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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "*nemo*"
Date: 27 Oct 2003 04:24:12 AM
Object: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003
I'm happy to announce that I have upgraded to Mac OS system 10.3
(Panther). I and the computer are doing well, thanks!
Here are the nominations for Theist Quote of the Month for October 2003.
Vote for your favorite by responding to this thread. Votes will be
accepted until midnight, Oct. 31. See rules below. Questions? Comments?
Email me.
* * * * *
1) Irrelevant!!! Even if you were to prove concusively that Christ
never existed, we would still love Him and believe in Him. That's the
way love and faith are...
By: Pastor Frank
Nominated: Ken Smith
Seconded: Liz
------------
2) In reply to:

So if, for example, God were to command someone to kill his son in a
situation which is neither self defense or war, would you say that
command was not merciful and right?

God has never done that.
By: duke
Nominated: Mekkala
Seconded: Nemo
------------
3) I would never want you to believe without evidence. The problem is
with the type of evidence you seek. Empiricism is not the correct truth
test for a world view, only undeniability is.
By: Randy Story
Nominated: Nemo
Seconded: Mark K. Bilbo
------------
4) In response to a request to logically define God:
That which is unlimited, uncomposed, not temporal, not dependant having
no potential to not exist and therefore a necessary being, purely
spiritual not being part of the space time universe.The source of all
finite being which participate in existence but are not part of infinite
being.
Dont think of being as a thing, think of being as ultimate reality. Does
the above definition help? I doubt it!
By: Randy Story
Nominated: Nemo
Seconded: lizzard woman
------------
5) God never killed anyone. But he has destroyed the source of all the
world's evil, like in the flood
By: duke
Nominated: JackNunn
Seconded: stoney
------------
6) In response to:

Why would the omnipotent, creator of all, be jealous of another god? Did the christian
god create this other god?

No, man did. It is a figment of his immagination and takes him away from
understanding the Real God of the universe.
By: Melchizedek
Nominated: Wolf333
Seconded: lizzard woman
------------
7) I was asking you to prove that God doesn't exist! You're saying one
doesn't prove a 'negative', I am saying He is not a negative! I promise
you that if you follow His instructions according to scripture, YOU'LL
FIND HIM; but YOU are unable to prove your position to me!
By: galia
Nominated: Dave W
Seconded: shund
------------
8) The concept that the person that claims something exists must prove
it is faulty. It is popular among atheist chats and debates because it
is an easy copout.

In truth it is the person with the more irrational claim that must prove
it true.
By: Ryan
Nominated: Nemo
Seconded: Dave W
------------
9) The bible is meant to simultaneously be read and meditated upon.
You seem to have taken a couple of verses and placed them completely out
of context with the rest of the bible.
By: Jeff
Nominated: Gregory Gadow
Seconded:

------------
10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at
reality.
By: Randy Story
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Woden
------------
11) In response to:

But foreknowledge and free will aren't (independent of one another), and you know
that.

They certaimly are, Gods knowledge of my free acts and me performing
those acts have no relation to each other except that he cant be wrong
about what he knows I will freely perform
By: Randy Story
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Bob White
------------
12) In response to:

Why are you so sure it's Satan and not God?

Cause Satan generally uses natural disasters or weather (incorrectly
referred to "Acts of God") and disease, famine etc. in most cases to
injure, maim or kill people after Christ had come. Satan hates people. I
personally believe Satan hates the Jews most, women second, active
Christians in general third and all other people after that.
By: georgann
Nominated: Fear gan dia
Seconded: Bob White
------------
13) You are such an idiot. If you are nice to someone, most often they
will be nice to you. It therefore makes sense to be nice to people.
By: Jim Scannell
Nominated: John Hattan
Seconded: stoney
------------
14) God doesn't do anything. The Universe is as a figment of His
imagination yet He is unaware of it. Figure that one out.
By: Jim Scannell
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: AngryJohn
---------------
15) As usual Zamboni your response does not warrant a response.
By: Randy Story
Nominated: Wolf333
Seconded: Bob White
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


Here are the rules for the Quote of the Month Contests.


RULES

1. Only atheists and agnostics may participate in the contests.

2. A quote is a valid entry for the contests if:

a. The quote is a brief piece of text;

b. The quote has recently been written in alt.atheism (verifiable);

c. Nomination of the quote is made by an atheist or agnostic
in alt.atheism

d. Nomination of the quote is supported by at least one other
atheist or agnostic in alt.atheism;

e. The quote is not nominated or seconded by the person who wrote it
in
the first place (no one is allowed to nominate him- or herself,
but a person
can vote for the quote he or she wrote.)

3. There will be two categories: 'Atheist Quote of the Month'
and 'Theist Quote of the Month'. The category for which a
quote must be nominated must be mentioned by the atheist or
agnostic who wants to nominate it.

If a quote is miscategorized (e.g. an atheist quote is mistakenly
nominated in the Theist QOTM category), the quote will be re-directed
to appear in the correct category, with approriate notification.

4. Nominations can be made until five days before the first of the
next month. If quotes are nominated after this period, they will be
considered as entries for the contest of the next month.

* When making a nomination, the word "nomination" MUST appear
somewhere in the subject line!

5. Each atheist or agnostic who visits alt.atheism has one vote to
cast for each category (two votes total).

6. Voting starts 5 days before the end of the month. During the month,
votes will be ignored. This way, all nominees will have equal chance of
winning.

7. The two winning quotes will be published in the QOTM Archive.

SUMMARY

A nomination must contain the following information:

1. The lines of the quote.

2. Who wrote it.

3. Who nominates or seconds the nomination of this quote (that's you!)

4. Which category this nomination is for.

5. The word "nomination" MUST appear somewhere in the subject line!

Publish the nomination or support for a nomination in a designated
thread, preferably called "[T/A]QoTM Nomination for [month]." You can
also e-mail it to me (see below).


VOTING

1. In the last five days of the month you can cast your vote in both
categories.

2. Votes must either be placed in the designated thread.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
.

User: "SDG&E"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 10:55:14 AM
I would have to pick #10
"*nemo*" <nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:nemo0037-47C8D9.05240827102003@news03.east.earthlink.net...

I'm happy to announce that I have upgraded to Mac OS system 10.3
(Panther). I and the computer are doing well, thanks!

Here are the nominations for Theist Quote of the Month for October 2003.
Vote for your favorite by responding to this thread. Votes will be
accepted until midnight, Oct. 31. See rules below. Questions? Comments?
Email me.
* * * * *

1) Irrelevant!!! Even if you were to prove concusively that Christ
never existed, we would still love Him and believe in Him. That's the
way love and faith are...

By: Pastor Frank
Nominated: Ken Smith
Seconded: Liz

------------

2) In reply to:

So if, for example, God were to command someone to kill his son in a
situation which is neither self defense or war, would you say that
command was not merciful and right?


God has never done that.

By: duke
Nominated: Mekkala
Seconded: Nemo

------------

3) I would never want you to believe without evidence. The problem is
with the type of evidence you seek. Empiricism is not the correct truth
test for a world view, only undeniability is.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: Nemo
Seconded: Mark K. Bilbo

------------

4) In response to a request to logically define God:

That which is unlimited, uncomposed, not temporal, not dependant having
no potential to not exist and therefore a necessary being, purely
spiritual not being part of the space time universe.The source of all
finite being which participate in existence but are not part of infinite
being.

Dont think of being as a thing, think of being as ultimate reality. Does
the above definition help? I doubt it!

By: Randy Story
Nominated: Nemo
Seconded: lizzard woman

------------

5) God never killed anyone. But he has destroyed the source of all the
world's evil, like in the flood

By: duke
Nominated: JackNunn
Seconded: stoney

------------

6) In response to:

Why would the omnipotent, creator of all, be jealous of another god? Did

the christian

god create this other god?


No, man did. It is a figment of his immagination and takes him away from
understanding the Real God of the universe.

By: Melchizedek
Nominated: Wolf333
Seconded: lizzard woman

------------

7) I was asking you to prove that God doesn't exist! You're saying one
doesn't prove a 'negative', I am saying He is not a negative! I promise
you that if you follow His instructions according to scripture, YOU'LL
FIND HIM; but YOU are unable to prove your position to me!

By: galia
Nominated: Dave W
Seconded: shund

------------

8) The concept that the person that claims something exists must prove
it is faulty. It is popular among atheist chats and debates because it
is an easy copout.

In truth it is the person with the more irrational claim that must prove
it true.

By: Ryan
Nominated: Nemo
Seconded: Dave W

------------

9) The bible is meant to simultaneously be read and meditated upon.
You seem to have taken a couple of verses and placed them completely out
of context with the rest of the bible.

By: Jeff
Nominated: Gregory Gadow
Seconded:



------------

10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at
reality.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Woden

------------

11) In response to:

But foreknowledge and free will aren't (independent of one another), and

you know

that.


They certaimly are, Gods knowledge of my free acts and me performing
those acts have no relation to each other except that he cant be wrong
about what he knows I will freely perform

By: Randy Story
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Bob White

------------

12) In response to:

Why are you so sure it's Satan and not God?


Cause Satan generally uses natural disasters or weather (incorrectly
referred to "Acts of God") and disease, famine etc. in most cases to
injure, maim or kill people after Christ had come. Satan hates people. I
personally believe Satan hates the Jews most, women second, active
Christians in general third and all other people after that.

By: georgann
Nominated: Fear gan dia
Seconded: Bob White

------------

13) You are such an idiot. If you are nice to someone, most often they
will be nice to you. It therefore makes sense to be nice to people.

By: Jim Scannell
Nominated: John Hattan
Seconded: stoney

------------

14) God doesn't do anything. The Universe is as a figment of His
imagination yet He is unaware of it. Figure that one out.

By: Jim Scannell
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: AngryJohn

---------------

15) As usual Zamboni your response does not warrant a response.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: Wolf333
Seconded: Bob White

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


Here are the rules for the Quote of the Month Contests.


RULES

1. Only atheists and agnostics may participate in the contests.

2. A quote is a valid entry for the contests if:

a. The quote is a brief piece of text;

b. The quote has recently been written in alt.atheism (verifiable);

c. Nomination of the quote is made by an atheist or agnostic
in alt.atheism

d. Nomination of the quote is supported by at least one other
atheist or agnostic in alt.atheism;

e. The quote is not nominated or seconded by the person who wrote it
in
the first place (no one is allowed to nominate him- or herself,
but a person
can vote for the quote he or she wrote.)

3. There will be two categories: 'Atheist Quote of the Month'
and 'Theist Quote of the Month'. The category for which a
quote must be nominated must be mentioned by the atheist or
agnostic who wants to nominate it.

If a quote is miscategorized (e.g. an atheist quote is mistakenly
nominated in the Theist QOTM category), the quote will be re-directed
to appear in the correct category, with approriate notification.

4. Nominations can be made until five days before the first of the
next month. If quotes are nominated after this period, they will be
considered as entries for the contest of the next month.

* When making a nomination, the word "nomination" MUST appear
somewhere in the subject line!

5. Each atheist or agnostic who visits alt.atheism has one vote to
cast for each category (two votes total).

6. Voting starts 5 days before the end of the month. During the month,
votes will be ignored. This way, all nominees will have equal chance of
winning.

7. The two winning quotes will be published in the QOTM Archive.

SUMMARY

A nomination must contain the following information:

1. The lines of the quote.

2. Who wrote it.

3. Who nominates or seconds the nomination of this quote (that's you!)

4. Which category this nomination is for.

5. The word "nomination" MUST appear somewhere in the subject line!

Publish the nomination or support for a nomination in a designated
thread, preferably called "[T/A]QoTM Nomination for [month]." You can
also e-mail it to me (see below).


VOTING

1. In the last five days of the month you can cast your vote in both
categories.

2. Votes must either be placed in the designated thread.

--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002

.
User: "Liz"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 30 Oct 2003 03:12:36 PM
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 10:55:14 -0600, "SDG&E" <noone@this.address> in
news message <3f9d4dfe_3@127.0.0.1> wrote:
<piggybacking>
Oooooooo! Good one's this month. Despite my nomination for Pastor
Frank, I must now cast my vote for #10, really.


10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at
reality.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Woden

Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
.


User: "Mike Smith"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 09:18:07 PM
#5
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Mike Smith | aa #1164 | Founder of SMASH
__________________________________________
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"There went up a smoke out of his nostrils,
and fire out of his mouth." - Psalms 18:8
.

User: "Bob White"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 01:19:03 PM
"*nemo*" <nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:nemo0037-47C8D9.05240827102003@news03.east.earthlink.net...

------------

10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at
reality.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Woden

------------

10 gets my vote. The irony! The irony!
.

User: "Ron Baker"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 05:36:25 PM
"*nemo*" <nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:nemo0037-47C8D9.05240827102003@news03.east.earthlink.net...
I vote for:

------------

3) I would never want you to believe without evidence. The problem is
with the type of evidence you seek. Empiricism is not the correct truth
test for a world view, only undeniability is.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: Nemo
Seconded: Mark K. Bilbo

------------

.

User: "Woden"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 06:39:53 PM
*nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com> wrote in
news:nemo0037-47C8D9.05240827102003@news03.east.earthlink.net:
I still like this one.


10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at
reality.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Woden

--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
.

User: "jwk"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 07:49:06 AM
*nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com> wrote in message

Man, it's like duke, Pastor Frank, Melchizedek, Ryan, georgann and
Dirty Story .. , er, I mean Randy, are actually trying for this award.
They make outlandishly stupid, irrational statements on an almost
daily basis. (Some do it hourly.) I hate giving any of them
anything, even this "honor", but I pick #1.

1) Irrelevant!!! Even if you were to prove concusively that Christ
never existed, we would still love Him and believe in Him. That's the
way love and faith are...

By: Pastor Frank
Nominated: Ken Smith
Seconded: Liz

jwk
BAAWA
.

User: "gardibolt"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 29 Oct 2003 12:18:55 PM
*nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com> wrote in message news:<nemo0037-47C8D9.05240827102003@news03.east.earthlink.net>...



Man, this is very close for sheer obtuseness:

5) God never killed anyone. But he has destroyed the source of all the
world's evil, like in the flood

By: duke
Nominated: JackNunn
Seconded: stoney

------------

But this one made me shoot coffee out my nose (OW!) so it gets my vote:


8) The concept that the person that claims something exists must prove
it is faulty. It is popular among atheist chats and debates because it
is an easy copout.

In truth it is the person with the more irrational claim that must prove
it true.

By: Ryan
Nominated: Nemo
Seconded: Dave W


gardhi
aa #1964
.

User: "Arjen Klaver"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 31 Oct 2003 09:51:03 AM
*nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com> wrote in message news:<nemo0037-47C8D9.05240827102003@news03.east.earthlink.net>...

I'm happy to announce that I have upgraded to Mac OS system 10.3
(Panther). I and the computer are doing well, thanks!

Here are the nominations for Theist Quote of the Month for October 2003.
Vote for your favorite by responding to this thread. Votes will be
accepted until midnight, Oct. 31. See rules below. Questions? Comments?
Email me.
* * * * *


10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at
reality.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Woden


I choose this one #10,
Greetings,
Arjen Klaver
.

User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 06:33:28 PM
*nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com> wrote in news:nemo0037-
47C8D9.05240827102003@news03.east.earthlink.net:


15) As usual Zamboni your response does not warrant a response.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: Wolf333
Seconded: Bob White

I think he does it on purpose and should probably be disqualified from
future TQOTM's because he's a "ringer." ;p
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"And the knowledge that they fear
Is a weapon to be used against them."
--Rush, "The Weapon"
.

User: "John Hattan"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 08:10:07 AM
*nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com> wrote:

13) You are such an idiot. If you are nice to someone, most often they
will be nice to you. It therefore makes sense to be nice to people.

By: Jim Scannell
Nominated: John Hattan
Seconded: stoney

Sticking with number 13 here. I love people who manage to contradict
themselves within two sentences.
---
John Hattan Grand High UberPope - First Church of Shatnerology
john@thecodezone.com http://www.shatnerology.com
.

User: "Pat Kiewicz"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 07:16:57 AM
*nemo* said:
I think this is the obvious one (though #4 had a certain, um, appeal):


10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at
reality.

--
Pat K. aa#1154

Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(attributed to Don Marti)
.

User: "Olrik"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 10:37:22 PM
*nemo* wrote:


4) In response to a request to logically define God:

That which is unlimited, uncomposed, not temporal, not dependant having
no potential to not exist and therefore a necessary being, purely
spiritual not being part of the space time universe.The source of all
finite being which participate in existence but are not part of infinite
being.

Dont think of being as a thing, think of being as ultimate reality. Does
the above definition help? I doubt it!

By: Randy Story
Nominated: Nemo
Seconded: lizzard woman

That was too much! He/it gets my vote!
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
.

User: "Roy Sinnamond"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 01:38:09 PM
*nemo* wrote:

1) Irrelevant!!! Even if you were to prove concusively that Christ
never existed, we would still love Him and believe in Him. That's the
way love and faith are...

By: Pastor Frank
Nominated: Ken Smith
Seconded: Liz

Number 1 thank you.
--
Roy Sinnamond
aa #1798 EAC Minister of Cognitive Dissonance
roysinnamond at mac dot com
"That'll put marzipan in your pie plate, Bingo!"
.

User: "Carl Kaufmann"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 11:47:23 AM
*nemo* wrote:

10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at
reality.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Woden

Definitely this one!
--
EAC Liar, Damned Liar, and Statistician
A.A. #1966
"Statistical thinking will one day be as necessary for efficient
citizenship as the ability to read and write." - H.G. Wells
.

User: "david asman"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 07:50:12 AM
*nemo* wrote:
Nice to see we've got a good number
of posts from various people. I'll vote for
number one from Pastor Frank, listed below.
Dave



1) Irrelevant!!! Even if you were to prove concusively that Christ
never existed, we would still love Him and believe in Him. That's the
way love and faith are...

By: Pastor Frank
Nominated: Ken Smith
Seconded: Liz

------------

.

User: "Kevin Anthoney"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 12:48:37 PM
*nemo* wrote:
Two whole months of nothing, and then this bumper crop! I'll go with this
one.


------------

8) The concept that the person that claims something exists must prove
it is faulty. It is popular among atheist chats and debates because it
is an easy copout.

In truth it is the person with the more irrational claim that must prove
it true.

By: Ryan
Nominated: Nemo
Seconded: Dave W

------------

--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
.

User: "Dr. Cors"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 04:41:02 PM
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*nemo* wrote:

4) In response to a request to logically define God:

That which is unlimited, uncomposed, not temporal, not dependant having
no potential to not exist and therefore a necessary being, purely
spiritual not being part of the space time universe.The source of all
finite being which participate in existence but are not part of infinite
being.

Dont think of being as a thing, think of being as ultimate reality. Does
the above definition help? I doubt it!

By: Randy Story
Nominated: Nemo
Seconded: lizzard woman

Randy forgot the 'logically' part. Good one.

------------

6) In response to:

Why would the omnipotent, creator of all, be jealous of another god? Did
the christian god create this other god?


No, man did. It is a figment of his immagination and takes him away from
understanding the Real God of the universe.

By: Melchizedek
Nominated: Wolf333
Seconded: lizzard woman

So close!!
But...

------------

10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at
reality.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Woden


this one is too... too... too, period. My vote for this one by Randy, even
though georgann the demonologist was a tough contender too.
- --
Angel Arnal, Valencia, España aa #1443 BAAWA
http://usuario.tiscali.es/angelarn
EAC Chairperson for Bible Translation Mess-up | Official EAC Latin Lover
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User: "AckbarJedi"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 03:44:44 PM
10.
Unquestionably 10! That one is sooo great!

10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at
reality.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Woden

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User: "Maverick"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 06:53:07 AM
10/27/2003, around 11:24:12 AM, *nemo* wrote:

I'm happy to announce that I have upgraded to Mac OS system 10.3
(Panther). I and the computer are doing well, thanks!

Here are the nominations for Theist Quote of the Month for October
2003. Vote for your favorite by responding to this thread. Votes
will be accepted until midnight, Oct. 31. See rules below. Questions?
Comments? Email me.
* * * * *

[VOTE]


10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at
reality.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Woden

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[/VOTE]
So many good ones :) I also liked these:

1) Irrelevant!!! Even if you were to prove concusively that
Christ never existed, we would still love Him and believe in Him.
That's the way love and faith are...

By: Pastor Frank
Nominated: Ken Smith
Seconded: Liz

------------

3) I would never want you to believe without evidence. The problem
is with the type of evidence you seek. Empiricism is not the correct
truth test for a world view, only undeniability is.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: Nemo
Seconded: Mark K. Bilbo

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4) In response to a request to logically define God:

That which is unlimited, uncomposed, not temporal, not dependant
having no potential to not exist and therefore a necessary being,
purely spiritual not being part of the space time universe.The source
of all finite being which participate in existence but are not part
of infinite being.

Dont think of being as a thing, think of being as ultimate reality.
Does the above definition help? I doubt it!

By: Randy Story
Nominated: Nemo
Seconded: lizzard woman

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5) God never killed anyone. But he has destroyed the source of all
the world's evil, like in the flood

By: duke
Nominated: JackNunn
Seconded: stoney

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7) I was asking you to prove that God doesn't exist! You're saying
one doesn't prove a 'negative', I am saying He is not a negative! I
promise you that if you follow His instructions according to
scripture, YOU'LL FIND HIM; but YOU are unable to prove your position
to me!

By: galia
Nominated: Dave W
Seconded: shund

------------

8) The concept that the person that claims something exists must
prove it is faulty. It is popular among atheist chats and debates
because it is an easy copout.

In truth it is the person with the more irrational claim that must
prove it true.

By: Ryan
Nominated: Nemo
Seconded: Dave W

------------

13) You are such an idiot. If you are nice to someone, most often
they will be nice to you. It therefore makes sense to be nice to
people.

By: Jim Scannell
Nominated: John Hattan
Seconded: stoney

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User: "Rv Cloim"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 05:48:12 PM
8

8) The concept that the person that claims something exists must prove it
is faulty. It is popular among atheist chats and debates because it is an
easy copout.

In truth it is the person with the more irrational claim that must prove
it true.

By: Ryan
Nominated: Nemo
Seconded: Dave W

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User: "MAYA"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 06:30:52 AM


1) Irrelevant!!! Even if you were to prove concusively that Christ
never existed, we would still love Him and believe in Him. That's the
way love and faith are...

By: Pastor Frank
Nominated: Ken Smith
Seconded: Liz

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MAYA
AA #2152
***Nullum est iam dictum quod non dictum sit prius***
Nothing is said that hasn't been said before.
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User: "the cutest atheist"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 05:54:23 AM


10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at
reality.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Woden

this one please!!! haha, I keep picturing Randy clasping his forehead like a
drama queen
-Cutest, herself a fifty-foot drama queen
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User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 10:01:17 AM


10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at
reality.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Woden

This Randy dude is just a wealth of silly quotes ain't he?
But this one takes it.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor

A.A #1143 ULC Minister
Home School Educator for Computer Science
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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User: "MarkA"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 06:33:16 AM


10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at reality.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Woden

------------

This one. Just perfect.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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User: "Alan Hobson"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 09:57:11 AM


5) God never killed anyone. But he has destroyed the source of all the
world's evil, like in the flood

By: duke
Nominated: JackNunn
Seconded: stoney

There are quite a few stunningly braindead quotes this month, but #5
has the greatest "HUH?" factor for me.
-Alan
aa#1608 BAAWA
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User: "Jeff Jones"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 09:03:16 AM

10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at
reality.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Woden

Apparently it's famine or drought with TQOTM. Tough choices this month but
the above gets my vote for it's sheer insight into the fundy mind. Excuse
me while I go take a shower.
Jeff Jones
Austin, Texas
aa #2044
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User: "Walking on Glass"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 31 Oct 2003 09:09:41 PM
And it came to pass that *nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com> did write
in alt.atheism,
news:nemo0037-47C8D9.05240827102003@news03.east.earthlink.net:

10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at
reality.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Woden

Randy has some good competition this month, but...this one!
--
Walking on Glass (remove NOSPAM to email me)
AA #2053 Zymurgist #12
"If you want to save your child from polio, you can pray or
you can inoculate...Try science"
Carl Sagan - "The Demon-Haunted World"
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User: "Kronk"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 31 Oct 2003 12:42:53 PM
Close contest, but I've got to go with:

8) The concept that the person that claims something exists must prove
it is faulty. It is popular among atheist chats and debates because it
is an easy copout.

In truth it is the person with the more irrational claim that must prove
it true.

By: Ryan
Nominated: Nemo
Seconded: Dave W

I loved all the wrangling to dodge one sound principle of reasoning,
only to step out in front of another that flattens him like a Mack
truck. It's classic Wile E. Coyote.
Kronk
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User: "John Popelish"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 05:05:20 PM
How can one possibly pack theism into a smaller nut shell?
I vote for #10.

10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at
reality.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Woden

--
John Popelish
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User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 10:08:42 AM
I made the deliberate decision to exclude repeat nominees, people like Georgeann and Duke
and Mr. Story who are simply too outrageous and too frequent posters to be a real theist.
So...
*nemo* wrote:

9) The bible is meant to simultaneously be read and meditated upon.
You seem to have taken a couple of verses and placed them completely out
of context with the rest of the bible.

By: Jeff
Nominated: Gregory Gadow
Seconded:


--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"If you make yourself a sheep, the wolves will eat you."
-- Benjamin Franklin
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User: "DCinON"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 27 Oct 2003 01:30:14 PM
I think I'll vote for #8
Doug.

8) The concept that the person that claims something exists must prove
it is faulty. It is popular among atheist chats and debates because it
is an easy copout.

In truth it is the person with the more irrational claim that must prove
it true.

By: Ryan
Nominated: Nemo
Seconded: Dave W

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User: "johac"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 28 Oct 2003 01:37:22 AM
In article
<nemo0037-47C8D9.05240827102003@news03.east.earthlink.net>,
*nemo* <nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com> wrote:



10) I get so tired of trying to talk to people that want look at
reality.

By: Randy Story
Nominated: david asman
Seconded: Woden

I could have picked almost any quote from Randy, but I'll go with
number 10.
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782

Pierre Laplace, when asked by Napoleon on why he made
no mention of a god in his book on astronomy: "Sire,
I have no need of that hypothesis."
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User: "BDK"

Title: Re: aa - The Polls Are Open! - TQOTM for Oct. 2003 28 Oct 2003 04:09:02 AM
In article <nemo0037-47C8D9.05240827102003@news03.east.earthlink.net>,
nemo0037@yahoo.dieSPAM.com says...

I'm happy to announce that I have upgraded to Mac OS system 10.3
(Panther). I and the computer are doing well, thanks!

Here are the nominations for Theist Quote of the Month for October 2003.
Vote for your favorite by responding to this thread. Votes will be
accepted until midnight, Oct. 31. See rules below. Questions? Comments?
Email me.
* * * * *

1) Irrelevant!!! Even if you were to prove concusively that Christ
never existed, we would still love Him and believe in Him. That's the
way love and faith are...

By: Pastor Frank
Nominated: Ken Smith
Seconded: Liz


I gotta go with Frankie, for insanity alone.
BDK
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