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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Rock Brentwood"
Date: 07 Dec 2005 04:57:45 PM
Object: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth
From:
(Ken Arromdee)

The physical events can very well take place as desribed, namely with "fire
and brimstone" being a literal ancient description of a meteor shower that
happened to be large enough to reach the ground and devastate an entire region.

Meteor showers don't do this [meaning: don't ever strike the ground, since
this is what the reply is in response to]

Well, let us know how your next job application at the French Academy
of the Sciences works out then. It may be a couple hundred years late,
but you may find fellow perennial dourpusses there who still feel that
there's no such thing as rocks striking the ground from outer space.
.

User: "Ike"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 07 Dec 2005 08:01:21 PM
"Rock Brentwood" <markwh04@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1133996265.784260.290050@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

From:

(Ken Arromdee)

So that's why my electric meter stays above the ground. They never put them
underground! Inconvenient to read that way.
.

User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 07 Dec 2005 06:42:07 PM
Of course "meters" impact the earth.
If you drop a gas meter, or water meter, it often impacts the earth.
.
User: "Nightshade"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 08 Dec 2005 02:21:25 AM
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:12:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

Of course "meters" impact the earth.
If you drop a gas meter, or water meter, it often impacts the earth.

They often impact toes, as well.
.
User: "thomas p"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 08 Dec 2005 10:47:33 AM
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 08:21:25 GMT, Nightshade
<nightshade@thedeepwoods.web> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:12:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

Of course "meters" impact the earth.
If you drop a gas meter, or water meter, it often impacts the earth.


They often impact toes, as well.

It is probably a bigger problem here in Europe. Now I know where all
those meters came from.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)

.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 08 Dec 2005 06:06:24 PM
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:47:33 +0100, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 08:21:25 GMT, Nightshade
<nightshade@thedeepwoods.web> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:12:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

Of course "meters" impact the earth.
If you drop a gas meter, or water meter, it often impacts the earth.


They often impact toes, as well.


It is probably a bigger problem here in Europe. Now I know where all
those meters came from.

Ah, yes! Metric meters are bigger than imperial meters.
But shouldn't they be spelled "metres", then?
.
User: "thomas p"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 09 Dec 2005 01:44:57 AM
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 10:36:24 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:47:33 +0100, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 08:21:25 GMT, Nightshade
<nightshade@thedeepwoods.web> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:12:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

Of course "meters" impact the earth.
If you drop a gas meter, or water meter, it often impacts the earth.


They often impact toes, as well.


It is probably a bigger problem here in Europe. Now I know where all
those meters came from.


Ah, yes! Metric meters are bigger than imperial meters.
But shouldn't they be spelled "metres", then?

That would depend on where you come from. In my language it is
spelled "meters" just like in the USA. In the UK I believe it is
"metres".
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)

.


User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 08 Dec 2005 11:35:09 AM
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:47:33 +0100, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 08:21:25 GMT, Nightshade
<nightshade@thedeepwoods.web> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:12:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

Of course "meters" impact the earth.
If you drop a gas meter, or water meter, it often impacts the earth.


They often impact toes, as well.


It is probably a bigger problem here in Europe. Now I know where all
those meters came from.

Because they use killer meters
.
User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 08 Dec 2005 11:55:17 AM
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:35:09 -0500 in alt.atheism, Christopher A. Lee
(Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:47:33 +0100, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 08:21:25 GMT, Nightshade
<nightshade@thedeepwoods.web> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:12:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

Of course "meters" impact the earth.
If you drop a gas meter, or water meter, it often impacts the earth.


They often impact toes, as well.


It is probably a bigger problem here in Europe. Now I know where all
those meters came from.


Because they use killer meters

A meter is quite heavy, around 1.495e15 tonnes, I think!
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. www.video2cd.co.uk. Your 8mm films on DVD.
.

User: "thomas p"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 09 Dec 2005 12:29:06 AM
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:35:09 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:47:33 +0100, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 08:21:25 GMT, Nightshade
<nightshade@thedeepwoods.web> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:12:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

Of course "meters" impact the earth.
If you drop a gas meter, or water meter, it often impacts the earth.


They often impact toes, as well.


It is probably a bigger problem here in Europe. Now I know where all
those meters came from.


Because they use killer meters

Yes, there is even a fatal disease; diametrics I think it is called.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)

.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 09 Dec 2005 04:04:59 AM
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 07:29:06 +0100, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:35:09 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:47:33 +0100, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 08:21:25 GMT, Nightshade
<nightshade@thedeepwoods.web> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:12:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

Of course "meters" impact the earth.
If you drop a gas meter, or water meter, it often impacts the earth.


They often impact toes, as well.


It is probably a bigger problem here in Europe. Now I know where all
those meters came from.


Because they use killer meters


Yes, there is even a fatal disease; diametrics I think it is called.

Dianetics is both on-topic, and a fatal disease of the mind.
As are their stupid e-meters.
Perhaps the Thetans are dropping them on some loam?
.

User: "Lörd Phÿltêr"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 09 Dec 2005 07:32:23 AM
thomas p <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> astounded us with:
news:9sahp1168s0457lte9f939apifv1m739ck@4ax.com:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:35:09 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:47:33 +0100, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 08:21:25 GMT, Nightshade
<nightshade@thedeepwoods.web> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:12:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

Of course "meters" impact the earth.
If you drop a gas meter, or water meter, it often impacts the earth.


They often impact toes, as well.


It is probably a bigger problem here in Europe. Now I know where all
those meters came from.


Because they use killer meters


Yes, there is even a fatal disease; diametrics I think it is called.

You're thinking of "Dianetics"...
--
Lörd Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
Remove "s" to respond
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
.
User: "thomas p"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 09 Dec 2005 08:43:04 AM
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 13:32:23 GMT, "Lörd Phÿltêr"
<phylter@hsotmail.com> wrote:

thomas p <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> astounded us with:
news:9sahp1168s0457lte9f939apifv1m739ck@4ax.com:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:35:09 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:47:33 +0100, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 08:21:25 GMT, Nightshade
<nightshade@thedeepwoods.web> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:12:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

Of course "meters" impact the earth.
If you drop a gas meter, or water meter, it often impacts the earth.


They often impact toes, as well.


It is probably a bigger problem here in Europe. Now I know where all
those meters came from.


Because they use killer meters


Yes, there is even a fatal disease; diametrics I think it is called.


You're thinking of "Dianetics"...

Wow! How do you do that?
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)

.






User: "Les Hellawell"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 08 Dec 2005 04:40:31 AM
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:12:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

Of course "meters" impact the earth.
If you drop a gas meter, or water meter, it often impacts the earth.

Unless it is on your toe :-)
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 08 Dec 2005 05:52:03 AM
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 10:40:31 +0000, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:12:07 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:

Of course "meters" impact the earth.
If you drop a gas meter, or water meter, it often impacts the earth.


Unless it is on your toe :-)

That's the second time someone has mentioned my meter meeting with the
"Theory Of Everything".
I do believe that Einstein has something erudite to say on that
"matter".
If my memory serves me incorrectly, it was "Ouch=T.O.E.".
.


User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 07 Dec 2005 10:10:34 PM
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Gray
(fleetg@newsguy.spam.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

Of course "meters" impact the earth.
If you drop a gas meter, or water meter, it often impacts the earth.

Especially irony-o-meters.
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
----
sig under construction
.
User: "Ken Arromdee"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 07 Dec 2005 10:55:07 PM
I posted the article that started this thread on May 18, 1992. This makes
the reply almost 13 years 5 months after my original post. Is this a record?
--
Ken Arromdee / arromdee_AT_rahul.net / http://www.rahul.net/arromdee
"You know, you blow up one sun and suddenly everyone expects you to walk
on water." --Samantha Carter, Stargate SG-1
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 08 Dec 2005 01:55:38 AM
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 04:55:07 +0000 (UTC),
(Ken
Arromdee) wrote:

I posted the article that started this thread on May 18, 1992. This makes
the reply almost 13 years 5 months after my original post. Is this a record?

I don't know. Try playing it on a gramophone.
Or perhaps a pornograph.
.

User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 07 Dec 2005 11:30:22 PM
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 04:55:07 +0000 (UTC),
(Ken
Arromdee) wrote:

I posted the article that started this thread on May 18, 1992. This makes
the reply almost 13 years 5 months after my original post. Is this a record?

I've just seen a 12" black vinyl disk. Is this a record?
.
User: "Harry F. Leopold"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 08 Dec 2005 08:07:14 AM
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 23:30:22 -0600, Christopher A. Lee wrote
(in article <36hfp11hlohonf1asngitam4o2f39dsg13@4ax.com>):

On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 04:55:07 +0000 (UTC),

(Ken
Arromdee) wrote:

I posted the article that started this thread on May 18, 1992. This makes
the reply almost 13 years 5 months after my original post. Is this a
record?


I've just seen a 12" black vinyl disk. Is this a record?

If it has Peg o' my Heart on one side and Great Balls of Fire on the other,
it is a record. But it would be a bit larger than 12 inches. (My very first
78 rpm record, I could track down my brother and beat him about the head and
shoulders - again - for ruining it. Jerry Lee Lewis would understand.)
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
³4 out of 5 dentists recommend the Theory of Evolution.³-John S. Wilkins
.


User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 07 Dec 2005 10:58:07 PM
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Ken Arromdee
(arromdee@green.rahul.net) made the light shine upon us with this:

I posted the article that started this thread on May 18, 1992. This
makes the reply almost 13 years 5 months after my original post. Is
this a record?

There are probably posters here who were not born before this thread
started. <boggle>
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
----
sig under construction
.




User: "Les Hellawell"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 08 Dec 2005 04:39:40 AM
On 7 Dec 2005 14:57:45 -0800, "Rock Brentwood" <markwh04@yahoo.com>
wrote:

From:

(Ken Arromdee)

The physical events can very well take place as desribed, namely with "fire
and brimstone" being a literal ancient description of a meteor shower that
happened to be large enough to reach the ground and devastate an entire region.

Meteor showers don't do this [meaning: don't ever strike the ground, since
this is what the reply is in response to]


Well, let us know how your next job application at the French Academy
of the Sciences works out then. It may be a couple hundred years late,
but you may find fellow perennial dourpusses there who still feel that
there's no such thing as rocks striking the ground from outer space.

I strongly suggest you consult a dictionary to determine for yourself
the meaning of the word 'meteor'. At the same time look up 'meteorite'
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County.
.

User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 07 Dec 2005 08:00:11 PM
On 7 Dec 2005 14:57:45 -0800, in alt.atheism , "Rock Brentwood"
<markwh04@yahoo.com> in
<1133996265.784260.290050@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:

From:

(Ken Arromdee)

The physical events can very well take place as desribed, namely with "fire
and brimstone" being a literal ancient description of a meteor shower that
happened to be large enough to reach the ground and devastate an entire region.

Meteor showers don't do this [meaning: don't ever strike the ground, since
this is what the reply is in response to]


Well, let us know how your next job application at the French Academy
of the Sciences works out then. It may be a couple hundred years late,
but you may find fellow perennial dourpusses there who still feel that
there's no such thing as rocks striking the ground from outer space.

" would soon believe a Yankee professor would lie than stones would
fall from the heavens."
Thomas Jefferson.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
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http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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User: "Mike Ruskai"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 08 Dec 2005 01:00:50 AM
On or about 7 Dec 2005 14:57:45 -0800 did "Rock Brentwood"
<markwh04@yahoo.com> dribble thusly:

From:

(Ken Arromdee)

The physical events can very well take place as desribed, namely with "fire
and brimstone" being a literal ancient description of a meteor shower that
happened to be large enough to reach the ground and devastate an entire region.

Meteor showers don't do this [meaning: don't ever strike the ground, since
this is what the reply is in response to]


Well, let us know how your next job application at the French Academy
of the Sciences works out then. It may be a couple hundred years late,
but you may find fellow perennial dourpusses there who still feel that
there's no such thing as rocks striking the ground from outer space.

Meteors never hit the ground. That is an undisputable fact. If you
can't understand why, you should look up the difference between a
meteor and a meteorite.
--
- Mike
Ignore the Python in me to send e-mail.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 09 Dec 2005 07:32:18 AM
In <uemfp1decbibha20f8dg3jo169k1mrqnpp@4ax.com>, Mike Ruskai
<BUTthannydI@DONTearthlinkLIKE.netSPAM> wrote:

On or about 7 Dec 2005 14:57:45 -0800 did "Rock Brentwood"
<markwh04@yahoo.com> dribble thusly:

From:

(Ken Arromdee)

The physical events can very well take place as desribed, namely with
"fire and brimstone" being a literal ancient description of a meteor
shower that happened to be large enough to reach the ground and
devastate an entire region.

Meteor showers don't do this [meaning: don't ever strike the ground,
since this is what the reply is in response to]


Well, let us know how your next job application at the French Academy of
the Sciences works out then. It may be a couple hundred years late, but
you may find fellow perennial dourpusses there who still feel that
there's no such thing as rocks striking the ground from outer space.


Meteors never hit the ground. That is an undisputable fact. If you can't
understand why, you should look up the difference between a meteor and a
meteorite.

Yes but *meters can certainly strike the earth. Particularly during severe
storms...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We need everything you've got"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2726554C
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "jcon"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 09 Dec 2005 10:38:12 AM
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

In <uemfp1decbibha20f8dg3jo169k1mrqnpp@4ax.com>, Mike Ruskai
<BUTthannydI@DONTearthlinkLIKE.netSPAM> wrote:

On or about 7 Dec 2005 14:57:45 -0800 did "Rock Brentwood"
<markwh04@yahoo.com> dribble thusly:

From:

(Ken Arromdee)

The physical events can very well take place as desribed, namely with
"fire and brimstone" being a literal ancient description of a meteor
shower that happened to be large enough to reach the ground and
devastate an entire region.

Meteor showers don't do this [meaning: don't ever strike the ground,
since this is what the reply is in response to]


Well, let us know how your next job application at the French Academy of
the Sciences works out then. It may be a couple hundred years late, but
you may find fellow perennial dourpusses there who still feel that
there's no such thing as rocks striking the ground from outer space.


Meteors never hit the ground. That is an undisputable fact. If you can't
understand why, you should look up the difference between a meteor and a
meteorite.


Yes but *meters can certainly strike the earth. Particularly during severe
storms...

In most of the world, yes, but here in the United States, we are still
hit by inches and feet. Occasionally, we're hit by miles, but that's
only in very severe storms.
-jc

--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------

"We need everything you've got"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2726554C

Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C

Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy

"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C

http://www.nola.com

.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 09 Dec 2005 05:32:36 PM
In <1134146292.694107.37060@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "jcon"
<cirejcon@yahoo.com> wrote:


Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

In <uemfp1decbibha20f8dg3jo169k1mrqnpp@4ax.com>, Mike Ruskai
<BUTthannydI@DONTearthlinkLIKE.netSPAM> wrote:

On or about 7 Dec 2005 14:57:45 -0800 did "Rock Brentwood"
<markwh04@yahoo.com> dribble thusly:

From:

(Ken Arromdee)

The physical events can very well take place as desribed, namely
with "fire and brimstone" being a literal ancient description of a
meteor shower that happened to be large enough to reach the ground
and devastate an entire region.

Meteor showers don't do this [meaning: don't ever strike the ground,
since this is what the reply is in response to]


Well, let us know how your next job application at the French Academy
of the Sciences works out then. It may be a couple hundred years late,
but you may find fellow perennial dourpusses there who still feel that
there's no such thing as rocks striking the ground from outer space.


Meteors never hit the ground. That is an undisputable fact. If you
can't understand why, you should look up the difference between a
meteor and a meteorite.


Yes but *meters can certainly strike the earth. Particularly during
severe storms...


In most of the world, yes, but here in the United States, we are still hit
by inches and feet. Occasionally, we're hit by miles, but that's only in
very severe storms.

Dunno. During Katrina, I suspect we were hit with meters, miles, pecks,
bushels...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We need everything you've got"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2726554C
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "Nightshade"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 10 Dec 2005 03:59:56 AM
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 17:32:36 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In <1134146292.694107.37060@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "jcon"
<cirejcon@yahoo.com> wrote:


Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

In <uemfp1decbibha20f8dg3jo169k1mrqnpp@4ax.com>, Mike Ruskai
<BUTthannydI@DONTearthlinkLIKE.netSPAM> wrote:

On or about 7 Dec 2005 14:57:45 -0800 did "Rock Brentwood"
<markwh04@yahoo.com> dribble thusly:

From:

(Ken Arromdee)

The physical events can very well take place as desribed, namely
with "fire and brimstone" being a literal ancient description of a
meteor shower that happened to be large enough to reach the ground
and devastate an entire region.

Meteor showers don't do this [meaning: don't ever strike the ground,
since this is what the reply is in response to]


Well, let us know how your next job application at the French Academy
of the Sciences works out then. It may be a couple hundred years late,
but you may find fellow perennial dourpusses there who still feel that
there's no such thing as rocks striking the ground from outer space.


Meteors never hit the ground. That is an undisputable fact. If you
can't understand why, you should look up the difference between a
meteor and a meteorite.


Yes but *meters can certainly strike the earth. Particularly during
severe storms...


In most of the world, yes, but here in the United States, we are still hit
by inches and feet. Occasionally, we're hit by miles, but that's only in
very severe storms.


Dunno. During Katrina, I suspect we were hit with meters, miles, pecks,
bushels...

And a hell of a lot of gallons and liters
.





User: "jcon"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 07 Dec 2005 05:29:23 PM
Rock Brentwood wrote:

From:

(Ken Arromdee)

The physical events can very well take place as desribed, namely with "fire
and brimstone" being a literal ancient description of a meteor shower that
happened to be large enough to reach the ground and devastate an entire region.

Meteor showers don't do this [meaning: don't ever strike the ground, since
this is what the reply is in response to]


Well, let us know how your next job application at the French Academy
of the Sciences works out then. It may be a couple hundred years late,
but you may find fellow perennial dourpusses there who still feel that
there's no such thing as rocks striking the ground from outer space.

He didn't say meteors never hit the earth (I could be pedantic and
say that "meteorites" hit the Earth, but I won't). He said "meteor
showers
don't do this", which sane people understand to mean that they
don't do what the original poster claimed; namely, fall to earth in
numbers large enough to "devastate an entire region" and give rise
to "fire and brimstone" legends, and he's right.
First of all, meteor showers are typically the debris of comets
and consist mostly of particles smaller than a grain of sand.
It is rare to have *any* metorites hit the ground in a meteor
shower. Second, meteor showers are not localized, so they
would never devastate a particular area.
It's possble that a single, large metor could fragment in the
atmosphere
and wreak havoc in some fairly localized region, but the results
wouldn't
look very much like the classical Hades.
Since you posted this mid thread, I'm not sure how the discussion
started. If you're looking for some natural explanation of "hell on
earth",
why not pick something a bit more obvious like a volcano or a major
forest fire?
-jc
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User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: A Pseudo-Skeptic Who Claimed Meters Never Impact The Earth 07 Dec 2005 06:27:31 PM
"jcon" <cirejcon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Rock Brentwood wrote:

From:

(Ken Arromdee)

The physical events can very well take place as desribed, namely with
"fire
and brimstone" being a literal ancient description of a meteor shower
that
happened to be large enough to reach the ground and devastate an entire
region.

Meteor showers don't do this [meaning: don't ever strike the ground,
since
this is what the reply is in response to]


Well, let us know how your next job application at the French Academy
of the Sciences works out then. It may be a couple hundred years late,
but you may find fellow perennial dourpusses there who still feel that
there's no such thing as rocks striking the ground from outer space.


He didn't say meteors never hit the earth (I could be pedantic and
say that "meteorites" hit the Earth, but I won't). He said "meteor
showers
don't do this", which sane people understand to mean that they
don't do what the original poster claimed; namely, fall to earth in
numbers large enough to "devastate an entire region" and give rise
to "fire and brimstone" legends, and he's right.

First of all, meteor showers are typically the debris of comets
and consist mostly of particles smaller than a grain of sand.
It is rare to have *any* metorites hit the ground in a meteor
shower. Second, meteor showers are not localized, so they
would never devastate a particular area.

It's possble that a single, large metor could fragment in the
atmosphere
and wreak havoc in some fairly localized region, but the results
wouldn't
look very much like the classical Hades.

Since you posted this mid thread, I'm not sure how the discussion
started. If you're looking for some natural explanation of "hell on
earth",
why not pick something a bit more obvious like a volcano or a major
forest fire?

And who is trying to show what? If one accepts naturalistic explanations for
biblical events, then one removes the miraculous.
That's a good thing. Now what needs to be done is be skeptical about the
biblical accounts themselves.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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