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"Hatter" |
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24 Oct 2006 12:30:17 PM |
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A step outside of time |
Lets take a break from our usual ranting. Away from the endless same
ground again. We acknowledge there is no God. Fine.
However, humanity, those unwashed masses, aren't likely to wise up to
this fact anytime soon. So from a striclty neutral, not what we
fear...not what we want to happen, what is the future of relgion?
It is all too easy to beat our breast and insist fundamentalists will
turn the US into a theocracy and wage Jihad on the world...it is highly
unlikely
It is all too easy to say humans will give up this silly childhood myth
and live in non-religious harmony...it is as equally unlikely(for at
least a millenia or so)
What is the future of religion, from a strictly
futuro-speculative-anthropologist sort of view?
Hatter
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| User: "Bill M" |
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| Title: Re: A step outside of time |
24 Oct 2006 04:09:52 PM |
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"Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161711016.978660.146070@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Lets take a break from our usual ranting. Away from the endless same
ground again. We acknowledge there is no God. Fine.
However, humanity, those unwashed masses, aren't likely to wise up to
this fact anytime soon. So from a striclty neutral, not what we
fear...not what we want to happen, what is the future of relgion?
It is all too easy to beat our breast and insist fundamentalists will
turn the US into a theocracy and wage Jihad on the world...it is highly
unlikely
It is all too easy to say humans will give up this silly childhood myth
and live in non-religious harmony...it is as equally unlikely(for at
least a millenia or so)
What is the future of religion, from a strictly
futuro-speculative-anthropologist sort of view?
Hatter
Unfortunately the foundation of religion is peoples panic fear of death,
what comes after and its finality.
This creates a major mental block in most people to shield them from the
frightening thought of the finality of death.
They want to believe they are going to some happy eternal life in a Heaven.
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| User: "boxedin" |
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| Title: Re: A step outside of time |
24 Oct 2006 03:22:19 PM |
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What is the future of religion, from a strictly
futuro-speculative-anthropologist sort of view?
Hatter
Here's my prediction: All world religions will decline except Hinduism
and Buddhism, which will actually gain in popularity to fill the vacuum
left from those abandoning their old religions.
Eventually Hinduism will decline, leaving only Buddhism. Once this
happens, instead of a world of war and hatred, we will then enjoy a
world of peace and compassion.
Eventually, far far into the future, everyone will be enlightened and
become one with the cosmos after they die. The human race will have
served its time and will be over.
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie" |
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| Title: Re: A step outside of time |
24 Oct 2006 08:07:16 PM |
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boxedin wrote:
What is the future of religion, from a strictly
futuro-speculative-anthropologist sort of view?
Hatter
Here's my prediction: All world religions will decline except Hinduism
and Buddhism, which will actually gain in popularity to fill the vacuum
left from those abandoning their old religions.
Eventually Hinduism will decline, leaving only Buddhism. Once this
happens, instead of a world of war and hatred, we will then enjoy a
world of peace and compassion.
Eventually, far far into the future, everyone will be enlightened and
become one with the cosmos after they die. The human race will have
served its time and will be over.
Thank you for so succinctly dispelling the illusion that Buddhism is
any more constructive or useful than any other ***** religion.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: A step outside of time |
24 Oct 2006 01:26:29 PM |
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On 24 Oct 2006 10:30:17 -0700, "Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
It is all too easy to beat our breast and insist fundamentalists will
turn the US into a theocracy and wage Jihad on the world...it is highly
unlikely
You don't predict the past very well, do you?
What is the future of religion, from a strictly
futuro-speculative-anthropologist sort of view?
At how long a term?
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| User: "Stephen Knight" |
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| Title: Re: A step outside of time |
24 Oct 2006 10:08:25 PM |
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On 24 Oct 2006 10:30:17 -0700, "Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the future of religion, from a strictly
futuro-speculative-anthropologist sort of view?
I predict US superstition will fade away (as it is in Europe) Where
the spittle spraying religious ranter's will become more and more
alienated from common life and people will have a ho hum attitude.
Personally, I don't believe any of the polls stating how religion
is so prevalent in the US or how few atheists there are. It's
politics.
The crazy sects will survive. That's human.
The biggest problem humanity will face (Barring Comets, plagues
etc...) is Islam. Atheists and christians don't give a ***** about
them. We should. They produce Kamikaze believers willing to do
'anything'.
A time will come when they will go too far. They'll do something so
heinous that we'll respond in a nuclear blitzkrieg. Never mind the
innocent killed. Enough is enough.
Remember the words, those that don't remember history are doomed to
repeat it.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: A step outside of time |
24 Oct 2006 05:00:35 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:30:17 -0700, Hatter wrote:
Lets take a break from our usual ranting. Away from the endless same
ground again. We acknowledge there is no God. Fine.
However, humanity, those unwashed masses, aren't likely to wise up to this
fact anytime soon. So from a striclty neutral, not what we fear...not what
we want to happen, what is the future of relgion?
It is all too easy to beat our breast and insist fundamentalists will turn
the US into a theocracy and wage Jihad on the world...it is highly
unlikely
It is all too easy to say humans will give up this silly childhood myth
and live in non-religious harmony...it is as equally unlikely(for at least
a millenia or so)
What is the future of religion, from a strictly
futuro-speculative-anthropologist sort of view?
Hatter
I predict that the instinct for religion, and the social, cultural, and
psychological will keep religion going for a long time. Fundamentalism
and religious liberalism will wax and wane in a cyclic fashion. The ranks
of atheists/agnostics/don't-cares will grow somewhat, but will never have
much political influence. In the Middle East, hard-line Muslims will
soften as they are more accepted into the global society. There will be
occasional flare-ups of fundamentalists calling for jihad or committing
terrorist attacks, whenever they feel that the Muslim religion is getting
too soft, but they will be ostracized by the moderate majority.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: A step outside of time |
24 Oct 2006 08:50:56 PM |
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:00:35 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
In the Middle East, hard-line Muslims will
soften as they are more accepted into the global society.
Contrast this with Christianity, which IS "accepted into the global
society".
There will be occasional flare-ups of fundamentalists calling for jihad or committing
terrorist attacks, whenever they feel that the Muslim religion is getting
too soft, but they will be ostracized by the moderate majority.
Like right here in the good old "USed to be a democracy".
I predict a long period of more of the same, jihad, Crusade, whatever
you want to call it, before both sides get so weary they just can't
keep it up at the same level.
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rukbat at optonline dot net
"They laughed at Newton, they laughed at Einstein, but they also laughed at
Bozo the Clown."
- Carl Sagan
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: A step outside of time |
25 Oct 2006 07:54:26 AM |
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On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:50:56 -0400, Al Klein wrote:
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:00:35 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
In the Middle East, hard-line Muslims will soften as they are more
accepted into the global society.
Contrast this with Christianity, which IS "accepted into the global
society".
There will be occasional flare-ups of fundamentalists calling for jihad
or committing terrorist attacks, whenever they feel that the Muslim
religion is getting too soft, but they will be ostracized by the moderate
majority.
Like right here in the good old "USed to be a democracy".
I predict a long period of more of the same, jihad, Crusade, whatever you
want to call it, before both sides get so weary they just can't keep it up
at the same level.
Fundamentalism, in any religion, tends to increase as a reaction to an
increase in "modernity". The more hard core faction sees a rise in
modernity as a loss of devotion to religious principles. They make noise,
attract some interest, but people quickly realize why modernity is gaining
strength while religion is waning: modernity works, but religion doesn't.
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MarkA
(this space accidentally filled in)
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