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"Newtons Cat" |
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29 Nov 2004 03:30:52 AM |
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A Question For Christians |
Do you think God is happy with your behaviour?
If God is not happy with your behaviour do you think that He may, at some time in the
future, in some way punish you for the behaviour that you indulge in that He
disapproves of?
What form do you think that this punishment that He decides you deserve might take?
Do you think that becoming an atheist might relieve you of the worry of what He might
be planning to do to you?
If you did become an atheist, having become convinced that there is no God, do you
think that you will then be able to safely indulge in your behaviour?
Metanoia, "repentance", "a change of mind upon reflection".
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| User: "jwk" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
30 Nov 2004 09:11:06 AM |
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"Newton's Cat" <Flying_Pussy@Antigravity.com> wrote in message news:<41aaec57$0$42570$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>...
Do you think God is happy with your behaviour?
Do you understand that you only posted this in an atheist newsgroup?
Why don't you try asking Christians questions in Christian newsgroups?
jwk
Not going too fast for you, am I?
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
29 Nov 2004 09:40:30 AM |
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Newton's Cat wrote:
Do you think God is happy with your behaviour?
(snip)
Actually, I don't think that God is.
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John Popelish
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
29 Nov 2004 02:51:43 PM |
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:30:52 +0000, "Newton's Cat"
<Flying_Pussy@Antigravity.com> in news message
<41aaec57$0$42570$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> wrote:
Do you think God is happy with your behaviour?
Assigning emotions to non-existance entities is a bit silly.
If God is not happy with your behaviour do you think that He may, at some time in the
future, in some way punish you for the behaviour that you indulge in that He
disapproves of?
No.
What form do you think that this punishment that He decides you deserve might take?
Total apathy.
Do you think that becoming an atheist might relieve you of the worry of what He might
be planning to do to you?
I am an atheist and have no worries, but worrying about GodŽ had no
effect on my atheism. I have found that if one doesn't do anything
to feel guilty about, one doesn't feel guilty. One doesn't need to be
afraid of a big, bad god in order to act ethically.
If you did become an atheist, having become convinced that there is no God, do you
think that you will then be able to safely indulge in your behaviour?
Certainly. GodŽ can't do anything to me.
Metanoia, "repentance", "a change of mind upon reflection".
I repent of nothing. There is nothing to repent of.
Liz #658 BAAWA
The shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that
their interests and his own are the same -- Stendhal
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
29 Nov 2004 12:45:16 PM |
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:30:52 +0000, "Newton's Cat"
<Flying_Pussy@Antigravity.com> wrote:
Do you think God is happy with your behaviour?
What god is that?
What is 'god'
Where can I find this god?
Tell me how to contact this god and I will ask it. Otherwise
idle speculation is pointless don't you think?
I am sure if this god of yours actually exists it will be
happy to let me know what it requires of me if I ask
nucely
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
29 Nov 2004 05:51:55 PM |
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:45:16 +0000, Les Hellawell <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
Do you think God is happy with your behaviour?
What god is that?
What is 'god'
Where can I find this god?
He found you.
Tell me how to contact this god and I will ask it. Otherwise
idle speculation is pointless don't you think?
Go ahead and ask. He's listening to you right now.
I am sure if this god of yours actually exists it will be
happy to let me know what it requires of me if I ask
nucely
Absolutely true - He WILL answer you.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
29 Nov 2004 07:12:47 PM |
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On 29 Nov 2004, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:45:16 +0000, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
Do you think God is happy with your behaviour?
What god is that?
What is 'god'
Where can I find this god?
He found you.
Hearsay.
Tell me how to contact this god and I will ask it. Otherwise
idle speculation is pointless don't you think?
Go ahead and ask. He's listening to you right now.
Hearsay. It would be more believable if he actually answered.
I am sure if this god of yours actually exists it will be
happy to let me know what it requires of me if I ask
nucely
Absolutely true - He WILL answer you.
Yet he never does, unless you imagine it.
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
15 Dec 2004 08:53:27 AM |
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:51:55 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 18:45:16 +0000, Les Hellawell <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
Do you think God is happy with your behaviour?
What god is that?
What is 'god'
Where can I find this god?
He found you.
Now he's hiding.
Tell me how to contact this god and I will ask it. Otherwise
idle speculation is pointless don't you think?
Go ahead and ask. He's listening to you right now.
When he's not counting hairs or making Mel Gibson's bed.
I am sure if this god of yours actually exists it will be
happy to let me know what it requires of me if I ask
nucely
Absolutely true - He WILL answer you.
You won't know about it.
duke
*****
-Barry
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Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
29 Nov 2004 08:12:53 PM |
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:30:52 +0000, "Newton's Cat"
<Flying_Pussy@Antigravity.com> wrote:
Do you think God is happy with your behaviour?
I don't quite care if an imaginary being is happy or unhappy with my
behaviour.
Does it matter if Ken is happy with my behaviour, or Barbie?
If God is not happy with your behaviour do you think that He may, at some time in the
future, in some way punish you for the behaviour that you indulge in that He
disapproves of?
Imaginary beings normally don't do anything.
What form do you think that this punishment that He decides you deserve might take?
He (Ken) may restrain me from eating chocolate cookies for 15 minutes.
Do you think that becoming an atheist might relieve you of the worry of what He might
be planning to do to you?
I don't quite know why I would have to hide for an imaginary being.
If you did become an atheist, having become convinced that there is no God, do you
think that you will then be able to safely indulge in your behaviour?
Indulge in my 'evil' 'sinful' way? Already did that when I still was a
believer.
I like to see what those TVangelists have to offer for apology, when
they have been caught in the open with a teenage *****.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
29 Nov 2004 04:36:14 AM |
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:30:52 +0000, "Newton's Cat" <Flying_Pussy@Antigravity.com> wrote:
Do you think God is happy with your behaviour?
He gave us the guidelines to go by. Only he knows for sure.
If God is not happy with your behaviour do you think that He may, at some time in the
future, in some way punish you for the behaviour that you indulge in that He
disapproves of?
Punish is a harsh word. Our God is all loving.
What form do you think that this punishment that He decides you deserve might take?
Left behind.
Do you think that becoming an atheist might relieve you of the worry of what He might
be planning to do to you?
Not a chance. Atheists are sealing their deal.
If you did become an atheist, having become convinced that there is no God, do you
think that you will then be able to safely indulge in your behaviour?
Not a "fart's" chance in a hurricane.
Metanoia, "repentance", "a change of mind upon reflection".
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
30 Nov 2004 01:39:05 PM |
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In article <dkulq092rjs3f6p5t7lrdubhh35a0vkhpo@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:30:52 +0000, "Newton's Cat"
<Flying_Pussy@Antigravity.com> wrote:
Do you think God is happy with your behaviour?
He gave us the guidelines to go by. Only he knows for sure.
Oh, come on. The ultimate lawgiver must, by definition, be totally
arbitrary in what he permits or prohibits.
-chib
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Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
(email: change out to in)
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
15 Dec 2004 08:53:27 AM |
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On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:39:05 -0800, chibiabos <chib@outreach.com> wrote:
In article <dkulq092rjs3f6p5t7lrdubhh35a0vkhpo@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:30:52 +0000, "Newton's Cat"
<Flying_Pussy@Antigravity.com> wrote:
Do you think God is happy with your behaviour?
He gave us the guidelines to go by. Only he knows for sure.
Oh, come on. The ultimate lawgiver must, by definition, be totally
arbitrary in what he permits or prohibits.
God does not have free will.
-chib
-Barry
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Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
15 Dec 2004 08:53:25 AM |
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 04:36:14 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:30:52 +0000, "Newton's Cat" <Flying_Pussy@Antigravity.com> wrote:
Do you think God is happy with your behaviour?
He gave us the guidelines to go by. Only he knows for sure.
Your God is incompetent.
If God is not happy with your behaviour do you think that He may, at some time in the
future, in some way punish you for the behaviour that you indulge in that He
disapproves of?
Punish is a harsh word. Our God is all loving.
Your God does not know what love is.
What form do you think that this punishment that He decides you deserve might take?
Left behind.
To be left behind by God would be a reward.
Do you think that becoming an atheist might relieve you of the worry of what He might
be planning to do to you?
Not a chance. Atheists are sealing their deal.
Duke is a Christian because he is afraid of upsetting God, but what he hasn't figured out
is that if he was an atheist he wouldn't be afraid of God.
If you did become an atheist, having become convinced that there is no God, do you
think that you will then be able to safely indulge in your behaviour?
Not a "fart's" chance in a hurricane.
Metanoia, "repentance", "a change of mind upon reflection".
duke
*****
-Barry
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Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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| User: "CQMMAN" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
29 Nov 2004 06:45:19 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 09:30:52 +0000, "Newton's Cat"
<Flying_Pussy@Antigravity.com> wrote:
Do you think God is happy with your behaviour?
He gave us the guidelines to go by. Only he knows for sure.
If God is not happy with your behaviour do you think that He may, at
some time in the future, in some way punish you for the behaviour
that you indulge in that He disapproves of?
Punish is a harsh word. Our God is all loving.
Gee, there was me thinking that you went to hell if you induldge in things
he doesn't approve of.
Or is hell not a punishment in your eyes?
--
Saddam has continued to produce them, that he has existing and active
military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, which could
be activated within 45 minutes
- Tony Blair on Saddam 24/9/02
"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the
great and enduring alliances of modern times."
George W Bush -Tokyo, Japan, Feb. 18, 2002
suicide bombing is not a belief
-CrazyAlec (internet spook)
"I hear there's rumors on the Internets"
- George W Bush -Oct. 9, 2004
Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to
kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to
have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the feet of the
Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us crying. Even if it
means blowing up one or two synagogues here and there, I don't care.
-- Ariel Sharon, interviewed by Amos Oz (published in the Israeli daily
Davar, DEC 17, 1982
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
29 Nov 2004 05:48:14 PM |
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:45:19 -0000, "CQMMAN" <cqmman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Punish is a harsh word. Our God is all loving.
Gee, there was me thinking that you went to hell if you induldge in things
he doesn't approve of.
Something bad happens, but he gives you every chance to change right up until the moment
you take your final breath on this earth.
Or is hell not a punishment in your eyes?
The reference to hell is that of burning the chaff as opposed to the good wheat. I like
the concept of left behind as a way of viewing it.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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15 Dec 2004 08:53:26 AM |
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:48:14 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:45:19 -0000, "CQMMAN" <cqmman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Punish is a harsh word. Our God is all loving.
Gee, there was me thinking that you went to hell if you induldge in things
he doesn't approve of.
Something bad happens, but he gives you every chance to change right up until the moment
you take your final breath on this earth.
Surely God would not punish us for being the way he made us.
Or is hell not a punishment in your eyes?
The reference to hell is that of burning the chaff as opposed to the good wheat. I like
the concept of left behind as a way of viewing it.
I like the idea of being left behind by your God.
duke
*****
-Barry
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Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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| User: "CQMMAN" |
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30 Nov 2004 02:52:28 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:45:19 -0000, "CQMMAN" <cqmman@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
Punish is a harsh word. Our God is all loving.
Gee, there was me thinking that you went to hell if you induldge in
things he doesn't approve of.
Something bad happens, but he gives you every chance to change right
up until the moment you take your final breath on this earth.
Rigggghhhhtttt, so you could have been a saint all your life, see a
beautiful girl, think she is a worth a ride, keel over with a heart attack,
and you are sent to hell.
Yep, that is "all loving".
Or is hell not a punishment in your eyes?
The reference to hell is that of burning the chaff as opposed to the
good wheat. I like the concept of left behind as a way of viewing it.
So hell isn't a punishment?
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
29 Nov 2004 01:44:34 PM |
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on 29 Nov 2004 in alt.atheism, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:
Punish is a harsh word. Our God is all loving.
Well, not all...
John 3:36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth
not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Not a chance. Atheists are sealing their deal.
You've contradicted yourself, puke.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
29 Nov 2004 05:50:29 PM |
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On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:44:34 -0600, Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Punish is a harsh word. Our God is all loving.
Well, not all...
John 3:36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth
not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Of course, but what is the wrath of God? Maybe it is eternal torture, maybe something
less. I know enough to realize that no one would choose to experience the hell.
Not a chance. Atheists are sealing their deal.
You've contradicted yourself, puke.
Nope. Atheists don't believe on the Son. It all falls into place, see.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
29 Nov 2004 06:46:21 PM |
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On 29 Nov 2004, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:44:34 -0600, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
Punish is a harsh word. Our God is all loving.
Well, not all...
John 3:36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that
believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth
on him.
Of course, but what is the wrath of God? Maybe it is eternal torture,
maybe something less. I know enough to realize that no one would
choose to experience the hell.
Then why would a god that loves all send someone there?
Not a chance. Atheists are sealing their deal.
You've contradicted yourself, puke.
Nope. Atheists don't believe on the Son. It all falls into place,
see.
That's not the contradiction. "Atheists are sealing their deal" suggests
we are going to whatever hell is - which contradicts the notion of an
all-loving god.
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: A Question For Christians |
29 Nov 2004 01:30:33 PM |
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on 29 Nov 2004 in alt.atheism, Newton's Cat dropped trou, farted,
whirled, then shouted:
Do you think God is happy with your behaviour?
There is no god.
If God is not happy with your behaviour do you think that He may, at
some time in the future, in some way punish you for the behaviour that
you indulge in that He disapproves of?
N/A
What form do you think that this punishment that He decides you
deserve might take?
N/A
Do you think that becoming an atheist might relieve you of the worry
of what He might be planning to do to you?
N/A
If you did become an atheist, having become convinced that there is no
God, do you think that you will then be able to safely indulge in your
behaviour?
Sorry, I wasn't paying attention. What behavior?
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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29 Nov 2004 03:49:50 PM |
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on 29 Nov 2004 in alt.atheism, Newton's Cat dropped trou, farted,
whirled, then shouted:
And now to connect the subject with the body.
<christian>
Do you think God is happy with your behaviour?
Of course. He always approves of me.
If God is not happy with your behaviour do you think that He may, at
some time in the future, in some way punish you for the behaviour that
you indulge in that He disapproves of?
He doesn't disapprove, for I am moral. But if I did, He would.
What form do you think that this punishment that He decides you
deserve might take?
If I deserved punishment, it would be the worst kind of agony imaginable,
forever, of course. God is love. Praise God!
Do you think that becoming an atheist might relieve you of the worry
of what He might be planning to do to you?
<shock> Oh, never! Atheism makes Baby Jesus cry!
If you did become an atheist, having become convinced that there is no
God, do you think that you will then be able to safely indulge in your
behaviour?
Never! God punishes all atheists horribly forever. It's their funeral!
Amen!
</christian>
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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