Religions > Atheism > A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer
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"Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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08 Mar 2006 07:05:04 AM |
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A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
pro-zygotes.
http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it. You can
rescue one or the other, but not both. Which do you rescue, the girl
or the petri dish?
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| User: "J Young" |
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08 Mar 2006 10:02:14 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
pro-zygotes.
http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it. You can
rescue one or the other, but not both. Which do you rescue, the girl
or the petri dish?
Hate to answer a question with another question but; what the hell is a 2
year old girl doing at a fertility clinic?
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| User: "SpankyTClown" |
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09 Mar 2006 08:45:05 AM |
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Getting an abortion and scoring some rubbers of course.
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| User: "quibbler" |
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08 Mar 2006 10:34:30 AM |
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In article <C9OdnXxzcrWQnZLZRVn-tw@giganews.com>,
says...
Hate to answer a question with another question but;
Where the hell did you learn to punctuate like that? Correctly written,
an implied "I" before "Hate" and a "," before "but" is correct. That's
two main clauses separated by a comma and a conjunction.
what the hell is a 2
year old girl doing at a fertility clinic?
You mean "two-year-old", apparently. As to why she's there, maybe it's
"bring your daughter to work day" for the doctors and/or nurses who work
there.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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08 Mar 2006 01:34:25 PM |
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"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e78b580b6a94004989865@news.readfreenews.net...
In article <C9OdnXxzcrWQnZLZRVn-tw@giganews.com>,
says...
Hate to answer a question with another question but;
Where the hell did you learn to punctuate like that? Correctly written,
an implied "I" before "Hate" and a "," before "but" is correct. That's
two main clauses separated by a comma and a conjunction.
what the hell is a 2
year old girl doing at a fertility clinic?
You mean "two-year-old", apparently. As to why she's there, maybe it's
"bring your daughter to work day" for the doctors and/or nurses who work
there.
Note he didn't answer the question, he just asked some other irrelevant
questions.
I guess you're right, he can't answer it.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "stoney" |
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10 Mar 2006 02:27:58 PM |
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On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 11:02:14 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
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Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
pro-zygotes.
http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it. You can
rescue one or the other, but not both. Which do you rescue, the girl
or the petri dish?
Hate to answer a question with another question but; what the hell is a 2
year old girl doing at a fertility clinic?
Young grabs the petri dish for lunch.
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be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "G-Ride" |
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08 Mar 2006 02:57:57 PM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:82lt0253um4rf84d7f6mdu6bb402ovipi1@4ax.com...
Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
pro-zygotes.
http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it. You can
rescue one or the other, but not both. Which do you rescue, the girl
or the petri dish?
Here is some commentary on what I think is a better question to ask the
pro-life crowd:
http://www.digbysblog.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_digbysblog_archive.html#114175425569326066
and a follow-up post:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_digbysblog_archive.html#114176844964079664
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Aloha, G-Ride
"Birds fall from the window ledge above mine.
Then they flap their wings at the last second."
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
09 Mar 2006 03:56:57 PM |
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I think a better set of questions would be...
1. If you walked past a burning school, would you run inside, risking
your own life, to try and save any kids that are still inside?
2. If you walked past a burning fertility clinic, would you run inside,
risking your own life, to try and save the petry dishes.
Many will answer yes to #1, only liars answer yes to #2.
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
08 Mar 2006 10:17:09 AM |
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In article <82lt0253um4rf84d7f6mdu6bb402ovipi1@4ax.com>,
eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com says...
Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
pro-zygotes.
http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it.
I've seen this example before and it needs to be fixed. Instead of a
petri dish it should be a "refrigerator full of many frozen blastula".
At present it would be possible to carry both, though it might be a bit
precarious to carry the child with one arm and the petri dish in the
other.
You can
rescue one or the other, but not both.
Only if the example is fixed so that it is physically impossible to lug
both in one trip.
Which do you rescue, the girl
or the petri dish?
This should be reworded, "If you had to prioritize, would you try to
rescue the two-year-old or the blastulas first?"
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Richard Dawkins" |
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11 Mar 2006 08:34:43 PM |
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"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e78b1748b732155989864@news.readfreenews.net...
In article <82lt0253um4rf84d7f6mdu6bb402ovipi1@4ax.com>,
eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com says...
Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
pro-zygotes.
http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it.
I've seen this example before and it needs to be fixed. Instead of a
petri dish it should be a "refrigerator full of many frozen blastula".
At present it would be possible to carry both, though it might be a bit
precarious to carry the child with one arm and the petri dish in the
other.
You can
rescue one or the other, but not both.
Only if the example is fixed so that it is physically impossible to lug
both in one trip.
Which do you rescue, the girl
or the petri dish?
This should be reworded, "If you had to prioritize, would you try to
rescue the two-year-old or the blastulas first?"
This should be reworded as a stupid question bordering non-sequitar.
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| User: "Budikka" |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
12 Mar 2006 06:37:45 AM |
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***** Dork Lied:
"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e78b1748b732155989864@news.readfreenews.net...
In article <82lt0253um4rf84d7f6mdu6bb402ovipi1@4ax.com>,
eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com says...
Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
pro-zygotes.
http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it.
I've seen this example before and it needs to be fixed. Instead of a
petri dish it should be a "refrigerator full of many frozen blastula".
At present it would be possible to carry both, though it might be a bit
precarious to carry the child with one arm and the petri dish in the
other.
You can
rescue one or the other, but not both.
Only if the example is fixed so that it is physically impossible to lug
both in one trip.
Which do you rescue, the girl
or the petri dish?
This should be reworded, "If you had to prioritize, would you try to
rescue the two-year-old or the blastulas first?"
This should be reworded as a stupid question bordering non-sequitar.
Well you're the acknowledged expert on that, but it still doesn't mean
you have a clue what you're talking about, nor does it mean you're not
a demonstrated liar.
Still waiting on your finding:
A. The scientific support
and
B. The guts
to support your position on evolution in a formal debate with me,
coward.
Budikka
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| User: "thomas p" |
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12 Mar 2006 02:01:54 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:34:43 -0700, "Richard Dawkins"
<Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e78b1748b732155989864@news.readfreenews.net...
In article <82lt0253um4rf84d7f6mdu6bb402ovipi1@4ax.com>,
eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com says...
Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
pro-zygotes.
http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it.
I've seen this example before and it needs to be fixed. Instead of a
petri dish it should be a "refrigerator full of many frozen blastula".
At present it would be possible to carry both, though it might be a bit
precarious to carry the child with one arm and the petri dish in the
other.
You can
rescue one or the other, but not both.
Only if the example is fixed so that it is physically impossible to lug
both in one trip.
Which do you rescue, the girl
or the petri dish?
This should be reworded, "If you had to prioritize, would you try to
rescue the two-year-old or the blastulas first?"
This should be reworded as a stupid question bordering non-sequitar.
Do you or do you not consider the blastulas human beings just like the
little girl? If you do, and you were forced to choose between saving
one human being (the girl) or five (the blastulas), what would your
choice be? Osprey's answer destroyed his argument against abortion,
therefore the question is quite relevant.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Richard Dawkins" |
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12 Mar 2006 02:29:39 PM |
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"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:34:43 -0700, "Richard Dawkins"
<Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e78b1748b732155989864@news.readfreenews.net...
In article <82lt0253um4rf84d7f6mdu6bb402ovipi1@4ax.com>,
eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com says...
Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
pro-zygotes.
http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it.
I've seen this example before and it needs to be fixed. Instead of a
petri dish it should be a "refrigerator full of many frozen blastula".
At present it would be possible to carry both, though it might be a bit
precarious to carry the child with one arm and the petri dish in the
other.
You can
rescue one or the other, but not both.
Only if the example is fixed so that it is physically impossible to lug
both in one trip.
Which do you rescue, the girl
or the petri dish?
This should be reworded, "If you had to prioritize, would you try to
rescue the two-year-old or the blastulas first?"
This should be reworded as a stupid question bordering non-sequitar.
Do you or do you not consider the blastulas human beings just like the
little girl? If you do, and you were forced to choose between saving
one human being (the girl) or five (the blastulas), what would your
choice be? Osprey's answer destroyed his argument against abortion,
therefore the question is quite relevant.
The basic problem is that you God Haters are dishonest to the bone and ask
questions not for knowledge but for the opportunity at mocking.
The question asked is so out of touch with reality that it doesn't even
dignify an answer of any sort whatsoever.
You God-Haters need to crawl back into your holes or stay on your own
newsgroups where you belong.
We are way too advance for you here.
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| User: "Ichimusai" |
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12 Mar 2006 04:26:26 PM |
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"Richard Dawkins" <Dawkins@Hell.com> writes:
Do you or do you not consider the blastulas human beings just like
the little girl? If you do, and you were forced to choose between
saving one human being (the girl) or five (the blastulas), what
would your choice be? Osprey's answer destroyed his argument
against abortion, therefore the question is quite relevant.
The basic problem is that you God Haters are dishonest to the bone
and ask questions not for knowledge but for the opportunity at
mocking. The question asked is so out of touch with reality that it
doesn't even dignify an answer of any sort whatsoever. You
God-Haters need to crawl back into your holes or stay on your own
newsgroups where you belong. We are way too advance for you here.
I think that everyone noted that evasion and refusal of answering the
question. Would it be that you had _actually_ considered the blastulas
as being human life, sacred and all, the answer should be quite clear
- yet you do hesitate and then turn to evasion tactics.
You are not alone, most people who says that a zygote should be
treated as a full human being with all human rights usually do this
when carefully examined.
I think you should rather rethink your position on this and hopefully
you would also realize why the majority of the world do not bestow
human rights on a zygote or a blastula inside a womans body. That
would serve you much better than just resorting to name calling when
the futility of your beliefs are shown.
--
http://ichimusai.org/
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"Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never
cease to be amused."
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| User: "thomas p" |
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13 Mar 2006 01:48:52 AM |
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 13:29:39 -0700, "Richard Dawkins"
<Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
news:l7i712pv74l21kc1bke77q5i5950bkcfnc@4ax.com...
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:34:43 -0700, "Richard Dawkins"
<Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e78b1748b732155989864@news.readfreenews.net...
In article <82lt0253um4rf84d7f6mdu6bb402ovipi1@4ax.com>,
eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com says...
Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
pro-zygotes.
http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it.
I've seen this example before and it needs to be fixed. Instead of a
petri dish it should be a "refrigerator full of many frozen blastula".
At present it would be possible to carry both, though it might be a bit
precarious to carry the child with one arm and the petri dish in the
other.
You can
rescue one or the other, but not both.
Only if the example is fixed so that it is physically impossible to lug
both in one trip.
Which do you rescue, the girl
or the petri dish?
This should be reworded, "If you had to prioritize, would you try to
rescue the two-year-old or the blastulas first?"
This should be reworded as a stupid question bordering non-sequitar.
Do you or do you not consider the blastulas human beings just like the
little girl? If you do, and you were forced to choose between saving
one human being (the girl) or five (the blastulas), what would your
choice be? Osprey's answer destroyed his argument against abortion,
therefore the question is quite relevant.
The basic problem is that you God Haters are dishonest to the bone and ask
questions not for knowledge but for the opportunity at mocking.
The question asked is so out of touch with reality that it doesn't even
dignify an answer of any sort whatsoever.
You God-Haters need to crawl back into your holes or stay on your own
newsgroups where you belong.
We are way too advance for you here.
In other words you do not have the ability to answer the question or
the honesty to admit it.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
12 Mar 2006 02:08:27 AM |
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thomas p wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:34:43 -0700, "Richard Dawkins"
<Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e78b1748b732155989864@news.readfreenews.net...
In article <82lt0253um4rf84d7f6mdu6bb402ovipi1@4ax.com>,
eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com says...
Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
pro-zygotes.
http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it.
I've seen this example before and it needs to be fixed. Instead of a
petri dish it should be a "refrigerator full of many frozen blastula".
At present it would be possible to carry both, though it might be a bit
precarious to carry the child with one arm and the petri dish in the
other.
You can
rescue one or the other, but not both.
Only if the example is fixed so that it is physically impossible to lug
both in one trip.
Which do you rescue, the girl
or the petri dish?
This should be reworded, "If you had to prioritize, would you try to
rescue the two-year-old or the blastulas first?"
This should be reworded as a stupid question bordering non-sequitar.
Do you or do you not consider the blastulas human beings just like the
little girl? If you do, and you were forced to choose between saving
one human being (the girl) or five (the blastulas), what would your
choice be? Osprey's answer destroyed his argument against abortion,
therefore the question is quite relevant.
What's my argument against abortion?
I think it's wrong...what's your problem???
I think your problem is, unless someone agrees with you...you have a
problem.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
12 Mar 2006 07:16:45 AM |
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In article <1142150907.254354.100610@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
What's my argument against abortion?
I think it's wrong.
then clearly you'd allow everyone else to make that same decision for
themselves and you'd oppose legislation or regulation to limit that
right. is that correct?
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
12 Mar 2006 07:38:01 AM |
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On 12 Mar 2006 00:08:27 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
thomas p wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:34:43 -0700, "Richard Dawkins"
<Dawkins@Hell.com> wrote:
"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e78b1748b732155989864@news.readfreenews.net...
In article <82lt0253um4rf84d7f6mdu6bb402ovipi1@4ax.com>,
eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com says...
Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
pro-zygotes.
http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it.
I've seen this example before and it needs to be fixed. Instead of a
petri dish it should be a "refrigerator full of many frozen blastula".
At present it would be possible to carry both, though it might be a bit
precarious to carry the child with one arm and the petri dish in the
other.
You can
rescue one or the other, but not both.
Only if the example is fixed so that it is physically impossible to lug
both in one trip.
Which do you rescue, the girl
or the petri dish?
This should be reworded, "If you had to prioritize, would you try to
rescue the two-year-old or the blastulas first?"
This should be reworded as a stupid question bordering non-sequitar.
Do you or do you not consider the blastulas human beings just like the
little girl? If you do, and you were forced to choose between saving
one human being (the girl) or five (the blastulas), what would your
choice be? Osprey's answer destroyed his argument against abortion,
therefore the question is quite relevant.
What's my argument against abortion?
I think it's wrong...what's your problem???
I think your problem is, unless someone agrees with you...you have a
problem.
No, the problem is that you do not agree with yourself. It is
fantastic (if true) that you cannot see how you have contradicted
yourself, even after others have pointed it out. You have provided a
wonderful example of the incoherency of the anti-choice position.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
12 Mar 2006 10:14:27 AM |
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osprey LIED:
I
"One last note: I am very surprised at your reaction especially after
just a few short months ago I provided a copy of my DD214 Right in
box 18...1st line it says... SERVED 2 AUG 90 TO 1 OCT 94 IN SUPPORT
OF OPERATION DESERT SHIELD/STORM and in box 13 NATIONAL DEFENSE SERVICE
MEDAL Funny how you have selective memory, why? Yes, I served in combat
during Desert Storm."
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.abortion/msg/38f5de5691243868?dmode=source&hl=en
"Fine, if you want to play on words...no I was not in actual "combat" "
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/db12fe6b6ec66a35?dmode=source&hl=en
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
10 Mar 2006 05:51:05 PM |
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quibbler wrote:
In article <82lt0253um4rf84d7f6mdu6bb402ovipi1@4ax.com>,
eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com says...
Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
pro-zygotes.
http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it.
I've seen this example before and it needs to be fixed. Instead of a
petri dish it should be a "refrigerator full of many frozen blastula".
At present it would be possible to carry both, though it might be a bit
precarious to carry the child with one arm and the petri dish in the
other.
Let's not quibble about the question. The petri dish is undoubtedly
locked up which would require effort to "rescue" it, whereas the girl
(who was in daycare at the clinic and ran the wrong way in panic) is
ready to go. If you take time to break through the lock to the petri
dish, you lose the girl.
Now we've settled that, let's see who among the so-called pro-life scum
will try to *actually* offer a reasonable answer, as opposed to
throwing out ten trillion straw men or running away like they usually
do.
Vaccines saved literally thousands of children from being aborted
post-partum by the evil of measles, which their god created
specifically to destroy lives:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4792756.stm
What are the pro-lifers doing other than whining a lot?
Budikka
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
11 Mar 2006 04:37:49 PM |
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On 10 Mar 2006 15:51:05 -0800, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote in alt.atheism
quibbler wrote:
In article <82lt0253um4rf84d7f6mdu6bb402ovipi1@4ax.com>,
eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com says...
Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
pro-zygotes.
http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it.
I've seen this example before and it needs to be fixed. Instead of a
petri dish it should be a "refrigerator full of many frozen blastula".
At present it would be possible to carry both, though it might be a bit
precarious to carry the child with one arm and the petri dish in the
other.
Let's not quibble about the question. The petri dish is undoubtedly
locked up which would require effort to "rescue" it, whereas the girl
(who was in daycare at the clinic and ran the wrong way in panic) is
ready to go. If you take time to break through the lock to the petri
dish, you lose the girl.
Now we've settled that, let's see who among the so-called pro-life scum
will try to *actually* offer a reasonable answer, as opposed to
throwing out ten trillion straw men or running away like they usually
do.
Vaccines saved literally thousands of children from being aborted
post-partum by the evil of measles, which their god created
specifically to destroy lives:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4792756.stm
What are the pro-lifers doing other than whining a lot?
Shitting their diapers/nappies.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Jeff North" |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
08 Mar 2006 04:35:49 PM |
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On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 05:05:04 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
<82lt0253um4rf84d7f6mdu6bb402ovipi1@4ax.com> wrote:
| Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
| pro-zygotes.
|
| http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
|
| You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
| ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
| there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it. You can
| rescue one or the other, but not both. Which do you rescue, the girl
| or the petri dish?
Neither. They might be forced to take responsibility for their own
actions.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
08 Mar 2006 01:59:20 PM |
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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
pro-zygotes.
http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it. You can
rescue one or the other, but not both. Which do you rescue, the girl
or the petri dish?
Showing once again Yang is a hatefilled bigot...
I would make every attempt to save the girl. Now, that blows away your
lie.
When is Yang going to grow up and stop being a bigot?
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
09 Mar 2006 09:37:48 AM |
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In article <1141847959.948824.67570@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
pro-zygotes.
http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it. You can
rescue one or the other, but not both. Which do you rescue, the girl
or the petri dish?
Showing once again Yang is a hatefilled bigot...
I would make every attempt to save the girl. Now, that blows away your
lie.
When is Yang going to grow up and stop being a bigot?
Standard Osprey answer.
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| User: "Jeff North" |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
08 Mar 2006 04:39:21 PM |
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On 8 Mar 2006 11:59:20 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality "osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
<1141847959.948824.67570@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> wrote:
| Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
| > Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
| > pro-zygotes.
| >
| > http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
| >
| > You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
| > ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
| > there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it. You can
| > rescue one or the other, but not both. Which do you rescue, the girl
| > or the petri dish?
|
| Showing once again Yang is a hatefilled bigot...
|
| I would make every attempt to save the girl. Now, that blows away your
| lie.
| When is Yang going to grow up and stop being a bigot?
But you'd be murdering those unborn children!
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
09 Mar 2006 02:27:19 AM |
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Jeff North wrote:
On 8 Mar 2006 11:59:20 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality "osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
<1141847959.948824.67570@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> wrote:
| Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
| > Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
| > pro-zygotes.
| >
| > http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
| >
| > You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
| > ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
| > there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it. You can
| > rescue one or the other, but not both. Which do you rescue, the girl
| > or the petri dish?
|
| Showing once again Yang is a hatefilled bigot...
|
| I would make every attempt to save the girl. Now, that blows away your
| lie.
| When is Yang going to grow up and stop being a bigot?
But you'd be murdering those unborn children!
Murder is against the law.
It's homicide and not all homicide is murder.
I'm sorry that as someone who does not support abortion dissappointed
you with the answer.
But I would save the living child first.
If possible that both could be saved, I would try; however, if the
choice had to be made the living child comes first.
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
09 Mar 2006 08:27:58 AM |
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On 9 Mar 2006 00:27:19 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Jeff North wrote:
On 8 Mar 2006 11:59:20 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality "osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
<1141847959.948824.67570@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> wrote:
| Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
| > Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
| > pro-zygotes.
| >
| > http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
| >
| > You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
| > ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
| > there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it. You can
| > rescue one or the other, but not both. Which do you rescue, the girl
| > or the petri dish?
|
| Showing once again Yang is a hatefilled bigot...
|
| I would make every attempt to save the girl. Now, that blows away your
| lie.
| When is Yang going to grow up and stop being a bigot?
But you'd be murdering those unborn children!
Murder is against the law.
It's homicide and not all homicide is murder.
I'm sorry that as someone who does not support abortion dissappointed
you with the answer.
But I would save the living child first.
If possible that both could be saved, I would try; however, if the
choice had to be made the living child comes first.
In other words you do not think the others are living or children.
What is your objection to abortion again?
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
10 Mar 2006 12:33:31 PM |
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thomas p wrote:
On 9 Mar 2006 00:27:19 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Jeff North wrote:
On 8 Mar 2006 11:59:20 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality "osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
<1141847959.948824.67570@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> wrote:
| Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
| > Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
| > pro-zygotes.
| >
| > http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
| >
| > You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
| > ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
| > there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it. You can
| > rescue one or the other, but not both. Which do you rescue, the girl
| > or the petri dish?
|
| Showing once again Yang is a hatefilled bigot...
|
| I would make every attempt to save the girl. Now, that blows away your
| lie.
| When is Yang going to grow up and stop being a bigot?
But you'd be murdering those unborn children!
Murder is against the law.
It's homicide and not all homicide is murder.
I'm sorry that as someone who does not support abortion dissappointed
you with the answer.
But I would save the living child first.
If possible that both could be saved, I would try; however, if the
choice had to be made the living child comes first.
In other words you do not think the others are living or children.
What is your objection to abortion again?
I believe they are living human beings.
My objection is, abortion is morally WRONG.
We should be striving to teach and help people AVOID getting into the
situation instead of waiting for the women to get pregnant and having
to even consider abortion.
It's called being "pro-active" instead of being "re-active".
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| User: "thomas p" |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
11 Mar 2006 12:51:59 AM |
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On 10 Mar 2006 10:33:31 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
thomas p wrote:
On 9 Mar 2006 00:27:19 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Jeff North wrote:
On 8 Mar 2006 11:59:20 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality "osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
<1141847959.948824.67570@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> wrote:
| Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
| > Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
| > pro-zygotes.
| >
| > http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
| >
| > You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
| > ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
| > there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it. You can
| > rescue one or the other, but not both. Which do you rescue, the girl
| > or the petri dish?
|
| Showing once again Yang is a hatefilled bigot...
|
| I would make every attempt to save the girl. Now, that blows away your
| lie.
| When is Yang going to grow up and stop being a bigot?
But you'd be murdering those unborn children!
Murder is against the law.
It's homicide and not all homicide is murder.
I'm sorry that as someone who does not support abortion dissappointed
you with the answer.
But I would save the living child first.
If possible that both could be saved, I would try; however, if the
choice had to be made the living child comes first.
In other words you do not think the others are living or children.
What is your objection to abortion again?
I believe they are living human beings.
My objection is, abortion is morally WRONG.
Yet you are willing to let five humans die in order to save one.
Apparently the inconsistency does not bother you.
We should be striving to teach and help people AVOID getting into the
situation instead of waiting for the women to get pregnant and having
to even consider abortion.
It's called being "pro-active" instead of being "re-active".
Good, you are in favor of sex education and birth control, and you do
not think that fertilized eggs are as valuable as children. Your
position certainly resembles that of most pro-choice people.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
11 Mar 2006 09:14:16 AM |
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thomas p wrote:
On 10 Mar 2006 10:33:31 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
thomas p wrote:
On 9 Mar 2006 00:27:19 -0800, "osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Jeff North wrote:
On 8 Mar 2006 11:59:20 -0800, in alt.politics.homosexuality "osprey"
<noneedtoknow@mail.com>
<1141847959.948824.67570@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> wrote:
| Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
| > Showing once again that liberals are pro-children, conservatives are
| > pro-zygotes.
| >
| > http://www.firedoglake.blogspot.com/
| >
| > You find yourself in a blazing fertility clinic - the fire is
| > ferocious. In one corner there is a two year old girl. In another,
| > there is a petri dish with five fertilized blastula in it. You can
| > rescue one or the other, but not both. Which do you rescue, the girl
| > or the petri dish?
|
| Showing once again Yang is a hatefilled bigot...
|
| I would make every attempt to save the girl. Now, that blows away your
| lie.
| When is Yang going to grow up and stop being a bigot?
But you'd be murdering those unborn children!
Murder is against the law.
It's homicide and not all homicide is murder.
I'm sorry that as someone who does not support abortion dissappointed
you with the answer.
But I would save the living child first.
If possible that both could be saved, I would try; however, if the
choice had to be made the living child comes first.
In other words you do not think the others are living or children.
What is your objection to abortion again?
I believe they are living human beings.
My objection is, abortion is morally WRONG.
Yet you are willing to let five humans die in order to save one.
Apparently the inconsistency does not bother you.
Apparently, what bothers you is my answer didn't fit your little
stereotype.
This is obvious because a few others have a problem with it as well.
Just because I said I would save the child first you seem to have a
problem with it.
Why was it when ships sank, the order was to save women and children
first. Were men not equally as important?
We can go all day long with questions like this and the answer will
still be the same, sometimes in life we make sacrifices.
It's too bad my answer didn't fit into your little stereotype. Maybe
you should just learn that stereotyping people simple isn't a good
thing to do.
We should be striving to teach and help people AVOID getting into the
situation instead of waiting for the women to get pregnant and having
to even consider abortion.
It's called being "pro-active" instead of being "re-active".
Good, you are in favor of sex education and birth control, and you do
not think that fertilized eggs are as valuable as children. Your
position certainly resembles that of most pro-choice people.
No, I am not among any "group" of people. I am an individual and I
don't need to pick and choose sides. That may work for you and you may
need that.
I view abortion as WRONG.
Do you have a problem with that?
Or are you saying that "pro-choice" people must view abortion as right?
That's a question I have noticed many people within your ilk avoid
answering at all cost.
So let's ask you that question shall we?
Do you think that in order to be "pro-choice" one must view abortion as
a "right" instead of a "wrong"?
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: A Question "Pro-Life" Christians Are Too Cowardly to Answer |
11 Mar 2006 09:39:56 AM |
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In article <1142090056.567293.293120@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Why was it when ships sank, the order was to save women and children
first.
you should have learned that before you based one of your failed
arguments on another of your mistaken assumptions.
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