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A Practical Man's Proof of God |
A Practical Man's Proof of God
The purpose of this brief study is to offer a logical, practical,
pragmatic proof of the existence of God from a purely scientific
perspective. To do this, we are assuming that we exist, that there is
reality, and that the matter of which we are made is real. If you do
not believe that you exist, you have bigger problems than this study
will entail and you will have to look elsewhere. [more]
A Help in Understanding What God Is
To help the reader comprehend the nature of God, I would like to borrow
an analogy from the book Flatland by Edwin Abbott.* Abbott was a
mathematician and the model is geometric in nature. It was originally
written in the 19th century for the purposes we are using it for here.
Flatland is the story of a man who lives in a two dimensional
world--like a sheet of paper. In the surface of the paper there is
only length and width-there is no such thing as thickness. You and I
are three-dimensional beings-we have length and width and frequently
considerable thickness. You cannot get me, a three-dimensional being,
into a two-dimensional sheet of paper. You can draw a front view of me
(a portrait), but that is not the whole me. You can draw a top view of
me which because I am bald, ends up being three concentric circles, but
that is not the whole me. If you and I were to look at the man in
Flatland, we would see him as a.... [more]
Who Created God?
One question which inevitably comes up in a discussion of this nature
is what is the origin of God? If God created matter/energy, and
designed the systems that have propelled matter into its present
arrangement, who or what accomplished that for God? Why is it any more
reasonable to believe that God has always "been" than it is to say
that matter has always "been"? As Carl Sagan has said, "If we
say that God has always been, why not save a step and conclude that the
universe has always been?" (Cosmos, p. 257). [more]
What Was the Cause of the Beginning?
It is assumed that the reader has read the first two booklets in this
series, one titled A Practical Man's Proof of God and the other A Help
in Understanding What God Is. In these two booklets, we have
established that all scientific evidence supports the fact that there
was a beginning, and that the beginning was caused. We have also shown
that the creator of time, space, and energy has to be something that is
outside of time, space, and energy. The nature of the cause cannot be
in the three-dimensional physical world in which we live and must be
outside of time to have created time. [more]
Why I Left Atheism
Of all the lessons that I present concerning the existence of God and
of all the material that I try to make available to people to learn
about God's existence, the present lesson, "Why I Left Atheism," is the
lesson in the series that I frankly do not like to present. I guess
none of us like to look back in our lives to a time when we made poor
judgments and foolish mistakes--when we took rather really idiotic
positions--and admit this, especially to people we are not well
acquainted with. I present this lesson, however, because it is my
fervent hope and prayer that perhaps by exposing my mistakes and by
pointing out the things that were a part of my early life, some who
might be following the same paths (to a greater or lesser extent) might
not make those same mistakes. [more]
God's Revelation in His Rocks and in His Word
This paper is a part of the Does God Exist? program which was begun in
1968 by John Clayton as an attempt to show that intelligent,
scientifically literate, thinking people can and should believe in God
and in the Bible as His Word. Your author, John Clayton, is a science
teacher who began his teaching career in the public schools of South
Bend Indiana, in 1959 and has taught physics, chemistry, geology
astronomy, and physical science since that time. Since I was an
atheist for many years and came to believe in God through my studies in
science, it frustrated me to see students and parents who viewed faith
and science as enemies.... [more]
The Problem of Human Suffering
Almost every time that I am involved in a lectureship on a college
campus or a similar place I have people--young people usually--who will
come to me and say, "Well all right, you've shown us that there is some
evidence for God's existence, but if there is a God and if he is a
loving and merciful God, how do you explain the problems of suffering
and death and all the tragedies that happen to people?" Why is it that
these things occur? I believe any question that man can ask has a
reasonable answer-at least an answer that is as consistent with God's
existence as it is in opposition to God's existence. And so, in the
problem of human suffering and the problem of death and
tragedies--things that happen to all of us--there are answers. [more]
The Whiner's Guide to Chemotherapy
This is the epilogue for those of you who flip to the end of the book.
I did make it! I'm 62!!! The exclamation points are because I didn't
think I would see 50. God is so awesome! God would be awesome even if
I had not seen 50, but it is amazing how He has made my cancers turn
out for good--both mine and His. It feels great to feel great! Thank
You, God! [more]
The Real Jesus of History
Was the real Jesus of history one and the same as the Christ of faith
whom we read about in the New Testament and worship in the church? Was
Jesus really raised from the dead? Is he really the divine Lord of
lords? Or is it possible that the portrait of the divine Son of God is
an exaggeration, at best, or a complete fabrication, at worst, of the
original Jesus? Could the one whom Christians worship be merely a
mythological creation or is he real? These questions have exercised
many great minds and have been the dominant issue in New Testament
studies during this century. Between 1910 and 1950 approximately 350
lives of Jesus were published in the English language alone. Since
then the numbers have increased significantly.Not only are Christians
writing about Jesus, but also Communists, Jews, atheists and agnostics
are taking up their pens to paint a portrait of Jesus.
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"bobandcarole~" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com> wrote in message
A Practical Man's Proof of God
By any chance are you related to TimanLisa. Are you they?
Hey I like that composition ----> are you they,, hahahaha
If you're going to own up to drink dependency or a painkiller problem, you
might as well do it in style. As Britney Spears checked into an exclusive
resort in Arizona with 'exhaustion', Helen Brown sneaks a peek at the rehab
elite
Published: 06 January 2007
The Meadows, Arizona
High in the Sonoran Hills, where the cactus roam free and celebrities
actually "need" their sunglasses, The Meadows "multidisorder inpatient
facility" offers "a path to personal completeness and integrity, for those
seeking treatment for trauma and addictions". And it has a tanning deck.
Which is nice.
The approach out in the desert is based on the 12-step programme, augmented
by "small group sessions, intensive boundary work, individual psychiatric
sessions, topic groups, educational videos, recreational and art therapy,
spirituality counselling, nutritional consultation, yoga, tai chi and
acupuncture".
The Meadows may also be the ideal place for bedhoppers who find themselves
addicted to love, as Pia Mellody, the clinical consultant, is the author of
Facing Codependence, Facing Love Addiction and, most recently, The Intimacy
Factor. The centre is good on sexual healing, offering help to those with
issues involving: sexual obsession and intrigue; compulsive masturbation
with or without pornography; compulsive use of cybersex; use of prostitutes,
strip clubs, peeping or sex bookstores and exposing oneself - which may be
another good reason the place is in the desert. Other counsellors include a
depression specialist called Dr Black and guru John Bradshaw, author of The
New York Times bestsellers Homecoming: Reclaiming and Championing Your Inner
Child and Healing the Shame That Binds You.
Celebrity Alumni: Kate Moss, Eric Benet, Mike Tyson, Elle McPherson, Tara
Palmer-Tompkinson, Paul Gascoigne, Ron Wood, Kerry Katona, Michael Barrymore
and Whitney Houston.
Price: £500 per day
Luxury: ****
Toxic Shock: ***
The Priory, Roehampton
With its name a quaint hangover from more monastic times, The Priory is the
British answer to the Betty Ford clinic. Built in 1872, it is London's
oldest private psychiatric hospital and through its white, gothic arches our
bleary-eyed celebrities have shuffled since the hedonistic 1980s. Its 107
beds have been warmed by those with addictions to alcohol, gambling, sex and
computing. And it treats those with eating disorders. It offers cognitive
behavioural therapy, psychotherapy, EMDR (eye movement desensitisation and
reprocessing), NLP (neuro-linguistic programming), equine assisted
psychotherapy, psychodrama, and art and movement therapy.
Dr Peter Rowan, founder of the eating disorder regime, has admitted
receiving cash gifts from a patient and benefited from a £1.5m change in her
will. But that could be argued an incentive to stay alive all the longer ...
Celebrity Alumni: Kate Moss, Caroline Aherne, Johnny Depp, Paula Yates,
Michael Barrymore, Ronnie Wood, Stan Collymore, Paul Gascoigne, Justin
Hawkins
Price: Assessed individually, but reportedly up to £2,500 per week.
Luxury: ***
Toxic Shock: ***
Passages, Malibu, California
No 12 steps for the rehabbers in residence at this beachside resort whose
faux-classical Doric columns positively drip with bougainvillea and whose
Luxury: rooms offer widescreen views to the "contemplative power of the
ocean". Passages was founded in 2001 by the former real estate developer
Chris Prentiss, whose co-director son Pax battled a 10-year heroin
addiction. Prentiss Snr gushes that "as soon as they walk through our
mahogany double doors into our beautiful marble atrium, [our patients] feel
the healing energy and beauty of Passages". He argues that the Spartan
regimes at places like the Betty Ford clinic are "demeaning". The upscale
resort hosts 29 patients at a time. Facilities include a library with a big
scary fireplace, a media room with flat-screen TVs, a meditative koi pond,
massage room, hypnotherapy, acupuncture, "metaphysical classes " (no Woody
Allen style cheating by looking into the soul of the celebrity next to you)
and a restaurant catering to each individual's dietary whim. Guests are,
apparently, welcome to "hang out" in the kitchen, though presumably not the
ones with food addictions. Executive chef Lisa Stalvey is, incidentally,
behind two sauces in Paul Newman's range. Oh, and there's a 12ft replica of
the Statue of Liberty out back.
Celebrity Alumni: Natasha Lyonne and Lindsay Lohan's ex, Brandon Davis
Price: £30,000 a month
Luxury: ****
Toxic Shock: **
The Betty Ford Clinic, California
Almost a byword for detox, the former first lady Betty Ford founded her
not-for-profit treatment centre in 1982 after recovering from an addiction
to alcohol and prescription drugs. The centre has always saved 50 per cent
of its space for women and treatment is gender-specific with women and men
bunked up in separate "sober" halls. The centre's philosophy is based on
(take a deep breath) "a bio-psycho-social-spiritual" philosophy rooted in
the 12-step programme devised by Alcoholics Anonymous in 1935, beginning
with an admission of dependency, humbly asking God (any god - the Betty Ford
Centre is nondemoninational) to "remove all these defects of character", and
finally experiencing a "spiritual awakening". It's hard graft on the
soul-searching front and more pampered types are wont to call its strict and
structured approach " old-fashioned".
Celebrity Alumni: Tony Curtis, Elizabeth Taylor, Stevie Nicks, Johnny Cash,
Billy Joel, Drew Barrymore, Liza Minnelli, Kelsey Grammer, Bobby Brown, Ozzy
Osbourne, Keith Urban, Alice Cooper, Jerry Lee Lewis, Tammy Wynette, Robert
Mitchum, David Hasselhoff, Richard Pryor and Jay-Z.
Price: Programmes begin from £180 for four evenings to £19,700 for 90 days.
Luxury: ***
Toxic Shock: ****
Promises, Malibu, California
Forbes magazine says that "when celebrities need to dry out, the first place
on their speed dial is Promises, perhaps the quintessential California rehab
centre". Checking into the website can chill you out (or wind you up) as zen
world music kicks in (Indian drums and Hollywood violins) and views of the
Santa Monica estate pan to show paths leading to the Pacific. The chef
catered for Emmy parties and the tennis pro coached Lindsay Davenport.
Run by a former Pennsylvania dentist, Promises hosts up to 40 at a time in "
Spanish villa style luxury". Days begin at 7am with meditation and private
and group therapy. Then there's acupuncture, yoga, one-on-one meditation,
art therapy, psychiatric assessments and "equine therapy" - psychobabble in
a saddle. Rising at 7am to see Mel Gibson pitching movie ideas at an annoyed
pony, one might well feel the need for a very strong drink.
Celebrity Alumni: Diana Ross, Ben Affleck, Mel Gibson, Robert Downey Jnr,
Charlie Sheen.
Price: £25,000 a month
Luxury: ****
Toxic Shock: **
Tham, Thailand
In Thai, Tham means "cave" and "Kra ja bawk" means " to have something to
say". So the name of Thamkrabok Buddhist monastery in Thailand means "Cave
of the Teaching". Around 130km north of Bangkok, Thamkrabok is home to 100
monks and 20 nuns whose lives provide inspiration to addicts. They built the
place themselves and eat their only meal of the day at 7am.
The order began treating opium addicts in 1961 and continues to treat drug
addicts by encouraging them to meditate and build inner strength against the
clutches of chemicals. Buddhists believe individualls are responsible for
their own actions - so no blaming the parents, or the agent, or the
pressures of stardom here.
And detox begins with a "Satja" ceremony, where the addict is connected to
their own willpower and with something "beyond" that the monastery's
founder, Luangpaw Charoen, has called "the whisper of God". Then there's
"strong herbal medicine and vomiting", " black pills" a steam bath, tea and
lots of meditation.
Celebrity Alumni: Pete Doherty
Price: Treatment and lodging are free. Donations welcome
Luxury: *
Toxic Shock: *****
The Clinic, Northampton
For those who can't afford the glamour detox, there's still the Goody detox.
The former Big Brother contestant Jade Goody has been busy promoting
Northampton's answer to the celebrity purification centre. A short drive
from junction 15 of the M1, opposite Old Racecourse Park, where the annual
Balloon Festival is held, The Clinic is housed in a large Victorian building
promising "a calm and tranquil atmosphere every day". You can see Jade on
the website undergoing some "Aqua Detox", based on traditional Chinese
medicine.
You pop your feet into a bowl filled with warm salt water and a small
electrical charge passes through the water creating "a magnetic field which
corresponds to your body".
Unsurprisingly, this may "tingle". And the water will change colour. I'm not
quite sure why - unless your toes are dirty - but they say: " We can never
diagnose what the colour of the water means as it will change regardless of
the presence of feet!"
The clinic is also very big on colonic irrigation, promising to help "
eliminate stored faecal matter, gas, mucus and toxic substances" from
within. I'm pretty sure the water changes colour then, too.
Celebrity Alumni: Jade Goody
Price: 30 mins of Aqua Detox costs £30
Luxury: **
Toxic Shock: **
The purpose of this brief study is to offer a logical, practical,
pragmatic proof of the existence of God from a purely scientific
perspective. To do this, we are assuming that we exist, that there is
reality, and that the matter of which we are made is real. If you do
not believe that you exist, you have bigger problems than this study
will entail and you will have to look elsewhere. [more]
A Help in Understanding What God Is
To help the reader comprehend the nature of God, I would like to borrow
an analogy from the book Flatland by Edwin Abbott.* Abbott was a
mathematician and the model is geometric in nature. It was originally
written in the 19th century for the purposes we are using it for here.
Flatland is the story of a man who lives in a two dimensional
world--like a sheet of paper. In the surface of the paper there is
only length and width-there is no such thing as thickness. You and I
are three-dimensional beings-we have length and width and frequently
considerable thickness. You cannot get me, a three-dimensional being,
into a two-dimensional sheet of paper. You can draw a front view of me
(a portrait), but that is not the whole me. You can draw a top view of
me which because I am bald, ends up being three concentric circles, but
that is not the whole me. If you and I were to look at the man in
Flatland, we would see him as a.... [more]
Who Created God?
One question which inevitably comes up in a discussion of this nature
is what is the origin of God? If God created matter/energy, and
designed the systems that have propelled matter into its present
arrangement, who or what accomplished that for God? Why is it any more
reasonable to believe that God has always "been" than it is to say
that matter has always "been"? As Carl Sagan has said, "If we
say that God has always been, why not save a step and conclude that the
universe has always been?" (Cosmos, p. 257). [more]
What Was the Cause of the Beginning?
It is assumed that the reader has read the first two booklets in this
series, one titled A Practical Man's Proof of God and the other A Help
in Understanding What God Is. In these two booklets, we have
established that all scientific evidence supports the fact that there
was a beginning, and that the beginning was caused. We have also shown
that the creator of time, space, and energy has to be something that is
outside of time, space, and energy. The nature of the cause cannot be
in the three-dimensional physical world in which we live and must be
outside of time to have created time. [more]
Why I Left Atheism
Of all the lessons that I present concerning the existence of God and
of all the material that I try to make available to people to learn
about God's existence, the present lesson, "Why I Left Atheism," is the
lesson in the series that I frankly do not like to present. I guess
none of us like to look back in our lives to a time when we made poor
judgments and foolish mistakes--when we took rather really idiotic
positions--and admit this, especially to people we are not well
acquainted with. I present this lesson, however, because it is my
fervent hope and prayer that perhaps by exposing my mistakes and by
pointing out the things that were a part of my early life, some who
might be following the same paths (to a greater or lesser extent) might
not make those same mistakes. [more]
God's Revelation in His Rocks and in His Word
This paper is a part of the Does God Exist? program which was begun in
1968 by John Clayton as an attempt to show that intelligent,
scientifically literate, thinking people can and should believe in God
and in the Bible as His Word. Your author, John Clayton, is a science
teacher who began his teaching career in the public schools of South
Bend Indiana, in 1959 and has taught physics, chemistry, geology
astronomy, and physical science since that time. Since I was an
atheist for many years and came to believe in God through my studies in
science, it frustrated me to see students and parents who viewed faith
and science as enemies.... [more]
The Problem of Human Suffering
Almost every time that I am involved in a lectureship on a college
campus or a similar place I have people--young people usually--who will
come to me and say, "Well all right, you've shown us that there is some
evidence for God's existence, but if there is a God and if he is a
loving and merciful God, how do you explain the problems of suffering
and death and all the tragedies that happen to people?" Why is it that
these things occur? I believe any question that man can ask has a
reasonable answer-at least an answer that is as consistent with God's
existence as it is in opposition to God's existence. And so, in the
problem of human suffering and the problem of death and
tragedies--things that happen to all of us--there are answers. [more]
The Whiner's Guide to Chemotherapy
This is the epilogue for those of you who flip to the end of the book.
I did make it! I'm 62!!! The exclamation points are because I didn't
think I would see 50. God is so awesome! God would be awesome even if
I had not seen 50, but it is amazing how He has made my cancers turn
out for good--both mine and His. It feels great to feel great! Thank
You, God! [more]
The Real Jesus of History
Was the real Jesus of history one and the same as the Christ of faith
whom we read about in the New Testament and worship in the church? Was
Jesus really raised from the dead? Is he really the divine Lord of
lords? Or is it possible that the portrait of the divine Son of God is
an exaggeration, at best, or a complete fabrication, at worst, of the
original Jesus? Could the one whom Christians worship be merely a
mythological creation or is he real? These questions have exercised
many great minds and have been the dominant issue in New Testament
studies during this century. Between 1910 and 1950 approximately 350
lives of Jesus were published in the English language alone. Since
then the numbers have increased significantly.Not only are Christians
writing about Jesus, but also Communists, Jews, atheists and agnostics
are taking up their pens to paint a portrait of Jesus.
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AOLoser "bob's" x-posting to
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Idiot and thief "bobandcarole~" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com> wrote in
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<stolen tripe flushed>
Sheesh...is there a way to filter out an IP address?:
From: "bobandcarole~" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com>
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Date: 11 Jan 2007 16:42:41 -0800
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Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Wisdom is a most important quality to develop if one desires to
live a life at peace.
Date: 11 Jan 2007 10:20:58 -0800
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From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
Newsgroups:
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LC~ Talk about your Three Stooges...
"There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action."~ Johann Goethe
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LC wrote:
AOLoser "bob's" x-posting to
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dumped>
Idiot and thief "bobandcarole~" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com> wrote in
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<stolen tripe flushed>
Sheesh...is there a way to filter out an IP address?:
Just keep filtering every "bob and carol" till they stop showing up,
took me about 12 attempts to finally get rid of Daniel Min, he has many
aliases that differ from one to the other often by so little as one
letter or number.
--
JL
From: "bobandcarole~" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups:
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Subject: A Practical Man's Proof of God
Date: 11 Jan 2007 16:42:41 -0800
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.100.199
From: "V" <vfr44@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Wisdom is a most important quality to develop if one desires to
live a life at peace.
Date: 11 Jan 2007 10:20:58 -0800
Message-ID: <1168539658.386805.28020@i39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.100.199
From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
Newsgroups:
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Subject: Pedophiles flying high
Date: 4 Dec 2006 10:32:10 -0800
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.100.199
LC~ Talk about your Three Stooges...
"There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action."~ Johann Goethe
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LC wrote:
AOLoser "bob's" x-posting to
alt.support.boy-lovers,alt.atheism,alt.homosexual,alt.abortion,alt.recovery.aa
dumped>
Idiot and thief "bobandcarole~" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:1168562561.639426.78300@i15g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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<stolen tripe flushed>
Sheesh...is there a way to filter out an IP address?:
From: "bobandcarole~" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.support.boy-lovers,alt.atheism,alt.homosexual,alt.abortion,alt.recovery.aa
Subject: A Practical Man's Proof of God
Date: 11 Jan 2007 16:42:41 -0800
Message-ID: <1168562561.639426.78300@i15g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.100.199
From: "V" <vfr44@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Wisdom is a most important quality to develop if one desires to
live a life at peace.
Date: 11 Jan 2007 10:20:58 -0800
Message-ID: <1168539658.386805.28020@i39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.100.199
From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
Subject: Pedophiles flying high
Date: 4 Dec 2006 10:32:10 -0800
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.100.199
LC~ Talk about your Three Stooges...
Nice work. What do you conclude? It's rather impossible for these
trolls to share the same posting IP, unless :
- Maybe they use the same anonymizer?
- "They're" the same idiot?
- It's a club?
I tried to traceroute the address, but it times out after a while.
Olrik
"There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action."~ Johann Goethe
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"Olrik" <olrik666@gmail.com> wrote in message
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LC wrote:
AOLoser "bob's" x-posting to
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Idiot and thief "bobandcarole~" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com> wrote in
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<stolen tripe flushed>
Sheesh...is there a way to filter out an IP address?:
From: "bobandcarole~" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups:
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Subject: A Practical Man's Proof of God
Date: 11 Jan 2007 16:42:41 -0800
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From: "V" <vfr44@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Wisdom is a most important quality to develop if one desires to
live a life at peace.
Date: 11 Jan 2007 10:20:58 -0800
Message-ID: <1168539658.386805.28020@i39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
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From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
Newsgroups:
alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
Subject: Pedophiles flying high
Date: 4 Dec 2006 10:32:10 -0800
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LC~ Talk about your Three Stooges...
Nice work. What do you conclude?
As Mark A has already shown, only that they're all trolls abusing AOL proxy
servers.
While "J Young" has previously been shown to have more sockpuppets than IQ
points, I don't believe he's behind the "V" and "bobandcarole" nyms.
It's rather impossible for these trolls to share the same posting IP,
unless :
- Maybe they use the same anonymizer?
- "They're" the same idiot?
- It's a club?
I tried to traceroute the address, but it times out after a while.
Olrik
"There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action."~ Johann
Goethe
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12 Jan 2007 07:08:04 AM |
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:33:06 -0800, Olrik wrote:
LC wrote:
AOLoser "bob's" x-posting to
alt.support.boy-lovers,alt.atheism,alt.homosexual,alt.abortion,alt.recovery.aa
dumped>
Idiot and thief "bobandcarole~" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:1168562561.639426.78300@i15g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
A Practical Man's Proof of God
<stolen tripe flushed>
Sheesh...is there a way to filter out an IP address?:
From: "bobandcarole~" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com> Newsgroups:
alt.support.boy-lovers,alt.atheism,alt.homosexual,alt.abortion,alt.recovery.aa
Subject: A Practical Man's Proof of God Date: 11 Jan 2007 16:42:41 -0800
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From: "V" <vfr44@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Wisdom is a most important quality to develop if one desires to
live a life at peace.
Date: 11 Jan 2007 10:20:58 -0800
Message-ID: <1168539658.386805.28020@i39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
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From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> Newsgroups:
alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
Subject: Pedophiles flying high
Date: 4 Dec 2006 10:32:10 -0800
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LC~ Talk about your Three Stooges...
Nice work. What do you conclude? It's rather impossible for these trolls
to share the same posting IP, unless :
- Maybe they use the same anonymizer? - "They're" the same idiot?
- It's a club?
I tried to traceroute the address, but it times out after a while.
Olrik
"There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action."~ Johann
Goethe
$ whois 152.163.100.199
[Querying whois.arin.net]
[whois.arin.net]
OrgName: America Online
OrgID: AOL
Address: 22000 AOL Way
City: Dulles
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: 20166
Country: US
NetRange: 152.163.0.0 - 152.163.255.255
CIDR: 152.163.0.0/16
NetName: AOL-BNET
NetHandle: NET-152-163-0-0-1
Parent: NET-152-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: DNS-01.NS.AOL.COM
NameServer: DNS-02.NS.AOL.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 1992-04-01
Updated: 1999-12-02
RTechHandle: AOL-NOC-ARIN
RTechName: America Online, Inc.
RTechPhone: +1-703-265-4670
RTechEmail:
OrgAbuseHandle: AOL382-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Abuse
OrgAbusePhone: +1-703-265-4670
OrgAbuseEmail:
OrgNOCHandle: AOL236-ARIN
OrgNOCName: NOC
OrgNOCPhone: +1-703-265-4670
OrgNOCEmail:
OrgTechHandle: AOL-NOC-ARIN
OrgTechName: America Online, Inc.
OrgTechPhone: +1-703-265-4670
OrgTechEmail:
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2007-01-11 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
[AOL|WebTV] + googlegroups.com = Troll
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MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Olrik" |
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12 Jan 2007 10:13:55 AM |
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MarkA wrote:
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:33:06 -0800, Olrik wrote:
LC wrote:
AOLoser "bob's" x-posting to
alt.support.boy-lovers,alt.atheism,alt.homosexual,alt.abortion,alt.recovery.aa
dumped>
Idiot and thief "bobandcarole~" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:1168562561.639426.78300@i15g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
A Practical Man's Proof of God
<stolen tripe flushed>
Sheesh...is there a way to filter out an IP address?:
From: "bobandcarole~" <bobandcarole007@hotmail.com> Newsgroups:
alt.support.boy-lovers,alt.atheism,alt.homosexual,alt.abortion,alt.recovery.aa
Subject: A Practical Man's Proof of God Date: 11 Jan 2007 16:42:41 -0800
Message-ID: <1168562561.639426.78300@i15g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.100.199
From: "V" <vfr44@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Wisdom is a most important quality to develop if one desires to
live a life at peace.
Date: 11 Jan 2007 10:20:58 -0800
Message-ID: <1168539658.386805.28020@i39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.100.199
From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> Newsgroups:
alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
Subject: Pedophiles flying high
Date: 4 Dec 2006 10:32:10 -0800
Message-ID: <1165257130.476077.227180@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.100.199
LC~ Talk about your Three Stooges...
Nice work. What do you conclude? It's rather impossible for these trolls
to share the same posting IP, unless :
- Maybe they use the same anonymizer? - "They're" the same idiot?
- It's a club?
I tried to traceroute the address, but it times out after a while.
Olrik
"There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action."~ Johann
Goethe
$ whois 152.163.100.199
[Querying whois.arin.net]
[whois.arin.net]
OrgName: America Online
OrgID: AOL
Address: 22000 AOL Way
City: Dulles
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: 20166
Country: US
NetRange: 152.163.0.0 - 152.163.255.255
CIDR: 152.163.0.0/16
NetName: AOL-BNET
NetHandle: NET-152-163-0-0-1
Parent: NET-152-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: DNS-01.NS.AOL.COM
NameServer: DNS-02.NS.AOL.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 1992-04-01
Updated: 1999-12-02
RTechHandle: AOL-NOC-ARIN
RTechName: America Online, Inc.
RTechPhone: +1-703-265-4670
RTechEmail:
OrgAbuseHandle: AOL382-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Abuse
OrgAbusePhone: +1-703-265-4670
OrgAbuseEmail:
OrgNOCHandle: AOL236-ARIN
OrgNOCName: NOC
OrgNOCPhone: +1-703-265-4670
OrgNOCEmail:
OrgTechHandle: AOL-NOC-ARIN
OrgTechName: America Online, Inc.
OrgTechPhone: +1-703-265-4670
OrgTechEmail:
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2007-01-11 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
[AOL|WebTV] + googlegroups.com = Troll
Yeah, it looks like it. Thanks.
Olrik
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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17 Jan 2007 02:44:02 AM |
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I would think that if the existence of God could actually be proven,
then this would show God to be somehow less than any set of rules which
would appear to encompass Him. Thus, a "provable" God would not be
omnipotent...
Just thinking, late at night.
Rob
bobandcarole~ wrote:
A Practical Man's Proof of God
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| User: "Virtualoso" |
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17 Jan 2007 04:35:00 AM |
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In article <1169023442.473095.13360@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, Rob
D. <fr.robert.dye@gmail.com> wrote:
I would think that if the existence of God could actually be proven,
then this would show God to be somehow less than any set of rules which
would appear to encompass Him. Thus, a "provable" God would not be
omnipotent...
I don't get the struggling with "ifs" about this.
1. That God can allow for us to perceive It at our own level doesn't
require that the entirety of God be stepped down to that.
2. I guess I note the concurrance among a number of traditions all
saying: "God is All" -- "The All in All". Well, okay... here it All is,
after all.
3. What "else" could there be?
The next matter might be: what difference does/could it make to know
that or not?
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17 Jan 2007 10:38:17 AM |
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"Virtualoso" <uhuh@no.com> wrote in message
news:170120070235002520%uhuh@no.com...
In article <1169023442.473095.13360@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, Rob
D. <fr.robert.dye@gmail.com> wrote:
I would think that if the existence of God could actually be proven...
The next matter might be: what difference does/could it make to know
that or not?
Exactly - so it couldn't hurt for the masses to mostly ignore the whole
business and leave it up to the professionals to hash out.
Hi, Rob! (Continue hashing.) 8~)
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17 Jan 2007 07:11:46 PM |
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In article <pssrh.18$Cy2.3@newsfe05.lga>, Craig S.
<cspurlocktakethisout@takethisoutmtneer.net> wrote:
"Virtualoso" <uhuh@no.com> wrote in message
news:170120070235002520%uhuh@no.com...
In article <1169023442.473095.13360@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, Rob
D. <fr.robert.dye@gmail.com> wrote:
I would think that if the existence of God could actually be proven...
The next matter might be: what difference does/could it make to know
that or not?
Exactly - so it couldn't hurt for the masses to mostly ignore the whole
business and leave it up to the professionals to hash out.
Hi, Rob! (Continue hashing.) 8~)
Unless there are other, better answers to that question.
Generally, I mostly find two major, popular ones. You just did a pretty
good job at one of them.
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17 Jan 2007 07:08:27 AM |
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Virtualoso <uhuh@no.com> wrote in news:170120070235002520%uhuh@no.com:
I don't get the struggling with "ifs" about this.
1. That God can allow for us to perceive It at our own level doesn't
require that the entirety of God be stepped down to that.
2. I guess I note the concurrance among a number of traditions all
saying: "God is All" -- "The All in All". Well, okay... here it All is,
after all.
3. What "else" could there be?
The next matter might be: what difference does/could it make to know
that or not?
You're putting way too much into this Champ. It's all horseshit, and
gunsmoke. You know, a Wizard Of Oz type of thing. Go watch a cartoon, or
something else that makes sense.
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17 Jan 2007 07:10:37 PM |
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In article <Xns98BB529468CA1Chubbychaser@216.151.153.13>, Agnostico
<Agnostico@yahoo.com> wrote:
Virtualoso <uhuh@no.com> wrote in news:170120070235002520%uhuh@no.com:
I don't get the struggling with "ifs" about this.
1. That God can allow for us to perceive It at our own level doesn't
require that the entirety of God be stepped down to that.
2. I guess I note the concurrance among a number of traditions all
saying: "God is All" -- "The All in All". Well, okay... here it All is,
after all.
3. What "else" could there be?
The next matter might be: what difference does/could it make to know
that or not?
You're putting way too much into this Champ. It's all horseshit, and
gunsmoke. You know, a Wizard Of Oz type of thing. Go watch a cartoon, or
something else that makes sense.
I realize that you probably insist upon ONLY some concept of "a god"
that's silly and unbelievable as being the ONLY possible concept that
anyone else must -- and could only -- be referring to, as well.
This is the classic Atheist Troll Insulter gambit, yes.
And you line right up with that, of course.
Well, hey, go to town shooting at your own noggin concepts, then.
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18 Jan 2007 08:02:37 AM |
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Virtualoso <uhuh@no.com> wrote in news:170120071710375743%uhuh@no.com:
I realize that you probably insist upon ONLY some concept of "a god"
that's silly and unbelievable as being the ONLY possible concept that
anyone else must -- and could only -- be referring to, as well.
No, you're wrong Champ. What's good for me, isn't always good for you.
You can believe as you wish. It's you believers who get their nips in a
twist, when somebody doesn't believe as you think they should. How
arrogant.
Feel free to listen to the directions of a guy in Rome surrounded by
luxury, while members of his " FLOCK " are starving to death, or be taken
in by some snake charming gap toothed hillbilly preacher at the " White
Trash Apostolic Church Of God ", or you might even take another approach
and think that you're not just that important to know everything in the
Top Secret God File, and say to yourself... "Hey, if I just concentrate
on being a good person, instead of a fucking know it all, my ***** is
covered."
This is the classic Atheist Troll Insulter gambit, yes.
Pot, kettle, black, you show up once a month with your wannabe author,
wordsmith skills, and pontificate your brand of *****, and expect the
peanut gallery to take it all in, eh Reverand Swaggart ?
Well, hey, go to town shooting at your own noggin concepts, then.
You couldn't limp into town Champ. You've been shooting yourself in the
foot for years.
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18 Jan 2007 09:31:19 AM |
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"Agnostico" <Agnostico@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98BC5BBD7381FChubbychaser@216.151.153.13...
say to yourself... "Hey, if I just concentrate
on being a good person, instead of a fucking know it all, my ***** is
covered."
Covered against what exactly?
you show up once a month with your wannabe author,
wordsmith skills, and pontificate your brand of *****, and expect the
peanut gallery to take it all in, eh Reverand Swaggart ?
It hasn't always been that way. Virt has been quite prolific for extended
periods before.
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| User: "Agnostico" |
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18 Jan 2007 02:39:13 PM |
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"Craig S." <cspurlocktakethisout@takethisoutmtneer.net> wrote in
news:VzMrh.8$4J5.0@newsfe05.lga:
Covered against what exactly?
The fires of hell. We don't want to ***** Big Daddy off do we ?
you show up once a month with your wannabe author,
wordsmith skills, and pontificate your brand of *****, and expect
the peanut gallery to take it all in, eh Reverand Swaggart ?
It hasn't always been that way. Virt has been quite prolific for
extended periods before.
You don't need to remind me. We've all heard the Gospel of St. Virt.
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| User: "Virtualoso" |
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18 Jan 2007 07:35:23 PM |
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In article <Xns98BC9EF8B5D92Chubbychaser@216.151.153.13>, Agnostico
<Agnostico@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Craig S." <cspurlocktakethisout@takethisoutmtneer.net> wrote in
news:VzMrh.8$4J5.0@newsfe05.lga:
Covered against what exactly?
The fires of hell. We don't want to ***** Big Daddy off do we ?
you show up once a month with your wannabe author,
wordsmith skills, and pontificate your brand of *****, and expect
the peanut gallery to take it all in, eh Reverand Swaggart ?
It hasn't always been that way. Virt has been quite prolific for
extended periods before.
You don't need to remind me. We've all heard the Gospel of St. Virt.
Meanwhile we've got a yokel that NAMES themself as an "agnost" while
pretending that it isn't somehow a bozo-belief over-identification with
what they can only muster as imagining what they don't believe exists.
What's the point?
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18 Jan 2007 09:52:15 AM |
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"Craig S." <cspurlocktakethisout@takethisoutmtneer.net> wrote in message
news:VzMrh.8$4J5.0@newsfe05.lga...
"Agnostico" <Agnostico@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98BC5BBD7381FChubbychaser@216.151.153.13...
say to yourself... "Hey, if I just concentrate
on being a good person, instead of a fucking know it all, my ***** is
covered."
Covered against what exactly?
I know what he's saying, the only way I know how to explain it is, Life is
Good today!! ;o)
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| User: "SaltineDawg" |
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18 Jan 2007 07:34:19 PM |
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In article <VzMrh.8$4J5.0@newsfe05.lga>, Craig S.
<cspurlocktakethisout@takethisoutmtneer.net> wrote:
"Agnostico" <Agnostico@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98BC5BBD7381FChubbychaser@216.151.153.13...
say to yourself... "Hey, if I just concentrate
on being a good person, instead of a fucking know it all, my ***** is
covered."
Covered against what exactly?
you show up once a month with your wannabe author,
wordsmith skills, and pontificate your brand of *****, and expect the
peanut gallery to take it all in, eh Reverand Swaggart ?
It hasn't always been that way. Virt has been quite prolific for extended
periods before.
Yeah, but after completely decimating and anhialating the likes of him,
ya' gots to give it just a bit of time before the vermin can begin to
spread agin.
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| User: "Virtualoso" |
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18 Jan 2007 07:34:17 PM |
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In article <Xns98BC5BBD7381FChubbychaser@216.151.153.13>, Agnostico
<Agnostico@yahoo.com> wrote:
Virtualoso <uhuh@no.com> wrote in news:170120071710375743%uhuh@no.com:
I realize that you probably insist upon ONLY some concept of "a god"
that's silly and unbelievable as being the ONLY possible concept that
anyone else must -- and could only -- be referring to, as well.
No, you're wrong Champ. What's good for me, isn't always good for you.
You can believe as you wish. It's you believers who get their nips in a
twist, when somebody doesn't believe as you think they should. How
arrogant.
What do you Believe... er, that is... suppose.... that I Believe...
that you don't also Believe?
Feel free to listen to .....
Who? Maybe you?
This is the classic Atheist Troll Insulter gambit, yes.
Pot, kettle, black, you show up once a month with your wannabe author,
wordsmith skills, and pontificate your brand of *****, and expect the
peanut gallery to take it all in, eh Reverand Swaggart ?
Once a month? Who are you talkin' about.... other than these Phantasies
of your own?
Well, hey, go to town shooting at your own noggin concepts, then.
You couldn't limp into town Champ. You've been shooting yourself in the
foot for years.
{yawn} "Go away, kid, ya' *bother* me." - W.C. Fields
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| User: "Agnostico" |
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19 Jan 2007 10:42:38 AM |
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Virtualoso <uhuh@no.com> wrote in news:180120071734178029%uhuh@no.com:
What do you Believe... er, that is... suppose.... that I Believe...
that you don't also Believe?
Got to hand it to you. That's vintage Virt. When at a loss for words,
engage in double talk.
Once a month? Who are you talkin' about.... other than these
Phantasies of your own?
I'm talking about you professor. Nothing made up, just facts.
{yawn} "Go away, kid, ya' *bother* me." - W.C. Fields
How dare you take a quote from a great entertainer, and throw it in with
your debate club tripe. Aren't you late for a square dance lesson ? Better
get moving.
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| User: "Virtualoso" |
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20 Jan 2007 02:07:54 AM |
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In article <Xns98BD76FDCA0A2Chubbychaser@216.151.153.21>, Agnostico
<Agnostico@yahoo.com> wrote:
Virtualoso <uhuh@no.com> wrote in news:180120071734178029%uhuh@no.com:
What do you Believe... er, that is... suppose.... that I Believe...
that you don't also Believe?
Got to hand it to you. That's vintage Virt. When at a loss for words,
engage in double talk.
Why bother going to even just this much trouble to simply avoid the
question?
Once a month? Who are you talkin' about.... other than these
Phantasies of your own?
I'm talking about you professor. Nothing made up, just facts.
I realize you may be in the habit of just making up so-called "facts",
but you're demonstrating that you haven't even really been keeping
track of them, anyway.
Tsk, tsk.
{yawn} "Go away, kid, ya' *bother* me." - W.C. Fields
How dare you take a quote from a great entertainer, and throw it in with
your debate club tripe. Aren't you late for a square dance lesson ? Better
get moving.
LOL. "How dare" I? "Square dance"? What... you're a middle aged
spinster librarian in Kansas?
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20 Jan 2007 06:38:41 AM |
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Virtualoso <uhuh@no.com> wrote in news:200120070007541896%uhuh@no.com:
I realize you may be in the habit of just making up so-called "facts",
but you're demonstrating that you haven't even really been keeping
track of them, anyway.
Tsk, tsk.
Sorry Donut Boy, the posts speak for themselves. You're gone for a month,
then make a Sinatra like entrance, thinking you have everyone's
adulation. Think again pal.
Tsk, tsk ? that's what fat, old lady schoolteachers used to say. Try
something else. Though some of your troop of boy scouts may fall for that
stuff.
LOL. "How dare" I?
That's right pal, it's like driving a Bently while wearing overalls. They
don't mix.
"Square dance"? What... you're a middle aged
spinster librarian in Kansas?
Wrong again Chubby, I'm a middle age guy like you, without the illusions
of grandeur that you have.
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| User: "Virtualoso" |
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20 Jan 2007 07:05:49 PM |
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In article <Xns98BE4DB0F1A72Chubbychaser@216.151.153.14>, Agnostico
<Agnostico@yahoo.com> wrote:
Virtualoso <uhuh@no.com> wrote in news:200120070007541896%uhuh@no.com:
I realize you may be in the habit of just making up so-called "facts",
but you're demonstrating that you haven't even really been keeping
track of them, anyway.
Tsk, tsk.
Sorry Donut Boy, the posts speak for themselves. You're gone for a month,
then make a Sinatra like entrance, thinking you have everyone's
adulation. Think again pal.
LOL. Obviously, I have... someone's attention, right here and now.
I'll leave concerns about everyone to you.
Tsk, tsk ? that's what fat, old lady schoolteachers used to say. Try
something else. Though some of your troop of boy scouts may fall for that
stuff.
Gosh, you're even meanspirited about old schoolteachers? Maybe that's
where and when you problems started.... way back then.
LOL. "How dare" I?
That's right pal, it's like driving a Bently while wearing overalls. They
don't mix.
I'm sure you know a lot more about where you don't fit in in your
overalls than I would.
Wrong again Chubby, I'm a middle age guy like you, without the illusions
of grandeur that you have.
Clearly your delusions exceed any illusions I might have by a long
shot, yes.
Now what? Since you've only been able to head straight down your
artless, piddly ad hom trail, rather than anything else. Is that all?
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| User: "Agnostico" |
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| Title: Re: A Practical Man's Proof of God |
20 Jan 2007 10:33:26 PM |
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Virtualoso <uhuh@no.com> wrote in news:200120071705494511%uhuh@no.com:
LOL. Obviously, I have... someone's attention, right here and now.
Don't flatter yourself. It's rather like the attention one gets after
pounding out a large fart.
Gosh, you're even meanspirited about old schoolteachers? Maybe that's
where and when you problems started.... way back then.
Meanspirited ? not hardly, in fact it's quite amusing that you sound like
one... Do you smell of mothballs, and stuff a hankie down your bra also ?
I'm sure you know a lot more about where you don't fit in in your
overalls than I would.
Finally, you're getting the drift. About time you became tired of feeling
like the whole world is a tuxedo, and you're a pair of brown shoes.
Clearly your delusions exceed any illusions I might have by a long
shot, yes.
You've got me there. I've had to be delusional to feel you were a master
of anything but buffoonery.
Now what? Since you've only been able to head straight down your
artless, piddly ad hom trail, rather than anything else. Is that all?
As opposed to your ARTFUL meandering about, and hitting nothing but your
scrotum with your constant misfires ? Talk about delusional.
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| User: "Virtualoso" |
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| Title: Re: A Practical Man's Proof of God |
21 Jan 2007 01:25:49 AM |
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In article <Xns98BEEF7FCAD4Chubbychaser@216.151.153.21>, Agnostico
<Agnostico@yahoo.com> wrote:
Virtualoso <uhuh@no.com> wrote in news:200120071705494511%uhuh@no.com:
LOL. Obviously, I have... someone's attention, right here and now.
Don't flatter yourself. It's rather like the attention one gets after
pounding out a large fart.
Oh, another favorite of yours?
I'm sure you know a lot more about where you don't fit in in your
overalls than I would.
Finally, you're getting the drift. About time you became tired of feeling
like the whole world is a tuxedo, and you're a pair of brown shoes.
Wow. A fart sniffing outfit fetishist with some sort of SM thing for
old school marms. You're quite a guy!
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| User: "S. LaRocca" |
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| Title: Re: A Practical Man's Proof of God |
21 Jan 2007 07:22:55 AM |
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Virtualoso <uhuh@no.com> wrote in news:200120072325497392%uhuh@no.com:
Oh, another favorite of yours?
Not hardly, sometimes it's unavoidable. Like startling a skunk. or finding
out the woman you've been chatting up is... well, rather yeasty. Speaking
of which, do you get past the smell, or pick out another one, and bore her
to tears ?
Wow. A fart sniffing outfit fetishist with some sort of SM thing for
old school marms. You're quite a guy!
That's quite a leap on the part of your overworked imagination, but seems
quite normal when comparing it to your usual Sat. night antics of blow up
dolls, and slappin' the clown to .jpg's, and .avi's over at
alt.binaries.hairynips
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| User: "Virtualoso" |
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| Title: Re: A Practical Man's Proof of God |
21 Jan 2007 06:21:11 PM |
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In article <Xns98BF5517D32Ageechelyahoocom@216.151.153.41>, S. LaRocca
<geechel@yahoo.com> wrote:
Virtualoso <uhuh@no.com> wrote in news:200120072325497392%uhuh@no.com:
Oh, another favorite of yours?
Not hardly, sometimes it's unavoidable. Like startling a skunk. or finding
out the woman you've been chatting up is... well, rather yeasty. Speaking
of which, do you get past the smell, or pick out another one, and bore her
to tears ?
Wow. A fart sniffing outfit fetishist with some sort of SM thing for
old school marms. You're quite a guy!
That's quite a leap on the part of your overworked imagination, but seems
quite normal when comparing it to your usual Sat. night antics of blow up
dolls, and slappin' the clown to .jpg's, and .avi's over at
alt.binaries.hairynips
Another posting ID of yours here?
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| User: "S. LaRocca" |
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| Title: Re: A Practical Man's Proof of God |
22 Jan 2007 07:08:17 AM |
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Virtualoso <uhuh@no.com> wrote in news:210120071621112115%uhuh@no.com:
Another posting ID of yours here?
That's right Virt. I could not live the lie any longer. Agnostico ?, well,
that's as disingenuous as.... well, ah....Virtualoso... I mean, your
telephone bill isn't addressed to Mr. Virtualoso is it ?
Join me in standing tall, and not hiding behind false identities. If your
name is Buford Skeenk, or Moe Engelmann, embrace it, and throw away the
false identity.
In any event, It's nice to see you back.
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| User: "Virtualoso" |
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| Title: Re: A Practical Man's Proof of God |
23 Jan 2007 02:40:00 AM |
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In article <Xns98C0529DAEEB6geechelyahoocom@216.151.153.21>, S. LaRocca
<geechel@yahoo.com> wrote:
Virtualoso <uhuh@no.com> wrote in news:210120071621112115%uhuh@no.com:
Another posting ID of yours here?
That's right Virt. I could not live the lie any longer. Agnostico ?, well,
that's as disingenuous as.... well, ah....Virtualoso... I mean, your
telephone bill isn't addressed to Mr. Virtualoso is it ?
Join me in standing tall, and not hiding behind false identities. If your
name is Buford Skeenk, or Moe Engelmann, embrace it, and throw away the
false identity.
So you goofed, huh? ;-)
In any event, It's nice to see you back.
Hey, likewise!
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