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"Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced" |
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26 Sep 2003 04:56:38 PM |
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A red state turns blue |
"Barely one-third of Arizona voters say they would give President
Bush a second term, a statewide poll revealed Thursday."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0925bush-poll-ON.html
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The search for static security--in the law and elsewhere--is
misguided. The fact is security can only be achieved through constant
change, adapting old ideas that have outlived their usefulness to
current facts."
--Justice William O. Douglas
Tim
"Fair and Balanced"
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| User: "gk" |
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| Title: Re: A red state turns blue |
29 Sep 2003 12:52:37 PM |
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"Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced" <tim@somecallme.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9402985F9EE13timsomecallme@216.168.3.44...
"Barely one-third of Arizona voters say they would give President
Bush a second term, a statewide poll revealed Thursday."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0925bush-poll-ON.html
You sure wouldn't know it by listening to talk radio in Phoenix.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: A red state turns blue |
29 Sep 2003 12:59:39 PM |
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gk wrote:
"Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced" <tim@somecallme.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9402985F9EE13timsomecallme@216.168.3.44...
"Barely one-third of Arizona voters say they would give President
Bush a second term, a statewide poll revealed Thursday."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0925bush-poll-ON.html
You sure wouldn't know it by listening to talk radio in Phoenix.
What's interesting is that no "specified" Democrat comes close to
"Unspecified" versus Bush.
--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "Clave" |
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| Title: Re: A red state turns blue |
29 Sep 2003 02:24:41 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:vngso3of2n4a7@news.supernews.com...
gk wrote:
"Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced" <tim@somecallme.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9402985F9EE13timsomecallme@216.168.3.44...
"Barely one-third of Arizona voters say they would give President
Bush a second term, a statewide poll revealed Thursday."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0925bush-poll-ON.html
You sure wouldn't know it by listening to talk radio in Phoenix.
What's interesting is that no "specified" Democrat comes close to
"Unspecified" versus Bush.
Wrong.
Bush's Opponent Opp. % Bush %
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Clark 49 46
Kerry 48 47
Gephardt 46 48
Lieberman 47 48
Dean 46 49
His other numbers continue to free-fall:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/polls/tables/live/2003-09-22-bush-poll.htm
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: A red state turns blue |
29 Sep 2003 03:03:51 PM |
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Clave wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:vngso3of2n4a7@news.supernews.com...
gk wrote:
"Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced" <tim@somecallme.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9402985F9EE13timsomecallme@216.168.3.44...
"Barely one-third of Arizona voters say they would give President
Bush a second term, a statewide poll revealed Thursday."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0925bush-poll-ON.html
You sure wouldn't know it by listening to talk radio in Phoenix.
What's interesting is that no "specified" Democrat comes close to
"Unspecified" versus Bush.
Wrong.
Bush's Opponent Opp. % Bush %
=============== ====== ======
Clark 49 46
Kerry 48 47
Gephardt 46 48
Lieberman 47 48
Dean 46 49
Thanks for proving my point. None of those are close to two-thirds%.
--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "Clave" |
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| Title: Re: A red state turns blue |
29 Sep 2003 03:15:27 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:vnh410cd2eca90@news.supernews.com...
Clave wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:vngso3of2n4a7@news.supernews.com...
gk wrote:
"Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced" <tim@somecallme.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9402985F9EE13timsomecallme@216.168.3.44...
"Barely one-third of Arizona voters say they would give President
Bush a second term, a statewide poll revealed Thursday."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0925bush-poll-ON.html
You sure wouldn't know it by listening to talk radio in Phoenix.
What's interesting is that no "specified" Democrat comes close to
"Unspecified" versus Bush.
Wrong.
Bush's Opponent Opp. % Bush %
=============== ====== ======
Clark 49 46
Kerry 48 47
Gephardt 46 48
Lieberman 47 48
Dean 46 49
Thanks for proving my point. None of those are close to two-thirds%.
Statistically, 50% isn't all *that* far from 66%. Quibble if you must.
Hardly matters anyway, a loss is a loss, whether it's by 2% or by 30%.
Jim
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: A red state turns blue |
29 Sep 2003 03:48:59 PM |
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Clave wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:vnh410cd2eca90@news.supernews.com...
Clave wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:vngso3of2n4a7@news.supernews.com...
gk wrote:
"Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced" <tim@somecallme.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9402985F9EE13timsomecallme@216.168.3.44...
"Barely one-third of Arizona voters say they would give President
Bush a second term, a statewide poll revealed Thursday."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0925bush-poll-ON.html
You sure wouldn't know it by listening to talk radio in Phoenix.
What's interesting is that no "specified" Democrat comes close to
"Unspecified" versus Bush.
Wrong.
Bush's Opponent Opp. % Bush %
=============== ====== ======
Clark 49 46
Kerry 48 47
Gephardt 46 48
Lieberman 47 48
Dean 46 49
Thanks for proving my point. None of those are close to two-thirds%.
Statistically, 50% isn't all *that* far from 66%. Quibble if you must.
That "quibble" is my whole point. "Somebody unspecified" gets 16 points
more support than any particular Democrat. That's a HUGE swing vote,
considering the margin in 2000.
Hardly matters anyway, a loss is a loss, whether it's by 2% or by 30%.
2% is within the statistical error of a poll like this.
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Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "Clave" |
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| Title: Re: A red state turns blue |
29 Sep 2003 03:52:30 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:vnh6lj89a3q28d@news.supernews.com...
Clave wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:vnh410cd2eca90@news.supernews.com...
Clave wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:vngso3of2n4a7@news.supernews.com...
gk wrote:
"Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced" <tim@somecallme.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9402985F9EE13timsomecallme@216.168.3.44...
"Barely one-third of Arizona voters say they would give President
Bush a second term, a statewide poll revealed Thursday."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0925bush-poll-ON.html
You sure wouldn't know it by listening to talk radio in Phoenix.
What's interesting is that no "specified" Democrat comes close to
"Unspecified" versus Bush.
Wrong.
Bush's Opponent Opp. % Bush %
=============== ====== ======
Clark 49 46
Kerry 48 47
Gephardt 46 48
Lieberman 47 48
Dean 46 49
Thanks for proving my point. None of those are close to two-thirds%.
Statistically, 50% isn't all *that* far from 66%. Quibble if you must.
That "quibble" is my whole point. "Somebody unspecified" gets 16 points
more support than any particular Democrat. That's a HUGE swing vote,
considering the margin in 2000.
Sorry, I guess I wasn't quite able to read your frickin' mind and determine what
you consider "close".
Hardly matters anyway, a loss is a loss, whether it's by 2% or by 30%.
2% is within the statistical error of a poll like this.
So what?
Jim
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| User: "Al_Lien proud_liberal2003ATyahoo.com" |
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| Title: Re: A red state turns blue |
29 Sep 2003 01:21:14 PM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:vngso3of2n4a7@news.supernews.com:
gk wrote:
"Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced" <tim@somecallme.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9402985F9EE13timsomecallme@216.168.3.44...
"Barely one-third of Arizona voters say they would give President
Bush a second term, a statewide poll revealed Thursday."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0925bush-poll-ON.html
You sure wouldn't know it by listening to talk radio in Phoenix.
What's interesting is that no "specified" Democrat comes close to
"Unspecified" versus Bush.
"Anyone But Bush"
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http://www.geocities.com/proud_liberal2003/
http://www.conservativesagainstbush.com/
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: A red state turns blue |
29 Sep 2003 01:43:17 PM |
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Al_Lien wrote:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:vngso3of2n4a7@news.supernews.com:
gk wrote:
"Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced" <tim@somecallme.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9402985F9EE13timsomecallme@216.168.3.44...
"Barely one-third of Arizona voters say they would give President
Bush a second term, a statewide poll revealed Thursday."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0925bush-poll-ON.html
You sure wouldn't know it by listening to talk radio in Phoenix.
What's interesting is that no "specified" Democrat comes close to
"Unspecified" versus Bush.
"Anyone But Bush"
More like "Someone else besides Bush, but not any of the current crop of
Democrats".
--
Fred Stone
Conquering the Galaxy since 2003
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| User: "Sean C" |
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| Title: Re: A red state turns blue |
26 Sep 2003 11:12:35 PM |
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In article <Xns9402985F9EE13timsomecallme@216.168.3.44>, Patriotboy is
Fair and Balanced <tim@somecallme.net> wrote:
"Barely one-third of Arizona voters say they would give President
Bush a second term, a statewide poll revealed Thursday."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0925bush-poll-ON.html
Bush is just a figurehead. Would they give some other corporate ***** a
chance to pick up where Bush left off? That is the real question. If
not, maybe there is hope for the American people after all.
Sean C
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| User: "Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced" |
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| Title: Re: A red state turns blue |
27 Sep 2003 12:16:42 AM |
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On 26 Sep 2003, Sean C <redhawk@hvc.rr.com> posted this:
n article <Xns9402985F9EE13timsomecallme@216.168.3.44>,
Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced <tim@somecallme.net> wrote:
"Barely one-third of Arizona voters say they would give
President Bush a second term, a statewide poll revealed
Thursday."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0925bush-poll-ON.html
Bush is just a figurehead. Would they give some other corporate
***** a chance to pick up where Bush left off? That is the real
question. If not, maybe there is hope for the American people
after all.
MWO points out that Bush is as popular in Arizona as Saddam is in
Baghdad.
http://www.mediawhoresonline.com/
"Bush Support in AZ on par with Saddam's in Baghdad
'Barely one-third of Arizona voters say they would give President
Bush a second term, a statewide poll revealed Thursday.
The 34 percent support for his re-election, with 44 percent
preferring someone else and 22 percent undecided, reflects a dramatic
plunge in popularity for Bush. In 2000, he beat Al Gore in Arizona by
a margin of 6 percentage points, or nearly 100,000 votes of 1.5
million cast.'
Story http://tinyurl.com/oq53
'(AP) The [Gallup] survey found that 62 percent think ousting Saddam
was worth the hardships they have endured since the invasion. In the
five months since coalition forces defeated Saddam and his armies,
Iraq has faced continuing violence, electrical outages, job shortages
and civil unrest.'
[http://tinyurl.com/ougt]"
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"If the administration said the Earth was flat, Fox News would say
that the Earth was flat, and anyone who said otherwise hates America.
The rest of the media would say 'Shape of the Earth-- Views Differ.'
And quote one Democrat saying that the Earth was round."
--Paul Krugman
Tim
"Fair and Balanced"
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| User: "beber" |
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| Title: Re: A red state turns blue |
27 Sep 2003 09:07:47 AM |
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:56:38 -0000, Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced
<tim@somecallme.net> wrote:
"Barely one-third of Arizona voters say they would give President
Bush a second term, a statewide poll revealed Thursday."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0925bush-poll-ON.html
If Kansas turns Blue he's in trouble.
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| User: "MHirtes" |
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| Title: Re: A red state turns blue |
27 Sep 2003 11:01:51 PM |
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In article <0d6bnv43oe11nlr0algu9iaabpukhom21j@4ax.com>,
beber <beber@media-net.net> wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:56:38 -0000, Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced
<tim@somecallme.net> wrote:
"Barely one-third of Arizona voters say they would give President
Bush a second term, a statewide poll revealed Thursday."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0925bush-poll-ON.html
If Kansas turns Blue he's in trouble.
"Better Dead Than Red" takes on a whole new meaning lately.
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: A red state turns blue |
28 Sep 2003 10:53:43 AM |
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MHirtes wrote:
In article <0d6bnv43oe11nlr0algu9iaabpukhom21j@4ax.com>,
beber <beber@media-net.net> wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:56:38 -0000, Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced
<tim@somecallme.net> wrote:
"Barely one-third of Arizona voters say they would give President
Bush a second term, a statewide poll revealed Thursday."
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0925bush-poll-ON.html
If Kansas turns Blue he's in trouble.
"Better Dead Than Red" takes on a whole new meaning lately.
The actual poll that was done on azcentral.com, a sub of The Arizona
Republic, showed about the same numbers. When I hit the poll, it was
over 53% that do not support the "son of a bush" bid for another 4 years.
And that was when the poll opened, and had less then 500 responses.
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 ULC Minister
Home School Educator for Computer Science
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "Patriotboy is Fair and Balanced" |
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28 Sep 2003 12:37:39 PM |
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On 28 Sep 2003, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@yahoo.com> posted
this:
The actual poll that was done on azcentral.com, a sub of The
Arizona Republic, showed about the same numbers. When I hit the
poll, it was over 53% that do not support the "son of a bush"
bid for another 4 years.
And that was when the poll opened, and had less then 500
responses.
Read the article. It was a real poll, not an on-line poll.
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0925bush-poll-ON.html
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"The dominant purpose of the First Amendment was to prohibit the
widespread practice of government suppression of embarrassing
information."
--Justice William O. Douglas
Tim
"Fair and Balanced"
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