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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Michelle Malkin"
Date: 04 Mar 2007 05:43:47 PM
Object: A Present For Fred Stone
Choke on it, Fred.
Chilling out Gore
Exposé that the "Inconvenient Truth" man has an inconvenient lifestyle?
Well not quite
© Bryan Zepp Jamieson
3/3/07
http://www.mytown.ca/zepp
Hours after Gore received his Academy Award for the documentary, "An
Inconvenient Truth," the ambush attack was launched. Kristin Hall,
uncritical newshen for the AP, breathlessly reported that "A
conservative group" calling itself the "Tennessee Center for Policy
Research" reported that Gore's home energy use was ten times that of a
"typical Nashville household." The story goes on to claim that Gore used
221,000 kilowatt hours in 2006, and that the group knew this because
they obtained his energy use documents from the utility, Nashville
Electric Service. You have to go near the bottom to find it, but the
story states, "But company spokeswoman Laurie Parker said the utility never
got a request from the policy center and never gave it any information."
AP claimed to have reviewed the bills and came up with an energy use
figure some 15% lower, but it's evident that unlike the "Center," AP
remembered to factor in the surcharge that the utility charges for
energy use above about a thousand kilowatts a month.
It's pretty unlikely that the "Tennessee Center for Policy Research" was
interested in any niceties like finding out how much energy Gore
actually used, or where the energy came from, or-and this was the main
thing they were clucking indignantly about-if he had a large carbon
footprint or not.
The "Center" appears to be one of those
"two-right-wing-assholes-with-a-website" kind of things that the
well-funded far right likes to use to pepper the public discourse with
falsely authoritative sources. According to an unnamed Usenet source,
"Tennessee Center for Policy Research is run by a 27 year old Bush
Cheerleader who loves Bush's Wars, Jason Drew Johnson. The Center lists
a post office box number as its address which makes sense since
occupancy costs were $450 for the year. The IRS requires 501(c)(3)s to
disclose the names of board members and officers which the Center fails
to do. The 990 is signed by Jason A. Johnson who presumably is related
to Drew Johnson, listed as the Center's president on the website. Total
salary expense for 2005 is $52,213. Despite a tight budget, the Center's
managed to spend $8,155 on meals and travel. Marketing expense is $5,934
but no money was spent on research." Including, apparently, looking up
utility bills, which are public records. The site itself is devoted to
debunking global warming, and offering "free market solutions,"
presumably to free market problems. I looked over the list of "scholars"
they had, presumably in the hope people would think they had something
to do with the site, and none of them were in the fields of climatology
or energy use.
So the whole news story came from a false-front "think tank" that
couldn't even be bothered with getting its information first-hand, or
capable of giving it a fair review if they had.
Every day, the AP dismisses such "news flashes" from nobody crackpots as
a waste of their time. But this one was about Gore, and would sell
newspapers. So they went with it.
Gore's home energy use (which has grown to TWENTY TIMES the average
household in the right wing echo chamber of Faux News, Drudge and Free
Republic) somehow escaped the keen scrutiny of the media. If they had
bothered checking, as I did, they would have learned a few things that
demonstrate that not only is Gore's energy use reasonable for his needs,
but that his carbon footprint-that thing the right wingers are
supposedly upset about-is very much less.
First, there's his "household". It consists of four structures, not one,
and has a cumulative square footage that is 15 times that of a regular
single family home. (The average Nashville household has a pretty good
chance of living in an apartment, which is smaller and more energy
efficient than a stand-alone house, too). One of those structures is for
Gore's secret service detail, who are on duty 24 hours a day. Another is
for his non-profit foundation. Most average households don't have the
energy demands of the secret service or a foundation to deal with.
Despite all this, Gore spent less per square foot on his "household"
than the average Nashvillian did.
But it doesn't stop there. A lot of Gore's energy bill went toward
premium pricing on green energy sources or offsets. A premium that
worked out to 4 times the rate per kilowatt the utility normally
charged. According to Gore's office, this accounted for roughly half his
energy usage. So, in fact, his actual energy consumption in terms of CO2
releases may have been three times that of the average household in
Nashville, despite the fact that it was four buildings with fifteen
times the area.
There were a couple of other factors. First, there was the fact that
Gore bought a large, wasteful spread and had been making it more and
more energy efficient as construction began the year before to remodel
the place into a more energy efficient place. Gore intends for it to be
a model to show what can be done with existing structures. Even as the
"high electric bill" ambush attack was launched, Gore was having solar
panels installed.
A lot of right wingers were demanding that Gore move into a small house.
A generous size might be 1,000 square feet, in their estimation. But
they quickly dried up and blew away when I asked if they wanted to make
it a government policy that everyone must live in a small house.
Apparently it's the old Republican situation in which they like to
demand that others live up to rules that they themselves have no
intention of observing. Energy conservation, like morals, like taxes and
jail time, are for the little people - and traitors to their class.
Speaking of which the Wall Street Journal online weighed in on all this.
They spent some time sputtering about the inequity of "energy offsets,"
oblivious to the fact that they insisted on such offsets as a compromise
in order to cut back on their own waste and pollution. They had more
money than will to conserve, and didn't mind paying to sustain their
lifestyle. But now the Wall Street Journal decided the best way to
discredit Gore way was by waging class warfare against the rich. For
those who want a good laugh, the article is here:
http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB117271689203622916-lMyQjAxMDE3NzAyMTcwMTE2Wj.html
The rich white trash were appalled at the fact that Gore spent $500 a
month to heat his pool. Nobody is quite sure where the rich white trash
got this particular "fact." Maybe, living up in New York and Connecticut
and Rhode Island, they asked one another, "Well, how much do you spend
to heat YOUR pool?" and came up with a consensus answer.
There's just one problem. Gore doesn't live in Connecticut or Rhode
Island. He lives in Tennessee. And, as with most of the American south,
his energy bills are modest in the winter - often as low was $300 a
month - and soar during the summer. Not surprising, since the south
enjoys mild winters and is unfit for human life the rest of the year. It
costs a lot more to stay cool in the summer than it does to get warm in
the winter. And nobody spends $500 a month to warm a pool in Tennessee.
Nobody. Not even Al Gore. The whole story was nothing more than another
right wing lie by the Wall Street Journal editorial board.
So, once again, the right wing tries to get its way with lies and smears.
But this isn't 1998. People KNOW they are liars and smear artists these
days, and there are a lot of us prepared to show their lies and smears
for what they are.
And, like the "Kerry-hates-soldiers" smear last fall, or the
"Pelosi-and-the757" a few weeks ago, this smear blew up in the right
wing's lying faces.
In the meantime, they have to ignore the fact that their hero, Ann
Coulter, just called John Edwards a "*****" and pretend they hardly
even know who Coulter is.
The morality of the right is a rare and amazing creature, isn't it?
--
"Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking
about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has
changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're
talking about getting a court order before we do so"
-George W. Bush, April 20, 2004
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: A Present For Fred Stone 06 Mar 2007 12:50:22 AM
In article <rfmdnTuQQeMtxHbYnZ2dnUVZ_vamnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

Choke on it, Fred.

Chilling out Gore
Exposé that the "Inconvenient Truth" man has an inconvenient lifestyle?
Well not quite

© Bryan Zepp Jamieson
3/3/07
http://www.mytown.ca/zepp


So the whole news story came from a false-front "think tank" that
couldn't even be bothered with getting its information first-hand, or
capable of giving it a fair review if they had.

Why do they call them 'think tanks' when they don't?


The morality of the right is a rare and amazing creature, isn't it?

So rare that in recent years no one's seen it.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: A Present For Fred Stone 06 Mar 2007 09:01:21 AM
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in news:jhachmann-
6969C5.22502205032007@news.giganews.com:

In article <rfmdnTuQQeMtxHbYnZ2dnUVZ_vamnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

Choke on it, Fred.

Chilling out Gore
Exposé that the "Inconvenient Truth" man has an inconvenient

lifestyle?

Well not quite

© Bryan Zepp Jamieson
3/3/07
http://www.mytown.ca/zepp



So the whole news story came from a false-front "think tank" that
couldn't even be bothered with getting its information first-hand, or
capable of giving it a fair review if they had.


Why do they call them 'think tanks' when they don't?




The morality of the right is a rare and amazing creature, isn't it?


So rare that in recent years no one's seen it.

So Zeppie does yet another ad-hominem attack and thinks that he has
managed to refute Gore's electric bill?
The critical-thinking ability of the left is a truly rare thing, right
up there with unicorns and little dancing pixies in the garden.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: A Present For Fred Stone 06 Mar 2007 06:41:23 PM
In article <Xns98EB6684E69Afreddybear@194.177.96.26>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in news:jhachmann-
6969C5.22502205032007@news.giganews.com:

In article <rfmdnTuQQeMtxHbYnZ2dnUVZ_vamnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

Choke on it, Fred.

Chilling out Gore
Exposé that the "Inconvenient Truth" man has an inconvenient

lifestyle?

Well not quite

© Bryan Zepp Jamieson
3/3/07
http://www.mytown.ca/zepp



So the whole news story came from a false-front "think tank" that
couldn't even be bothered with getting its information first-hand, or
capable of giving it a fair review if they had.


Why do they call them 'think tanks' when they don't?




The morality of the right is a rare and amazing creature, isn't it?


So rare that in recent years no one's seen it.


So Zeppie does yet another ad-hominem attack and thinks that he has
managed to refute Gore's electric bill?

The critical-thinking ability of the left is a truly rare thing, right
up there with unicorns and little dancing pixies in the garden.

You guys are really getting desperate.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
User: "Uncle Clover"

Title: Re: A Present For Fred Stone 06 Mar 2007 06:48:04 PM
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 16:41:23 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:

In article <Xns98EB6684E69Afreddybear@194.177.96.26>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in news:jhachmann-
6969C5.22502205032007@news.giganews.com:

In article <rfmdnTuQQeMtxHbYnZ2dnUVZ_vamnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

Choke on it, Fred.

Chilling out Gore
Exposé that the "Inconvenient Truth" man has an inconvenient

lifestyle?

Well not quite

© Bryan Zepp Jamieson
3/3/07
http://www.mytown.ca/zepp



So the whole news story came from a false-front "think tank" that
couldn't even be bothered with getting its information first-hand, or
capable of giving it a fair review if they had.


Why do they call them 'think tanks' when they don't?




The morality of the right is a rare and amazing creature, isn't it?


So rare that in recent years no one's seen it.


So Zeppie does yet another ad-hominem attack and thinks that he has
managed to refute Gore's electric bill?

The critical-thinking ability of the left is a truly rare thing, right
up there with unicorns and little dancing pixies in the garden.


You guys are really getting desperate.

It's funny how the squeaky wheels never squeak more loudly than when they think
nobody's listening. I guess that's why they get the grease, only in this case,
it's lube - and boy, are they getting fucked. ;-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
__________________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Every birth carries within
it the seed of its own
demise
__________________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Narrow minds
breed thick skulls.
__________________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Darkness is just light
that's traveling...
in a different direction...
than where you're looking.
__________________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Blog: "Family - The Binds That Tie"
http://bindsthattie.blogspot.com/
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: A Present For Fred Stone 07 Mar 2007 08:13:29 AM
Uncle Clover <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in
news:2s2su21r2b2v9gl3l33g5jm5a0ancvkgrb@4ax.com:

On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 16:41:23 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:

In article <Xns98EB6684E69Afreddybear@194.177.96.26>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in news:jhachmann-
6969C5.22502205032007@news.giganews.com:

In article <rfmdnTuQQeMtxHbYnZ2dnUVZ_vamnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

Choke on it, Fred.

Chilling out Gore
Exposé that the "Inconvenient Truth" man has an inconvenient

lifestyle?

Well not quite

© Bryan Zepp Jamieson
3/3/07
http://www.mytown.ca/zepp



So the whole news story came from a false-front "think tank"
that couldn't even be bothered with getting its information
first-hand, or capable of giving it a fair review if they had.


Why do they call them 'think tanks' when they don't?




The morality of the right is a rare and amazing creature, isn't
it?


So rare that in recent years no one's seen it.


So Zeppie does yet another ad-hominem attack and thinks that he has
managed to refute Gore's electric bill?

The critical-thinking ability of the left is a truly rare thing,
right up there with unicorns and little dancing pixies in the
garden.


You guys are really getting desperate.


It's funny how the squeaky wheels never squeak more loudly than when
they think nobody's listening. I guess that's why they get the
grease, only in this case, it's lube - and boy, are they getting
fucked. ;-) --

Yeah man, you libruls sure do squeak loud when somebody points out that
your idols have feet of clay.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
.


User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: A Present For Fred Stone 06 Mar 2007 07:07:16 PM
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in
news:jhachmann-AFEA0B.16412306032007@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns98EB6684E69Afreddybear@194.177.96.26>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in news:jhachmann-
6969C5.22502205032007@news.giganews.com:

In article <rfmdnTuQQeMtxHbYnZ2dnUVZ_vamnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

Choke on it, Fred.

Chilling out Gore
Exposé that the "Inconvenient Truth" man has an inconvenient

lifestyle?

Well not quite

© Bryan Zepp Jamieson
3/3/07
http://www.mytown.ca/zepp



So the whole news story came from a false-front "think tank" that
couldn't even be bothered with getting its information first-hand,
or capable of giving it a fair review if they had.


Why do they call them 'think tanks' when they don't?




The morality of the right is a rare and amazing creature, isn't
it?


So rare that in recent years no one's seen it.


So Zeppie does yet another ad-hominem attack and thinks that he has
managed to refute Gore's electric bill?

The critical-thinking ability of the left is a truly rare thing,
right up there with unicorns and little dancing pixies in the garden.


You guys are really getting desperate.

Come on, johac, what happened to the logic and reasoning ability that
you show in your posts to fundies? You know how to tell an ad-hominem
argument when you see it. Why do you suddenly go blind when the argument
is about leftie politics?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The Bush critics' position is that we must believe without reservation
or criticism any intelligence that can be used to argue against military
action and that we should never believe any intelligence, however
plausible, that can be used to argue for it. That's not very
intelligent." - Michael Barone
.




User: "Kate "

Title: Re: A Present For Fred Stone 04 Mar 2007 06:52:05 PM
On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:43:47 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

Choke on it, Fred.

Chilling out Gore
Exposé that the "Inconvenient Truth" man has an inconvenient lifestyle?
Well not quite

© Bryan Zepp Jamieson
3/3/07
http://www.mytown.ca/zepp

Hours after Gore received his Academy Award for the documentary, "An
Inconvenient Truth," the ambush attack was launched. Kristin Hall,
uncritical newshen for the AP, breathlessly reported that "A
conservative group" calling itself the "Tennessee Center for Policy
Research" reported that Gore's home energy use was ten times that of a
"typical Nashville household." The story goes on to claim that Gore used
221,000 kilowatt hours in 2006, and that the group knew this because
they obtained his energy use documents from the utility, Nashville
Electric Service. You have to go near the bottom to find it, but the
story states, "But company spokeswoman Laurie Parker said the utility never
got a request from the policy center and never gave it any information."
AP claimed to have reviewed the bills and came up with an energy use
figure some 15% lower, but it's evident that unlike the "Center," AP
remembered to factor in the surcharge that the utility charges for
energy use above about a thousand kilowatts a month.

It's pretty unlikely that the "Tennessee Center for Policy Research" was
interested in any niceties like finding out how much energy Gore
actually used, or where the energy came from, or-and this was the main
thing they were clucking indignantly about-if he had a large carbon
footprint or not.

The "Center" appears to be one of those
"two-right-wing-assholes-with-a-website" kind of things that the
well-funded far right likes to use to pepper the public discourse with
falsely authoritative sources. According to an unnamed Usenet source,
"Tennessee Center for Policy Research is run by a 27 year old Bush
Cheerleader who loves Bush's Wars, Jason Drew Johnson. The Center lists
a post office box number as its address which makes sense since
occupancy costs were $450 for the year. The IRS requires 501(c)(3)s to
disclose the names of board members and officers which the Center fails
to do. The 990 is signed by Jason A. Johnson who presumably is related
to Drew Johnson, listed as the Center's president on the website. Total
salary expense for 2005 is $52,213. Despite a tight budget, the Center's
managed to spend $8,155 on meals and travel. Marketing expense is $5,934
but no money was spent on research." Including, apparently, looking up
utility bills, which are public records. The site itself is devoted to
debunking global warming, and offering "free market solutions,"
presumably to free market problems. I looked over the list of "scholars"
they had, presumably in the hope people would think they had something
to do with the site, and none of them were in the fields of climatology
or energy use.

So the whole news story came from a false-front "think tank" that
couldn't even be bothered with getting its information first-hand, or
capable of giving it a fair review if they had.

Every day, the AP dismisses such "news flashes" from nobody crackpots as
a waste of their time. But this one was about Gore, and would sell
newspapers. So they went with it.

Gore's home energy use (which has grown to TWENTY TIMES the average
household in the right wing echo chamber of Faux News, Drudge and Free
Republic) somehow escaped the keen scrutiny of the media. If they had
bothered checking, as I did, they would have learned a few things that
demonstrate that not only is Gore's energy use reasonable for his needs,
but that his carbon footprint-that thing the right wingers are
supposedly upset about-is very much less.

First, there's his "household". It consists of four structures, not one,
and has a cumulative square footage that is 15 times that of a regular
single family home. (The average Nashville household has a pretty good
chance of living in an apartment, which is smaller and more energy
efficient than a stand-alone house, too). One of those structures is for
Gore's secret service detail, who are on duty 24 hours a day. Another is
for his non-profit foundation. Most average households don't have the
energy demands of the secret service or a foundation to deal with.

Despite all this, Gore spent less per square foot on his "household"
than the average Nashvillian did.

But it doesn't stop there. A lot of Gore's energy bill went toward
premium pricing on green energy sources or offsets. A premium that
worked out to 4 times the rate per kilowatt the utility normally
charged. According to Gore's office, this accounted for roughly half his
energy usage. So, in fact, his actual energy consumption in terms of CO2
releases may have been three times that of the average household in
Nashville, despite the fact that it was four buildings with fifteen
times the area.

There were a couple of other factors. First, there was the fact that
Gore bought a large, wasteful spread and had been making it more and
more energy efficient as construction began the year before to remodel
the place into a more energy efficient place. Gore intends for it to be
a model to show what can be done with existing structures. Even as the
"high electric bill" ambush attack was launched, Gore was having solar
panels installed.

A lot of right wingers were demanding that Gore move into a small house.
A generous size might be 1,000 square feet, in their estimation. But
they quickly dried up and blew away when I asked if they wanted to make
it a government policy that everyone must live in a small house.
Apparently it's the old Republican situation in which they like to
demand that others live up to rules that they themselves have no
intention of observing. Energy conservation, like morals, like taxes and
jail time, are for the little people - and traitors to their class.

Speaking of which the Wall Street Journal online weighed in on all this.
They spent some time sputtering about the inequity of "energy offsets,"
oblivious to the fact that they insisted on such offsets as a compromise
in order to cut back on their own waste and pollution. They had more
money than will to conserve, and didn't mind paying to sustain their
lifestyle. But now the Wall Street Journal decided the best way to
discredit Gore way was by waging class warfare against the rich. For
those who want a good laugh, the article is here:
http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB117271689203622916-lMyQjAxMDE3NzAyMTcwMTE2Wj.html


The rich white trash were appalled at the fact that Gore spent $500 a
month to heat his pool. Nobody is quite sure where the rich white trash
got this particular "fact." Maybe, living up in New York and Connecticut
and Rhode Island, they asked one another, "Well, how much do you spend
to heat YOUR pool?" and came up with a consensus answer.

There's just one problem. Gore doesn't live in Connecticut or Rhode
Island. He lives in Tennessee. And, as with most of the American south,
his energy bills are modest in the winter - often as low was $300 a
month - and soar during the summer. Not surprising, since the south
enjoys mild winters and is unfit for human life the rest of the year. It
costs a lot more to stay cool in the summer than it does to get warm in
the winter. And nobody spends $500 a month to warm a pool in Tennessee.
Nobody. Not even Al Gore. The whole story was nothing more than another
right wing lie by the Wall Street Journal editorial board.

So, once again, the right wing tries to get its way with lies and smears.

But this isn't 1998. People KNOW they are liars and smear artists these
days, and there are a lot of us prepared to show their lies and smears
for what they are.

And, like the "Kerry-hates-soldiers" smear last fall, or the
"Pelosi-and-the757" a few weeks ago, this smear blew up in the right
wing's lying faces.

In the meantime, they have to ignore the fact that their hero, Ann
Coulter, just called John Edwards a "*****" and pretend they hardly
even know who Coulter is.

The morality of the right is a rare and amazing creature, isn't it?

If there's a smear to be found, Fred is right there on top of it.
It's like having our own personal Drudge, complete lack of truth and
journalistic ethics, pompous puffery and excited aerobic dancing to
keep everyone's attention from their own sins and those of their
party.
.

User: "Uncle Clover"

Title: Re: A Present For Fred Stone 04 Mar 2007 06:23:17 PM
Somehow, I was expecting to open up this message and have a pile of digital poo
fall out onto my desk top.
Damn, but it will be cool when we can do that. ;-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
__________________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Every birth carries within
it the seed of its own
demise
__________________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Narrow minds
breed thick skulls.
__________________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Darkness is just light
that's traveling...
in a different direction...
than where you're looking.
__________________________
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Blog: "Family - The Binds That Tie"
http://bindsthattie.blogspot.com/
.
User: "IAAH"

Title: Re: A Present For Fred Stone 04 Mar 2007 06:54:02 PM
Uncle Clover wrote:

Somehow, I was expecting to open up this message and have a pile of digital poo
fall out onto my desk top.

Damn, but it will be cool when we can do that. ;-)

Whoever invents the machine giving the ability to slap
over TCP/IP will be rich, rich, rich.
.
User: "chibiabos"

Title: Re: A Present For Fred Stone 06 Mar 2007 10:59:34 AM
In article <45eb695b$0$13177$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com>, IAAH
<iaah@dodgeit.com> wrote:

Uncle Clover wrote:

Somehow, I was expecting to open up this message and have a pile of digital
poo
fall out onto my desk top.

Damn, but it will be cool when we can do that. ;-)


Whoever invents the machine giving the ability to slap
over TCP/IP will be rich, rich, rich.

Not as rich as the guy who invents smell-0-vision for pr0n.
-chib
--
Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middle-Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
.




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