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"BubbaGump BubbaGump@localhost" |
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30 Mar 2007 06:15:44 PM |
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A heavenly paradox |
If Christians believe in eternal, blissful life after death then why
are Christians so opposed to death? Why don't they look forward to
it? Why are they sad at funerals? Why do they try to prevent
abortions? Why do they wage wars in order to prevent other people's
deaths? Why do they wage wars in order to prevent their own deaths?
Is it because they don't really believe in their own religion, because
they're all a bunch of liars who are too scared to admit it?
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: A heavenly paradox |
30 Mar 2007 07:02:19 PM |
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"BubbaGump" <BubbaGump@localhost> wrote in message
news:d56r03p48b17smjl6fkkmj5kdqprgtvpgv@4ax.com...
If Christians believe in eternal, blissful life after death then why
are Christians so opposed to death? Why don't they look forward to
it? Why are they sad at funerals? Why do they try to prevent
abortions? Why do they wage wars in order to prevent other people's
deaths? Why do they wage wars in order to prevent their own deaths?
Is it because they don't really believe in their own religion, because
they're all a bunch of liars who are too scared to admit it?
Christians are opposed to death because of a reason they don't entirely come
to grips with yet. Because deep inside they know that heaven can only be on
Earth.
They also try to extend their life as long as possible to score points.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: A heavenly paradox |
30 Mar 2007 06:53:47 PM |
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"BubbaGump" <BubbaGump@localhost> wrote in message
news:d56r03p48b17smjl6fkkmj5kdqprgtvpgv@4ax.com...
If Christians believe in eternal, blissful life after death then why
are Christians so opposed to death? Why don't they look forward to
it? Why are they sad at funerals? Why do they try to prevent
abortions? Why do they wage wars in order to prevent other people's
deaths? Why do they wage wars in order to prevent their own deaths?
Is it because they don't really believe in their own religion, because
they're all a bunch of liars who are too scared to admit it?
It's worse than that. Supposedly Christians believe that the more you suffer
in this life, the greater your reward in the afterlife. If they really
believed that, they'd find a way around that pesky rule against suicide and
find ways to off themselves that are technically "accidents".
Sometimes I wish they'd take their own religion more seriously.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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| Title: Re: A heavenly paradox |
31 Mar 2007 11:21:47 AM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:wsednaqCCbGRPpDbnZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d@io.com:
"BubbaGump" <BubbaGump@localhost> wrote in message
news:d56r03p48b17smjl6fkkmj5kdqprgtvpgv@4ax.com...
If Christians believe in eternal, blissful life after death then
why are Christians so opposed to death? Why don't they look
forward to it? Why are they sad at funerals? Why do they try
to prevent abortions? Why do they wage wars in order to prevent
other people's deaths? Why do they wage wars in order to
prevent their own deaths?
Is it because they don't really believe in their own religion,
because they're all a bunch of liars who are too scared to admit
it?
It's worse than that. Supposedly Christians believe that the more
you suffer in this life, the greater your reward in the
afterlife. If they really believed that, they'd find a way around
that pesky rule against suicide and find ways to off themselves
that are technically "accidents".
Back in the bad old days when some people really took that stuff
seriously there was this phenomenom of "suicide by murder". The
suicidal person would kill somebody, usually a child who could not
defend him/herself, and then report the murder to the authorities.
Then they would get confession, forgiveness, last rites and be
executed, thinking that they end up in heaven. According to their
religion, if they had killed themselves they would have ended up in
hell. The authorities had some discussion about if they should execute
the murderers, or if it would be considered helping them to commit
suicide, but they decided to go ahead with the executions.
Sometimes I wish they'd take their own religion more seriously.
Sometimes I wonder what the world would be like if they did. :-(
Lisbeth.
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The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: A heavenly paradox |
04 Apr 2007 01:45:56 PM |
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"Lisbeth Andersson" <lisand@bredband.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9904C3A797C19lisandbredbandnet@66.150.105.47...
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:wsednaqCCbGRPpDbnZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d@io.com:
"BubbaGump" <BubbaGump@localhost> wrote in message
news:d56r03p48b17smjl6fkkmj5kdqprgtvpgv@4ax.com...
If Christians believe in eternal, blissful life after death then
why are Christians so opposed to death? Why don't they look
forward to it? Why are they sad at funerals? Why do they try
to prevent abortions? Why do they wage wars in order to prevent
other people's deaths? Why do they wage wars in order to
prevent their own deaths?
Is it because they don't really believe in their own religion,
because they're all a bunch of liars who are too scared to admit
it?
It's worse than that. Supposedly Christians believe that the more
you suffer in this life, the greater your reward in the
afterlife. If they really believed that, they'd find a way around
that pesky rule against suicide and find ways to off themselves
that are technically "accidents".
Back in the bad old days when some people really took that stuff
seriously there was this phenomenom of "suicide by murder". The
suicidal person would kill somebody, usually a child who could not
defend him/herself, and then report the murder to the authorities.
Then they would get confession, forgiveness, last rites and be
executed, thinking that they end up in heaven. According to their
religion, if they had killed themselves they would have ended up in
hell. The authorities had some discussion about if they should execute
the murderers, or if it would be considered helping them to commit
suicide, but they decided to go ahead with the executions.
Sometimes I wish they'd take their own religion more seriously.
Sometimes I wonder what the world would be like if they did. :-(
That was purely rhetorical, I assure you! ;-)
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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| Title: Re: A heavenly paradox |
04 Apr 2007 04:15:18 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:nJadncFgG5P7b47bnZ2dnUVZ_rKvnZ2d@io.com:
Sometimes I wish they'd take their own religion more seriously.
Sometimes I wonder what the world would be like if they did. :-(
That was purely rhetorical, I assure you! ;-)
And?
Don't ask rhetorical questions if you don't want an answer. ;-)
(Or at least a comment.)
Lisbeth.
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The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: A heavenly paradox |
30 Mar 2007 07:03:40 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
news:wsednaqCCbGRPpDbnZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d@io.com...
"BubbaGump" <BubbaGump@localhost> wrote in message
news:d56r03p48b17smjl6fkkmj5kdqprgtvpgv@4ax.com...
If Christians believe in eternal, blissful life after death then why
are Christians so opposed to death? Why don't they look forward to
it? Why are they sad at funerals? Why do they try to prevent
abortions? Why do they wage wars in order to prevent other people's
deaths? Why do they wage wars in order to prevent their own deaths?
Is it because they don't really believe in their own religion, because
they're all a bunch of liars who are too scared to admit it?
It's worse than that. Supposedly Christians believe that the more you
suffer
in this life, the greater your reward in the afterlife. If they really
believed that, they'd find a way around that pesky rule against suicide
and
find ways to off themselves that are technically "accidents".
Sometimes I wish they'd take their own religion more seriously.
Christians don't want to suffer, but they do want to do acts which often
lead to their suffering. That is just the nature of choosing the right
thing.
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| User: "BubbaGump BubbaGump@localhost" |
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| Title: Re: A heavenly paradox |
31 Mar 2007 08:34:13 AM |
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:53:47 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"BubbaGump" <BubbaGump@localhost> wrote in message
news:d56r03p48b17smjl6fkkmj5kdqprgtvpgv@4ax.com...
If Christians believe in eternal, blissful life after death then why
are Christians so opposed to death? Why don't they look forward to
it? Why are they sad at funerals? Why do they try to prevent
abortions? Why do they wage wars in order to prevent other people's
deaths? Why do they wage wars in order to prevent their own deaths?
Is it because they don't really believe in their own religion, because
they're all a bunch of liars who are too scared to admit it?
It's worse than that. Supposedly Christians believe that the more you suffer
in this life, the greater your reward in the afterlife. If they really
believed that, they'd find a way around that pesky rule against suicide and
find ways to off themselves that are technically "accidents".
Sometimes I wish they'd take their own religion more seriously.
The suffering thing makes some sense to me.
For instance, I do some sort of exercise every day, and I really only
enjoy a portion of it when my adrenalin is flowing. I'd rather just
sit around all day, but I tried this and it seems to leave me feeling
kind of bad all the time. So, I exchange a little pain for a lot of
pleasure. I could generalize this to just about everything in life,
even waking up in the morning.
Suffering has another benefit, which is to prepare oneself mentally,
to build up a tolerance for further suffering that might be
encountered out of one's control. It's like that line in Fight Club,
"Once you've been in a fight, everything else gets the volume turned
down."
Everything in Christianity makes a little practical sense to me if
it's toned down a bit and drained of fanaticism.
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