. God cannot interfere with the actions of man because God is in
heaven.
6. God is with the victim of a crime even though he is in heaven
(also,
God
suffers with the victim).
7. Evil people will be dropped into Hell by God, but presumably the
Hell
won't have a devil (ref point 1).
8. God created everything ???
9. It is Satan the Devil that rules this evil world (conflicting with
point
1).
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's
in
heaven doing good.
11. God IS the victim of a crime.
Have I got it right ??
Nope.
Well, they're ALL your points. Live with it.
No, those are all your misconceptions. You live with it.
Well, could you go through the 11 points and explain why they are
misconceptions ??? I'd really appreciate that.
You can put them back where they were within their original context to
realize your error.
I can help you with that ... thhe original context, if you remember, was
to do with children getting raped and your God standing by but doing
nothing to help. You can use that context for all 11 points please.
LMAO. I want to see what the brainwashed christian moron will reply with to
your post !
You have the CONTEXT line covered, so he can't use that one.
LOL.
.
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
26 Jun 2006 11:31:54 AM |
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:47:49 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:p32u92hiucmjku8gehqb3ejgi8f1fs9379@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:59:37 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:m21u92lonpdgs18v3h8hc0ii7kem0hpril@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:07:49 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
Hi Eric,
I'd just like to clarify exactly what you believe. Please tell me if
I've
misquoted or got anything wrong.
1. There is no Devil, but only God who is the truth (conflicting with
9)
2. Man can kill God (but only in their imaginations).
3. God cannot be killed in reality.
4. God is only in Heaven and everything God does is good.
5. God cannot interfere with the actions of man because God is in
heaven.
6. God is with the victim of a crime even though he is in heaven
(also,
God
suffers with the victim).
7. Evil people will be dropped into Hell by God, but presumably the
Hell
won't have a devil (ref point 1).
8. God created everything ???
9. It is Satan the Devil that rules this evil world (conflicting with
point
1).
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's in
heaven doing good.
11. God IS the victim of a crime.
Have I got it right ??
Nope.
Well, they're ALL your points. Live with it.
No, those are all your misconceptions. You live with it.
Well, could you go through the 11 points and explain why they are
misconceptions ??? I'd really appreciate that.
You can put them back where they were within their original context to
realize your error.
I can help you with that ... thhe original context, if you remember, was to
do with children getting raped and your God standing by but doing nothing to
help. You can use that context for all 11 points please.
I'm so sorry that I have made serious mistake. I must admit that I was
so caught up by the SICK logic to blame God for the evil of man which
is a direct result of offending and killing God himself that I failed
to realize that my opponent has no real intention for an honest debate
but only to mix up the logic by creating false premises to repeat what
has already been refuted to confuse the issue. Now I have realized my
mistake. I'm not going to repeat everything all over again to waste my
time on this issue.
.
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| User: "Mary Walker" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
26 Jun 2006 11:57:03 AM |
|
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"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:7920a25hia60a1gkom293io6tbnatv5eq3@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:47:49 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:p32u92hiucmjku8gehqb3ejgi8f1fs9379@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:59:37 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:m21u92lonpdgs18v3h8hc0ii7kem0hpril@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:07:49 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
Hi Eric,
I'd just like to clarify exactly what you believe. Please tell me
if
I've
misquoted or got anything wrong.
1. There is no Devil, but only God who is the truth (conflicting
with
9)
2. Man can kill God (but only in their imaginations).
3. God cannot be killed in reality.
4. God is only in Heaven and everything God does is good.
5. God cannot interfere with the actions of man because God is in
heaven.
6. God is with the victim of a crime even though he is in heaven
(also,
God
suffers with the victim).
7. Evil people will be dropped into Hell by God, but presumably the
Hell
won't have a devil (ref point 1).
8. God created everything ???
9. It is Satan the Devil that rules this evil world (conflicting
with
point
1).
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's
in
heaven doing good.
11. God IS the victim of a crime.
Have I got it right ??
Nope.
Well, they're ALL your points. Live with it.
No, those are all your misconceptions. You live with it.
Well, could you go through the 11 points and explain why they are
misconceptions ??? I'd really appreciate that.
You can put them back where they were within their original context to
realize your error.
I can help you with that ... thhe original context, if you remember, was
to
do with children getting raped and your God standing by but doing nothing
to
help. You can use that context for all 11 points please.
I'm so sorry that I have made serious mistake. I must admit that I was
so caught up by the SICK logic to blame God for the evil of man which
is a direct result of offending and killing God himself that I failed
to realize that my opponent has no real intention for an honest debate
but only to mix up the logic by creating false premises to repeat what
has already been refuted to confuse the issue. Now I have realized my
mistake. I'm not going to repeat everything all over again to waste my
time on this issue.
I would not want to confuse the issue. The LAST thing I would want to do is
confuse this issue. What is so confusing about an omnipresent, omnipotent
God which cannot be killed failing to protect a little child as she is raped
..... oh, but the God does suffer with the child - that's mighty good of him.
.
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
26 Jun 2006 05:34:24 PM |
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I would not want to confuse the issue. The LAST thing I would want to do
is
confuse this issue. What is so confusing about an omnipresent, omnipotent
God which cannot be killed failing to protect a little child as she is
raped .... oh, but the God does suffer with the child - that's mighty good
of him.
that's mighty white of this god.
.
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
|
| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
26 Jun 2006 05:33:37 PM |
|
|
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:7920a25hia60a1gkom293io6tbnatv5eq3@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:47:49 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:p32u92hiucmjku8gehqb3ejgi8f1fs9379@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:59:37 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:m21u92lonpdgs18v3h8hc0ii7kem0hpril@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:07:49 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
Hi Eric,
I'd just like to clarify exactly what you believe. Please tell me
if
I've
misquoted or got anything wrong.
1. There is no Devil, but only God who is the truth (conflicting
with
9)
2. Man can kill God (but only in their imaginations).
3. God cannot be killed in reality.
4. God is only in Heaven and everything God does is good.
5. God cannot interfere with the actions of man because God is in
heaven.
6. God is with the victim of a crime even though he is in heaven
(also,
God
suffers with the victim).
7. Evil people will be dropped into Hell by God, but presumably the
Hell
won't have a devil (ref point 1).
8. God created everything ???
9. It is Satan the Devil that rules this evil world (conflicting
with
point
1).
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's
in
heaven doing good.
11. God IS the victim of a crime.
Have I got it right ??
Nope.
Well, they're ALL your points. Live with it.
No, those are all your misconceptions. You live with it.
Well, could you go through the 11 points and explain why they are
misconceptions ??? I'd really appreciate that.
You can put them back where they were within their original context to
realize your error.
I can help you with that ... thhe original context, if you remember, was
to
do with children getting raped and your God standing by but doing nothing
to
help. You can use that context for all 11 points please.
I'm so sorry that I have made serious mistake. I must admit that I was
so caught up by the SICK logic to blame God for the evil of man which
is a direct result of offending and killing God himself that I failed
to realize that my opponent has no real intention for an honest debate
but only to mix up the logic by creating false premises to repeat what
has already been refuted to confuse the issue. Now I have realized my
mistake. I'm not going to repeat everything all over again to waste my
time on this issue.
so in other words eric,. you admit defeat, and you have no answer as to why
your christian
god is a COLD-HEARTED ***** and stands idly by and does nothing while a
child is
being RAPED and MURDERED
case closed, thanks
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| User: "John Jacobson Formerly Saved" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
29 Jun 2006 09:40:50 PM |
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Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
<7920a25hia60a1gkom293io6tbnatv5eq3@4ax.com>
I must admit that I was
so caught up by the SICK logic to blame God for the evil of man which
is a direct result of offending and killing God himself that
Nobody's blaming god for the rapes themselves*, we are blaming him for doing
nothing to stop them. Even if the rapes themselves are the result of "the evil
of man", surely you must realize that apathetic voyeurism is an entirely
different evil. It is like when someone watches a preventable murder. They are
not guilty of murder, the killer is, but they are guilty of voyeurism and not
helping someone in dire need.
*Well, actually I suppose we could, after all if god designed the entire
universe knowing exactly everything that would transpire, then he is to blame
for everything that happens as a result.
--
***Free Your Mind***
Posted with JSNewsreader Preview 0.9.4.2586
[ Followup-To: alt.religion.christian ]
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
26 Jun 2006 09:12:16 PM |
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Eric Brze wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:47:49 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:p32u92hiucmjku8gehqb3ejgi8f1fs9379@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:59:37 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:m21u92lonpdgs18v3h8hc0ii7kem0hpril@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:07:49 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
Hi Eric,
I'd just like to clarify exactly what you believe. Please tell me if
I've
misquoted or got anything wrong.
1. There is no Devil, but only God who is the truth (conflicting with
9)
2. Man can kill God (but only in their imaginations).
3. God cannot be killed in reality.
4. God is only in Heaven and everything God does is good.
5. God cannot interfere with the actions of man because God is in
heaven.
6. God is with the victim of a crime even though he is in heaven
(also,
God
suffers with the victim).
7. Evil people will be dropped into Hell by God, but presumably the
Hell
won't have a devil (ref point 1).
8. God created everything ???
9. It is Satan the Devil that rules this evil world (conflicting with
point
1).
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's in
heaven doing good.
11. God IS the victim of a crime.
Have I got it right ??
Nope.
Well, they're ALL your points. Live with it.
No, those are all your misconceptions. You live with it.
Well, could you go through the 11 points and explain why they are
misconceptions ??? I'd really appreciate that.
You can put them back where they were within their original context to
realize your error.
I can help you with that ... thhe original context, if you remember, was to
do with children getting raped and your God standing by but doing nothing to
help. You can use that context for all 11 points please.
I'm so sorry that I have made serious mistake. I must admit that I was
so caught up by the SICK logic to blame God for the evil of man which
is a direct result of offending and killing God himself that I failed
to realize that my opponent has no real intention for an honest debate
but only to mix up the logic by creating false premises to repeat what
has already been refuted to confuse the issue. Now I have realized my
mistake. I'm not going to repeat everything all over again to waste my
time on this issue.
Ya know, there are times when I really hate the fact that I plonked this
sick little ***** on my regular news. Then again, it's always fun to go
back to the feed and read what the little pissant is posting from time
to time.
Not that I'll let him out mind you. His noise sucks up to much band
width in interrupts my porn downloads. :-D
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 a=45, m=23, f=20
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "bass" |
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| Title: Re: A GOD CHALLENGE |
26 Jun 2006 11:54:31 AM |
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On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:31:54 -0400, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:47:49 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:p32u92hiucmjku8gehqb3ejgi8f1fs9379@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:59:37 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:m21u92lonpdgs18v3h8hc0ii7kem0hpril@4ax.com...
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:07:49 +0100, "Mary Walker" <mary@walker.com>
wrote:
Hi Eric,
I'd just like to clarify exactly what you believe. Please tell me if
I've
misquoted or got anything wrong.
1. There is no Devil, but only God who is the truth (conflicting with
9)
2. Man can kill God (but only in their imaginations).
3. God cannot be killed in reality.
4. God is only in Heaven and everything God does is good.
5. God cannot interfere with the actions of man because God is in
heaven.
6. God is with the victim of a crime even though he is in heaven
(also,
God
suffers with the victim).
7. Evil people will be dropped into Hell by God, but presumably the
Hell
won't have a devil (ref point 1).
8. God created everything ???
9. It is Satan the Devil that rules this evil world (conflicting with
point
1).
10 God cannot save a child who is being brutally raped because he's in
heaven doing good.
11. God IS the victim of a crime.
Have I got it right ??
Nope.
Well, they're ALL your points. Live with it.
No, those are all your misconceptions. You live with it.
Well, could you go through the 11 points and explain why they are
misconceptions ??? I'd really appreciate that.
You can put them back where they were within their original context to
realize your error.
I can help you with that ... thhe original context, if you remember, was to
do with children getting raped and your God standing by but doing nothing to
help. You can use that context for all 11 points please.
I'm so sorry that I have made serious mistake. I must admit that I was
so caught up by the SICK logic to blame God for the evil of man which
is a direct result of offending and killing God himself that I failed
to realize that my opponent has no real intention for an honest debate
but only to mix up the logic by creating false premises to repeat what
has already been refuted to confuse the issue. Now I have realized my
mistake. I'm not going to repeat everything all over again to waste my
time on this issue.
See ... I told you she is the No. 1 Dumbass Hypocrite!
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