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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "*nemo*"
Date: 27 Oct 2006 04:45:48 AM
Object: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006
Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for October
2006. Vote for your favorite by responding to this thread. Votes will be
accepted until midnight, Oct 31, 2006. See rules below. Questions?
Comments?
Email me.
* * * * *
1) Please believe that I don't mean to condescend, but you don't seem
to understand atheism. Atheism is not what atheists believe and live by.
There is nothing there on which to base a belief let alone guide our
lives. What we believe and how we guide our lives are based on a great
many things, as you can imagine, but belief and moral codes cannot be
based on a void.
One who believes in god can base there entire persona on this belief, as
well they should. One who does not believe in god must go elsewhere,
for atheism is a hole; a vacuum. Some atheists attack theists for there
beliefs because there is something there to attack. The theist has a
hard time attacking atheists because you may not know what it is that
drives the atheist. You know it isn't god but that doesn't really help.
Is it science? Literature? Family? Music? Nonconformity? Who knows. For
me it's science.
Simply put, many atheists who feel that they must attack theists are
aiming at god and religions. They are big targets and very easy to hit.
Many theists who feel that they must attack atheists are aiming at a
hole. There is no bullseye to hit unless you get to know your target.
I shouldn't make it sound as though many theists don't already know
this; this is why science comes under attack every once in a while.
Science is as good a target as a theist could hope for but while it is
big, it's not so easy to hit. The atheist need only attack the idea of
god which can be as easy as hitting a paper plate at your feet. In the
Judeo-Christian religion this is the case because the bible is believed
to be the word of god. The bible is an easy target to hit. Science on
the other hand is a target as big as the Tetons but it is so far away
from too many theists; many have a lot of work to do before they should
think about drawing their bow.
By: kidigus
Nominated: Lucifer
Seconded: Kate
------------
2) In response to:

I was crying because of the pain I know Mr. Warlord will experience
when he's burning up in hell. I guess I'm more sympathetic than you.

Cry, my *****. You just hoping to be able to set the telescope concession
in Heaven and make money off of other's pain.
By: Hotel Charlie One
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Doc Smartass
------------
3) While watching the news this evening, hearing the Moslems say this
and the Catholics respond with that, with both sides defending the
indefensible idea of an invisible super being who looks out for them, I
was struck by the idea that they all resemble nothing so much as two
tribes of monkeys flinging feces at each other in an attempt to prove
which one is more civilized.
By: L. Raymond
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Christopher A. Lee
------------
4) For me, being an atheist is a side effect of simply accepting facts.
I don't want "atheist power"...I want truth, I want people to be
skeptics, I want people to live and let live. I want people to be
empathetic.

Atheism is a side effect of those things. Religion isn't inherently bad,
it just leaves people open to non skeptical ideas, leaves then open to
pretty much anything, including hurting one another. Atheism isn't
inherently good, it can lead people to feel more responsible for the
here and now.
By: Zooropa
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Harry F. Leopold
------------
5) In response to:

What a searing indictment of society that expects you to hide [one's atheism or
you can't adopt.

That there is a real or perceived demand that to be considered good
enough to be "allowed" to adopt, both parents MUST suffer from a
dangerous infantile mental delusion, is a very real indication of a
society that is sick to the core.
By: Michael Gray
Nominated: towelie
Seconded: Panama Floyd
------------
6) If you bred dogs and they had a tendancy to kill each other, would
your solution be to put your child in the cage to be killed? Is he dead
yet? Oh goody. I feel better now. You can come live in my bedroom.
If you keep killing each other and shitting on the bed, I'll ***** one
of them, and have a halfbreed child for them to tear to pieces so I'll
feel so much better.
By: AZ Nomad
Nominated: Chris Johnson
Seconded: aversiveness
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7) Next he [Rep Foley] will "find God" and then all will be forgiven -
sort of like declaring bankrupcy.
By: jcon
Nominated: towelie
Seconded: Kate
------------
8) In response to:

We should unite and become a religion to enjoy the benefits the US
already provides to all of the other religions....

Benefits? I think the benefits are nothing compared to the drawbacks. If
I have to sit through an atheist Sunday picnic and listen to some
atheist soccer-mom go on and on about how her housekeeper is stealing
soap and her kid isn't getting playing time, I will shoot myself.
By: Geoff
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Jon Stoll
------------
9) In response to:

Somehow one arrow (chemical reaction) hit the target(life). OK.
But why was there only ONE target and not others?

It's not hard to hit a target if you fire the arrow, see where it hits,
and then draw the bullseye around it.


( in response to neo)

By: Mark VandeWettering
Nominated: Neil Kelsey
Seconded: Christopher A. Lee
------------
10) In response to:

What do you mean, you don't believe in God? Everybody has to believe in
something!

Seriously though, I have heard that many times. As well as "You HAVE to
teach your daughter to believe in something!", to which I reply, "I'm
teaching her to believe in herself".
By: Robibnikoff
Nominated: Uncle Vic
Seconded: Michelle Malkin
------------
11) All very good points. Here is one more: If you define the
developing fetus to be a human with rights comparable to those of a
'post-birth' human, then that fetus is committing criminal assault
against the mother. It is depriving the mother of the unrestricted use
of her body and taking from her, against her wishes, blood, food,
oxygen, etc. It is exposing her to increased risk of cardio-vascular,
resiratory, and endocrine problems. If she wishes to provide those
goods and services, that is her perogative. If she does not, the fetus
needs to cease and desist as soon as the mother decides that she no
longer wishes to maintain the relationship. If the fetus is unable to
acquire sustanence from other sources, that is not the pregnant woman's
concern. If a beggar comes up to me on the street and tells me he will
die unless I give him food, I am in no way legally obliged to provide
him with anything. Even if the beggar is a child. If the beggar does
indeed die, I am not guilty of murder. The same is true in a pregnancy.
The fetus deserves no special status.
By: MarkA
Nominated: Lucifer
Seconded: Strife767
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12) Re: The idea of an invisible, reclusive God:
And, having created an infinitely large universe, it's intensely
interested in the actions of every single member of one particular
species living on one insignificant planet circling a common star at the
outer reaches of it's otherwise forgettable galaxy. It took the Greeks
to invent the word hubris, but some people will go to any lengths to
prove a point.
By: Al Klein
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Douglas Berry
------------
13) You are looking at this from the wrong perspective. Look at the
situation from the drunken father's point of view. He prayed for a
child to beat and rape and God® provided. The suffering of others
really doesn't count as pain, as illustrated in the story of Job. Job's
wife and children died as a direct result of a bet between God® and
Satan, but that was all good because God® provided a new wife and new
children for Job at the end of the test for faithfulness.

So the child who is beaten and raped is inconsequential if the drunken
father faithfully believes and worships God® no matter what obstacles,
such as the pain or death of a child, that are put in his way.
By: Liz
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Harry F. Leopold
------------
14) There is an insight which no monotheistic religion in the world has
yet been capable of discovering: the fact that the transition from an
immature to a mature morality comes only when the *need not to
disappoint* is replaced by the *need not to harm*.
By: Mark D J.
Nominated: Christopher A. Lee
Seconded: Harry F. Leopold
------------
15) In response to:

"The moment a little boy is concerned with which is a jay and which is a
sparrow, he can no longer see the birds or hear them sing."

Well, that is just plain wrong. The more you love birds, the more you
want to know about them. You are saying that intellectual curiosity
kills any sense of beauty. I know many intellectually competent people
who would disagree. It is only the intellectually incompetent and lazy
who try to console themselves with crap like that.
By: MarkA
Nominated: Pastor Kutchie
Seconded: Mike
------------
16) He is so ignorant that he probably thinks that "extra-Biblical"
means "really, really biblical".
By: Michael Gray
Nominated: Cary Kittrell
Seconded: JessHC
------------
17) Thank you for contacting pagan atheist Europe. Right now all our
operators are busy, but your questions will be answered as soon as you
have reached intellectual maturity.
By: J. Anderson
Nominated: Panama Floyd
Seconded: Doc Smartass
------------
18) In response to:

Catholic priests and bishops have done appalling things, but leaving
the Church won't help.

Well it certainly won't help the church. Leaving a burning building
doesn't mean it will stop burning, however it might help YOU.
By: Hatter
Nominated: raven1
Seconded: Hannele
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Here are the rules for the Quote of the Month Contests.


RULES

1. Only atheists and agnostics may participate in the contests.

2. A quote is a valid entry for the contests if:

a. The quote is a brief piece of text

b. The quote has recently been written in alt.atheism (verifiable),
and is original (no quotes by famous authors, for instance)

c. Nomination of the quote is made by an atheist or agnostic
in alt.atheism

d. Nomination of the quote is supported by at least one other
atheist or agnostic in alt.atheism;

e. The quote is not nominated or seconded by the person who wrote it
in the first place (no one is allowed to nominate him- or herself,
but a person can vote for the quote he or she wrote.)

3. There will be two categories: 'Atheist Quote of the Month'
and 'Theist Quote of the Month'. The category for which a
quote must be nominated must be mentioned by the atheist or
agnostic who wants to nominate it.

If a quote is miscategorized (e.g. an atheist quote is mistakenly
nominated in the Theist QOTM category), the quote will be re-directed
to appear in the correct category, with approriate notification.

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6. Voting starts 5 days before the end of the month. During the month,
votes will be ignored. This way, all nominees will have equal chance of
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7. The two winning quotes will be published in the QOTM Archive.

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--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
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Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
.

User: "MarkA"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 28 Oct 2006 10:46:15 AM

3) While watching the news this evening, hearing the Moslems say this
and the Catholics respond with that, with both sides defending the
indefensible idea of an invisible super being who looks out for them, I
was struck by the idea that they all resemble nothing so much as two
tribes of monkeys flinging feces at each other in an attempt to prove
which one is more civilized.

By: L. Raymond
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Christopher A. Lee

Normally, being as shallow and self-centered as I am (I'm an atheist, you
know), I would vote for my own, but this one is too good to pass up.
#3 gets my vote.
--
MarkA
(this space accidentally filled in)
.

User: "Gail Futoran"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 08:52:52 AM
#10

10) In response to:

What do you mean, you don't believe in God? Everybody has to believe in
something!


Seriously though, I have heard that many times. As well as "You HAVE to
teach your daughter to believe in something!", to which I reply, "I'm
teaching her to believe in herself".

By: Robibnikoff
Nominated: Uncle Vic
Seconded: Michelle Malkin

------------

Gail
aa#2247
.

User: "Mike Smith"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 08:46:52 AM
#11
__________________________________________
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
Mike Smith | aa #1164 | Founder of SMASH
__________________________________________
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.
- Psa. 14a
Whoever saith 'thou fool' to his brother shall
be liable to burn in hellfire. - Matt 5:22.
.

User: "Carl Kaufmann"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 12:43:13 PM
#11 with honourable mention to #18
.

User: "Lucifer"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 05:51:03 AM
<snip>

10) In response to:

What do you mean, you don't believe in God? Everybody has to believe in
something!


Seriously though, I have heard that many times. As well as "You HAVE to
teach your daughter to believe in something!", to which I reply, "I'm
teaching her to believe in herself".

By: Robibnikoff
Nominated: Uncle Vic
Seconded: Michelle Malkin

<snip>
Many good contwenders, I foudn 17 particularly amusing, but I'm gonna
have to go for this one (10)
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
.
User: "Les Hellawell"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 06:34:44 AM
On 27 Oct 2006 03:51:03 -0700, "Lucifer" <wyrdology@hotmail.com>
wrote:

<snip>

10) In response to:

What do you mean, you don't believe in God? Everybody has to believe in
something!


Seriously though, I have heard that many times. As well as "You HAVE to
teach your daughter to believe in something!", to which I reply, "I'm
teaching her to believe in herself".

By: Robibnikoff
Nominated: Uncle Vic
Seconded: Michelle Malkin


<snip>

Many good contwenders, I foudn 17 particularly amusing, but I'm gonna
have to go for this one (10)

Since I echoed the FAQ and thought it the best answer I concur.
I vote for this one
--
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
.


User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 09:08:23 AM
"*nemo*" <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote
snip
snip

4) For me, being an atheist is a side effect of simply accepting facts.
I don't want "atheist power"...I want truth, I want people to be
skeptics, I want people to live and let live. I want people to be
empathetic.

Atheism is a side effect of those things. Religion isn't inherently bad,
it just leaves people open to non skeptical ideas, leaves then open to
pretty much anything, including hurting one another. Atheism isn't
inherently good, it can lead people to feel more responsible for the
here and now.

By: Zooropa
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Harry F. Leopold

This one :)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.

User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 30 Oct 2006 12:29:08 AM
"*nemo*" <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:nemo0037-78F7A8.05454627102006@news.west.earthlink.net...

Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for October

I vote for #3.
(Several good ones this month.
Honorable mention to #2, #9, and #18.)

------------

3) While watching the news this evening, hearing the Moslems say this
and the Catholics respond with that, with both sides defending the
indefensible idea of an invisible super being who looks out for them, I
was struck by the idea that they all resemble nothing so much as two
tribes of monkeys flinging feces at each other in an attempt to prove
which one is more civilized.

By: L. Raymond
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Christopher A. Lee

------------

--
rb #2187
.

User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 08:51:03 AM
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote in news:nemo0037-
78F7A8.05454627102006@news.west.earthlink.net:

18) In response to:

Catholic priests and bishops have done appalling things, but leaving
the Church won't help.


Well it certainly won't help the church. Leaving a burning building
doesn't mean it will stop burning, however it might help YOU.

By: Hatter
Nominated: raven1
Seconded: Hannele

--
Doc Smartass
The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of
words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people
who must use the words. - Philip K. *****
.

User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 09:09:44 AM
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote in news:nemo0037-
78F7A8.05454627102006@news.west.earthlink.net:
This one:

3) While watching the news this evening, hearing the Moslems say this
and the Catholics respond with that, with both sides defending the
indefensible idea of an invisible super being who looks out for them, I
was struck by the idea that they all resemble nothing so much as two
tribes of monkeys flinging feces at each other in an attempt to prove
which one is more civilized.

By: L. Raymond
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Christopher A. Lee

Good crop this month. Well said, all!
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"There are hundreds of millions who believe the Messiah has come. If he
did, then it is unfortunately the case that his heroic sacrifice and
death have had no effect whatsoever on the very problem his coming might
have been expected to address, for history demonstrates, beyond question,
that we Christians have been just as dangerous, singly and en masse, as
non-Christians."
-Steve Allen
.

User: "Pat Kiewicz"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 06:54:00 AM
*nemo* said:
I really liked #4 and #10 but I will vote for #15.


15) In response to:

"The moment a little boy is concerned with which is a jay and which is a
sparrow, he can no longer see the birds or hear them sing."


Well, that is just plain wrong. The more you love birds, the more you
want to know about them. You are saying that intellectual curiosity
kills any sense of beauty. I know many intellectually competent people
who would disagree. It is only the intellectually incompetent and lazy
who try to console themselves with crap like that.

By: MarkA
Nominated: Pastor Kutchie
Seconded: Mike

--
Pat K. aa#1154 ('someplace.net' is comcast)

Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(attributed to Don Marti)
.

User: "Olrik"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 11:40:52 PM
*nemo* wrote:

3) While watching the news this evening, hearing the Moslems say this
and the Catholics respond with that, with both sides defending the
indefensible idea of an invisible super being who looks out for them, I
was struck by the idea that they all resemble nothing so much as two
tribes of monkeys flinging feces at each other in an attempt to prove
which one is more civilized.

By: L. Raymond
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Christopher A. Lee

Amid a splendid selection, I'll go with that one.
Olrik
.

User: ""

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 04:51:35 AM
*nemo* wrote:

Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for October
2006.

Still loving #17, but I think this one is more profound. Voting #14.

14) There is an insight which no monotheistic religion in the world has
yet been capable of discovering: the fact that the transition from an
immature to a mature morality comes only when the *need not to
disappoint* is replaced by the *need not to harm*.

By: Mark D J.
Nominated: Christopher A. Lee
Seconded: Harry F. Leopold

-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man Sept 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
.

User: "skyeyes"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 07:04:55 PM
*nemo* wrote:

Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for October
2006. Vote for your favorite by responding to this thread. Votes will be
accepted until midnight, Oct 31, 2006. See rules below. Questions?

#16 gets my vote.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
.

User: "Chris Johnson"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 31 Oct 2006 05:41:27 PM
*nemo* wrote:

Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for October
2006. Vote for your favorite by responding to this thread. Votes will be
accepted until midnight, Oct 31, 2006. See rules below. Questions?
Comments?
Email me.

* * * * *

This one.

12) Re: The idea of an invisible, reclusive God:

And, having created an infinitely large universe, it's intensely
interested in the actions of every single member of one particular
species living on one insignificant planet circling a common star at the
outer reaches of it's otherwise forgettable galaxy. It took the Greeks
to invent the word hubris, but some people will go to any lengths to
prove a point.

By: Al Klein
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Douglas Berry

.

User: "Kevin Anthoney"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 11:44:44 AM
*nemo* wrote:
This one:


------------

10) In response to:

What do you mean, you don't believe in God? Everybody has to believe in
something!


Seriously though, I have heard that many times. As well as "You HAVE to
teach your daughter to believe in something!", to which I reply, "I'm
teaching her to believe in herself".

By: Robibnikoff
Nominated: Uncle Vic
Seconded: Michelle Malkin

------------

--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
.

User: "Kate "

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 09:01:03 AM
I vote for this one
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:45:48 GMT, *nemo*
<nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:

14) There is an insight which no monotheistic religion in the world has
yet been capable of discovering: the fact that the transition from an
immature to a mature morality comes only when the *need not to
disappoint* is replaced by the *need not to harm*.

By: Mark D J.
Nominated: Christopher A. Lee
Seconded: Harry F. Leopold

.

User: "Siobhan Burke"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 30 Oct 2006 12:59:48 PM
In article <nemo0037-78F7A8.05454627102006
@news.west.earthlink.net>,

says...

Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for October
2006. Vote for your favorite by responding to this thread. Votes will be
accepted until midnight, Oct 31, 2006. See rules below. Questions?
Comments?
Email me.

So many good ones this month. Well, this one. I agree with
MarkA completely.

------------

15) In response to:

"The moment a little boy is concerned with which is a jay and which is a
sparrow, he can no longer see the birds or hear them sing."


Well, that is just plain wrong. The more you love birds, the more you
want to know about them. You are saying that intellectual curiosity
kills any sense of beauty. I know many intellectually competent people
who would disagree. It is only the intellectually incompetent and lazy
who try to console themselves with crap like that.

By: MarkA
Nominated: Pastor Kutchie
Seconded: Mike

------------


--
Siobhan - alt.atheism list #2201
hellflower.alMayne@earthlink.net (Now a real address, if you ice
the alMayne.)
Just keep walking, preacher-man. --River Tam
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 29 Oct 2006 02:10:14 AM
In article <nemo0037-78F7A8.05454627102006@news.west.earthlink.net>,
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:

Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for October
2006. Vote for your favorite by responding to this thread. Votes will be
accepted until midnight, Oct 31, 2006. See rules below. Questions?
Comments?
Email me.


10) In response to:

What do you mean, you don't believe in God? Everybody has to believe in
something!


Seriously though, I have heard that many times. As well as "You HAVE to
teach your daughter to believe in something!", to which I reply, "I'm
teaching her to believe in herself".

By: Robibnikoff
Nominated: Uncle Vic
Seconded: Michelle Malkin

I'll go with No. 10.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.

User: "George Ricker"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 11:54:01 AM
In article <nemo0037-78F7A8.05454627102006@news.west.earthlink.net>,
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:

Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for October
2006. Vote for your favorite by responding to this thread. Votes will be
accepted until midnight, Oct 31, 2006. See rules below. Questions?
Comments?
Email me.

I like this one.

4) For me, being an atheist is a side effect of simply accepting facts.
I don't want "atheist power"...I want truth, I want people to be
skeptics, I want people to live and let live. I want people to be
empathetic.

Atheism is a side effect of those things. Religion isn't inherently bad,
it just leaves people open to non skeptical ideas, leaves then open to
pretty much anything, including hurting one another. Atheism isn't
inherently good, it can lead people to feel more responsible for the
here and now.

By: Zooropa
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Harry F. Leopold

--
George Ricker
"Godless in America" by George Ricker is now available at
online book sellers, like amazon.com, and most book retailers.
Go to http://www.godlessinamerica.com for more information.
.

User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 07:31:50 AM
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:45:48 GMT *nemo*
<nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> said the following in alt.atheism and
I was immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's
"Messiah" for some reason...
#10.

10) In response to:

What do you mean, you don't believe in God? Everybody has to believe in
something!


Seriously though, I have heard that many times. As well as "You HAVE to
teach your daughter to believe in something!", to which I reply, "I'm
teaching her to believe in herself".

By: Robibnikoff
Nominated: Uncle Vic
Seconded: Michelle Malkin

--
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"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
.

User: "Harry F. Leopold"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 29 Oct 2006 10:03:16 AM
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:45:48 -0500, nemo* wrote
(in article <nemo0037-78F7A8.05454627102006@news.west.earthlink.net>):

4) For me, being an atheist is a side effect of simply accepting facts. I
don't want "atheist power"...I want truth, I want people to be skeptics, I
want people to live and let live. I want people to be empathetic.

Atheism is a side effect of those things. Religion isn't inherently bad, it
just leaves people open to non skeptical ideas, leaves then open to pretty
much anything, including hurting one another. Atheism isn't inherently good,
it can lead people to feel more responsible for the here and now.

By: Zooropa

This one.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"Jesus loves you, but Cthulu thinks you're part of a nutritious
breakfast."-Dr. Smartass
.
User: "kidigus"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 29 Oct 2006 11:30:58 PM
I love this one.

9) In response to:

Somehow one arrow (chemical reaction) hit the target(life). OK.
But why was there only ONE target and not others?

It's not hard to hit a target if you fire the arrow, see where it hits,
and then draw the bullseye around it.

( in response to neo)

(They were all great! Honorable mention to #5 and #8)
.


User: "Liz"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 28 Oct 2006 07:44:02 AM
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:45:48 GMT, *nemo*
<nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> in news message
<nemo0037-78F7A8.05454627102006@news.west.earthlink.net> wrote:
After much consideration of many outstanding quotes this month, I vote
for #3, albeit Michael Gray's observation about "extra-Biblical" makes
me laugh every time I think of it.
Still #3.


3) While watching the news this evening, hearing the Moslems say this
and the Catholics respond with that, with both sides defending the
indefensible idea of an invisible super being who looks out for them, I
was struck by the idea that they all resemble nothing so much as two
tribes of monkeys flinging feces at each other in an attempt to prove
which one is more civilized.

By: L. Raymond
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Christopher A. Lee

Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 30 Oct 2006 02:57:34 PM
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:45:48 GMT, *nemo*
<nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote in alt.atheism
All sorts of good ones, but I got a good chuckle out of this one.

8) In response to:

We should unite and become a religion to enjoy the benefits the US
already provides to all of the other religions....


Benefits? I think the benefits are nothing compared to the drawbacks. If
I have to sit through an atheist Sunday picnic and listen to some
atheist soccer-mom go on and on about how her housekeeper is stealing
soap and her kid isn't getting playing time, I will shoot myself.

By: Geoff
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Jon Stoll

--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.

User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 04:58:33 AM
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:45:48 GMT, *nemo*
<nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:


14) There is an insight which no monotheistic religion in the world has
yet been capable of discovering: the fact that the transition from an
immature to a mature morality comes only when the *need not to
disappoint* is replaced by the *need not to harm*.

By: Mark D J.
Nominated: Christopher A. Lee
Seconded: Harry F. Leopold

This one.
A lot of good ones this month, but this is the best.
.

User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 10:03:35 AM
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:45:48 GMT, *nemo*
<nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:

11) All very good points. Here is one more: If you define the
developing fetus to be a human with rights comparable to those of a
'post-birth' human, then that fetus is committing criminal assault
against the mother. It is depriving the mother of the unrestricted use
of her body and taking from her, against her wishes, blood, food,
oxygen, etc. It is exposing her to increased risk of cardio-vascular,
resiratory, and endocrine problems. If she wishes to provide those
goods and services, that is her perogative. If she does not, the fetus
needs to cease and desist as soon as the mother decides that she no
longer wishes to maintain the relationship. If the fetus is unable to
acquire sustanence from other sources, that is not the pregnant woman's
concern. If a beggar comes up to me on the street and tells me he will
die unless I give him food, I am in no way legally obliged to provide
him with anything. Even if the beggar is a child. If the beggar does
indeed die, I am not guilty of murder. The same is true in a pregnancy.
The fetus deserves no special status.

By: MarkA
Nominated: Lucifer
Seconded: Strife767

This one..
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Given that you exist and that you are aware of your situation and
surroundings, you will find yourself in a place which has conditions
exactly suitable to your being there. If the environment was
hostile or incompatible in some important way then you would not be
there in the first place. Therefore the suitability and seeming
perfection of your universe cannot be taken as evidence of anything
more than your existence in it."
- Edward Warren, "The naturalistic fallacy"
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
.

User: ""

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 28 Oct 2006 01:55:45 AM
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:45:48 GMT, *nemo*
<nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:

Here are the nominations for Atheist Quote of the Month for October
2006. Vote for your favorite by responding to this thread. Votes will be
accepted until midnight, Oct 31, 2006. See rules below. Questions?
Comments?
Email me.

* * * * *
3) While watching the news this evening, hearing the Moslems say this
and the Catholics respond with that, with both sides defending the
indefensible idea of an invisible super being who looks out for them, I
was struck by the idea that they all resemble nothing so much as two
tribes of monkeys flinging feces at each other in an attempt to prove
which one is more civilized.

By: L. Raymond
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Christopher A. Lee

atheist@home#1554
.

User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 03:42:48 PM
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet *nemo* (nemo0037
@earthlink.dieSPAM.net) made the light shine upon us with this:

10) In response to:

What do you mean, you don't believe in God? Everybody has to believe in
something!


Seriously though, I have heard that many times. As well as "You HAVE to
teach your daughter to believe in something!", to which I reply, "I'm
teaching her to believe in herself".

By: Robibnikoff
Nominated: Uncle Vic
Seconded: Michelle Malkin

This one for me.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man
.

User: "Hannele Hannele@lycos-nl"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 03:28:53 PM
Some nice quotes this month, but I think I'll go for #10.

10) In response to:

What do you mean, you don't believe in God? Everybody has to believe in
something!


Seriously though, I have heard that many times. As well as "You HAVE to
teach your daughter to believe in something!", to which I reply, "I'm
teaching her to believe in herself".

By: Robibnikoff
Nominated: Uncle Vic
Seconded: Michelle Malkin

--
Hannele
aa #2221
.

User: "Kilmir"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 07:49:03 AM
This one, nr 14.
*nemo* schreef:

------------

14) There is an insight which no monotheistic religion in the world has
yet been capable of discovering: the fact that the transition from an
immature to a mature morality comes only when the *need not to
disappoint* is replaced by the *need not to harm*.

By: Mark D J.
Nominated: Christopher A. Lee
Seconded: Harry F. Leopold

------------

Kilmir
#1944
.

User: "Frank Mayhar"

Title: Re: aa - The polls are open! AQOTM for Oct 2006 27 Oct 2006 08:10:01 PM
This one:

8) In response to:

We should unite and become a religion to enjoy the benefits the US
already provides to all of the other religions....


Benefits? I think the benefits are nothing compared to the drawbacks. If
I have to sit through an atheist Sunday picnic and listen to some
atheist soccer-mom go on and on about how her housekeeper is stealing
soap and her kid isn't getting playing time, I will shoot myself.

By: Geoff
Nominated: stoney
Seconded: Jon Stoll

--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
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