Religions > Atheism > A good portion of our modern science was founded by creationists.
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"The Church of The Painful Truth" |
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05 Mar 2004 10:10:48 PM |
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A good portion of our modern science was founded by creationists. |
A good portion of our modern science was founded by creationists.
Francis and Roger Bacon.
Galileo=Heliocentricity
Sir Issac Newton= Calculas and gravity, particle theory of light
Joseph Lister= Antiseptic surgery
Matthew Maury- Discovery of oceanography from Psalms 8:8
Louis Pastuer = sterilization, bacteriology he is one of the greatest
biologists.
Johann Kepler =celestial mechanics astronomy
Robert Boyle= founder of chemistry ( a Christian ).
William Harvey= circulation of the blood.
Modern discoveries by Christians= Michael faraday -made the generator and
electro magnetic induction
Samuel Morris made the telegraph and his first words Numbers 23:23 "what God
has wrought."
James Simpson was the founder of ginecology founded chloroform on Adams deep
sleep (he said his greatest discovery was that he had a savior.)
Charles Barage= Computer, speedometer, opthamaloscope ( a Christian)
Carolus Lineaus= Gave us the family of species the Genesis kind (believer in
the Bible) Taxonomy.
Nicolas Steno= Father of the science of stratography
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| User: "mel turner" |
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07 Mar 2004 07:37:24 AM |
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In article <6m7m40l41vfjjhnjng43nn7g4v0fscgl0q@4ax.com>, [Elroy
Willis] wrote...
john_SPAM@wilkins.id.au (John Wilkins) wrote in alt.atheism
Kadaitcha Man <nospam@kadaitcha.cx> wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
Kadaitcha Man <nospam@kadaitcha.cx> wrote in alt.atheism
Mike Dworetsky wrote:
Being Christian (or anything else) does not imply support for
creationism. Generally the opposite.
*blink*
Are you a creationist?
I'm a Christian. Whilst I don't deny that evolution has it's place for
explaining speciation
And changes within species
in vertebrates and a very narrow class of arthropods,
And molluscs and annelids and nematodes, and plants, and fungi, and
algae, and bacteria? Why impose any limits on the speciations
explained by evolution?
What does "a very narrow class of arthropods" mean? Just fruit flies,
or just Insecta? Why not trilobites and pycnogonids and scorpions and
centipedes [that is, if they're not to be included]?
that we evolved out of some primordial soup is as equally valid a
proposition as is that we were created. What the moron up there just
wrote, in effect, was that Christians generally don't believe in an act of
creation.
No. "Creationism" has come to mean something much narrower than the
proposition that a creator God is somehow behind it all. Many who
fully agree with the latter idea would be considered "theistic
evolutionists", not "creationists"
Sheesh. I'd like to see some supporting references for that
statement. It's absurd.
No he didn't. He said that generally Christians aren't creation*ists* -
that is, do not assert that God created the earth as it now is at the
beginning, or that all species are exactly now as they were created,
pace the Fall.
Believing in a creator god is not creationism, in the modern sense.
When do the Christians who believe in evolution think their god
"breathed life" into the first human or humans? Was it before those
humans who made cave paintings and tools out of stone and bone?
Before humans conquered fire? Exactly when was it, according to
them? Any idea?
It likely varies among Christian "theistic evolutionists", but my
impression is that they'll quite commonly agree with the modern
scientific view that humans share common ancestors with the rest
of life on earth. So, the "breathing of life" bit would presumably
refer to the original abiogenesis of the first life on earth.
cheers
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| User: "Kadaitcha Man" |
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07 Mar 2004 03:47:01 PM |
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John Wilkins wrote:
Kadaitcha Man <nospam@kadaitcha.cx> wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
Kadaitcha Man <nospam@kadaitcha.cx> wrote in alt.atheism
Mike Dworetsky wrote:
Being Christian (or anything else) does not imply support for
creationism. Generally the opposite.
*blink*
Are you a creationist?
I'm a Christian. Whilst I don't deny that evolution has it's place
for explaining speciation in vertebrates and a very narrow class of
arthropods, that we evolved out of some primordial soup is as
equally valid a proposition as is that we were created. What the
moron up there just wrote, in effect, was that Christians generally
don't believe in an act of creation. Sheesh. I'd like to see some
supporting references for that statement. It's absurd.
No he didn't.
I used the words in "effect". And the defintion of creationist includes
those who believe in an act of creation, not just fundamentalist loonies who
think the earth is 6000 years old.
He said that generally Christians aren't creation*ists*
- that is, do not assert that God created the earth as it now is at
the beginning, or that all species are exactly now as they were
created, pace the Fall.
Believing in a creator god is not creationism, in the modern sense.
For reasonable people that isn't an unreasonable position, but reasonable
people do not post in alt.atheism so it must be clarified.
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| User: "John Wilkins" |
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07 Mar 2004 04:55:15 PM |
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In article <lyeOWUS4u0Zc8B1D4D1187D14C18SYHtLkzcBX1X@kadaitcha.cx>,
"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam@kadaitcha.cx> wrote:
John Wilkins wrote:
Kadaitcha Man <nospam@kadaitcha.cx> wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
Kadaitcha Man <nospam@kadaitcha.cx> wrote in alt.atheism
Mike Dworetsky wrote:
Being Christian (or anything else) does not imply support for
creationism. Generally the opposite.
*blink*
Are you a creationist?
I'm a Christian. Whilst I don't deny that evolution has it's place
for explaining speciation in vertebrates and a very narrow class of
arthropods, that we evolved out of some primordial soup is as
equally valid a proposition as is that we were created. What the
moron up there just wrote, in effect, was that Christians generally
don't believe in an act of creation. Sheesh. I'd like to see some
supporting references for that statement. It's absurd.
No he didn't.
I used the words in "effect". And the defintion of creationist includes
those who believe in an act of creation, not just fundamentalist loonies who
think the earth is 6000 years old.
If you want to get technical, "creationism" means the doctrine that each
soul is specially created at conception. The notion that God is the
Creator of all that is has never been known as creation*ism*, but rather
as theism.
He said that generally Christians aren't creation*ists*
- that is, do not assert that God created the earth as it now is at
the beginning, or that all species are exactly now as they were
created, pace the Fall.
Believing in a creator god is not creationism, in the modern sense.
For reasonable people that isn't an unreasonable position, but reasonable
people do not post in alt.atheism so it must be clarified.
I do not post in a.a - I post in t.o. That my posting in t.o results in
postings in a.a is an unintended double effect of my posting in t.o ;-)
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John Wilkins
john_SPAM@wilkind.id.au www.wilkins.id.au
It is not enough to succeed. Friends must be seen to have failed.
Truman Capote
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| User: "Kadaitcha Man" |
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07 Mar 2004 06:07:38 PM |
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John Wilkins wrote:
In article <lyeOWUS4u0Zc8B1D4D1187D14C18SYHtLkzcBX1X@kadaitcha.cx>,
"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam@kadaitcha.cx> wrote:
John Wilkins wrote:
Kadaitcha Man <nospam@kadaitcha.cx> wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
Kadaitcha Man <nospam@kadaitcha.cx> wrote in alt.atheism
Mike Dworetsky wrote:
Being Christian (or anything else) does not imply support for
creationism. Generally the opposite.
*blink*
Are you a creationist?
I'm a Christian. Whilst I don't deny that evolution has it's place
for explaining speciation in vertebrates and a very narrow class of
arthropods, that we evolved out of some primordial soup is as
equally valid a proposition as is that we were created. What the
moron up there just wrote, in effect, was that Christians generally
don't believe in an act of creation. Sheesh. I'd like to see some
supporting references for that statement. It's absurd.
No he didn't.
I used the words in "effect". And the defintion of creationist
includes those who believe in an act of creation, not just
fundamentalist loonies who think the earth is 6000 years old.
If you want to get technical, "creationism" means the doctrine that
each soul is specially created at conception. The notion that God is
the Creator of all that is has never been known as creation*ism*, but
rather as theism.
See your own reply below.
He said that generally Christians aren't creation*ists*
- that is, do not assert that God created the earth as it now is at
the beginning, or that all species are exactly now as they were
created, pace the Fall.
Believing in a creator god is not creationism, in the modern sense.
For reasonable people that isn't an unreasonable position, but
reasonable people do not post in alt.atheism so it must be clarified.
I do not post in a.a
Yah, well I do, and I can tell you, alt.atheism atheists are illogical
nitwits so you can see how I justify my jump.
- I post in t.o. That my posting in t.o results
in postings in a.a is an unintended double effect of my posting in
t.o ;-)
That's quite ok. Your explanation of your intended meaning above is
more than acceptable. Thank you. alt.atheism atheists are incabable
of making such a distinction. They were created without brains,
apparently ;->
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| User: "Seppo Pietikainen" |
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07 Mar 2004 07:37:11 AM |
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Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
Kadaitcha Man <nospam@kadaitcha.cx> wrote in alt.atheism
Mike Dworetsky wrote:
Being Christian (or anything else) does not imply support for
creationism. Generally the opposite.
*blink*
Are you a creationist?
I'm a Christian. Whilst I don't deny that evolution has it's place for
explaining speciation in vertebrates and a very narrow class of arthropods,
that we evolved out of some primordial soup is as equally valid a
proposition as is that we were created. What the moron up there just wrote,
in effect, was that Christians generally don't believe in an act of
creation. Sheesh. I'd like to see some supporting references for that
statement. It's absurd.
I doubt that you are a christian. You are a religious fundamentalist foamie.
Most Christians do not accept creationism.
Seppo P.
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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07 Mar 2004 08:44:36 AM |
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Seppo Pietikainen <s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote in alt.atheism
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
Kadaitcha Man <nospam@kadaitcha.cx> wrote in alt.atheism
Mike Dworetsky wrote:
Being Christian (or anything else) does not imply support for
creationism. Generally the opposite.
*blink*
Are you a creationist?
I'm a Christian. Whilst I don't deny that evolution has it's place for
explaining speciation in vertebrates and a very narrow class of arthropods,
that we evolved out of some primordial soup is as equally valid a
proposition as is that we were created. What the moron up there just
wrote, in effect, was that Christians generally don't believe in an act of
creation. Sheesh. I'd like to see some supporting references for that
statement. It's absurd.
I doubt that you are a christian. You are a religious fundamentalist foamie.
Most Christians do not accept creationism.
He's probably just another "make it up as you go along" or "salad bar"
type Christian. He seems to believe in partial evolution, but there
seems to be some brick wall, or perhaps it's just a simple
misunderstanding based on ignorance that keeps him from accepting
the fact that humans evolved from earlier mammals instead of having
life breathed into them by some invisible god?
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Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Seppo Pietikainen" |
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07 Mar 2004 11:24:44 AM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
Seppo Pietikainen <s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote in alt.atheism
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
Kadaitcha Man <nospam@kadaitcha.cx> wrote in alt.atheism
Mike Dworetsky wrote:
Being Christian (or anything else) does not imply support for
creationism. Generally the opposite.
*blink*
Are you a creationist?
I'm a Christian. Whilst I don't deny that evolution has it's place for
explaining speciation in vertebrates and a very narrow class of arthropods,
that we evolved out of some primordial soup is as equally valid a
proposition as is that we were created. What the moron up there just
wrote, in effect, was that Christians generally don't believe in an act of
creation. Sheesh. I'd like to see some supporting references for that
statement. It's absurd.
I doubt that you are a christian. You are a religious fundamentalist foamie.
Most Christians do not accept creationism.
He's probably just another "make it up as you go along" or "salad bar"
type Christian. He seems to believe in partial evolution, but there
seems to be some brick wall, or perhaps it's just a simple
misunderstanding based on ignorance that keeps him from accepting
the fact that humans evolved from earlier mammals instead of having
life breathed into them by some invisible god?
Yeah. I almost missed the part where he "almost" accepts
speciation in vertebrates and a very narrow class of arthropods.
(Funny distinction, that :-))
Apparently he doesn't consider us humans to be vertebrates. Well, ok, that *may*
well be the case when creationists are considered...
Seppo P.
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| User: "AC" |
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07 Mar 2004 10:28:07 AM |
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 12:19:48 +0000 (UTC),
Kadaitcha Man <nospam@kadaitcha.cx> wrote:
Elroy Willis wrote:
Kadaitcha Man <nospam@kadaitcha.cx> wrote in alt.atheism
Mike Dworetsky wrote:
Being Christian (or anything else) does not imply support for
creationism. Generally the opposite.
*blink*
Are you a creationist?
I'm a Christian. Whilst I don't deny that evolution has it's place for
explaining speciation in vertebrates and a very narrow class of arthropods,
that we evolved out of some primordial soup is as equally valid a
proposition as is that we were created. What the moron up there just wrote,
in effect, was that Christians generally don't believe in an act of
creation. Sheesh. I'd like to see some supporting references for that
statement. It's absurd.
How about the fact that the Pope, who represents hundreds of millions of
Christians, does not reject evolution.
It is sad to see someone so obviously and pathetically ignorant pidgeon-hole
other Christians into the same small-minded group.
--
Aaron Clausen
tao_of_cow/\alberni.net (replace /\ with @)
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| User: "Dana Tweedy" |
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06 Mar 2004 09:15:28 PM |
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"Richard" <richard@nospam.edu> wrote in message
news:nOe2c.16175$Pc.7811@okepread02...
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How many of them did their work after Darwin published? How many
of those said anything about Darwin? You should understand that
equivocation is a form of lying and Jesus hates liars.
As is typical of lists of this sort,the work of most of the people
on his list predates Darwin, in some cases by centuries. Moreover,
being a Christian doesn't automatically make you a creationist, Stephen
J. Gould being the ultimate modern example.
Not that I dispute your statment that scientists can be both Christian and
accept evolutionary theory, but I should point out, for sake of accuracy,
Gould was not a Christian. IIRC, he was Jewish, and later an
Agnostic/Atheist. He did believe that religion and science were not
incompatiable, however.
DJT
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| User: "Richard Uhrich" |
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06 Mar 2004 10:21:14 PM |
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Dana Tweedy wrote:
"Richard" <richard@nospam.edu> wrote in message
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How many of them did their work after Darwin published? How many
of those said anything about Darwin? You should understand that
equivocation is a form of lying and Jesus hates liars.
As is typical of lists of this sort,the work of most of the people
on his list predates Darwin, in some cases by centuries. Moreover,
being a Christian doesn't automatically make you a creationist, Stephen
J. Gould being the ultimate modern example.
Not that I dispute your statment that scientists can be both Christian and
accept evolutionary theory, but I should point out, for sake of accuracy,
Gould was not a Christian. IIRC, he was Jewish, and later an
Agnostic/Atheist. He did believe that religion and science were not
incompatiable, however.
DJT
Yes, Jewish agnostic, "Nonoverlapping Magisteria."
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Richard Uhrich
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It reminds me of a Monty python routine where a guy goes into a pet
store to get his fish a license. He was told they don't make fish
licenses. He replies that he has a cat license, so why can't he get a
fish license? but was told they don't make cat licenses either. So he
shows the pet store his cat license. "Thats not a cat license," the
owner responds. "Thats a dog license. You just scratched out the word
'dog' and wrote in 'cat.''" That's all the creationists are doing.
They just scratch out "religion" and in it's place put "science." --
Murray Gell-Mann on Creation Science
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| User: "catshark" |
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06 Mar 2004 10:57:35 PM |
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 03:15:28 +0000 (UTC), "Dana Tweedy" <tweedyd@cvn.net>
wrote:
"Richard" <richard@nospam.edu> wrote in message
news:nOe2c.16175$Pc.7811@okepread02...
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How many of them did their work after Darwin published? How many
of those said anything about Darwin? You should understand that
equivocation is a form of lying and Jesus hates liars.
As is typical of lists of this sort,the work of most of the people
on his list predates Darwin, in some cases by centuries. Moreover,
being a Christian doesn't automatically make you a creationist, Stephen
J. Gould being the ultimate modern example.
Not that I dispute your statment that scientists can be both Christian and
accept evolutionary theory, but I should point out, for sake of accuracy,
Gould was not a Christian. IIRC, he was Jewish, and later an
Agnostic/Atheist. He did believe that religion and science were not
incompatiable, however.
Maybe he is confusing Gould with Ken Miller?
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In the name of the bee
And of the butterfly
And of the breeze, amen
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| User: "Steve Makohin" |
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07 Mar 2004 03:35:51 PM |
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In article <nospam-Igc2c.697$%s5.63630@news.uswest.net>,
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote:
A good portion of our modern science was founded by creationists.
[snip]
Although I will not go into the depths of analyzing the 15 "samples"
you provided, I am not sure what point you are attempting to make. I
am pretty certain that you are NOT try to make any of the following
points:
o Some Christians have made significant contributions to
science in _spite_ of their religious beliefs. A good
example is that of Galileo, a member of the Roman
Catholic Church, who through the use of a telescope
observed and reported events that were consistent with
a heliocentric model, and for which he was excommunicated
from The Church for his heresy. It was Church doctrine at
the time that the Earth was the center of the universe.
o Credible scientists may have religious beliefs that are
inconsistent with science, but the _smart_ credible
scientists are able to clearly separate science (facts)
from religion (Faith), and they do not assert that their
religious beliefs are in any way related to, nor validated
by their scientific knowledge.
o There is no evidence to suggest that the contributions
to science made by Christians are any more numerous nor
any more significant than any other religious groups, or
that of atheists or agnostics (when comparing contributions
versus population of potential contributors).
o Informed Christians are embarrassed by, and possibly for,
uninformed Christians who believe in the Bible's account
of things over those of science, and they would prefer that
their uninformed brethren would refrain from engaging in
"religion versus science" assertions. Saint Augustine, in
his works named "De Genesi ad Litteram Libri Duodecim,"
wrote the following pertaining to this matter:
"Often a non-Christian knows something about the earth,
the heavens, and the other parts of the world, about
the motions and orbits of the stars and even their
sizes and distances... and this knowledge he holds with
certainty from reason and experience. It is thus
offensive and disgraceful for an unbeliever to hear a
Christian talk nonsense about such things, claiming
that what he is saying is based in Scripture. We should
do all that we can to avoid such an embarrassing
situation, which people see as ignorance in the
Christian and laugh to scorn."
It's a good thing that science cares only about discovering the truth,
and not the religious convictions of those who discover it.
-Steve Makohin | Reply to
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| User: "mel turner" |
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06 Mar 2004 04:09:01 AM |
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In article <nospam-Igc2c.697$%s5.63630@news.uswest.net>,
[The Church of The Painful Truth] wrote...
A good portion of our modern science was founded by creationists.
A good proportion of posts by you are evidently plagiarized.
[rest snipped]
From:
http://www.letusreason.org/Apolo6.htm
cheers
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| User: "Richard Forrest" |
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| Title: Re: A good portion of our modern science was founded by creationists. |
06 Mar 2004 09:49:45 AM |
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(mel turner) wrote in message news:<c2c8at$h7b$4@gargoyle.oit.duke.edu>...
In article <nospam-Igc2c.697$%s5.63630@news.uswest.net>,
[The Church of The Painful Truth] wrote...
A good portion of our modern science was founded by creationists.
A good proportion of posts by you are evidently plagiarized.
[rest snipped]
From:
http://www.letusreason.org/Apolo6.htm
cheers
That's not true!
All his posts are plagiarzed.
RF
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| User: "mel turner" |
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| Title: Re: A good portion of our modern science was founded by creationists. |
07 Mar 2004 07:17:25 AM |
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In article <892cb437.0403060755.472c87f6@posting.google.com>,
richard@plesiosaur.com [Richard Forrest] wrote...
mturner@snipthis.acpub.duke.edu (mel turner) wrote in message
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In article <nospam-Igc2c.697$%s5.63630@news.uswest.net>,
Nospam@Nomarketing.co
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[The Church of The Painful Truth] wrote...
A good portion of our modern science was founded by creationists.
A good proportion of posts by you are evidently plagiarized.
[rest snipped]
From:
http://www.letusreason.org/Apolo6.htm
cheers
That's not true!
All his posts are plagiarzed.
No, his incoherent and/or incomprehensible short retorts are
evidently mostly original. "Mostly", because he often seems to be
inappropriately repeating various criticisms that had been made
in replies to him.
cheers
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| User: "Mark VandeWettering" |
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06 Mar 2004 01:44:09 AM |
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In article <nospam-Igc2c.697$%s5.63630@news.uswest.net>, The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
Stolen from http://www.letusreason.org/Apolo6.htm
A good portion of our modern science was founded by creationists.
Francis and Roger Bacon.
Died 1626 and 1292, respectively.
Galileo=Heliocentricity
Heliocentricity is usually credited to Copernicus, not Galileo.
Died 1642.
Sir Issac Newton= Calculas and gravity, particle theory of light
Died 1727.
Joseph Lister= Antiseptic surgery
Died 1912.
Matthew Maury- Discovery of oceanography from Psalms 8:8
Died 1873.
Louis Pastuer = sterilization, bacteriology he is one of the greatest
biologists.
Died 1895.
Johann Kepler =celestial mechanics astronomy
Died 1630.
Robert Boyle= founder of chemistry ( a Christian ).
Died 1691.
William Harvey= circulation of the blood.
Died 1657.
Modern discoveries by Christians= Michael faraday -made the generator and
electro magnetic induction
Died 1867.
Samuel Morris made the telegraph and his first words Numbers 23:23 "what God
has wrought."
Morse. Died 1872.
James Simpson was the founder of ginecology founded chloroform on Adams deep
sleep (he said his greatest discovery was that he had a savior.)
Died 1870. (and gynecology, incidently).
Charles Barage= Computer, speedometer, opthamaloscope ( a Christian)
Presumably you meant "Babbage". Died 1871.
Carolus Lineaus= Gave us the family of species the Genesis kind (believer in
the Bible) Taxonomy.
Died 1778.
Nicolas Steno= Father of the science of stratography
Died 1686.
Darwin's Origin of Species was published in 1859. Only Babbage, Lister,
Morse, Faraday and Maury were alive to see it, and only then barely.
You've also given no evidence that any of these people were creationists.
While many of them are no doubt Christians, I think you might have more
difficulty illustrating that they are creationists.
But let's assume for a second you are right. Why have no creationists
made significant contributions to science in the years since Darwin published
Origin of Species?
Mark
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06 Mar 2004 08:28:17 AM |
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Ok, they were creationists. They also died before evolution was a theory.
Your point?
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
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A good portion of our modern science was founded by creationists.
Francis and Roger Bacon.
Galileo=Heliocentricity
Sir Issac Newton= Calculas and gravity, particle theory of light
Joseph Lister= Antiseptic surgery
Matthew Maury- Discovery of oceanography from Psalms 8:8
Louis Pastuer = sterilization, bacteriology he is one of the greatest
biologists.
Johann Kepler =celestial mechanics astronomy
Robert Boyle= founder of chemistry ( a Christian ).
William Harvey= circulation of the blood.
Modern discoveries by Christians= Michael faraday -made the generator and
electro magnetic induction
Samuel Morris made the telegraph and his first words Numbers 23:23 "what
God
has wrought."
James Simpson was the founder of ginecology founded chloroform on Adams
deep
sleep (he said his greatest discovery was that he had a savior.)
Charles Barage= Computer, speedometer, opthamaloscope ( a Christian)
Carolus Lineaus= Gave us the family of species the Genesis kind (believer
in
the Bible) Taxonomy.
Nicolas Steno= Father of the science of stratography
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: A good portion of our modern science was founded by creationists. |
06 Mar 2004 08:55:36 PM |
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 14:28:17 +0000 in episode
<104jobb7u2tqn17@corp.supernews.com> we saw our hero "M C"
<mcunix@swbell.net>:
Ok, they were creationists. They also died before evolution was a theory.
Your point?
Church of the Pain in the ***** sole point is that he's an annoying, idiotic
troll.
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Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: A good portion of our modern science was founded by creationists. |
06 Mar 2004 08:40:33 AM |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 14:28:17 +0000 (UTC), "M C" <mcunix@swbell.net>
wrote:
Ok, they were creationists. They also died before evolution was a theory.
Your point?
Actually they weren't. Creationism is a modern phenomenon.
These people were anything but creationists - they used their minds,
followed where the evidence led and didn't let religion override what
they found.
Unfortunately the Liars for God imagine that anybody they respect who
was Christian held the same views they do.
"The Church of The Painful Truth" <Nospam@Nomarketing.com> wrote in message
news:nospam-Igc2c.697$%s5.63630@news.uswest.net...
A good portion of our modern science was founded by creationists.
Francis and Roger Bacon.
Galileo=Heliocentricity
Sir Issac Newton= Calculas and gravity, particle theory of light
Joseph Lister= Antiseptic surgery
Matthew Maury- Discovery of oceanography from Psalms 8:8
Louis Pastuer = sterilization, bacteriology he is one of the greatest
biologists.
Johann Kepler =celestial mechanics astronomy
Robert Boyle= founder of chemistry ( a Christian ).
William Harvey= circulation of the blood.
Modern discoveries by Christians= Michael faraday -made the generator and
electro magnetic induction
Samuel Morris made the telegraph and his first words Numbers 23:23 "what
God
has wrought."
James Simpson was the founder of ginecology founded chloroform on Adams
deep
sleep (he said his greatest discovery was that he had a savior.)
Charles Barage= Computer, speedometer, opthamaloscope ( a Christian)
Carolus Lineaus= Gave us the family of species the Genesis kind (believer
in
the Bible) Taxonomy.
Nicolas Steno= Father of the science of stratography
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: A good portion of our modern science was founded by creationists. |
06 Mar 2004 09:23:39 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 04:10:48 +0000, The Church of The Painful Truth wrote:
A good portion of our modern science was founded by creationists.
Francis and Roger Bacon.
Galileo=Heliocentricity
Sir Issac Newton= Calculas and gravity, particle theory of light
Joseph Lister= Antiseptic surgery
Matthew Maury- Discovery of oceanography from Psalms 8:8
Louis Pastuer = sterilization, bacteriology he is one of the greatest
biologists.
Johann Kepler =celestial mechanics astronomy
Robert Boyle= founder of chemistry ( a Christian ).
William Harvey= circulation of the blood.
Modern discoveries by Christians= Michael faraday -made the generator and
electro magnetic induction
Samuel Morris made the telegraph and his first words Numbers 23:23 "what God
has wrought."
James Simpson was the founder of ginecology founded chloroform on Adams deep
sleep (he said his greatest discovery was that he had a savior.)
Charles Barage= Computer, speedometer, opthamaloscope ( a Christian)
Carolus Lineaus= Gave us the family of species the Genesis kind (believer in
the Bible) Taxonomy.
Nicolas Steno= Father of the science of stratography
How many of the above scientists were still alive when the theory of
evolution was proposed? None?
Another example of how disingenuous creationists are. Scientists want
accurate knowledge, regardless of who might be offended. Creationists
want to defend their dogma, regardless of how much they must distort the
truth.
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MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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