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"A New Kind Of Religion" |
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04 Aug 2006 06:58:27 AM |
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A New Kind Of Religion |
Stephen Wolfram is spending his energy creating A New Kind of Science .
Bill Gates is spending his time and $$$ bringing innovations in health
and learning to the global community . I submit that what the world
needs most is A New Kind of Religion (NKOR) that encourages people to
question and wonder about the fundamental mystery of existence and
accept the unknown, rather than believe in arbitrary explanations, thus
numbing their power of critical thinking and making them more likely to
engage in or support extreme forms of violence.. I have posted
preliminary thoughts in a blog http://anewkindofreligion.blogspot.com/
.. If you find this interesting, please check it out and let me know
what you think.
Peace,
Seeker O' Truth
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: A New Kind Of Religion |
04 Aug 2006 10:50:09 AM |
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"A New Kind Of Religion" <anewkindofreligion@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1154692707.084198.295710@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
Stephen Wolfram is spending his energy creating A New Kind of Science .
Bill Gates is spending his time and $$$ bringing innovations in health
and learning to the global community . I submit that what the world
needs most is A New Kind of Religion (NKOR) that encourages people to
question and wonder about the fundamental mystery of existence and
accept the unknown, rather than believe in arbitrary explanations, thus
numbing their power of critical thinking and making them more likely to
engage in or support extreme forms of violence.. I have posted
preliminary thoughts in a blog http://anewkindofreligion.blogspot.com/
. If you find this interesting, please check it out and let me know
what you think.
Meet the New God
Same as the Old God
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Doc Smartass
Investigate.
Indict.
Impeach.
Imprison.
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: A New Kind Of Religion |
04 Aug 2006 07:29:39 AM |
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A New Kind Of Religion wrote in alt.atheism
Stephen Wolfram is spending his energy creating A New Kind of Science .
Bill Gates is spending his time and $$$ bringing innovations in health
and learning to the global community . I submit that what the world
needs most is A New Kind of Religion (NKOR) that encourages people to
question and wonder about the fundamental mystery of existence and
accept the unknown, rather than believe in arbitrary explanations, thus
numbing their power of critical thinking and making them more likely to
engage in or support extreme forms of violence.. I have posted
preliminary thoughts in a blog http://anewkindofreligion.blogspot.com/
. If you find this interesting, please check it out and let me know
what you think.
What do you mean by "infinity" exactly?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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| Title: Re: A New Kind Of Religion |
04 Aug 2006 01:48:26 PM |
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In article <d9f6d2h2grh8rs9la67rk912i35g4k5s31@4ax.com>, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
A New Kind Of Religion wrote in alt.atheism
Stephen Wolfram is spending his energy creating A New Kind of Science .
Bill Gates is spending his time and $$$ bringing innovations in health
and learning to the global community . I submit that what the world
needs most is A New Kind of Religion (NKOR) that encourages people to
question and wonder about the fundamental mystery of existence and
accept the unknown, rather than believe in arbitrary explanations, thus
numbing their power of critical thinking and making them more likely to
engage in or support extreme forms of violence.. I have posted
preliminary thoughts in a blog http://anewkindofreligion.blogspot.com/
. If you find this interesting, please check it out and let me know
what you think.
What do you mean by "infinity" exactly?
He's starting a new religion, so clearly he means it in the L. Ron
Hubbard sense:
http://www.infiniti.com
-chib
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Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middla Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: A New Kind Of Religion |
04 Aug 2006 10:01:57 PM |
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chibiabos <chibiabos@nospam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
A New Kind Of Religion wrote in alt.atheism
Stephen Wolfram is spending his energy creating A New Kind of Science .
Bill Gates is spending his time and $$$ bringing innovations in health
and learning to the global community . I submit that what the world
needs most is A New Kind of Religion (NKOR) that encourages people to
question and wonder about the fundamental mystery of existence and
accept the unknown, rather than believe in arbitrary explanations, thus
numbing their power of critical thinking and making them more likely to
engage in or support extreme forms of violence.. I have posted
preliminary thoughts in a blog http://anewkindofreligion.blogspot.com/
. If you find this interesting, please check it out and let me know
what you think.
What do you mean by "infinity" exactly?
He's starting a new religion, so clearly he means it in the L. Ron
Hubbard sense:
http://www.infiniti.com
Do you ever get the impression that for some people, when they
think of "infinity" it gives them a mystical headrush or something?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: A New Kind Of Religion |
03 Aug 2006 11:54:18 PM |
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"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:0a28d217v0eu0hrj0ke3pvd5d710gba4pm@4ax.com...
chibiabos <chibiabos@nospam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
A New Kind Of Religion wrote in alt.atheism
Stephen Wolfram is spending his energy creating A New Kind of Science .
Bill Gates is spending his time and $$$ bringing innovations in health
and learning to the global community . I submit that what the world
needs most is A New Kind of Religion (NKOR) that encourages people to
question and wonder about the fundamental mystery of existence and
accept the unknown, rather than believe in arbitrary explanations, thus
numbing their power of critical thinking and making them more likely to
engage in or support extreme forms of violence.. I have posted
preliminary thoughts in a blog http://anewkindofreligion.blogspot.com/
. If you find this interesting, please check it out and let me know
what you think.
What do you mean by "infinity" exactly?
He's starting a new religion, so clearly he means it in the L. Ron
Hubbard sense:
http://www.infiniti.com
Do you ever get the impression that for some people, when they
think of "infinity" it gives them a mystical headrush or something?
Nah. It makes me think of "Ben Casey". Man, woman,
birth, death, INFINTY!
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^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: A New Kind Of Religion |
03 Aug 2006 12:02:39 PM |
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A New Kind Of Religion wrote:
Stephen Wolfram is spending his energy creating A New Kind of Science .
Bill Gates is spending his time and $$$ bringing innovations in health
and learning to the global community . I submit that what the world
needs most is A New Kind of Religion (NKOR) that encourages people to
question and wonder about the fundamental mystery of existence and
accept the unknown, rather than believe in arbitrary explanations, thus
numbing their power of critical thinking and making them more likely to
engage in or support extreme forms of violence.. I have posted
preliminary thoughts in a blog http://anewkindofreligion.blogspot.com/
. If you find this interesting, please check it out and let me know
what you think.
We have the Church of the SubGenius. More than that you don't need.
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"The world holds two classes of men -- intelligent
men without religion, and religious men without
intelligence".
- Abu'l-Ala-Al-Ma'arri (973-1057; Syrian poet)
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: A New Kind Of Religion |
04 Aug 2006 07:03:30 AM |
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On 4 Aug 2006 04:58:27 -0700, "A New Kind Of Religion"
<anewkindofreligion@gmail.com> wrote:
Stephen Wolfram is spending his energy creating A New Kind of Science .
Bill Gates is spending his time and $$$ bringing innovations in health
and learning to the global community . I submit that what the world
needs most is A New Kind of Religion (NKOR) that encourages people to
question and wonder about the fundamental mystery of existence and
accept the unknown, rather than believe in arbitrary explanations, thus
numbing their power of critical thinking and making them more likely to
engage in or support extreme forms of violence.. I have posted
preliminary thoughts in a blog http://anewkindofreligion.blogspot.com/
. If you find this interesting, please check it out and let me know
what you think.
Why does it need a religion?
Peace,
Seeker O' Truth
A pretentious nym of the kind used by those who have already decided
that there is a metaphysical "truth" to seek.
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| User: "A New Kind Of Religion" |
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| Title: Re: A New Kind Of Religion |
13 Aug 2006 11:09:42 PM |
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I got some good feedback to my original post. I have tried to answer
some of the questions in a home page I created -
http://anewkindofreligion.googlepages.com/ .
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
Why does it need a religion?
First of all, I use word "religion" in lieu of "a set of beliefs,
values and practices". If there was another concise word for this I
would use it; in fact, I use NKOR whenever I can as a substitute for
"religion". Here are two scenarios people would need NKOR:
- When they ask questions about the fundamental mystery of existence,
it would be good if there were NKOR to encourage them to think for
themselves.. When the humans reach this spiritual void, and if for a
variety of reasons they are not thinking critically, it is very easy
for traditional religions to instill in them their dogmatic views ; for
example, there is only our kind of God and our holy books is the
ultimate source of all truth.
- We also need NKOR for basic moral values like the "golden rule".
Traditional religions have this.
A little bit about my personal motivation: I don't necessarily want to
"start" a new religion and be its "prophet" like L. Ron Hubbard. If any
existing religion or set of values gives sufficient importance to NKOR
Primary Priciple, has a dynamic document that captures its basic values
and structure, and has good pitch to appeal to people going through a
"spritual crisis", I would gladly support it and that would be the
NKOR.
Does this make sense?
Thanks.
http://anewkindofreligion.googlepages.com/
http://anewkindofreligion.blogspot.com/
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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| Title: Re: A New Kind Of Religion |
14 Aug 2006 07:55:33 AM |
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On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:09:42 -0500, A New Kind Of Religion wrote
(in article <1155528582.107242.259960@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>):
I got some good feedback to my original post. I have tried to answer
some of the questions in a home page I created -
http://anewkindofreligion.googlepages.com/ .
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
Why does it need a religion?
First of all, I use word "religion" in lieu of "a set of beliefs,
values and practices". If there was another concise word for this I
would use it; in fact, I use NKOR whenever I can as a substitute for
"religion". Here are two scenarios people would need NKOR:
- When they ask questions about the fundamental mystery of existence,
it would be good if there were NKOR to encourage them to think for
themselves.. When the humans reach this spiritual void, and if for a
variety of reasons they are not thinking critically, it is very easy
for traditional religions to instill in them their dogmatic views ; for
example, there is only our kind of God and our holy books is the
ultimate source of all truth.
- We also need NKOR for basic moral values like the "golden rule".
Traditional religions have this.
The "Golden Rule" is merely a great way to ***** someone over while claiming
the high road.
A little bit about my personal motivation: I don't necessarily want to
"start" a new religion and be its "prophet" like L. Ron Hubbard. If any
existing religion or set of values gives sufficient importance to NKOR
Primary Priciple, has a dynamic document that captures its basic values
and structure, and has good pitch to appeal to people going through a
"spritual crisis", I would gladly support it and that would be the
NKOR.
Does this make sense?
No, it does not make any sense.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"No gods were harmed during the making of this post" - Ernest Fairchild
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: A New Kind Of Religion |
14 Aug 2006 08:33:08 AM |
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 07:55:33 -0500, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:09:42 -0500, A New Kind Of Religion wrote
(in article <1155528582.107242.259960@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>):
I got some good feedback to my original post. I have tried to answer
some of the questions in a home page I created -
http://anewkindofreligion.googlepages.com/ .
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
Why does it need a religion?
First of all, I use word "religion" in lieu of "a set of beliefs,
values and practices". If there was another concise word for this I
would use it; in fact, I use NKOR whenever I can as a substitute for
"religion". Here are two scenarios people would need NKOR:
- When they ask questions about the fundamental mystery of existence,
it would be good if there were NKOR to encourage them to think for
themselves.. When the humans reach this spiritual void, and if for a
variety of reasons they are not thinking critically, it is very easy
for traditional religions to instill in them their dogmatic views ; for
example, there is only our kind of God and our holy books is the
ultimate source of all truth.
- We also need NKOR for basic moral values like the "golden rule".
Traditional religions have this.
The "Golden Rule" is merely a great way to ***** someone over while claiming
the high road.
It's a on-size-fits-all for potential sociopaths who need a rule to
tell them how to behave halfway decently towards others.
Its biggest problem is that it puts the person using it into the other
guy's shoes as himself not the other guy.
So proselytisers etc imagine that because they think they would like
to be converted if they didn't believe, this justifies doing it to
everybody else.
As George Bernard Shaw wrote: "Don't do to others what you would have
done unto you, their tastes might be different".
A little bit about my personal motivation: I don't necessarily want to
"start" a new religion and be its "prophet" like L. Ron Hubbard. If any
existing religion or set of values gives sufficient importance to NKOR
Primary Priciple, has a dynamic document that captures its basic values
and structure, and has good pitch to appeal to people going through a
"spritual crisis", I would gladly support it and that would be the
NKOR.
Does this make sense?
No, it does not make any sense.
Nor to me.
A religion is a substitute for thinking and or understanding.
Why do wee need a substitute when the real thing is better?
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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| Title: Re: A New Kind Of Religion |
14 Aug 2006 11:17:01 AM |
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 08:33:08 -0500, Christopher A. Lee wrote
(in article <oeu0e2d0btsk7l46cni64id40qtk9ja04c@4ax.com>):
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 07:55:33 -0500, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:09:42 -0500, A New Kind Of Religion wrote
(in article <1155528582.107242.259960@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>):
I got some good feedback to my original post. I have tried to answer
some of the questions in a home page I created -
http://anewkindofreligion.googlepages.com/ .
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
Why does it need a religion?
First of all, I use word "religion" in lieu of "a set of beliefs,
values and practices". If there was another concise word for this I
would use it; in fact, I use NKOR whenever I can as a substitute for
"religion". Here are two scenarios people would need NKOR:
- When they ask questions about the fundamental mystery of existence,
it would be good if there were NKOR to encourage them to think for
themselves.. When the humans reach this spiritual void, and if for a
variety of reasons they are not thinking critically, it is very easy
for traditional religions to instill in them their dogmatic views ; for
example, there is only our kind of God and our holy books is the
ultimate source of all truth.
- We also need NKOR for basic moral values like the "golden rule".
Traditional religions have this.
The "Golden Rule" is merely a great way to ***** someone over while claiming
the high road.
It's a on-size-fits-all for potential sociopaths who need a rule to
tell them how to behave halfway decently towards others.
Its biggest problem is that it puts the person using it into the other
guy's shoes as himself not the other guy.
So proselytisers etc imagine that because they think they would like
to be converted if they didn't believe, this justifies doing it to
everybody else.
As George Bernard Shaw wrote: "Don't do to others what you would have
done unto you, their tastes might be different".
Indeed. My ethics have two basic parts: Do unto others as they would have you
do unto them.
And:
Put yourself in the other persons shoes and look at it from their point of
view.
A little bit about my personal motivation: I don't necessarily want to
"start" a new religion and be its "prophet" like L. Ron Hubbard. If any
existing religion or set of values gives sufficient importance to NKOR
Primary Priciple, has a dynamic document that captures its basic values
and structure, and has good pitch to appeal to people going through a
"spritual crisis", I would gladly support it and that would be the
NKOR.
Does this make sense?
No, it does not make any sense.
Nor to me.
A religion is a substitute for thinking and or understanding.
Why do wee need a substitute when the real thing is better?
But thinking hurts, don't you know? Honest, I got that as an answer from one
moron a few years back.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"You think atoms like having a half-life?"
Incenjucar
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