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"Fred Stone" |
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21 Oct 2006 03:36:01 PM |
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A Letter From A Loving Son (warning, graphic) |
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/013680.php
A letter from the son of a woman who was stoned to death
This dates from August, and I have a general policy against posting
archival material -- after all, if I post everything worthy that's out
there, whatever its age, I could spend all day every day doing it and
still never catch up. But I have to make an exception for this, as it
just was sent to me today by Jihad Watch reader James, and it is, I
think, an extraordinary insight into the human cost of Sharia. The
Sharia that the jihadists are laboring to impose upon us is the Sharia
that cost this boy his mother, and scarred his life forever after.
All decent people, all people who still retain an ounce of humanity,
should resist it. This is a post from the Iranian the blog of Azadeh
Pourzand (thanks again to James): "A letter about Stoning to Death."
A few weeks ago my mother, Mehrangiz Kar, wrote an article about
stoning to death in Iran. She received many different feedbacks for her
article that was published in Farsi. Among those responses we found an
astonishing letter from an anonymous person whose mother was stoned to
death twenty six years ago. Since the strength of the words of this
letter paralyzed my body and mind for a few minutes, I decided to
quickly translate the text.
According to Article 83 of the Islamic Penal Code of Iran, stoning
to death has been declared a permissible punishment for a few different
types of adultery.
Hello.
I read your recent article about stoning to death.
Reading your article reminded me of the bleeding bruises in my
heart once again.
You wrote about murdering by stoning?
Have you ever held a bloody tool in your hands with which they
have murdered your mother?
Have you ever touched the bloody skin and hair of your mother
who has just been killed in a deep hole?
Have you ever followed the line of your mother’s blood in order
to find her corpse thrown at the back of a truck?
Have you ever seen the fresh grave of that dearest being with a
small piece of paper on which they have written her name wrapped around
a small branch of tree?
Has anyone ever said a word about the children of the people who
have been stoned to death?
I was fourteen and now I am forty.
To quote psychologists, I am one of the most fortunate people on
this planet. I am fortunate, because despite this contempt in my life I
have been able to continue my higher education and find myself a wife,
children and a credible job without letting a single black spot remain
in my life.
Do you even understand what it means to be the child of a person
who has been shamefully stoned to death?
If Islamic clerics tell you that you could not win over the
Islamic laws, they have, indeed told you the truth.
My mother used to tell me that she had become a sex-worker in
order to feed us and to support us. She used to command us in being real
men.
She used to tell us to stand on our own feet and to never lose
our hope in Ali (the first imam in shiasm).
Seriously who would want to sell her body, to sell her sex to
anonymous men except for those women who have no other way of
feeding their children?
If the husband knows how to make money, the wife and the mother
of the family does not have to go and seek customers.
The economic situation needs to improve and single mothers or
those mothers whose husbands do not have the ability or the willpower to
work, should be able to seek help from the government.
You must establish an organization for supporting these women.
It does not have to be a very rich organization in the beginning. No one
has the right to condemn you for seeking financial support from
different sources for these types of support organizations. Women like
my mother who was eventually stoned to death need your help. They need
the world’s help and support. Their forgotten families, too, need the
world’s help. Help them!
Executing people for having not immoral actions is not going to
have an effective result.
Tell me how many people have been executed and stoned to death
since the beginning of the Islamic Revolution in Iran…What is the result
of all of this violence other than the fact that the evil is now truly
dominating our society?
I never forget the last words of my mother’s Islamic judge:
“I issued a verdict for stoning this woman to death so that
other individuals learn a lesson from her doomed fate and to avoid sins
of such nature. To execute by shooting would not have made her suffer
enough!”
Alas. Twenty six years ago my mother was stoned to death before
my eyes. Has these women’s tragic fate helped our society improve?
Statistics show that the rates of prostitution and corruption
have increased exponentially.
God bless you!
--
Fred Stone
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| User: "655321" |
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21 Oct 2006 06:21:06 PM |
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In article <Xns9863B26A821E5fstone69@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
A letter from the son of a woman who was stoned to death
Well I'm convinced. Let the invasion begin!
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655321
"Heed the message served with every Republican banquet speech -- that the
private interest precedes the public interest, that money is good for rich
people, bad for poor people -- and who can say that the war in Iraq has proven
to be anything other than the transformation of a godforsaken desert into a
defense contractor's Garden of Eden?" -- Lewis Lapham
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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21 Oct 2006 06:30:36 PM |
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:21:06 GMT, 655321
<DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
In article <Xns9863B26A821E5fstone69@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
A letter from the son of a woman who was stoned to death
Well I'm convinced. Let the invasion begin!
Funny enough, Fred Stone, who is all indignation and venom, won't be
participating.
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Yang
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EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2786 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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21 Oct 2006 09:53:13 PM |
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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:21:06 GMT, 655321
<DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
In article <Xns9863B26A821E5fstone69@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
A letter from the son of a woman who was stoned to death
Well I'm convinced. Let the invasion begin!
Funny enough, Fred Stone, who is all indignation and venom, won't be
participating.
No, but he'd enjoy watching the stoning, especially if it was a woman or
child.
The man probably didn't bat an eye today when he heard about two 500
pound bombs being dropped on a house and the president talking about
"justice" being done.
Mike Painter the stupid bad cop doesn't know the difference between
crime and war. Not only did I not bat an eye, I rejoiced. I *gloated*.
He argues for days about "presumed innocence" but ignores it. But I
guess that answer at least one of the questions I asked him.
I wonder how many died when they dropped the first bomb and how many
more when they dropped the second one, just to make sure?
If they were in that house, they needed killing. That includes the women
and the children.
--
Fred Stone
http://shorterlink.co.uk/5622
"I certainly did enjoy the day. Our enemies have
chosen to hide behind women and children, and they are responsible
for the deaths of those innocents, not us."
http://shorterlink.co.uk/5749
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| User: "Sean C" |
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21 Oct 2006 09:02:17 PM |
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In article <Xns9863B26A821E5fstone69@66.150.105.47>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/013680.php
A letter from the son of a woman who was stoned to death
This dates from August, and I have a general policy against posting
archival material -- after all, if I post everything worthy that's out
there, whatever its age, I could spend all day every day doing it and
still never catch up. But I have to make an exception for this, as it
just was sent to me today by Jihad Watch reader James, and it is, I
think, an extraordinary insight into the human cost of Sharia. The
Sharia that the jihadists are laboring to impose upon us is the Sharia
that cost this boy his mother, and scarred his life forever after.
All decent people, all people who still retain an ounce of humanity,
should resist it. This is a post from the Iranian the blog of Azadeh
Pourzand (thanks again to James): "A letter about Stoning to Death."
All decent people should wish to invade Iran and kill women and kids
like this to save them from being stoned. Don't let some poor Iranian
kid live to be forty and deal with the psychological scars of seeing
his mother killed. Kill them both now!
--Sean C
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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21 Oct 2006 10:14:29 PM |
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:02:17 -0400, Sean C
<redhawk@burnspammersalive.com> wrote:
All decent people should wish to invade Iran and kill women and kids
like this to save them from being stoned. Don't let some poor Iranian
kid live to be forty and deal with the psychological scars of seeing
his mother killed. Kill them both now!
Kill them all and let God sor^H^H^H^H^H
Sorry, they repudiated that statement, didn't they? Didn't repudiate
doing it when it was expedient, though.
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- George W. Bush, quoted in George Magazine, September, 2000
"God gave the savior to the German people. We have faith,
deep and unshakeable faith, that he was sent to us by
God to save Germany."
- Hermann Goering, speaking of Hitler
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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22 Oct 2006 07:40:30 AM |
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Sean C <redhawk@burnspammersalive.com> wrote in
news:211020062202173620%redhawk@burnspammersalive.com:
In article <Xns9863B26A821E5fstone69@66.150.105.47>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/013680.php
A letter from the son of a woman who was stoned to death
This dates from August, and I have a general policy against posting
archival material -- after all, if I post everything worthy that's
out there, whatever its age, I could spend all day every day doing it
and still never catch up. But I have to make an exception for this,
as it just was sent to me today by Jihad Watch reader James, and it
is, I think, an extraordinary insight into the human cost of Sharia.
The Sharia that the jihadists are laboring to impose upon us is the
Sharia that cost this boy his mother, and scarred his life forever
after.
All decent people, all people who still retain an ounce of humanity,
should resist it. This is a post from the Iranian the blog of Azadeh
Pourzand (thanks again to James): "A letter about Stoning to Death."
All decent people should wish to invade Iran and kill women and kids
like this to save them from being stoned. Don't let some poor Iranian
kid live to be forty and deal with the psychological scars of seeing
his mother killed. Kill them both now!
Interesting how the only two responses from the lefties are almost
identically stupid strawmen.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Some days the impatience with Iraq just seems artificial — as though
the real argument is about something else entirely." - Dinocrat
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "655321" |
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22 Oct 2006 07:05:53 PM |
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In article <Xns986461C8DEC76fstone69@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Interesting how the only two responses from the lefties are almost
identically stupid strawmen.
Given that the posting of the article itself is a straw man...
Or did you have some *purpose* in posting an article that basically
rehashes old news about the brutality of hard-line Islam?
--
655321
"Heed the message served with every Republican banquet speech -- that the
private interest precedes the public interest, that money is good for rich
people, bad for poor people -- and who can say that the war in Iraq has proven
to be anything other than the transformation of a godforsaken desert into a
defense contractor's Garden of Eden?" -- Lewis Lapham
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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23 Oct 2006 07:28:01 AM |
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655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote in
news:DipthotDipthot-3B02B5.17055222102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com:
In article <Xns986461C8DEC76fstone69@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Interesting how the only two responses from the lefties are almost
identically stupid strawmen.
Given that the posting of the article itself is a straw man...
Exactly what argument is misrepresented there?
Or did you have some *purpose* in posting an article that basically
rehashes old news about the brutality of hard-line Islam?
It seems that certain individuals on this newsgroup need constant
reminders of the brutality of hard-line Islam.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Some days the impatience with Iraq just seems artificial — as though
the real argument is about something else entirely." - Dinocrat
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "655321" |
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23 Oct 2006 07:39:17 PM |
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In article <Xns98655FAB51B42fstone69@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote in
news:DipthotDipthot-3B02B5.17055222102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com:
In article <Xns986461C8DEC76fstone69@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Interesting how the only two responses from the lefties are almost
identically stupid strawmen.
Given that the posting of the article itself is a straw man...
Exactly what argument is misrepresented there?
Right. There was no point.
Or did you have some *purpose* in posting an article that basically
rehashes old news about the brutality of hard-line Islam?
It seems that certain individuals on this newsgroup need constant
reminders of the brutality of hard-line Islam.
In other words, straw-certain-individuals-in-this-newsgroup.
--
655321
"Heed the message served with every Republican banquet speech -- that the
private interest precedes the public interest, that money is good for rich
people, bad for poor people -- and who can say that the war in Iraq has proven
to be anything other than the transformation of a godforsaken desert into a
defense contractor's Garden of Eden?" -- Lewis Lapham
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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24 Oct 2006 06:19:51 PM |
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655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote in
news:DipthotDipthot-8F21CC.17391523102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com:
In article <Xns98655FAB51B42fstone69@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote in
news:DipthotDipthot-3B02B5.17055222102006
@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com:
In article <Xns986461C8DEC76fstone69@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Interesting how the only two responses from the lefties are almost
identically stupid strawmen.
Given that the posting of the article itself is a straw man...
Exactly what argument is misrepresented there?
Right. There was no point.
So you're just talking through your hat.
Or did you have some *purpose* in posting an article that basically
rehashes old news about the brutality of hard-line Islam?
It seems that certain individuals on this newsgroup need constant
reminders of the brutality of hard-line Islam.
In other words, straw-certain-individuals-in-this-newsgroup.
In other words, you're one of them and don't like to be reminded of the
facts of life.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Some days the impatience with Iraq just seems artificial — as though
the real argument is about something else entirely." - Dinocrat
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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24 Oct 2006 08:13:45 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote in
news:DipthotDipthot-8F21CC.17391523102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com:
In article <Xns98655FAB51B42fstone69@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote in
news:DipthotDipthot-3B02B5.17055222102006
@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com:
In article <Xns986461C8DEC76fstone69@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Interesting how the only two responses from the lefties are almost
identically stupid strawmen.
Given that the posting of the article itself is a straw man...
Exactly what argument is misrepresented there?
Right. There was no point.
So you're just talking through your hat.
So... you've got nothing but personal attacks.
Or did you have some *purpose* in posting an article that basically
rehashes old news about the brutality of hard-line Islam?
It seems that certain individuals on this newsgroup need constant
reminders of the brutality of hard-line Islam.
In other words, straw-certain-individuals-in-this-newsgroup.
In other words, you're one of them and don't like to be reminded of the
facts of life.
So... you've got nothing but personal attacks. My turn: Grow a
frackin' sense of humor. My first posted response was facetious, as
should be obvious to any reasonable person not so blinded by ideology
that he only sees the dim shapes of a straw army supposedly coming his
way.
655321
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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25 Oct 2006 04:49:20 PM |
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wrote in
news:1161738825.365677.278120@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote in
news:DipthotDipthot-8F21CC.17391523102006
@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com
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In article <Xns98655FAB51B42fstone69@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
655321 <DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote in
news:DipthotDipthot-3B02B5.17055222102006
@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com:
In article <Xns986461C8DEC76fstone69@66.150.105.47>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Interesting how the only two responses from the lefties are
almost identically stupid strawmen.
Given that the posting of the article itself is a straw man...
Exactly what argument is misrepresented there?
Right. There was no point.
So you're just talking through your hat.
So... you've got nothing but personal attacks.
So you've got nothing but facetious crap.
Or did you have some *purpose* in posting an article that
basically rehashes old news about the brutality of hard-line
Islam?
It seems that certain individuals on this newsgroup need constant
reminders of the brutality of hard-line Islam.
In other words, straw-certain-individuals-in-this-newsgroup.
In other words, you're one of them and don't like to be reminded of
the facts of life.
So... you've got nothing but personal attacks. My turn: Grow a
frackin' sense of humor. My first posted response was facetious, as
should be obvious to any reasonable person not so blinded by ideology
that he only sees the dim shapes of a straw army supposedly coming his
way.
Well duh. What do you expect when the only responses I get are facetious
crap? Maybe you'd prefer I should whine like a Democrat when one of
their untouchable "victims" is criticized?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Some days the impatience with Iraq just seems artificial — as though
the real argument is about something else entirely." - Dinocrat
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23 Oct 2006 01:33:53 AM |
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In article <Xns986461C8DEC76fstone69@66.150.105.47>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Sean C <redhawk@burnspammersalive.com> wrote in
news:211020062202173620%redhawk@burnspammersalive.com:
In article <Xns9863B26A821E5fstone69@66.150.105.47>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/013680.php
A letter from the son of a woman who was stoned to death
This dates from August, and I have a general policy against posting
archival material -- after all, if I post everything worthy that's
out there, whatever its age, I could spend all day every day doing it
and still never catch up. But I have to make an exception for this,
as it just was sent to me today by Jihad Watch reader James, and it
is, I think, an extraordinary insight into the human cost of Sharia.
The Sharia that the jihadists are laboring to impose upon us is the
Sharia that cost this boy his mother, and scarred his life forever
after.
All decent people, all people who still retain an ounce of humanity,
should resist it. This is a post from the Iranian the blog of Azadeh
Pourzand (thanks again to James): "A letter about Stoning to Death."
All decent people should wish to invade Iran and kill women and kids
like this to save them from being stoned. Don't let some poor Iranian
kid live to be forty and deal with the psychological scars of seeing
his mother killed. Kill them both now!
Interesting how the only two responses from the lefties are almost
identically stupid strawmen.
That is the point of the article, Einstein. The article is trying to
get you to sympathize with the Iranians to support an invasion. How
else are we supposed to "resist" this sort of thing?
--Sean C
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23 Oct 2006 07:29:04 AM |
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Sean C <redhawk@burnspammersalive.com> wrote in
news:231020060233539677%redhawk@burnspammersalive.com:
In article <Xns986461C8DEC76fstone69@66.150.105.47>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Sean C <redhawk@burnspammersalive.com> wrote in
news:211020062202173620%redhawk@burnspammersalive.com:
In article <Xns9863B26A821E5fstone69@66.150.105.47>, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/013680.php
A letter from the son of a woman who was stoned to death
This dates from August, and I have a general policy against
posting archival material -- after all, if I post everything
worthy that's out there, whatever its age, I could spend all day
every day doing it and still never catch up. But I have to make an
exception for this, as it just was sent to me today by Jihad Watch
reader James, and it is, I think, an extraordinary insight into
the human cost of Sharia. The Sharia that the jihadists are
laboring to impose upon us is the Sharia that cost this boy his
mother, and scarred his life forever after.
All decent people, all people who still retain an ounce of
humanity, should resist it. This is a post from the Iranian the
blog of Azadeh Pourzand (thanks again to James): "A letter about
Stoning to Death."
All decent people should wish to invade Iran and kill women and
kids like this to save them from being stoned. Don't let some poor
Iranian kid live to be forty and deal with the psychological scars
of seeing his mother killed. Kill them both now!
Interesting how the only two responses from the lefties are almost
identically stupid strawmen.
That is the point of the article, Einstein. The article is trying to
get you to sympathize with the Iranians to support an invasion. How
else are we supposed to "resist" this sort of thing?
Oh really? And where exactly do you find this attempt to get me to
support an invasion, other than the inside of your paranoid skull?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Some days the impatience with Iraq just seems artificial — as though
the real argument is about something else entirely." - Dinocrat
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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