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"towelie" |
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28 Jul 2005 03:09:22 AM |
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A judge gets it right |
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/7/27/151137/048
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I would like to convey the message that our system works. We did not need to
use a secret military tribunal, or detain the defendant indefinitely as an
enemy combatant, or deny him the right to counsel, or invoke any proceedings
beyond those guaranteed by or contrary to the United States Constitution...
Unfortunately, some believe that this threat renders our Constitution
obsolete. This is a Constitution for which men and women have died and
continue to die and which has made us a model among nations. If that view is
allowed to prevail, the terrorists will have won.
It is my sworn duty, and as long as there is breath in my body I'll perform
it, to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. We will be
in recess.
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Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "G-Ride" |
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| Title: Re: A judge gets it right |
28 Jul 2005 01:29:59 PM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:rf2dnXcm4ukiD3XfRVn-qQ@centurytel.net...
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/7/27/151137/048
Quote:
I would like to convey the message that our system works. We did not need
to
use a secret military tribunal, or detain the defendant indefinitely as an
enemy combatant, or deny him the right to counsel, or invoke any
proceedings
beyond those guaranteed by or contrary to the United States
Constitution...
Unfortunately, some believe that this threat renders our Constitution
obsolete. This is a Constitution for which men and women have died and
continue to die and which has made us a model among nations. If that view
is
allowed to prevail, the terrorists will have won.
It is my sworn duty, and as long as there is breath in my body I'll
perform
it, to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. We will
be
in recess.
Three cheers for that judge.
--
Aloha, G-Ride
"Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga."
- Dalai Llama
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: A judge gets it right |
28 Jul 2005 11:11:21 AM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:rf2dnXcm4ukiD3XfRVn-qQ@centurytel.net...
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/7/27/151137/048
Quote:
I would like to convey the message that our system works. We did not need
to use a secret military tribunal, or detain the defendant indefinitely as
an enemy combatant, or deny him the right to counsel, or invoke any
proceedings beyond those guaranteed by or contrary to the United States
Constitution...
Unfortunately, some believe that this threat renders our Constitution
obsolete. This is a Constitution for which men and women have died and
continue to die and which has made us a model among nations. If that view
is allowed to prevail, the terrorists will have won.
It is my sworn duty, and as long as there is breath in my body I'll
perform it, to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.
We will be in recess.
Beautiful quote! Made my day.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: A judge gets it right |
06 Aug 2005 09:42:35 PM |
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 03:09:22 -0500, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
wrote:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/7/27/151137/048
Quote:
I would like to convey the message that our system works. We did not need to
use a secret military tribunal, or detain the defendant indefinitely as an
enemy combatant, or deny him the right to counsel, or invoke any proceedings
beyond those guaranteed by or contrary to the United States Constitution...
Unfortunately, some believe that this threat renders our Constitution
obsolete. This is a Constitution for which men and women have died and
continue to die and which has made us a model among nations. If that view is
allowed to prevail, the terrorists will have won.
It is my sworn duty, and as long as there is breath in my body I'll perform
it, to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. We will be
in recess.
The sunlight of a public trial
by switzerblog
Wed Jul 27th, 2005 at 12:11:37 PDT
Update [2005-7-27 15:46:52 by Armando]: From the diaries by Armando.
Edited to bring the good stuff up top.
Ahmed Ressam, the Algerian who was arrested in 1999 with materials and
a plan to bomb LAX airport on New Year's 2000, was sentenced today to
22 years in prison. He was useful for a while in providing
information, but has refused to assist the US any further in recent
months.
It's important that he was caught by our border guards (yay us!), and
that he's locked away. But what's more important is the way his trial
was handled. He is no less a terrorist than Mohamed Atta - just less
successful. And he's much more of a terrorist than Jose Padilla, who
has not and likely will not see an attorney because he's an "enemy
combatant". 9/11 didn't change who or what these people are, it only
seemed to change who we are, and that makes me sad.
It seems to make the judge in the Ressam case sad, too. His
incredibly powerful words while sentencing Ressam are below, with no
further comment from me.
The message I would hope to convey in today's sentencing is
twofold:
First, that we have the resolve in this country to deal with the
subject of terrorism and people who engage in it should be prepared to
sacrifice a major portion of their life in confinement.
Secondly, though, I would like to convey the message that our
system works. We did not need to use a secret military tribunal, or
detain the defendant indefinitely as an enemy combatant, or deny him
the right to counsel, or invoke any proceedings beyond those
guaranteed by or contrary to the United States Constitution.
I would suggest that the message to the world from today's
sentencing is that our courts have not abandoned our commitment to the
ideals that set our nation apart. We can deal with the threats to our
national security without denying the accused fundamental
constitutional protections.
Despite the fact that Mr. Ressam is not an American citizen and
despite the fact that he entered this country intent upon killing
American citizens, he received an effective, vigorous defense, and the
opportunity to have his guilt or innocence determined by a jury of 12
ordinary citizens.
Most importantly, all of this occurred in the sunlight of a public
trial. There were no secret proceedings, no indefinite detention, no
denial of counsel. {emphasis switzer's}
The tragedy of September 11th shook our sense of security and made
us realize that we, too, are vulnerable to acts of terrorism.
Unfortunately, some believe that this threat renders our
Constitution obsolete. This is a Constitution for which men and women
have died and continue to die and which has made us a model among
nations. If that view is allowed to prevail, the terrorists will have
won.
It is my sworn duty, and as long as there is breath in my body
I'll perform it, to support and defend the Constitution of the United
States. We will be in recess.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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