Religions > Atheism > A Refutaiton of Creationist Lies Regarding The Evils of Evolution
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27 Aug 2007 05:01:59 PM |
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A Refutaiton of Creationist Lies Regarding The Evils of Evolution |
Hector Avalos, professor of religious studies at Iowa State University
has mounted a devastating response to those creationists who are
spreading lies abut what "Darwinism" (whatever that is) and evolution
are "responsible for":
http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Genocide.cfm
Budikka
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| User: "David V." |
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| Title: Re: A Refutaiton of Creationist Lies Regarding The Evils of Evolution |
27 Aug 2007 08:24:07 PM |
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Budikka666 wrote:
Hector Avalos, professor of religious studies at Iowa State
University has mounted a devastating response to those
creationists who are spreading lies abut what "Darwinism"
(whatever that is) and evolution are "responsible for":
It won't do a damn thing. These people will listen to their
preacher, not reason. No amount of scientific proof will sway
them from their psychotic hold on creationism.
If their best argument is; "It's just a theory," then you know
there's more going and an intelligent discourse with them is
impossible. You can't teach a pig to sing.
--
Dave
"Sacred cows make the best hamburger." Mark Twain.
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| User: "Pt. Lurk Pt." |
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| Title: Re: A Refutaiton of Creationist Lies Regarding The Evils of Evolution |
27 Aug 2007 09:59:50 PM |
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"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pIOdncGLtsen5E7bnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@sti.net...
Budikka666 wrote:
Hector Avalos, professor of religious studies at Iowa State University
has mounted a devastating response to those creationists who are
spreading lies abut what "Darwinism" (whatever that is) and evolution are
"responsible for":
It won't do a damn thing. These people will listen to their
preacher, not reason. No amount of scientific proof will sway
them from their psychotic hold on creationism.
If their best argument is; "It's just a theory," then you know
there's more going and an intelligent discourse with them is
impossible. You can't teach a pig to sing.
We're not actually trying to teach pigs to sing. We're trying -- if I may
retain your imagery -- to get pigs to become less confident about their
singing, more worried about being ridiculed for their singing, less able to
force their singing on other pigs' children, less likely to try and sing
while others wish to speak, etc, etc...
L.
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| User: "David V." |
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| Title: Re: A Refutaiton of Creationist Lies Regarding The Evils of Evolution |
27 Aug 2007 10:32:10 PM |
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Pt. Lurk wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pIOdncGLtsen5E7bnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@sti.net...
Budikka666 wrote:
Hector Avalos, professor of religious studies at Iowa
State University has mounted a devastating response to
those creationists who are spreading lies abut what
"Darwinism" (whatever that is) and evolution are
"responsible for":
It won't do a damn thing. These people will listen to their
preacher, not reason. No amount of scientific proof will
sway them from their psychotic hold on creationism.
If their best argument is; "It's just a theory," then you
know there's more going and an intelligent discourse with
them is impossible. You can't teach a pig to sing.
We're not actually trying to teach pigs to sing. We're trying
-- if I may retain your imagery -- to get pigs to become less
confident about their singing, more worried about being
ridiculed for their singing, less able to force their singing
on other pigs' children, less likely to try and sing while
others wish to speak, etc, etc...
But you are expecting too much from a pig. They are too confident
in their beliefs, too confident to the point they automatically
reject anything that does not 100% support their god beliefs.
They are not worried about being ridiculed for their ignorance -
they take it with pride. They are proud to be morons. As I like
to say, their ignorance is supported by their arrogance.
You got one thing right - we must keep them from spreading their
ignorance to our children.
--
Dave
"Sacred cows make the best hamburger." Mark Twain.
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: A Refutaiton of Creationist Lies Regarding The Evils of Evolution |
28 Aug 2007 04:16:41 PM |
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On Aug 27, 10:32 pm, "David V." <s...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Pt. Lurk wrote:
"David V." <s...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pIOdncGLtsen5E7bnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@sti.net...
Budikka666 wrote:
Hector Avalos, professor of religious studies at Iowa
State University has mounted a devastating response to
those creationists who are spreading lies abut what
"Darwinism" (whatever that is) and evolution are
"responsible for":
It won't do a damn thing. These people will listen to their
preacher, not reason. No amount of scientific proof will
sway them from their psychotic hold on creationism.
If their best argument is; "It's just a theory," then you
know there's more going and an intelligent discourse with
them is impossible. You can't teach a pig to sing.
We're not actually trying to teach pigs to sing. We're trying
-- if I may retain your imagery -- to get pigs to become less
confident about their singing, more worried about being
ridiculed for their singing, less able to force their singing
on other pigs' children, less likely to try and sing while
others wish to speak, etc, etc...
But you are expecting too much from a pig. They are too confident
in their beliefs, too confident to the point they automatically
reject anything that does not 100% support their god beliefs.
They are not worried about being ridiculed for their ignorance -
they take it with pride. They are proud to be morons. As I like
to say, their ignorance is supported by their arrogance.
You got one thing right - we must keep them from spreading their
ignorance to our children.
--
Dave
"Sacred cows make the best hamburger." Mark Twain.
Before you make any more bacon out of this porcine metaphor, you both
have a point. On the one hand there are wa-ay too many of them who
will never change their minds, but that's not why I do this. I do
this for the next generation which is always more important than the
present one (within reason!). For that very reason, we must keep
chipping away at their asinine beliefs, and we must fight them tooth
and nail to prevent their religion taking over the schools. The more
armament we can bring to bear on this, the better.
They will lose eventually. It's inevitable. It's not going to be in
our lifetime, but that's no reason to give up.
Budikka
Budikka
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| User: "David V." |
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| Title: Re: A Refutaiton of Creationist Lies Regarding The Evils of Evolution |
28 Aug 2007 09:06:36 PM |
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Budikka666 wrote:
Before you make any more bacon out of this porcine metaphor,
you both have a point. On the one hand there are wa-ay too
many of them who will never change their minds, but that's not
why I do this. I do this for the next generation which is
always more important than the present one (within reason!).
For that very reason, we must keep chipping away at their
asinine beliefs, and we must fight them tooth and nail to
prevent their religion taking over the schools. The more
armament we can bring to bear on this, the better.
They will lose eventually. It's inevitable. It's not going
to be in our lifetime, but that's no reason to give up.
That's why we must keep them out of our schools.
--
Dave
"Sacred cows make the best hamburger." Mark Twain.
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| User: "meg" |
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| Title: Re: A Refutaiton of Creationist Lies Regarding The Evils of Evolution |
28 Aug 2007 04:00:46 PM |
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On Aug 27, 8:32 pm, "David V." <s...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Pt. Lurk wrote:
"David V." <s...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pIOdncGLtsen5E7bnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@sti.net...
Budikka666 wrote:
Hector Avalos, professor of religious studies at Iowa
State University has mounted a devastating response to
those creationists who are spreading lies abut what
"Darwinism" (whatever that is) and evolution are
"responsible for":
It won't do a damn thing. These people will listen to their
preacher, not reason. No amount of scientific proof will
sway them from their psychotic hold on creationism.
If their best argument is; "It's just a theory," then you
know there's more going and an intelligent discourse with
them is impossible. You can't teach a pig to sing.
We're not actually trying to teach pigs to sing. We're trying
-- if I may retain your imagery -- to get pigs to become less
confident about their singing, more worried about being
ridiculed for their singing, less able to force their singing
on other pigs' children, less likely to try and sing while
others wish to speak, etc, etc...
But you are expecting too much from a pig. They are too confident
in their beliefs, too confident to the point they automatically
reject anything that does not 100% support their god beliefs.
They are not worried about being ridiculed for their ignorance -
they take it with pride. They are proud to be morons. As I like
to say, their ignorance is supported by their arrogance.
You got one thing right - we must keep them from spreading their
ignorance to our children.
--
Dave
"Sacred cows make the best hamburger." Mark Twain.
Belief in the hereafter makes death less permanent and thus more
acceptable.
I think if 'dying is such a wonderful thing, if your a Christian of
course, than we should send the Christians to Iraq and one devout
believer can kill the other to prove their god is better, or maybe
their version of the same god or =B7 =B7 =B7
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| User: "David V." |
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| Title: Re: A Refutaiton of Creationist Lies Regarding The Evils of Evolution |
28 Aug 2007 09:05:25 PM |
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meg wrote:
Belief in the hereafter makes death less permanent and thus
more acceptable.
It's such a bizarre concept that I cannot help but believe they
know they're fooling themselves.
I think if 'dying is such a wonderful thing, if your a
Christian of course, than we should send the Christians to
Iraq and one devout believer can kill the other to prove their
god is better, or maybe their version of the same god or · ·
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I agree - it's their holy war, let them go fight it. Bush should
send his daughters, the Army will take people with drug offenses now.
--
Dave
"Sacred cows make the best hamburger." Mark Twain.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: A Refutaiton of Creationist Lies Regarding The Evils of Evolution |
27 Aug 2007 06:42:26 PM |
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In article <1188252119.152522.242730@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
Hector Avalos, professor of religious studies at Iowa State University
has mounted a devastating response to those creationists who are
spreading lies abut what "Darwinism" (whatever that is) and evolution
are "responsible for":
http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Genocide.cfm
Budikka
Nice site. I have it bookmarked for future reference.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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