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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "J Young"
Date: 02 Dec 2005 09:58:00 PM
Object: A Jewish view of Christmas
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp
Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'
(AgapePress) - A group of Jewish Americans says its members are fed up with
the war being waged against Christmas. Yesterday, at a National Press Club
gathering in Washington, the group's president, Don Feder, voiced his
organization's feelings when he declared, "Jews Against Anti-Christian
Defamation is here today to say, 'Enough already. If you're offended by a
municipal Christmas tree or Santa Claus in a holiday parade or a manger in a
park, get over it.'"
Feder went on to say that banning the word "Christmas" and other references
to Jesus makes no sense in the United States. "This is an overwhelmingly
Christian nation, and it's a matter of simple courtesy to acknowledge a
holiday celebrated by 96 percent of the American people," he asserted.
Feder confessed to being among the four percent of Americans who do not
celebrate Christmas. But he also admitted that while growing up, he sang
Christmas carols and made Christmas ornaments. "And, guess what," he said.
"I wasn't emotionally scarred for life."
While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews Against
Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across the U.S. to rise in
defense of Christians' right to say "Merry Christmas" and to celebrate the
birth of Jesus according to their faith and traditions without the threat of
being prohibited or censured because of political correctness.
"Why would a group of Jews who don't celebrate Christmas care about the
disappearance of Christmas?" Feder asked, anticipating the question from his
listeners. "Because Christmas is disappearing," he proceeded to explain.
"It's disappearing from our culture at an alarming rate, disappearing from
stores, disappearing from schools, and disappearing from the public square."
.

User: "Paul Duca"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 03 Dec 2005 09:51:46 PM
I hope you remember this the next time one of your Catholic buddies
talks about how "the Jews killed Our Lord"
Paul
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User: "Goodness Godless"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 03 Dec 2005 12:18:55 AM
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http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

from the 'The American Pro Family Website'
Any site with a label like that deserves a well earned kick in the balls!
You are such a twit Young!

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User: "Polish Prince \Szynka"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 03 Dec 2005 12:48:42 AM
Obviously, you have a far different interpretation of "Family".
Young is a "Twit" because he has a different opinion than the one
you have ? How Inclusive ! How Tolerant ! How Liberal !
Makes the case.
The Liberal definition of Free Speech: The protected and open statements of
one's thoughts and beliefs until it conflicts with mine.
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http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

from the 'The American Pro Family Website'

Any site with a label like that deserves a well earned kick in the balls!

You are such a twit Young!




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User: ""

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 04 Dec 2005 12:22:06 AM
On 3-Dec-2005, "Polish Prince \(Szynka\)" <wawrzekski@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

Obviously, you have a far different interpretation of "Family".
Young is a "Twit" because he has a different opinion than the one
you have ?

No, he's a lying scumbag, rather than just a twit, because he has
no actual opinion, but rather espouses whatever view he thinks will
generate the most hate.
Susan
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User: "erikc"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 05 Dec 2005 10:30:02 AM
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 06:22:06 GMT,
wrote:


On 3-Dec-2005, "Polish Prince \(Szynka\)" <wawrzekski@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

Obviously, you have a far different interpretation of "Family".
Young is a "Twit" because he has a different opinion than the one
you have ?


No, he's a lying scumbag, rather than just a twit, because he has
no actual opinion, but rather espouses whatever view he thinks will
generate the most hate.

Susan

With those qualification, why isn't he holding some high level office in the
Bush administration? Or is he too much, even for them?
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
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User: "Parsifal"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 03 Dec 2005 02:24:49 AM
Polish Prince (Szynka) schrieb:

Obviously, you have a far different interpretation of "Family".
Young is a "Twit" because he has a different opinion than the one
you have ? How Inclusive ! How Tolerant ! How Liberal !
Makes the case.

You're obviously new here or you'll know that J Young is one of the
most repulsive persons to post on this newsgroup: he's racist,
homophobic, intolerant... He calls himself "christian" but believe me,
if you are too, you won't want him on "your side"...


The Liberal definition of Free Speech: The protected and open statements of
one's thoughts and beliefs until it conflicts with mine.

No: until it conflits with the very foundation of decency: tolerance,
respect, open-mindedness. Are we suppose to accept the nazis' point of
view because we are liberals? Actually, we are merely pointing out the
contradictions of someone who pretends to be a christian but who
doesn't apply the fundamental principles of christianity.
Believe me, in a few days, you'll understand more about this nazi turd
called J Young.



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http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

from the 'The American Pro Family Website'

Any site with a label like that deserves a well earned kick in the balls!

You are such a twit Young!




.
User: "Polish Prince \Szynka"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 03 Dec 2005 04:06:48 AM
I come here from time to time.
I have to watch his posts for integrity.
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Polish Prince (Szynka) schrieb:

Obviously, you have a far different interpretation of "Family".
Young is a "Twit" because he has a different opinion than the one
you have ? How Inclusive ! How Tolerant ! How Liberal !
Makes the case.


You're obviously new here or you'll know that J Young is one of the
most repulsive persons to post on this newsgroup: he's racist,
homophobic, intolerant... He calls himself "christian" but believe me,
if you are too, you won't want him on "your side"...


The Liberal definition of Free Speech: The protected and open statements
of
one's thoughts and beliefs until it conflicts with mine.


No: until it conflits with the very foundation of decency: tolerance,
respect, open-mindedness. Are we suppose to accept the nazis' point of
view because we are liberals? Actually, we are merely pointing out the
contradictions of someone who pretends to be a christian but who
doesn't apply the fundamental principles of christianity.

Believe me, in a few days, you'll understand more about this nazi turd
called J Young.






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http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

from the 'The American Pro Family Website'

Any site with a label like that deserves a well earned kick in the
balls!

You are such a twit Young!





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User: "LC"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 03 Dec 2005 11:51:49 AM
<top-posting repaired>
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You're obviously new here or you'll know that J Young is one of the
most repulsive persons to post on this newsgroup: he's racist,
homophobic, intolerant... He calls himself "christian" but believe me,
if you are too, you won't want him on "your side"...

I come here from time to time.
I have to watch his posts for integrity.

"J Young" and "integrity" are mutually exclusive.
To wit:
"J Young" on sex:
"I ain't a Jesus freak. I love porn stars!God bless them."
From:
(Jon Young)
Message-ID: <25e1e54f.0404240901.7eb55105@posting.google.com>
"anal stimulation with a ***** helps enhance the spanking experience."
From:
(Jon Young)
Newsgroups: soc.sexuality.spanking
Subject: best done with help
Date: 5 Oct 2003 18:00:43 -0700
Message-ID: <567f3dc3.0310051700.31b4eb95@posting.google.com>
"J Young" on tolerance:
"I'm no Grand Wizard. Although I did meet him and speak to him on several
occasions back during my first days with his ... organization. See,
azzhole... they all wear business suites now-days. Makes it so much easier
to watch the other's backs."~ J "IBen Getiner" Young.
Date: 03 Aug 2004 09:04:12 GMT
Message-ID: <20040803050412.23098.00002844@mb-m07.aol.com>
"I take my hat off to the Nazis. What we need now is .... a solution. It can
be seen as a final one, if you like..."~ J "IBen Getiner" Young.
Message-ID: <1129611930.510748.91890@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
"Every damned day when I get out of bed, I offer up praise and song to
the Good Lord above for sending AIDS.
And let's not forget the marvelous effect HIV is having on our
charming and selfless black community.... They're coming down with it
in droves."~ J "IBen Getiner" Young.
"Those filthy bastards <Jews> killed Christ.Now they want to
destroy the entire middle east." ~ J "loose cannon" Young.
Message-ID: <5a858a1e.0403160718.2241d13a@posting.google.com>
"J Young" on Catholicism:
"The catholic church is, for the most part, totally corrupt. The
perfect prototype of what a religion looks like when man is the
one who creates it. Not to say that people can't find God even
there... People find Him in many evil places. But for the most part,
the catholic church is the great mother ***** of religion on planet
earth. On that, we can agree. But the catholic faith is not the only
branch of the tree. Just one of the dead ones."~ J "IBen Getiner" Young.
Message-ID: <6ba61564.0403060100.23b22815@posting.google.com>
"No Catholic has ever wronged me in any way. I just know hypocrisy and
corruption smells like when I get close to it.
You represent the great mother ***** of religion on planet earth. You
control the thoughts, minds, hearts and purse-strings of millions who
do not have the strength to do these things for themselves."~ J "IBen
Getiner" Young.
Newsgroups:
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Subject: Re: Beginning of the End for catholic Church
Date: 23 Dec 2002 04:00:30 -0800
Message-ID:

"i think you know so much about catholics and what their dicks look
like because both your mother and sperm donor spend so much time
sucking on one."
From:
(Jon Young)
Newsgroups:
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Subject: Re: => Catholic Dickheads ...!
Date: 13 Oct 2003 06:24:36 -0700
Message-ID: <567f3dc3.0310130524.6be654a5@posting.google.com>
"J Young" on pedophilia:
"Why is it okay to kill a baby ,but not okay to f*ck him or her?"
From:
(Jon Young)
Message-ID: <25e1e54f.0404252034.356729e@posting.google.com>
"Instead of funding wars overseas; why not fund us people who want to
spread a little love.NAMBLA is all about togetherness and comforting
our young people with guidance from an older generation Please help
us. I know the folks in these NG's can identify with our plight. We
are just very misunderstood; we get bad press, but we stand for love"
J "loose cannon" Young.
Newsgroups:
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Subject: Federal funds for NAMBLA
Date: 10 Mar 2004 09:44:11 -0800
Message-ID: <5a858a1e.0403100944.676efbd7@posting.google.com>
LC~ Providing just a small sample of J Young's "integrity".
"Everyday a different computer, everyday a different Id (those may have
to be repeated after I run out of names and numbers with my free
accounts with hotmail and yahoo and volcanomail and msn ect...) which
will render a killfile absolutely useless."~ J "simon sez" Young.
Message-ID: <1124475530.860458.5110@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
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User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"

Title: Comedy 03 Dec 2005 01:19:41 AM
Aaaah, more hilarious babble from fundy brat... ;)
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove,
And gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer,
And fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
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User: "Frank Arthur"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 03 Dec 2005 06:46:02 AM
For those people who believe that God is weak and cannot defend will come to
His aid at Christmastime with the usual "They're taking my Christmas away"
plaint.
No one is taking Christmas way from anyone in the USA.
You can, and do, buy millions of Christmas trees, decorations, lights,
ornaments and gifts. Homes are decorated with lights and figures and fully
decorated artificial Christmas trees are sold nationwide.You are absolutely
free to call these trees "Christmas trees", "Holiday trees", "Friendship
trees" or any free choice of what you want to call them. You are free to
practice your religion at your home or place of worship, unimpeded ,
anywhere in the 50 states.
What you cannot do is to force or coerce or proselytize
others who do not believe in your particular choice of religion on places
like Public Schools, Village Squares,
City Hall or other places.
Why not?
Because this is the the United States of America where individual rights
rule over "the common good" or "the tyranny of the majority".
Many department and chain stores, nationwide, have opted to replace
"Christmas" with the generic "Holiday"
term recognizing the growing number of other people who do not share that
particular Christian belief. In order to be more inclusive and out of
consideration for the feelings of others the "Holiday" term is being used.
There is nothing stopping you from calling it Christmas if you prefer. There
are no laws forcing you to use the term "Holiday" other than the laws of
decency and consideration for others.
Is that too foreign for a Christian to grasp?
If the message of the birth of Christ at Christmas time is to "love one
another" there is no time or place for misplaced anger and hostility toward
others if you really are a Christian.
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http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

(AgapePress) - A group of Jewish Americans says its members are fed up
with
the war being waged against Christmas. Yesterday, at a National Press Club
gathering in Washington, the group's president, Don Feder, voiced his
organization's feelings when he declared, "Jews Against Anti-Christian
Defamation is here today to say, 'Enough already. If you're offended by a
municipal Christmas tree or Santa Claus in a holiday parade or a manger in
a
park, get over it.'"

Feder went on to say that banning the word "Christmas" and other
references
to Jesus makes no sense in the United States. "This is an overwhelmingly
Christian nation, and it's a matter of simple courtesy to acknowledge a
holiday celebrated by 96 percent of the American people," he asserted.

Feder confessed to being among the four percent of Americans who do not
celebrate Christmas. But he also admitted that while growing up, he sang
Christmas carols and made Christmas ornaments. "And, guess what," he said.
"I wasn't emotionally scarred for life."

While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews Against
Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across the U.S. to rise
in
defense of Christians' right to say "Merry Christmas" and to celebrate the
birth of Jesus according to their faith and traditions without the threat
of
being prohibited or censured because of political correctness.

"Why would a group of Jews who don't celebrate Christmas care about the
disappearance of Christmas?" Feder asked, anticipating the question from
his
listeners. "Because Christmas is disappearing," he proceeded to explain.
"It's disappearing from our culture at an alarming rate, disappearing from
stores, disappearing from schools, and disappearing from the public
square."


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User: "Polish Prince \Szynka"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 03 Dec 2005 12:16:14 AM
I have Jewish friends that recognize this emerging
Anti-Christian Prejudice. They understand that we
both worship the same God. They understand that
the Manger is the target today, will the Menorah be next ?
The Jewish people that I know, are Religious Jews and
not (Hollywood Style) Secular Jews. There is a vast difference.
The Left has a very clear agenda.
Eliminate the belief in an Immortal Supreme Being.
Especially one that requires the adherence
to certain laws, and punishment for non-adherence.
Such a belief system conflicts with the
ideology that they wish to impose upon
the world. They simply want to substitute
God with the "State".
Will we allow this to happen ?
That question remains unanswered.
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http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

(AgapePress) - A group of Jewish Americans says its members are fed up
with
the war being waged against Christmas. Yesterday, at a National Press Club
gathering in Washington, the group's president, Don Feder, voiced his
organization's feelings when he declared, "Jews Against Anti-Christian
Defamation is here today to say, 'Enough already. If you're offended by a
municipal Christmas tree or Santa Claus in a holiday parade or a manger in
a
park, get over it.'"

Feder went on to say that banning the word "Christmas" and other
references
to Jesus makes no sense in the United States. "This is an overwhelmingly
Christian nation, and it's a matter of simple courtesy to acknowledge a
holiday celebrated by 96 percent of the American people," he asserted.

Feder confessed to being among the four percent of Americans who do not
celebrate Christmas. But he also admitted that while growing up, he sang
Christmas carols and made Christmas ornaments. "And, guess what," he said.
"I wasn't emotionally scarred for life."

While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews Against
Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across the U.S. to rise
in
defense of Christians' right to say "Merry Christmas" and to celebrate the
birth of Jesus according to their faith and traditions without the threat
of
being prohibited or censured because of political correctness.

"Why would a group of Jews who don't celebrate Christmas care about the
disappearance of Christmas?" Feder asked, anticipating the question from
his
listeners. "Because Christmas is disappearing," he proceeded to explain.
"It's disappearing from our culture at an alarming rate, disappearing from
stores, disappearing from schools, and disappearing from the public
square."


.
User: ""

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 04 Dec 2005 12:20:52 AM
On 3-Dec-2005, "Polish Prince \(Szynka\)" <wawrzekski@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

I have Jewish friends that recognize this emerging
Anti-Christian Prejudice. They understand that we
both worship the same God. They understand that
the Manger is the target today, will the Menorah be next ?

This is how we know you are lying.
Jews do NOT have an agenda to put a "Menorah"
(another way we know you are lying) in public places.
Susan
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User: "S. Maizlich"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 03 Dec 2005 11:08:55 AM
Polish Prince (Szynka) wrote:

I have Jewish friends that recognize this emerging
Anti-Christian Prejudice. They understand that we
both worship the same God. They understand that
the Manger is the target today, will the Menorah be next ?
The Jewish people that I know, are Religious Jews and
not (Hollywood Style) Secular Jews. There is a vast difference.

The Left has a very clear agenda.
Eliminate the belief in an Immortal Supreme Being.
Especially one that requires the adherence
to certain laws, and punishment for non-adherence.

Hmm...that sounds as if the left wants to prevent
Muslim Sharia from being implemented in the U.S. But
isn't that what *all* Americans would like to prevent
from being implemented in the U.S.?

Such a belief system conflicts with the
ideology that they wish to impose upon
the world. They simply want to substitute
God with the "State".

Will we allow this to happen ?
That question remains unanswered.




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http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

(AgapePress) - A group of Jewish Americans says its members are fed up
with
the war being waged against Christmas. Yesterday, at a National Press Club
gathering in Washington, the group's president, Don Feder, voiced his
organization's feelings when he declared, "Jews Against Anti-Christian
Defamation is here today to say, 'Enough already. If you're offended by a
municipal Christmas tree or Santa Claus in a holiday parade or a manger in
a
park, get over it.'"

Feder went on to say that banning the word "Christmas" and other
references
to Jesus makes no sense in the United States. "This is an overwhelmingly
Christian nation, and it's a matter of simple courtesy to acknowledge a
holiday celebrated by 96 percent of the American people," he asserted.

Feder confessed to being among the four percent of Americans who do not
celebrate Christmas. But he also admitted that while growing up, he sang
Christmas carols and made Christmas ornaments. "And, guess what," he said.
"I wasn't emotionally scarred for life."

While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews Against
Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across the U.S. to rise
in
defense of Christians' right to say "Merry Christmas" and to celebrate the
birth of Jesus according to their faith and traditions without the threat
of
being prohibited or censured because of political correctness.

"Why would a group of Jews who don't celebrate Christmas care about the
disappearance of Christmas?" Feder asked, anticipating the question from
his
listeners. "Because Christmas is disappearing," he proceeded to explain.
"It's disappearing from our culture at an alarming rate, disappearing from
stores, disappearing from schools, and disappearing from the public
square."





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User: "Chris Johnson"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 12 Dec 2005 05:40:50 PM
Polish Prince (Szynka) wrote:

I have Jewish friends that recognize this emerging
Anti-Christian Prejudice. They understand that we
both worship the same God. They understand that
the Manger is the target today, will the Menorah be next ?
The Jewish people that I know, are Religious Jews and
not (Hollywood Style) Secular Jews. There is a vast difference.

The Left has a very clear agenda.
Eliminate the belief in an Immortal Supreme Being.
Especially one that requires the adherence
to certain laws, and punishment for non-adherence.
Such a belief system conflicts with the
ideology that they wish to impose upon
the world. They simply want to substitute
God with the "State".

Will we allow this to happen ?
That question remains unanswered.

The whole persecuted thing was cute for a while, but it's getting old.
You're not being persecuted. You're not being oppressed. The United
States is just starting to realize that not everybody is a Christian,
and Christians don't deserve any more prominent a place than other
religions.
.

User: "Frank Arthur"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 03 Dec 2005 06:44:42 AM
Under the Soviet system citizens were subjected to Soviet Law which said
"the common good" is what governs.
In a democracy "the individual" is what counts and laws
are designed to protect the minority, that is the weakest from the tyranny
of the strong and powerful.
You, a Pole, who is aware of the subjugation of the individual under Hitler
and Stalin should be the least person in the world to attack the civil
liberties of the minority.
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I have Jewish friends that recognize this emerging
Anti-Christian Prejudice. They understand that we
both worship the same God. They understand that
the Manger is the target today, will the Menorah be next ?
The Jewish people that I know, are Religious Jews and
not (Hollywood Style) Secular Jews. There is a vast difference.

The Left has a very clear agenda.
Eliminate the belief in an Immortal Supreme Being.
Especially one that requires the adherence
to certain laws, and punishment for non-adherence.
Such a belief system conflicts with the
ideology that they wish to impose upon
the world. They simply want to substitute
God with the "State".

Will we allow this to happen ?
That question remains unanswered.




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http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

(AgapePress) - A group of Jewish Americans says its members are fed up
with
the war being waged against Christmas. Yesterday, at a National Press
Club
gathering in Washington, the group's president, Don Feder, voiced his
organization's feelings when he declared, "Jews Against Anti-Christian
Defamation is here today to say, 'Enough already. If you're offended by a
municipal Christmas tree or Santa Claus in a holiday parade or a manger
in a
park, get over it.'"

Feder went on to say that banning the word "Christmas" and other
references
to Jesus makes no sense in the United States. "This is an overwhelmingly
Christian nation, and it's a matter of simple courtesy to acknowledge a
holiday celebrated by 96 percent of the American people," he asserted.

Feder confessed to being among the four percent of Americans who do not
celebrate Christmas. But he also admitted that while growing up, he sang
Christmas carols and made Christmas ornaments. "And, guess what," he
said.
"I wasn't emotionally scarred for life."

While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews Against
Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across the U.S. to rise
in
defense of Christians' right to say "Merry Christmas" and to celebrate
the
birth of Jesus according to their faith and traditions without the threat
of
being prohibited or censured because of political correctness.

"Why would a group of Jews who don't celebrate Christmas care about the
disappearance of Christmas?" Feder asked, anticipating the question from
his
listeners. "Because Christmas is disappearing," he proceeded to explain.
"It's disappearing from our culture at an alarming rate, disappearing
from
stores, disappearing from schools, and disappearing from the public
square."




.


User: "Frank Arthur"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 03 Dec 2005 07:52:23 AM
If you were really a Christian you wouldn't be using the time of the birth
of Christ to deliver your message of anger, intolerance and hatred for
others.
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:DeudnSWOSLb5hQzenZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...


http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

(AgapePress) - A group of Jewish Americans says its members are fed up
with
the war being waged against Christmas. Yesterday, at a National Press Club
gathering in Washington, the group's president, Don Feder, voiced his
organization's feelings when he declared, "Jews Against Anti-Christian
Defamation is here today to say, 'Enough already. If you're offended by a
municipal Christmas tree or Santa Claus in a holiday parade or a manger in
a
park, get over it.'"

Feder went on to say that banning the word "Christmas" and other
references
to Jesus makes no sense in the United States. "This is an overwhelmingly
Christian nation, and it's a matter of simple courtesy to acknowledge a
holiday celebrated by 96 percent of the American people," he asserted.

Feder confessed to being among the four percent of Americans who do not
celebrate Christmas. But he also admitted that while growing up, he sang
Christmas carols and made Christmas ornaments. "And, guess what," he said.
"I wasn't emotionally scarred for life."

While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews Against
Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across the U.S. to rise
in
defense of Christians' right to say "Merry Christmas" and to celebrate the
birth of Jesus according to their faith and traditions without the threat
of
being prohibited or censured because of political correctness.

"Why would a group of Jews who don't celebrate Christmas care about the
disappearance of Christmas?" Feder asked, anticipating the question from
his
listeners. "Because Christmas is disappearing," he proceeded to explain.
"It's disappearing from our culture at an alarming rate, disappearing from
stores, disappearing from schools, and disappearing from the public
square."


.
User: ""

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 04 Dec 2005 12:30:24 AM
On 3-Dec-2005, "Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote:

If you were really a Christian you wouldn't be using the time of the birth
of Christ to deliver your message of anger, intolerance and hatred for
others.

I see you're new to J.Young, but you have him pegged already.
So I do want to assure you that most of us *know* he's NOT a real Xian!!
Susan


"J Young"

.


User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 03 Dec 2005 10:28:25 PM
In <DeudnSWOSLb5hQzenZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

Which might have relevance if such a "war" actually existed.
You know who's behind the push for neutral holiday greetings? Capitalists.
Why do you hate capitalism so much? Are you a socialist?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
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Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
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http://www.nola.com
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User: "Malibu Skipper"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 03 Dec 2005 09:51:53 AM
J Young wrote:

While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews Against
Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across the U.S. to rise in
defense of Christians' right to say "Merry Christmas" and to celebrate the
birth of Jesus according to their faith and traditions without the threat of
being prohibited or censured because of political correctness.

As an agnostic, I hereby declare myself a staunch defender of
Christians' right to say Merry Christmas and celebrate the birth of
Jesus according to their faith without the threat of being prohibited or
censured because of political correctness.
If anybody could make a convincing case that such a threat actually
exists, that it...
.
User: "Frank Arthur"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 03 Dec 2005 04:51:33 PM
No one is taking Christmas way from anyone in the USA.
You can, and do, buy millions of Christmas trees, decorations, lights,
ornaments and gifts. Homes are decorated with lights and figures and fully
decorated artificial Christmas trees are sold nationwide.You are absolutely
free to call these trees "Christmas trees", "Holiday trees", "Friendship
trees" or any free choice of what you want to call them. You are free to
practice your religion at your home or place of worship, unimpeded ,
anywhere in the 50 states.
What you cannot do is to force or coerce or proselytize
others who do not believe in your particular choice of religion on places
like Public Schools, Village Squares,
City Hall or other places.
Why not?
Because this is the the United States of America where individual rights
rule over "the common good" or "the tyranny of the majority".
Many department and chain stores, nationwide, have opted to replace
"Christmas" with the generic "Holiday"
term recognizing the growing number of other people who do not share that
particular Christian belief. In order to be more inclusive and out of
consideration for the feelings of others the "Holiday" term is being used.
There is nothing stopping you from calling it Christmas if you prefer. There
are no laws forcing you to use the term "Holiday" other than the laws of
decency and consideration for others.
Is that too foreign for a Christian to grasp?
If the message of the birth of Christ at Christmas time is to "love one
another" there is no time or place for misplaced anger and hostility toward
others if you really are a Christian.
"Malibu Skipper" <mad@my.mama> wrote in message
news:tajkf.2735$ev6.314387@twister.southeast.rr.com...

J Young wrote:

While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews Against
Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across the U.S. to rise
in
defense of Christians' right to say "Merry Christmas" and to celebrate
the
birth of Jesus according to their faith and traditions without the threat
of
being prohibited or censured because of political correctness.


As an agnostic, I hereby declare myself a staunch defender of Christians'
right to say Merry Christmas and celebrate the birth of Jesus according to
their faith without the threat of being prohibited or censured because of
political correctness.

If anybody could make a convincing case that such a threat actually
exists, that it...

.


User: "L.Roberts"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 02 Dec 2005 10:22:28 PM
J Young wrote:

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

(AgapePress) - A group of Jewish Americans says its members are fed up with
the war being waged against Christmas. Yesterday, at a National Press Club
gathering in Washington, the group's president, Don Feder, voiced his
organization's feelings when he declared, "Jews Against Anti-Christian
Defamation is here today to say, 'Enough already. If you're offended by a
municipal Christmas tree or Santa Claus in a holiday parade or a manger in a
park, get over it.'"

Feder went on to say that banning the word "Christmas" and other references
to Jesus makes no sense in the United States. "This is an overwhelmingly
Christian nation, and it's a matter of simple courtesy to acknowledge a
holiday celebrated by 96 percent of the American people," he asserted.

Feder confessed to being among the four percent of Americans who do not
celebrate Christmas. But he also admitted that while growing up, he sang
Christmas carols and made Christmas ornaments. "And, guess what," he said.
"I wasn't emotionally scarred for life."

While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews Against
Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across the U.S. to rise in
defense of Christians' right to say "Merry Christmas" and to celebrate the
birth of Jesus according to their faith and traditions without the threat of
being prohibited or censured because of political correctness.

"Why would a group of Jews who don't celebrate Christmas care about the
disappearance of Christmas?" Feder asked, anticipating the question from his
listeners. "Because Christmas is disappearing," he proceeded to explain.
"It's disappearing from our culture at an alarming rate, disappearing from
stores, disappearing from schools, and disappearing from the public square."

That doesn't explain why they would care, but, why they would care is
easy enough to figure out. I'll give you a hint:
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
.
User: "Humanist-Chaplin"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 02 Dec 2005 10:52:28 PM
I would not expect to get a gift if I was going to another persons
birthday party.
.

User: "L Alpert"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 03 Dec 2005 11:02:30 AM
L.Roberts wrote:

J Young wrote:

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

(AgapePress) - A group of Jewish Americans says its members are fed
up with the war being waged against Christmas. Yesterday, at a
National Press Club gathering in Washington, the group's president,
Don Feder, voiced his organization's feelings when he declared,
"Jews Against Anti-Christian Defamation is here today to say,
'Enough already. If you're offended by a municipal Christmas tree or
Santa Claus in a holiday parade or a manger in a park, get over it.'"

Feder went on to say that banning the word "Christmas" and other
references to Jesus makes no sense in the United States. "This is an
overwhelmingly Christian nation, and it's a matter of simple
courtesy to acknowledge a holiday celebrated by 96 percent of the
American people," he asserted.

Feder confessed to being among the four percent of Americans who do
not celebrate Christmas. But he also admitted that while growing up,
he sang Christmas carols and made Christmas ornaments. "And, guess
what," he said. "I wasn't emotionally scarred for life."

While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews Against
Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across the U.S. to
rise in defense of Christians' right to say "Merry Christmas" and to
celebrate the birth of Jesus according to their faith and traditions
without the threat of being prohibited or censured because of
political correctness.

"Why would a group of Jews who don't celebrate Christmas care about
the disappearance of Christmas?" Feder asked, anticipating the
question from his listeners. "Because Christmas is disappearing," he
proceeded to explain. "It's disappearing from our culture at an
alarming rate, disappearing from stores, disappearing from schools,
and disappearing from the public square."


That doesn't explain why they would care, but, why they would care is
easy enough to figure out. I'll give you a hint:
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

We already have all of that. You should know that throwing out a tidbit
once in awhile helps the moral of the underlings.
.
User: "L.Roberts"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 04 Dec 2005 06:43:06 PM
L Alpert wrote:

L.Roberts wrote:

J Young wrote:

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

(AgapePress) - A group of Jewish Americans says its members are fed
up with the war being waged against Christmas. Yesterday, at a
National Press Club gathering in Washington, the group's president,
Don Feder, voiced his organization's feelings when he declared,
"Jews Against Anti-Christian Defamation is here today to say,
'Enough already. If you're offended by a municipal Christmas tree or
Santa Claus in a holiday parade or a manger in a park, get over it.'"

Feder went on to say that banning the word "Christmas" and other
references to Jesus makes no sense in the United States. "This is an
overwhelmingly Christian nation, and it's a matter of simple
courtesy to acknowledge a holiday celebrated by 96 percent of the
American people," he asserted.

Feder confessed to being among the four percent of Americans who do
not celebrate Christmas. But he also admitted that while growing up,
he sang Christmas carols and made Christmas ornaments. "And, guess
what," he said. "I wasn't emotionally scarred for life."

While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews Against
Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across the U.S. to
rise in defense of Christians' right to say "Merry Christmas" and to
celebrate the birth of Jesus according to their faith and traditions
without the threat of being prohibited or censured because of
political correctness.

"Why would a group of Jews who don't celebrate Christmas care about
the disappearance of Christmas?" Feder asked, anticipating the
question from his listeners. "Because Christmas is disappearing," he
proceeded to explain. "It's disappearing from our culture at an
alarming rate, disappearing from stores, disappearing from schools,
and disappearing from the public square."


That doesn't explain why they would care, but, why they would care is
easy enough to figure out. I'll give you a hint:
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


We already have all of that. You should know that throwing out a tidbit
once in awhile helps the moral of the underlings.

Greed is insatiable, you know that.
.
User: "L Alpert"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 04 Dec 2005 07:52:29 PM
L.Roberts wrote:

L Alpert wrote:

L.Roberts wrote:

J Young wrote:

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

(AgapePress) - A group of Jewish Americans says its members are fed
up with the war being waged against Christmas. Yesterday, at a
National Press Club gathering in Washington, the group's president,
Don Feder, voiced his organization's feelings when he declared,
"Jews Against Anti-Christian Defamation is here today to say,
'Enough already. If you're offended by a municipal Christmas tree
or Santa Claus in a holiday parade or a manger in a park, get over
it.'"

Feder went on to say that banning the word "Christmas" and other
references to Jesus makes no sense in the United States. "This is
an overwhelmingly Christian nation, and it's a matter of simple
courtesy to acknowledge a holiday celebrated by 96 percent of the
American people," he asserted.

Feder confessed to being among the four percent of Americans who do
not celebrate Christmas. But he also admitted that while growing
up, he sang Christmas carols and made Christmas ornaments. "And,
guess what," he said. "I wasn't emotionally scarred for life."

While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews Against
Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across the U.S. to
rise in defense of Christians' right to say "Merry Christmas" and
to celebrate the birth of Jesus according to their faith and
traditions without the threat of being prohibited or censured
because of political correctness.

"Why would a group of Jews who don't celebrate Christmas care about
the disappearance of Christmas?" Feder asked, anticipating the
question from his listeners. "Because Christmas is disappearing,"
he proceeded to explain. "It's disappearing from our culture at an
alarming rate, disappearing from stores, disappearing from schools,
and disappearing from the public square."


That doesn't explain why they would care, but, why they would care
is easy enough to figure out. I'll give you a hint:
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


We already have all of that. You should know that throwing out a
tidbit once in awhile helps the moral of the underlings.


Greed is insatiable, you know that.

Is it still greed if one already has everything?
.
User: "L.Roberts"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 04 Dec 2005 08:50:04 PM
L Alpert wrote:

L.Roberts wrote:

L Alpert wrote:

L.Roberts wrote:

J Young wrote:

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

(AgapePress) - A group of Jewish Americans says its members are fed
up with the war being waged against Christmas. Yesterday, at a
National Press Club gathering in Washington, the group's president,
Don Feder, voiced his organization's feelings when he declared,
"Jews Against Anti-Christian Defamation is here today to say,
'Enough already. If you're offended by a municipal Christmas tree
or Santa Claus in a holiday parade or a manger in a park, get over
it.'"

Feder went on to say that banning the word "Christmas" and other
references to Jesus makes no sense in the United States. "This is
an overwhelmingly Christian nation, and it's a matter of simple
courtesy to acknowledge a holiday celebrated by 96 percent of the
American people," he asserted.

Feder confessed to being among the four percent of Americans who do
not celebrate Christmas. But he also admitted that while growing
up, he sang Christmas carols and made Christmas ornaments. "And,
guess what," he said. "I wasn't emotionally scarred for life."

While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews Against
Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across the U.S. to
rise in defense of Christians' right to say "Merry Christmas" and
to celebrate the birth of Jesus according to their faith and
traditions without the threat of being prohibited or censured
because of political correctness.

"Why would a group of Jews who don't celebrate Christmas care about
the disappearance of Christmas?" Feder asked, anticipating the
question from his listeners. "Because Christmas is disappearing,"
he proceeded to explain. "It's disappearing from our culture at an
alarming rate, disappearing from stores, disappearing from schools,
and disappearing from the public square."


That doesn't explain why they would care, but, why they would care
is easy enough to figure out. I'll give you a hint:
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


We already have all of that. You should know that throwing out a
tidbit once in awhile helps the moral of the underlings.


Greed is insatiable, you know that.


Is it still greed if one already has everything?

And you still want more? Of course.
.
User: "L Alpert"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 05 Dec 2005 09:55:30 PM
L.Roberts wrote:

L Alpert wrote:

L.Roberts wrote:

L Alpert wrote:

L.Roberts wrote:

J Young wrote:

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

(AgapePress) - A group of Jewish Americans says its members are
fed up with the war being waged against Christmas. Yesterday, at
a National Press Club gathering in Washington, the group's
president, Don Feder, voiced his organization's feelings when he
declared, "Jews Against Anti-Christian Defamation is here today
to say, 'Enough already. If you're offended by a municipal
Christmas tree or Santa Claus in a holiday parade or a manger in
a park, get over it.'"

Feder went on to say that banning the word "Christmas" and other
references to Jesus makes no sense in the United States. "This is
an overwhelmingly Christian nation, and it's a matter of simple
courtesy to acknowledge a holiday celebrated by 96 percent of the
American people," he asserted.

Feder confessed to being among the four percent of Americans who
do not celebrate Christmas. But he also admitted that while
growing up, he sang Christmas carols and made Christmas
ornaments. "And, guess what," he said. "I wasn't emotionally
scarred for life."

While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews
Against Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across
the U.S. to rise in defense of Christians' right to say "Merry
Christmas" and to celebrate the birth of Jesus according to
their faith and traditions without the threat of being
prohibited or censured because of political correctness.

"Why would a group of Jews who don't celebrate Christmas care
about the disappearance of Christmas?" Feder asked, anticipating
the question from his listeners. "Because Christmas is
disappearing," he proceeded to explain. "It's disappearing from
our culture at an alarming rate, disappearing from stores,
disappearing from schools, and disappearing from the public
square."


That doesn't explain why they would care, but, why they would care
is easy enough to figure out. I'll give you a hint:
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


We already have all of that. You should know that throwing out a
tidbit once in awhile helps the moral of the underlings.


Greed is insatiable, you know that.


Is it still greed if one already has everything?


And you still want more? Of course.

If one has everything, it would be silly to want more. Of course, if more
is made available, then one would take that as well.
.
User: "L.Roberts"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 12 Dec 2005 05:24:02 PM
L Alpert wrote:

L.Roberts wrote:

L Alpert wrote:

L.Roberts wrote:

L Alpert wrote:

L.Roberts wrote:

J Young wrote:

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

(AgapePress) - A group of Jewish Americans says its members are
fed up with the war being waged against Christmas. Yesterday, at
a National Press Club gathering in Washington, the group's
president, Don Feder, voiced his organization's feelings when he
declared, "Jews Against Anti-Christian Defamation is here today
to say, 'Enough already. If you're offended by a municipal
Christmas tree or Santa Claus in a holiday parade or a manger in
a park, get over it.'"

Feder went on to say that banning the word "Christmas" and other
references to Jesus makes no sense in the United States. "This is
an overwhelmingly Christian nation, and it's a matter of simple
courtesy to acknowledge a holiday celebrated by 96 percent of the
American people," he asserted.

Feder confessed to being among the four percent of Americans who
do not celebrate Christmas. But he also admitted that while
growing up, he sang Christmas carols and made Christmas
ornaments. "And, guess what," he said. "I wasn't emotionally
scarred for life."

While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews
Against Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across
the U.S. to rise in defense of Christians' right to say "Merry
Christmas" and to celebrate the birth of Jesus according to
their faith and traditions without the threat of being
prohibited or censured because of political correctness.

"Why would a group of Jews who don't celebrate Christmas care
about the disappearance of Christmas?" Feder asked, anticipating
the question from his listeners. "Because Christmas is
disappearing," he proceeded to explain. "It's disappearing from
our culture at an alarming rate, disappearing from stores,
disappearing from schools, and disappearing from the public
square."


That doesn't explain why they would care, but, why they would care
is easy enough to figure out. I'll give you a hint:
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


We already have all of that. You should know that throwing out a
tidbit once in awhile helps the moral of the underlings.


Greed is insatiable, you know that.


Is it still greed if one already has everything?


And you still want more? Of course.


If one has everything, it would be silly to want more. Of course, if more
is made available, then one would take that as well.

*yyyyyyyyaaaaaaHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!*
.
User: "Frank Arthur"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 12 Dec 2005 05:46:04 PM
"Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women, and children,
since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined,
imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has
been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other
half hypocrites. To support roguery and error
all over the earth." - Thomas Jefferson (Notes on Virginia, 1782; from
George Seldes, ed., The Great Quotations, Secaucus, New Jersey: Citadel
Press, 1983, p. 363.)
"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity
been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride
and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity; in both,
superstition, bigotry and persecution." - James Madison (Memorial and
Remonstrance against Religious Assessments, 1785.)
"Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines
and Oaths, and whole carloads of other trumpery that we find religion
encumbered with in these days?" - John Adams
"The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief
or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the
full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretence,
infringed.'' - James Madison (Original wording of the First Amendment;
Annals of Congress 434 (June 8, 1789).)
"As the Government of the United States of America is not in any sense
founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of
enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Musselmen; and as the
said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any
Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from
religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony
existing between the two countries." - (Treaty of Tripoli, 1797 - signed by
President John Adams.)
"L.Roberts" <ozzcat2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1134429842.455396.155590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


L Alpert wrote:

L.Roberts wrote:

L Alpert wrote:

L.Roberts wrote:

L Alpert wrote:

L.Roberts wrote:

J Young wrote:

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

(AgapePress) - A group of Jewish Americans says its members are
fed up with the war being waged against Christmas. Yesterday, at
a National Press Club gathering in Washington, the group's
president, Don Feder, voiced his organization's feelings when he
declared, "Jews Against Anti-Christian Defamation is here today
to say, 'Enough already. If you're offended by a municipal
Christmas tree or Santa Claus in a holiday parade or a manger in
a park, get over it.'"

Feder went on to say that banning the word "Christmas" and other
references to Jesus makes no sense in the United States. "This is
an overwhelmingly Christian nation, and it's a matter of simple
courtesy to acknowledge a holiday celebrated by 96 percent of the
American people," he asserted.

Feder confessed to being among the four percent of Americans who
do not celebrate Christmas. But he also admitted that while
growing up, he sang Christmas carols and made Christmas
ornaments. "And, guess what," he said. "I wasn't emotionally
scarred for life."

While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews
Against Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across
the U.S. to rise in defense of Christians' right to say "Merry
Christmas" and to celebrate the birth of Jesus according to
their faith and traditions without the threat of being
prohibited or censured because of political correctness.

"Why would a group of Jews who don't celebrate Christmas care
about the disappearance of Christmas?" Feder asked, anticipating
the question from his listeners. "Because Christmas is
disappearing," he proceeded to explain. "It's disappearing from
our culture at an alarming rate, disappearing from stores,
disappearing from schools, and disappearing from the public
square."


That doesn't explain why they would care, but, why they would care
is easy enough to figure out. I'll give you a hint:
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


We already have all of that. You should know that throwing out a
tidbit once in awhile helps the moral of the underlings.


Greed is insatiable, you know that.


Is it still greed if one already has everything?


And you still want more? Of course.


If one has everything, it would be silly to want more. Of course, if
more
is made available, then one would take that as well.


*yyyyyyyyaaaaaaHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!*

.

User: "L Alpert"

Title: Re: A Jewish view of Christmas 12 Dec 2005 07:14:37 PM
L.Roberts wrote:

L Alpert wrote:

L.Roberts wrote:

L Alpert wrote:

L.Roberts wrote:

L Alpert wrote:

L.Roberts wrote:

J Young wrote:

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/afa/22005a.asp

Jewish Group Condemns Anti-Christian 'War on Christmas'

(AgapePress) - A group of Jewish Americans says its members are
fed up with the war being waged against Christmas. Yesterday,
at a National Press Club gathering in Washington, the group's
president, Don Feder, voiced his organization's feelings when
he declared, "Jews Against Anti-Christian Defamation is here
today to say, 'Enough already. If you're offended by a
municipal Christmas tree or Santa Claus in a holiday parade or
a manger in a park, get over it.'"

Feder went on to say that banning the word "Christmas" and
other references to Jesus makes no sense in the United States.
"This is an overwhelmingly Christian nation, and it's a matter
of simple courtesy to acknowledge a holiday celebrated by 96
percent of the American people," he asserted.

Feder confessed to being among the four percent of Americans
who do not celebrate Christmas. But he also admitted that while
growing up, he sang Christmas carols and made Christmas
ornaments. "And, guess what," he said. "I wasn't emotionally
scarred for life."

While speaking at the National Press Club, the head of Jews
Against Anti-Christian Defamation (JAACD) called on Jews across
the U.S. to rise in defense of Christians' right to say "Merry
Christmas" and to celebrate the birth of Jesus according to
their faith and traditions without the threat of being
prohibited or censured because of political correctness.

"Why would a group of Jews who don't celebrate Christmas care
about the disappearance of Christmas?" Feder asked,
anticipating the question from his listeners. "Because
Christmas is disappearing," he proceeded to explain. "It's
disappearing from our culture at an alarming rate,
disappearing from stores, disappearing from schools, and
disappearing from the public square."


That doesn't explain why they would care, but, why they would
care is easy enough to figure out. I'll give you a hint:
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


We already have all of that. You should know that throwing out a
tidbit once in awhile helps the moral of the underlings.


Greed is insatiable, you know that.


Is it still greed if one already has everything?


And you still want more? Of course.


If one has everything, it would be silly to want more. Of course,
if more is made available, then one would take that as well.


*yyyyyyyyaaaaaaHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!*

I'm glad you agree.
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