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"J Young" |
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07 Aug 2005 12:32:25 PM |
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A Parish That Destroys Myths |
It has been my experience in these ng's that the RCC is generally
viewed in a negative light. The following article may help rectify the
church's reputation in the eyes of some of it's liberal critics.
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A Parish That Destroys Myths
St. Paul of the Cross plays an important role in destroying myths about
the Negro and it delights Father Edward J. Banks, C.P., its pastor.
If you ask him about open housing, civil rights legislation and the
much-publicized Negro revolution, the Passionist priest may take you on
a tour of the neighborhood. He thinks the lives of his parishioners
tell you more about the Negro than he can.
"The parish theme song is that this place evidence of what the Negro
can do if he is given the same opportunity as whites. Every man has got
to have the chance to earn a living."
Father Banks said the lives of his parishioners help educate whites to
the idea that "change has come and you must accept it."
"When people talk about riots, I ask them, 'What was your attitude
10 years ago?'"
However, in destroying myths about the Negro, a few myths have been
created about the parish. Father Banks said St. Paul of the Cross has
been pictured as a parish of wealthy Negroes.
He said this is not totally true. "Many of our parishioners lived in
projects when I came here 13 years ago, and were able to move out and
up because they worked hard. They still work hard. Many of the women
are school teachers and quite a few of the men hold down two jobs so
they can educate their children and live decently." He said, however,
there are well-to-do parishioners.
And he quickly points out that St. Paul of the Cross also serves
residents of two housing projects, Bowen Homes and Perry Homes.
"Father Richard Leary, C.P., has worked hard in serving the
underprivileged. Father Richard has worked with retarded children in
Bowen Homes and is in the process of establishing a medical clinic in
Perry Homes. Two nuns from Holy Family Hospital will work there."
Father Banks is also proud of the parish school which serves many
non-Catholics. "We think our children get a good education and the
school plays a vital role in the community even if it is de-facto
segregated." He said the parish has one white member.
In his 13 years at St. Paul of the Cross and his almost 30 years as a
priest, Father Banks said he has seen numerous changes.
He said the changes were slow at times, but added that past actions
should not be judged by present conditions. "One of my great
experiences was a CYO meeting in 1957 when Negro and white boys and
girls met together. Today it's different and the action comes
faster."
Father Banks discussed the closing of Drexel High School. "Drexel was
probably a good thing at the time it was built, but its closing and the
integration of our other high schools has worked well." He also cited
Archbishop Paul J. Hallinan for desegregating Catholic schools and
hospitals.
Asked about his parishioners' attitude on open housing, Father Banks
replied, "I don't know if it will affect them personally. Negroes
came to this area so they would be free to develop. They developed this
neighborhood and would like for it to be integrated, but if a white
family moves out ... well ... they have pride in their neighborhood."
One of Father Banks' favorite expressions is "the bond of faith."
Asked what he meant by it, he explained it this way:
"When Charlayne Hunter, a member of this parish, began her efforts to
attend the University of Georgia, I heard some Catholics wonder why she
was going to all that trouble. I told them, 'She's one of my
parishioners' and I saw a change of attitude. Later they asked me how
she was doing." Father Banks said he felt this bond of faith in the
early days of meetings with the CYO, the Scouts, the Council of
Catholic Men and the Council of Catholic Women. "We didn't need any
laws to bring them together, their faith did it. I can see a change in
attitude and I think our faith has helped to bridge the gap between
white and Negro. I hope the bond of faith will become much stronger."
The pastor also answered another question about open housing on a tour
of many attractive neighborhoods. "Tell me," he said, "Is this a
white or Negro neighborhood?"
He said many persons who have visited St. Paul of the Cross tell him
when they leave, "Father, it's been an education." This is the
particular witness of St. Paul of the Cross, the pastor said.
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| User: "Mickey" |
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| Title: Re: A Parish That Destroys Myths |
08 Aug 2005 09:36:09 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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It has been my experience in these ng's that the RCC is generally
viewed in a negative light.
And with EXCELLENT cause.
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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| Title: Re: A Parish That Destroys Myths |
08 Aug 2005 04:07:35 PM |
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"Mickey" <mickeySPAMb@SPAMcomcastSPAM.net> wrote in message
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123435945.565705.263190@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
It has been my experience in these ng's that the RCC is generally
viewed in a negative light.
And with EXCELLENT cause.
Beav: "Yeah, gee willikers Wally, I wonder why the Catholic Church is viewed
in a negative light?"
Wally: "I dunno Beav, maybe it was because of all that stuff we learned in
school."
Beav: "What stuff Wally?"
Wally: "You know, just stuff. Like the Inquisitions, the Holy Crusades, the
persecution of just about every other religion on the planet, that sort of
stuff."
Beav: "Oh..."
Wally: "Why the long face Beav?"
Beav: "Well, I just thought that maybe it was because the priest *****-raped
me last month, that's all."
Wally: "Oh, yeah, you know... that too."
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| User: "Mickey" |
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| Title: Re: A Parish That Destroys Myths |
12 Aug 2005 06:28:09 AM |
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"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL2@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeySPAMb@SPAMcomcastSPAM.net> wrote in message
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123435945.565705.263190@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
It has been my experience in these ng's that the RCC is generally
viewed in a negative light.
And with EXCELLENT cause.
Beav: "Yeah, gee willikers Wally, I wonder why the Catholic Church is
viewed
in a negative light?"
Wally: "I dunno Beav, maybe it was because of all that stuff we learned in
school."
Beav: "What stuff Wally?"
Wally: "You know, just stuff. Like the Inquisitions, the Holy Crusades,
the
persecution of just about every other religion on the planet, that sort of
stuff."
Beav: "Oh..."
Wally: "Why the long face Beav?"
Beav: "Well, I just thought that maybe it was because the priest *****-raped
me last month, that's all."
Wally: "Oh, yeah, you know... that too."
Hee hee!!!
Mickey
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: A Parish That Destroys Myths |
08 Aug 2005 10:01:11 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1123435945.565705.263190@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
It has been my experience in these ng's that the RCC is generally
viewed in a negative light. The following article may help rectify the
church's reputation in the eyes of some of it's liberal critics.
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A Parish That Destroys Myths
St. Paul of the Cross plays an important role in destroying myths about
the Negro
You're not just a religious nut, you're a racist, too.
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| User: "Woden" |
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| Title: Re: A Parish That Destroys Myths |
07 Aug 2005 09:56:07 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in news:1123435945.565705.263190
@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
(snip *****)
When they start destroying their god and Jesus myths, we might be a bit
more interested.
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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07 Aug 2005 05:39:16 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, J Young poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
It has been my experience in these ng's that the RCC is generally
viewed in a negative light. The following article may help rectify the
church's reputation in the eyes of some of it's liberal critics.
I take it you want us to generalize from a sample of one.
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Father Banks is also proud of the parish school which serves many
non-Catholics. "We think our children get a good education and the
school plays a vital role in the community even if it is de-facto
segregated." He said the parish has one white member.
It turns out that the "negroes" were less than impressed. The school
closed in 1990 due to lack of enrollment and financial difficulties.
http://tinyurl.com/95ja7
....
Regards,
Josef
I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature.
-- Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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08 Aug 2005 10:21:09 PM |
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In episode <1123435945.565705.263190@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, J
Young burst into the room and exclaimed:
It has been my experience in these ng's that the RCC is generally viewed
in a negative light. The following article may help rectify the church's
reputation in the eyes of some of it's liberal critics.
Have they stopped butt fucking young boys yet?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: A Parish That Destroys Myths |
07 Aug 2005 03:54:34 PM |
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On 7 Aug 2005 10:32:25 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> in
news message <1123435945.565705.263190@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
wrote:
It has been my experience in these ng's that the RCC is generally
viewed in a negative light. The following article may help rectify the
church's reputation in the eyes of some of it's liberal critics.
LOL It might help your case if you could print something newer than
something dated May 2, 1968. (URL below) I guess the Church hasn't
done anything nice in 37 years.
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A Parish That Destroys Myths
St. Paul of the Cross plays an important role in destroying myths about
the Negro and it delights Father Edward J. Banks, C.P., its pastor.
<snip rest of article, see URL>
What gave it away, you ask? The language is a bit anachronistic.
http://www.georgiabulletin.org/local/1968/05/02/b/
Liz #658 BAAWA
Get your facts first, and then you can distort them
as much as you please. -- Mark Twain
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| User: "J Young" |
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07 Aug 2005 09:13:25 PM |
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Liz wrote:
On 7 Aug 2005 10:32:25 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> in
news message <1123435945.565705.263190@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
wrote:
It has been my experience in these ng's that the RCC is generally
viewed in a negative light. The following article may help rectify the
church's reputation in the eyes of some of it's liberal critics.
LOL It might help your case if you could print something newer than
something dated May 2, 1968. (URL below) I guess the Church hasn't
done anything nice in 37 years.
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A Parish That Destroys Myths
St. Paul of the Cross plays an important role in destroying myths about
the Negro and it delights Father Edward J. Banks, C.P., its pastor.
<snip rest of article, see URL>
What gave it away, you ask? The language is a bit anachronistic.
http://www.georgiabulletin.org/local/1968/05/02/b/
Liz #658 BAAWA
Get your facts first, and then you can distort them
as much as you please. -- Mark Twain
Thankyou for the URL>, I usually supply them but forgot this time. Yes
I'm aware of the date; that was the whole purpose.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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08 Aug 2005 06:14:56 AM |
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in article 1123467205.327312.58790@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 8/7/05 10:13 PM:
Liz wrote:
On 7 Aug 2005 10:32:25 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> in
news message <1123435945.565705.263190@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
wrote:
It has been my experience in these ng's that the RCC is generally
viewed in a negative light. The following article may help rectify the
church's reputation in the eyes of some of it's liberal critics.
LOL It might help your case if you could print something newer than
something dated May 2, 1968. (URL below) I guess the Church hasn't
done anything nice in 37 years.
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A Parish That Destroys Myths
St. Paul of the Cross plays an important role in destroying myths about
the Negro and it delights Father Edward J. Banks, C.P., its pastor.
<snip rest of article, see URL>
What gave it away, you ask? The language is a bit anachronistic.
http://www.georgiabulletin.org/local/1968/05/02/b/
Liz #658 BAAWA
Get your facts first, and then you can distort them
as much as you please. -- Mark Twain
Thankyou for the URL>, I usually supply them but forgot this time. Yes
I'm aware of the date; that was the whole purpose.
That the Catholic Church is so hung up on yesterday, it has no
relevance to the here and now?
Paul
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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07 Aug 2005 08:32:39 PM |
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in article lpscf1t4ni22798l1df0mr2nd00ssj9g2q@4ax.com, Liz at
ehuth1@donotspam.com wrote on 8/7/05 4:54 PM:
On 7 Aug 2005 10:32:25 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> in
news message <1123435945.565705.263190@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
wrote:
It has been my experience in these ng's that the RCC is generally
viewed in a negative light. The following article may help rectify the
church's reputation in the eyes of some of it's liberal critics.
LOL It might help your case if you could print something newer than
something dated May 2, 1968. (URL below) I guess the Church hasn't
done anything nice in 37 years.
********************************************
A Parish That Destroys Myths
St. Paul of the Cross plays an important role in destroying myths about
the Negro and it delights Father Edward J. Banks, C.P., its pastor.
<snip rest of article, see URL>
What gave it away, you ask? The language is a bit anachronistic.
http://www.georgiabulletin.org/local/1968/05/02/b/
Thanks for finding it...I knew at once that story had whiskers on
it.
Paul
And I went to the orchive...another story from that very issue is
"Sex Education Desperately Needed"
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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07 Aug 2005 08:10:15 PM |
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On 7 Aug 2005 10:32:25 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
It has been my experience in these ng's that the RCC is generally
viewed in a negative light. The following article may help rectify the
church's reputation in the eyes of some of it's liberal critics.
********************************************
A Parish That Destroys Myths
St. Paul of the Cross plays an important role in destroying myths about
the Negro and it delights Father Edward J. Banks, C.P., its pastor.
ROTFLMFAO!
Oh, you Mackerel snappers! You kill me! You've suddenly discovered
civil rights and have made it your own. What a tremendously huge thing
for the pedophile religion to do!
Admit it. Catholicism is just a front for the biggest child rape
organization on Earth.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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07 Aug 2005 09:10:19 PM |
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in article pvbdf1hlr6cs5djpk669qnuvgnv24ukncu@4ax.com, Steve Knight at
wooly@sonic.net wrote on 8/7/05 9:10 PM:
On 7 Aug 2005 10:32:25 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
It has been my experience in these ng's that the RCC is generally
viewed in a negative light. The following article may help rectify the
church's reputation in the eyes of some of it's liberal critics.
********************************************
A Parish That Destroys Myths
St. Paul of the Cross plays an important role in destroying myths about
the Negro and it delights Father Edward J. Banks, C.P., its pastor.
ROTFLMFAO!
Oh, you Mackerel snappers! You kill me! You've suddenly discovered
civil rights and have made it your own. What a tremendously huge thing
for the pedophile religion to do!
Admit it. Catholicism is just a front for the biggest child rape
organization on Earth.
By now I'm sure you've seen the post that shows this article is from
1968...J Young had to go THAT far back to find something that made his
precious church look even semi-good (disregarding the absurdity of the use
of the term "Negro").
Just like THE 700 CLUB--rerunning the same stores for years and
years, trying to make people believe it's from the here and now.
Paul
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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07 Aug 2005 08:27:40 PM |
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in article 1123435945.565705.263190@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 8/7/05 1:32 PM:
It has been my experience in these ng's that the RCC is generally
viewed in a negative light. The following article may help rectify the
church's reputation in the eyes of some of it's liberal critics.
********************************************
A Parish That Destroys Myths
St. Paul of the Cross plays an important role in destroying myths about
the Negro and it delights Father Edward J. Banks, C.P., its pastor.
If you ask him about open housing, civil rights legislation and the
much-publicized Negro revolution, the Passionist priest may take you on
a tour of the neighborhood. He thinks the lives of his parishioners
tell you more about the Negro than he can.
"The parish theme song is that this place evidence of what the Negro
can do if he is given the same opportunity as whites. Every man has got
to have the chance to earn a living."
Father Banks said the lives of his parishioners help educate whites to
the idea that "change has come and you must accept it."
"When people talk about riots, I ask them, 'What was your attitude
10 years ago?'"
However, in destroying myths about the Negro, a few myths have been
created about the parish. Father Banks said St. Paul of the Cross has
been pictured as a parish of wealthy Negroes.
He said this is not totally true. "Many of our parishioners lived in
projects when I came here 13 years ago, and were able to move out and
up because they worked hard. They still work hard. Many of the women
are school teachers and quite a few of the men hold down two jobs so
they can educate their children and live decently." He said, however,
there are well-to-do parishioners.
And he quickly points out that St. Paul of the Cross also serves
residents of two housing projects, Bowen Homes and Perry Homes.
"Father Richard Leary, C.P., has worked hard in serving the
underprivileged. Father Richard has worked with retarded children in
Bowen Homes and is in the process of establishing a medical clinic in
Perry Homes. Two nuns from Holy Family Hospital will work there."
Father Banks is also proud of the parish school which serves many
non-Catholics. "We think our children get a good education and the
school plays a vital role in the community even if it is de-facto
segregated." He said the parish has one white member.
In his 13 years at St. Paul of the Cross and his almost 30 years as a
priest, Father Banks said he has seen numerous changes.
He said the changes were slow at times, but added that past actions
should not be judged by present conditions. "One of my great
experiences was a CYO meeting in 1957 when Negro and white boys and
girls met together. Today it's different and the action comes
faster."
Father Banks discussed the closing of Drexel High School. "Drexel was
probably a good thing at the time it was built, but its closing and the
integration of our other high schools has worked well." He also cited
Archbishop Paul J. Hallinan for desegregating Catholic schools and
hospitals.
Asked about his parishioners' attitude on open housing, Father Banks
replied, "I don't know if it will affect them personally. Negroes
came to this area so they would be free to develop. They developed this
neighborhood and would like for it to be integrated, but if a white
family moves out ... well ... they have pride in their neighborhood."
One of Father Banks' favorite expressions is "the bond of faith."
Asked what he meant by it, he explained it this way:
"When Charlayne Hunter, a member of this parish, began her efforts to
attend the University of Georgia, I heard some Catholics wonder why she
was going to all that trouble. I told them, 'She's one of my
parishioners' and I saw a change of attitude. Later they asked me how
she was doing." Father Banks said he felt this bond of faith in the
early days of meetings with the CYO, the Scouts, the Council of
Catholic Men and the Council of Catholic Women. "We didn't need any
laws to bring them together, their faith did it. I can see a change in
attitude and I think our faith has helped to bridge the gap between
white and Negro. I hope the bond of faith will become much stronger."
The pastor also answered another question about open housing on a tour
of many attractive neighborhoods. "Tell me," he said, "Is this a
white or Negro neighborhood?"
He said many persons who have visited St. Paul of the Cross tell him
when they leave, "Father, it's been an education." This is the
particular witness of St. Paul of the Cross, the pastor said.
How OLD is this article, that still uses the word "Negro"?
Paul
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