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"metaperson" |
| Date: |
29 Oct 2003 05:09:22 AM |
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A question to everyone |
Hi,
I find myself in some kind of an unpleasant state of mind: my life is dull
and uninteresting... I don't see how do I want to spend the time of my life.
Who knows, maybe if I ask a lot of people about what is most important to
them in their life, I'll find an answer for myself. They say, enthusiasm is
infectious.
At least, such kind of action seems to bring more hope than just sitting
around alt.support.depression or alt.support.loneliness.
(And besides, I like talking to people. A few days ago, before getting
access to the net, I was in a much worse state - I was going crazy.)
So, here is my question: what are you enthusiastic about?
Or what justifies the value of life for you?
Metaperson.
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| User: "Joey" |
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| Title: Re: A question to everyone |
29 Oct 2003 09:08:26 PM |
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"metaperson" <metaperson@mtu-net.ru> wrote in
news:bno86g$6tf$6@gavrilo.mtu.ru:
Hi,
I find myself in some kind of an unpleasant state of mind: my life is
dull and uninteresting... I don't see how do I want to spend the time
of my life.
Who knows, maybe if I ask a lot of people about what is most important
to them in their life, I'll find an answer for myself. They say,
enthusiasm is infectious.
At least, such kind of action seems to bring more hope than just
sitting around alt.support.depression or alt.support.loneliness.
(And besides, I like talking to people. A few days ago, before getting
access to the net, I was in a much worse state - I was going crazy.)
So, here is my question: what are you enthusiastic about?
Or what justifies the value of life for you?
Metaperson.
Motorcycle.
Joey
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| User: "the cutest atheist" |
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| Title: Re: A question to everyone |
29 Oct 2003 05:45:58 AM |
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"metaperson" <metaperson@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message
news:bno86g$6tf$6@gavrilo.mtu.ru...
Hi,
I find myself in some kind of an unpleasant state of mind: my life is
dull
and uninteresting... I don't see how do I want to spend the time of my
life.
read books, live vicariously ;)
Who knows, maybe if I ask a lot of people about what is most important to
them in their life, I'll find an answer for myself. They say, enthusiasm
is
infectious.
At least, such kind of action seems to bring more hope than just sitting
around alt.support.depression or alt.support.loneliness.
yeah, only hang out there if you want an extra reason to kill yourself
(And besides, I like talking to people. A few days ago, before getting
access to the net, I was in a much worse state - I was going crazy.)
So, here is my question: what are you enthusiastic about?
Or what justifies the value of life for you?
spanking idiots, long walks on the beach, pina coladas and gettin caught in
the rain
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: A question to everyone |
29 Oct 2003 11:12:49 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:45:58 GMT, "the cutest atheist"
<herdofnerd(remove)@hotmail.com>, Message ID:
<WLNnb.169853$bo1.44770@news-server.bigpond.net.au> wrote in
alt.atheism;
"metaperson" <metaperson@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message
news:bno86g$6tf$6@gavrilo.mtu.ru...
Hi,
I find myself in some kind of an unpleasant state of mind: my life is
dull
and uninteresting... I don't see how do I want to spend the time of my
life.
read books, live vicariously ;)
Who knows, maybe if I ask a lot of people about what is most important to
them in their life, I'll find an answer for myself. They say, enthusiasm
is
infectious.
At least, such kind of action seems to bring more hope than just sitting
around alt.support.depression or alt.support.loneliness.
yeah, only hang out there if you want an extra reason to kill yourself
(And besides, I like talking to people. A few days ago, before getting
access to the net, I was in a much worse state - I was going crazy.)
So, here is my question: what are you enthusiastic about?
Or what justifies the value of life for you?
spanking idiots, long walks on the beach, pina coladas and gettin caught in
the rain
and Barry Manilow records...
::::::::::::::::::::::::::FFFFFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE""""""""""
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "jwk" |
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| Title: Re: A question to everyone |
29 Oct 2003 09:28:51 AM |
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"metaperson" <metaperson@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message news:<bno86g$6tf$6@gavrilo.mtu.ru>...
Hi,
I find myself in some kind of an unpleasant state of mind: my life is dull
and uninteresting... I don't see how do I want to spend the time of my life.
Who knows, maybe if I ask a lot of people about what is most important to
them in their life, I'll find an answer for myself. They say, enthusiasm is
infectious.
At least, such kind of action seems to bring more hope than just sitting
around alt.support.depression or alt.support.loneliness.
(And besides, I like talking to people. A few days ago, before getting
access to the net, I was in a much worse state - I was going crazy.)
So, here is my question: what are you enthusiastic about?
Or what justifies the value of life for you?
Metaperson.
Not knowing a thing about you all I can suggest is a physical exercise
routine. Streneous exercise supposedly alleviates some of the
feelings you mention. Play a sport, even a light one, go for long
walks, take aerobics, whatever. Just put yourself in motion. You
don't need to be a great physical specimen to benefit mentally from a
little exercise. Other than that, seek counseling.
jwk
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| User: "Arjen Klaver" |
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| Title: Re: A question to everyone |
29 Oct 2003 01:58:33 PM |
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at news:c6f5ba32.0310290728.22397d6f@posting.google.com
jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com (jwk) wrote in
news:c6f5ba32.0310290728.22397d6f@posting.google.com:
"metaperson" <metaperson@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message
news:<bno86g$6tf$6@gavrilo.mtu.ru>...
So, here is my question: what are you enthusiastic about?
Or what justifies the value of life for you?
Not knowing a thing about you all I can suggest is a physical exercise
routine. Streneous exercise supposedly alleviates some of the
feelings you mention. Play a sport, even a light one, go for long
walks, take aerobics, whatever. Just put yourself in motion. You
don't need to be a great physical specimen to benefit mentally from a
little exercise. Other than that, seek counseling.
Even better, choose a team sport: football, soccer, rugby, frisbee or
korfball (one of the few mixed team sports) or whatever. Also you can take
lessons with a group for some sport like atletics, wallclimbing, martial
arts, (table)-tennis, or fitness. It is always easy conversation with
teammates/fellow students. You always have at least one thing in common.
Good luck to metaperson,
Greetings,
Arjen Klaver
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| User: "Young, Free and British without breasts" |
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| Title: Re: A question to everyone |
30 Oct 2003 07:47:44 AM |
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I have been going through something similar myself. I have found
myself alone in the house between *cough* jobs and found myself
utterly lonely and bored.
Once you've had your pot noodle and wank, and finished your Hancockian
sighing and moaning, the first thing you need to do is find some
decent company cos god knows theres feck all around the living room. A
single close friend can enrich your live by far.
Don't kill yourself. Try writing a novel or something. Especially if
you're no good at it. It'll keep you occupied and amused for hours,
especially if it's a comedy.
Or you could just hang out with us on usenet, which is not really a
geekish was to spend time anymore than writing letters or chatting on
the phone.
At least concentrate on relieving your life of actual problems or
challenges, and then use your neutral "square one" status to stand
back and rejoice at your freedom from burden and then take pleasure in
using your imagination on how to act according to your choice.
--
Iain
"metaperson" <metaperson@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message news:<bno86g$6tf$6@gavrilo.mtu.ru>...
Hi,
I find myself in some kind of an unpleasant state of mind: my life is dull
and uninteresting... I don't see how do I want to spend the time of my life.
Who knows, maybe if I ask a lot of people about what is most important to
them in their life, I'll find an answer for myself. They say, enthusiasm is
infectious.
At least, such kind of action seems to bring more hope than just sitting
around alt.support.depression or alt.support.loneliness.
(And besides, I like talking to people. A few days ago, before getting
access to the net, I was in a much worse state - I was going crazy.)
So, here is my question: what are you enthusiastic about?
Or what justifies the value of life for you?
Metaperson.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: A question to everyone |
29 Oct 2003 12:41:27 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:09:22 +0300, a stranger
called by some "metaperson" <metaperson@mtu-net.ru> came forth and
told this tale in alt.atheism
So, here is my question: what are you enthusiastic about?
Or what justifies the value of life for you?
As a cancer survivor, the sheer jot of being alive gets me going.
Sure, I have bad days, but I could have dead in 1995.
Enthusiastic? Man, you want the list?
Biking
San Francisco sports
My marriage
The San Jose Police Department is hiring dispatchers
I might have a new writing contract.
I'm learning (slowly) to cook.
A friend from Australia is visiting next spring, and wants to see a
baseball game..
There are many more. Joy is where you find it.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Mark Richardson" |
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| Title: Re: A question to everyone |
29 Oct 2003 06:39:20 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:09:22 +0300, "metaperson"
<metaperson@mtu-net.ru> wrote:
Hi,
I find myself in some kind of an unpleasant state of mind: my life is dull
and uninteresting... I don't see how do I want to spend the time of my life.
Who knows, maybe if I ask a lot of people about what is most important to
them in their life, I'll find an answer for myself. They say, enthusiasm is
infectious.
At least, such kind of action seems to bring more hope than just sitting
around alt.support.depression or alt.support.loneliness.
(And besides, I like talking to people. A few days ago, before getting
access to the net, I was in a much worse state - I was going crazy.)
So, here is my question: what are you enthusiastic about?
Nature - go for a walk where there are living things.
Breathe the air.
Or what justifies the value of life for you?
I have a son - his laughter alone makes life worth living.
Mark.
--
Mark Richardson mDOTrichardsonATutasDOTeduDOTau
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
(Sarcastic Middle aged Atheists with a Sense of Humour)
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: A question to everyone |
30 Oct 2003 10:50:19 AM |
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:09:22 +0300, metaperson wrote:
Hi,
I find myself in some kind of an unpleasant state of mind: my life is
dull and uninteresting... I don't see how do I want to spend the time of
my life.
Who knows, maybe if I ask a lot of people about what is most important to
them in their life, I'll find an answer for myself. They say, enthusiasm
is infectious.
At least, such kind of action seems to bring more hope than just sitting
around alt.support.depression or alt.support.loneliness. (And besides, I
like talking to people. A few days ago, before getting access to the net,
I was in a much worse state - I was going crazy.)
So, here is my question: what are you enthusiastic about? Or what
justifies the value of life for you?
Metaperson.
The Internet, wonderful as it is, is no substitute for getting out and
meeting with people face-to-face. We live in very interesting, dynamic
times. If depression is keeping you from enjoying life, get treated. It
is treatable, and very common. Then, decide what interests you, find
other people with similar interests, and go at it.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Mike Ruskai" |
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| Title: Re: A question to everyone |
29 Oct 2003 08:36:32 AM |
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:09:22 +0300, metaperson wrote:
I find myself in some kind of an unpleasant state of mind: my life is dull
and uninteresting... I don't see how do I want to spend the time of my life.
Who knows, maybe if I ask a lot of people about what is most important to
them in their life, I'll find an answer for myself. They say, enthusiasm is
infectious.
At least, such kind of action seems to bring more hope than just sitting
around alt.support.depression or alt.support.loneliness.
(And besides, I like talking to people. A few days ago, before getting
access to the net, I was in a much worse state - I was going crazy.)
So, here is my question: what are you enthusiastic about?
Or what justifies the value of life for you?
Finding value in life is not something that is naturally difficult. You
should consult a doctor about the possibility of requiring
anti-depressants to put your brain chemistry back in order (as well as
today's pharmaceuticals can manage it, anyway).
--
- Mike
Remove 'spambegone.net' and reverse to send e-mail.
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| User: "Adam Marczyk" |
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| Title: Re: A question to everyone |
29 Oct 2003 06:06:42 PM |
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metaperson <metaperson@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message
news:bno86g$6tf$6@gavrilo.mtu.ru...
Hi,
I find myself in some kind of an unpleasant state of mind: my life is
dull and uninteresting... I don't see how do I want to spend the time of
my life.
Who knows, maybe if I ask a lot of people about what is most important to
them in their life, I'll find an answer for myself. They say, enthusiasm
is infectious.
At least, such kind of action seems to bring more hope than just sitting
around alt.support.depression or alt.support.loneliness.
(And besides, I like talking to people. A few days ago, before getting
access to the net, I was in a much worse state - I was going crazy.)
So, here is my question: what are you enthusiastic about?
Or what justifies the value of life for you?
Coincidentally, I just posted an article on this very topic on my website:
http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/findingbeauty.html
--
"We have loved the stars too fondly | a.a. #2001
to be fearful of the night." | http://www.ebonmusings.org
--Tombstone epitaph of | e-mail: ebonmuse!hotmail.com
two amateur astronomers, | ICQ: 8777843
quoted in Carl Sagan's _Cosmos_ | PGP Key ID: 0x5C66F737
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| User: "Mark Richardson" |
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29 Oct 2003 07:05:02 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:06:42 GMT, "Adam Marczyk"
<ebonmuse@deletethis.hotmail.com> wrote:
metaperson <metaperson@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message
news:bno86g$6tf$6@gavrilo.mtu.ru...
Hi,
I find myself in some kind of an unpleasant state of mind: my life is
dull and uninteresting... I don't see how do I want to spend the time of
my life.
<snip>
So, here is my question: what are you enthusiastic about?
Or what justifies the value of life for you?
Coincidentally, I just posted an article on this very topic on my website:
http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/findingbeauty.html
Excellent essay Adam!
I find so much good stuff on your website.
Well done!
8-)
(Of all the "atheist" websites on the web yours is constistenlty in my
top 5, along with :
internet infidels http://www.infidels.org/
talk origins http://www.talkorigins.org/
Jim Huber http://www.jhuger.com/
Adrian Barnett http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/index.html
)
Mark.
--
Mark Richardson mDOTrichardsonATutasDOTeduDOTau
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
(Sarcastic Middle aged Atheists with a Sense of Humour)
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| User: "Adam Marczyk" |
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29 Oct 2003 10:57:53 PM |
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Mark Richardson <mark.richardson@die.spammers.die> wrote in message
news:vrn0qvol3qc123kfoiu20u53alqk8bitm5@4ax.com...
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 00:06:42 GMT, "Adam Marczyk"
<ebonmuse@deletethis.hotmail.com> wrote:
metaperson <metaperson@mtu-net.ru> wrote in message
news:bno86g$6tf$6@gavrilo.mtu.ru...
Hi,
I find myself in some kind of an unpleasant state of mind: my life is
dull and uninteresting... I don't see how do I want to spend the time
of my life.
<snip>
So, here is my question: what are you enthusiastic about?
Or what justifies the value of life for you?
Coincidentally, I just posted an article on this very topic on my
website: http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/findingbeauty.html
Excellent essay Adam!
I find so much good stuff on your website.
Well done!
8-)
(Of all the "atheist" websites on the web yours is constistenlty in my
top 5, along with :
internet infidels http://www.infidels.org/
talk origins http://www.talkorigins.org/
Jim Huber http://www.jhuger.com/
Adrian Barnett http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/index.html
)
Thanks! :) And my website is updated more often than just about any of
those. ;)
--
"We have loved the stars too fondly | a.a. #2001
to be fearful of the night." | http://www.ebonmusings.org
--Tombstone epitaph of | e-mail: ebonmuse!hotmail.com
two amateur astronomers, | ICQ: 8777843
quoted in Carl Sagan's _Cosmos_ | PGP Key ID: 0x5C66F737
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| User: "mlw" |
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29 Oct 2003 07:13:56 AM |
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metaperson wrote:
Hi,
I find myself in some kind of an unpleasant state of mind: my life is
dull and uninteresting... I don't see how do I want to spend the time of
my life.
Who knows, maybe if I ask a lot of people about what is most important to
them in their life, I'll find an answer for myself. They say, enthusiasm
is infectious.
At least, such kind of action seems to bring more hope than just sitting
around alt.support.depression or alt.support.loneliness.
(And besides, I like talking to people. A few days ago, before getting
access to the net, I was in a much worse state - I was going crazy.)
So, here is my question: what are you enthusiastic about?
Or what justifies the value of life for you?
Metaperson.
Seriously, the age old question, has never been answered. You are looking at
life the wrong way, completely.
You can not ever know the meaning of life. Accept it. Many people will tell
you they know, but they don't. I'm more of a "Great Mystery" person, I
accept that life is a mystery. Did it happen with or without a god? Who
knows? Sure enough, we'll know when we die, but since there is probably
nothing after life, why rush?
While the greater truth about the meaning of life may be without answer,
there are things you can do to give your life meaning.
Try to make some friends. It is scary, but hey, if you are thinking of
suicide, surely making a fool of yourself is better than death. Think about
it, "Dance like an idiot, or I kill you." See, dancing is better than
death, i.e. dancing is better than suicide.
Seriously, everyone needs some friends, and almost everyone has them. Most
of the time depressed people are a bit aloof, too afraid to live. Life is
messy, be foolish, have fun. Your friends do want to hear from you. Try not
to focus on all the bad things, but focus on some fun for a change. No one
wants to know about your problems all the time, sometimes they want to hang
out, have a beer, and watch the game.
Wait until the next sunny day, go for a walk. Close your eyes and face the
sun. I guarantee you will not feel depressed.
Go to the humor section of the book store, buy a non-political funny book.
(Politics can be depressing).
Get involved in your family, almost everyone has family, visit a sister,
brother, cousin. Mend breaks in the family. Send flowers to someone.
There are no answers for the things that trouble us. Many will never go
away. Remember the things that trouble us do not deserve 100% of our
attention. The things that make us better deserve attention too, just as
much, if not more.
If you are depressed, don't focus on being depressed. Think of something
you'd like to do or learn. Start small. Accept failure at first. What ever
you do, remember, focusing on depression only makes it worse. When you feel
depressed, work out, go for a walk, do situps, anything to change your
mindset.
When you feel depressed, it is hard to image ever feeling "not depressed."
So, don't aim for well. Aim for better. Just a little better, that's all.
Serious depression is never cured over night, so don't expect it to be.
Don't be dissappointed when some miraculous cure doesn't happen, because it
doesn't happen.
It takes a good long time to get over deep depression, you have to relearn
how to focus your idle thoughts. Just learn to recognize when you feel
down. When you do, do something positive.
I lost a friend to suicide, he never said anything was wrong. No note, no
nothing, just the news the next day. Maybe if he had just said something,
you know?
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: A question to everyone |
29 Oct 2003 06:18:58 PM |
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metaperson wrote:
Hi,
I find myself in some kind of an unpleasant state of mind: my life is dull
and uninteresting... I don't see how do I want to spend the time of my life.
Who knows, maybe if I ask a lot of people about what is most important to
them in their life, I'll find an answer for myself. They say, enthusiasm is
infectious.
The most important thing in my life ............ hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Easy, it is life.
The simply amazing things of life. The way the sun comes up when I need
to be on the move, the way it goes down when I tired at night. The way
a leaf grows. Magic and wonder. Every time you pick up a hand full of
dust, and see not the dust, but a miracle, a marvel there in you hand.
Every time you say to yourself, "I'm alive, and being alive is
fantastic.". Every time one of these and countless others happen,
that's the most important thing in my life.
At least, such kind of action seems to bring more hope than just sitting
around alt.support.depression or alt.support.loneliness.
(And besides, I like talking to people. A few days ago, before getting
access to the net, I was in a much worse state - I was going crazy.)
So, here is my question: what are you enthusiastic about?
Or what justifies the value of life for you?
Metaperson.
Other then what's listed above:
The touch of my wife
The laugh of my son
The purr of my cat
My dog on the run
Clean sheets on my bed at night
Hot coffee in the morning light
Hugs and kisses, friendly touch
Books and wine, though not to much.
Rain in the spring, sun in the summer
Colors of fall and a cold winter shudder
A star filled night, so I can gaze in wonder
I say to myself, it my life, I'd have no other.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 ULC Minister
Home School Educator for Computer Science
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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