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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "IKnowHimDoYou"
Date: 11 May 2004 10:09:55 AM
Object: A Scientific Fact
A Scientific Fact
"And as it is appointed unto men once to die...."Hebrews 9:27
This is a scientific fact and we are all going to die one day. No one can
stay, all must go. Is there anyone who can deny this fact? Even if they
do they will eventually lay down their life and exit this world. The death
rate is always the same one to one it never changes and is repeated over
and over again everyday.
Now, if the statement in Hebrews above is a true and scientific fact do
you suppose that the second half of the statement is also true?
"but after this the judgement." Heb 9:27
Your opinion of these two statements will determine where you will be in
eternity.
Be careful how you allegorize the Word of God...
.

User: "Tom"

Title: Re: A Scientific Fact 11 May 2004 03:36:20 PM
"IKnowHimDoYou" <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IKnowHim-1105040809550001@pm3-04.kalama.com...

A Scientific Fact

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die...."Hebrews 9:27

This is a scientific fact and we are all going to die one day. No one can
stay, all must go. Is there anyone who can deny this fact? Even if they
do they will eventually lay down their life and exit this world. The death
rate is always the same one to one it never changes and is repeated over
and over again everyday.

Now, if the statement in Hebrews above is a true and scientific fact do
you suppose that the second half of the statement is also true?

"but after this the judgement." Heb 9:27

Your opinion of these two statements will determine where you will be in
eternity.

Be careful how you allegorize the Word of God...

This be the king of non sequitur's.
.

User: "bogie"

Title: Re: A Scientific Fact 11 May 2004 10:17:58 AM
"IKnowHimDoYou" <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IKnowHim-1105040809550001@pm3-04.kalama.com...

A Scientific Fact

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die...."Hebrews 9:27

This is a scientific fact and we are all going to die one day. No one can
stay, all must go. Is there anyone who can deny this fact? Even if they
do they will eventually lay down their life and exit this world. The death
rate is always the same one to one it never changes and is repeated over
and over again everyday.

No argument from me.


Now, if the statement in Hebrews above is a true and scientific fact do
you suppose that the second half of the statement is also true?

"but after this the judgement." Heb 9:27

Nope. Why should I? I have evidence of the first part. People die all the
time. I have no evidence for the second part. If it was that important to
god, then surely he would have given ample evidence of this event.
Are you saying that because the first half of this verse is true, then the
second half must be also? Well, that's like saying, "The sun will come up
tomorrow, and after that Elvis will appear in my breakfast nook." Would you
make the same assumption with that statement? You wouldn't? Then how can
you expect me to make such an assumption about this bible verse?


Your opinion of these two statements will determine where you will be in
eternity.

Wait. I thought your god determined that (john 6:44). It all depends upon
my opinion?
Make up your mind.


Be careful how you allegorize the Word of God...

Oh stop it.
bogie
.

User: "New Player"

Title: Re: A Scientific Fact 11 May 2004 11:23:41 PM
*****, I didn't know I had to read the bible to find out I'm going to die one
day.
Your good book hasn't taught you which end to stick into the toilet bowl and
all the crap just ends up here.
--
--
"Whether it's god or the bomb,
It's just the same,
It's only fear under another name."
Max Q.
IKnowHimDoYou wrote in message ...

A Scientific Fact

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die...."Hebrews 9:27

This is a scientific fact and we are all going to die one day. No one can
stay, all must go. Is there anyone who can deny this fact? Even if they
do they will eventually lay down their life and exit this world. The death
rate is always the same one to one it never changes and is repeated over
and over again everyday.

Now, if the statement in Hebrews above is a true and scientific fact do
you suppose that the second half of the statement is also true?

"but after this the judgement." Heb 9:27

Your opinion of these two statements will determine where you will be in
eternity.

Be careful how you allegorize the Word of God...

.

User: "Keenan Clay Wilkie"

Title: Re: A Scientific Fact 11 May 2004 02:06:43 PM
(IKnowHimDoYou) writes:

A Scientific Fact
"And as it is appointed unto men once to die...."Hebrews 9:27
This is a scientific fact and we are all going to die one day. No one can
stay, all must go. Is there anyone who can deny this fact? Even if they
do they will eventually lay down their life and exit this world. The death
rate is always the same one to one it never changes and is repeated over
and over again everyday.
Now, if the statement in Hebrews above is a true and scientific fact do
you suppose that the second half of the statement is also true?
"but after this the judgement." Heb 9:27
Your opinion of these two statements will determine where you will be in
eternity.
Be careful how you allegorize the Word of God...

Is there a reason that you decided to post this again? It wasn't any more
convincing the first time that you offered up this drivel.
We understand. You, "IKnowHimDoYou", hate Christianity. We get that.
You hate Christianity and the principles of it so much that you pretend to
be a Christian and do incredibly obnoxious things so that others will
associate your actions with Christianity and believe that all Christians
are as rude, arrogant and obnoxious as you.
We don't need you to make an ***** of yourself any more. We know that
you're not a Christian, but rather someone who hates Christianity and
Christ.

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User: "Woden"

Title: Re: A Scientific Fact 11 May 2004 10:33:16 AM
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote in
news:IKnowHim-1105040809550001@pm3-04.kalama.com:

A Scientific Fact

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die...."Hebrews 9:27

This is a scientific fact and we are all going to die one day.

Once again you demonstrate your lack of understanding of science. The
applicable scientific fact is that all the evidence we have shows
everyone who lived in the past died. The expectation (hypothesis) is
that the rest of us will eventually die at some future time.

No one
can stay, all must go. Is there anyone who can deny this fact? Even
if they do they will eventually lay down their life and exit this
world. The death rate is always the same one to one it never changes
and is repeated over and over again everyday.

Now, if the statement in Hebrews above is a true and scientific fact
do you suppose that the second half of the statement is also true?

"but after this the judgement." Heb 9:27

How the observation of death lead to this particular fable? There is no
correlation between the two.


Your opinion of these two statements will determine where you will be
in eternity.

Actually you don't know what will happen for eternity, you have a myth
that bears no relationship with reality.


Be careful how you allegorize the Word of God...

What word of "god"? All I ever ever seen is the word of men that fools
like you take seriously.
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
.

User: "Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th"

Title: Re: A Scientific Fact 11 May 2004 06:32:14 PM
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote in
news:IKnowHim-1105040809550001@pm3-04.kalama.com:

A Scientific Fact

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die...."Hebrews 9:27

This is a scientific fact and we are all going to die one day. No one
can stay, all must go. Is there anyone who can deny this fact? Even
if they do they will eventually lay down their life and exit this
world. The death rate is always the same one to one it never changes
and is repeated over and over again everyday.

It's a reasonable conclusion based on observation. Even primitive savages
and bronze age goat herders knew this.

Now, if the statement in Hebrews above is a true and scientific fact
do you suppose that the second half of the statement is also true?

"but after this the judgement." Heb 9:27

Dead on arrival. Without evidence this bit is an unsupported assertion.
Next case.
Klazmon.
<SNIP>
.

User: "Kenneth Doyle"

Title: Re: A Scientific Fact 11 May 2004 07:10:17 PM
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote in
news:IKnowHim-1105040809550001@pm3-04.kalama.com:

A Scientific Fact

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die...."Hebrews 9:27

This is a scientific fact...

No it's not. The fact is that everybody dies. The assumption that it's
"appointed unto" them to do so is the unscientific bit. How do we test
that assumption?
.

User: "sAnToLiNa"

Title: Re: A Scientific Fact 11 May 2004 10:12:27 PM
IKnowHimDoYou <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IKnowHim-1105040809550001@pm3-04.kalama.com...

A Scientific Fact

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die...."Hebrews 9:27

This is a scientific fact

No, Hebrews was not written as a scientific document.
.

User: "Josef Balluch"

Title: Re: A Scientific Fact 12 May 2004 07:41:41 PM
In a message sent 'round the world, IKnowHimDoYou poured fuel on the
fire with the following:

A Scientific Fact

This material was bogus the first time you posted it. Since you have
taken to recycling your previous nonsense then that firmly establishes
you as a Liar For Jesus.
....
Regards,
Josef
The continued utterance of a lie does not make it true, but it does
convince many that it is, particularly if you can squelch most efforts
to expose the lie.
--Shapley R. Hunter
.

User: "*nemo*"

Title: Re: A Scientific Fact 11 May 2004 06:47:19 PM
In article <IKnowHim-1105040809550001@pm3-04.kalama.com>,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:

A Scientific Fact

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die...."Hebrews 9:27

Wow. I'll bet no other religion that has ever existed was able to figure
that out! Got any other unique insights, brain-dead corpse-eater?
--
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User: "Silver Blaze"

Title: Re: A Scientific Fact 12 May 2004 05:39:45 PM
In article <IKnowHim-1105040809550001@pm3-04.kalama.com>,
IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com (IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:

A Scientific Fact

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die...."Hebrews 9:27

This is a scientific fact and we are all going to die one day. No one can
stay, all must go. Is there anyone who can deny this fact? Even if they
do they will eventually lay down their life and exit this world. The death
rate is always the same one to one it never changes and is repeated over
and over again everyday.

Now, if the statement in Hebrews above is a true and scientific fact do
you suppose that the second half of the statement is also true?

"but after this the judgement." Heb 9:27

Your opinion of these two statements will determine where you will be in
eternity.

Be careful how you allegorize the Word of God...

The concept of a post mortem judgement appears to have originated in
Ancient Egypt
Brandon wrote some very interesting chapters collectively known as "The
Judgement of the dead"
Out of print but often available in University libraries
Highly recommended
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: A Scientific Fact 11 May 2004 09:35:22 PM
On Tue, 11 May 2004 08:09:55 -0700 in episode
<IKnowHim-1105040809550001@pm3-04.kalama.com> we saw our hero
IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com (IKnowHimDoYou):

Now, if the statement in Hebrews above is a true and scientific fact do
you suppose that the second half of the statement is also true?

They have no demonstrated connection.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
.

User: "raven1"

Title: Re: A Scientific Fact 11 May 2004 03:12:27 PM
On Tue, 11 May 2004 08:09:55 -0700,

(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:

A Scientific Fact

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die...."Hebrews 9:27

This is a scientific fact and we are all going to die one day. No one can
stay, all must go. Is there anyone who can deny this fact? Even if they
do they will eventually lay down their life and exit this world. The death
rate is always the same one to one it never changes and is repeated over
and over again everyday.

Now, if the statement in Hebrews above is a true and scientific fact do
you suppose that the second half of the statement is also true?

No. Why should I?


"but after this the judgement." Heb 9:27

Your opinion of these two statements will determine where you will be in
eternity.

Be careful how you allegorize the Word of God...

.


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